The "I Just Watched..." Thread

[wotfan4472]

I watched Logan a few days ago, and it was awesome!! Such an amazing movie!!

[Tyzack]

Also just watched Logan; it was also amazing totes recomend!

 

But maybe some nerds here can help me out on this:

 

 

 

 

Where does it fit in the timeline? From my understanding the rough time-line we've been following is:

 

X-Men Origins: Wolverine

X-Men First Class

Apolocolypse

2000s Trilogy

Days of Future Past

 

The Wolverine

Logan

 

...Is that correct?

 

 

 

Edited March 13, 2017 by Tyzack

[BFG]

I haven't seen Logan, but I've been told it breaks with the timeline/alternative reality/timeywineytypething

[Tyzack]

I haven't seen Logan, but I've been told it breaks with the timeline/alternative reality/timeywineytypething

 

Hence my spoiler confusion...the interwebs (light searching that I did) don't have a solid answer either.

[SinisterDeath]

 

I haven't seen Logan, but I've been told it breaks with the timeline/alternative reality/timeywineytypething

 

Hence my spoiler confusion...the interwebs (light searching that I did) don't have a solid answer either.

 

Maybe it's a future after the events of Apocalypse?

[reyler]

It's set in 2029, which is the furthest out chronologically. First Class takes place in 1962 (Cuban missile crisis), Days of Future Past takes place mostly in 1973 (Paris Accords), except for the parts that don't (which are approximately 40 years later), Apocalypse takes place in I think 1983 wherein Havok and Beast are still like 20 years old somehow, Origins is sort of spread out across the background of those three (or it was until they decided to drop it from canon), X1-3 all take place more or less when they were released. So does Wolverine, which if you can keep timelines separate in your head, is only possible because DoFP erased the Sentinel version of the Bad Future. Of course, for anyone who has paid attention to the time travel shenanigans in the comics over the years, pretty much every future is the Bad Future for mutants.

 

Also Deadpool is technically kind of part of X-Men continuity, but probably not the one we've actually been seeing on film so far.

 

Honestly I wouldn't recommend worrying too much about the X-Men film timeline - the producers certainly don't. Pretty sure the only reason it ever gets factored in is because of the ongoing necessity for Magneto to be a Holocaust survivor. I think they work better if you take them as sort of an anthology series as opposed to an MCU-style ongoing story; otherwise Laura's X-Men comics in the film are less Macbeth in their historical revisionism and more Abe Lincoln Vampire Hunter.

[Tyzack]

My question was really in regards to if this was the end of the franchise.

[reyler]

If you meant "does anything come after this chronologically?", unlikely, unless they decide to have a movie following Laura and her pals around - don't hold your breath.

 

If you meant "are there more movies after this?", then yeah, they're prepping two movies now. One is set in the 90s post-Apocalypse and is apparently going to be taking another shot at getting the Dark Phoenix right, while the other is going to be based on the old New Mutants book, set who knows when. Three movies if you count Deadpool 2 as an X-film, and four if this supposed X-Force movie is ever more than a twinkle in Simon Kinberg's eye. Not to mention the tenuously connected Legion series on FX, and this other show they're putting together for network.

[Ryrin]

Kong

[Tyzack]

If you meant "does anything come after this chronologically?", unlikely, unless they decide to have a movie following Laura and her pals around - don't hold your breath.

 

If you meant "are there more movies after this?", then yeah, they're prepping two movies now. One is set in the 90s post-Apocalypse and is apparently going to be taking another shot at getting the Dark Phoenix right, while the other is going to be based on the old New Mutants book, set who knows when. Three movies if you count Deadpool 2 as an X-film, and four if this supposed X-Force movie is ever more than a twinkle in Simon Kinberg's eye. Not to mention the tenuously connected Legion series on FX, and this other show they're putting together for network.

 

Things I didn't know...

 

I have very little intention of ever watch deadpool, or any deadpool based movie primarily based off my disatisfaction in Ryan Reynolds acting range.

 

Also, I have 0 exposure to non-movie X-men cannon, so that paragraph is facinating non-parasable english to me.

[Tyzack]

Kong

 

Is that a recomendation?

[Mrs. Cindy Gill]

I haven't read any comics including X men and new mutants since the very early 90s... and still that's a completely understandable explanation.

 

I think Kong was a response to the thread title but maybe ryrin will feel like writing more

words there.

 

deadpool was a great, fun movie. you don't have to watch it of course. that was a recommendation.

[Tyzack]

I haven't read any comics including X men and new mutants since the very early 90s... and still that's a completely understandable explanation.

 

I think Kong was a response to the thread title but maybe ryrin will feel like writing more

words there.

 

deadpool was a great, fun movie. you don't have to watch it of course. that was a recommendation.

 

I do a lot of things that are contrarian just for the point of being contrarian; I've never watched Titanic and I've never read (or watched) Harry Potter.

[Mrs. Cindy Gill]

tianic is a travesty. I rooted for the iceberg in the few minutes I sat through.

 

and you are a muggle but that's ok.

[Tyzack]

tianic is a travesty. I rooted for the iceberg in the few minutes I sat through.

 

and you are a muggle but that's ok.

 

The most hilarious part of that word is that it has been adopted around the world by my running club to refer to people who aren't in the club.

Edited March 20, 2017 by Tyzack

[Mrs. Cindy Gill]

in this ase it means someone who hasn't read or watched Harry Potter. but you have much time to read and watch many things.

[Tyzack]

in this ase it means someone who hasn't read or watched Harry Potter. but you have much time to read and watch many things.

 

I'm aware enough of the culture around harry potter to be aware of what all the terms mean, and I have a general understanding of the plot - you can refrain from directly watching or reading, but it's almost impossible to live with people who grew up in the aughts to not reference it frequently in regular conversation.

 

Anyway, I'll probably go see Kong this weekend.

[Tyzack]

Ghost In the Shell response?

 

I liked it. I'll post a "full spoiler" review in a bit.

[Nolder]

Netflix, Kung Fury.

Don't read about it just put it on and enjoy.

[Tyzack]

*eyeroll* *eyeroll* *eyeroll*

 

 

So I worked 13+ yesterday and saw that Transformers was playing on my way home, and I said "whatever, I saw the first one ten years ago, how bad can this be?"

 

SPOILER REVIEW of Transformers: Last knight

 

 

 

 

...

 

exactly as bad as I expected... BUT

 

...

 

More so, I think, than any of the other Transformer movies (TBH, they all kinda blend together, the geography of the second one was, um, hilarious and the product placment in the 3rd and 4th was slightly over the line), except the first (which wasn't that bad because it was the first), this one was ... aware... of it's redicolousness.

 

My main review is that somewhere, burred under all the one-liners, type-casting, product placement and "one uppness" was a good idea for a movie. The two things I disliked the most were:

 

1.) Optimuses flip-back to Optimus, and this review blends into the second. Honestly, as I was watching it, I really enjoyed Optimus turning into a bad guy, and Megatrons lack of screen time, combined with the human anti-transformer action, made me think how cool it would be if Megatron was hero, saving humanity from Optimus, only to then turn and kill us (or try to) himself, and then be defeated by the knights and the staff, in a way destroying the threat and ending the series.

 

2.) The end in which no one died! This was in no way, shape or form and end! Even Fellowship or Two Towers had more satisfying endings, yes, there was more story to be told, but at least all the plot points which were opened in the conflict in those films/stories were tied up.

 

3.) And this is my main complaint about the franchise from movie #2 on, each movie, instead of trying to continue the story, essentially retold the same story, but, in order to keep the audience entertained, had to countinuelly "one up" the previous one in pretty much every aspect; cheesiness, one-liners, product placement, secret organizations, mythical tie-ins, everything that the previous movies had, instead of being built out upon in any sensible world-building way, so instead just made "bigger"

 

The fundemental concept of the franchise: allien robots come to earth and protect earth from other alien robots is still are really cool sci-fi world to work in, and I just wish that a movie would be made with the goal "lets make a good scifi movie, that will also make money and push products" instead of "lets make a movie that makes money and pushes product in a really cool sci-fi world."

 

 

 

 

 

TL:DR -> It was close to, if not slightly better than, my expectations, but my expectations were "i need to turn off my mind for 3 hours after a long day at work, this should do the trick." The worst parts of the movie, and the parts that upset me the most, were when my brain tried to actively process what it was seeing.

Edited June 28, 2017 by Tyzack

[BFG]

OMG a new Transformers??

 

This means a new Kermode rant <3

[Tyzack]

OMG a new Transformers??

 

This means a new Kermode rant <3

 

What's a Kermode rant?

 

Actually, this is the tag line for the New Yorker review:

 

The absolute tastelessness of Bay’s images, their stultifying service to platitudes and to merchandise, doesn’t at all diminish their wildly imaginative power.

 

 

Which is what I was struggling to say in my review

 

Full review:

 

http://www.newyorker.com/culture/richard-brody/review-transformers-the-last-knight-michael-bay-experimental-filmmaker

Edited June 28, 2017 by Tyzack

[BFG]

 

Kermode is a film critic who doesn't like dan brown films, transformers, sex in the city etc etc etc that I Google if I ever need a dose of light relief

 

This review is ok, I think you'll appreciate his sex and the city 2 review :)

 

His best Michael Bay quote imo "if Michael Bay wasn't one of the most successful film directors in the world he'd be directing porn"

[Krakalakachkn]

Netflix, Kung Fury.

Don't read about it just put it on and enjoy.

 

yup

[LedZepMan]

Just watched The Dark Tower.

 

Don't waste your money. They pretty much skipped the storyline. All of it.