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  1. The third Oath clearly states, word for word: Never to use the One Power as a weapon except against Darkfriends or Shadowspawn, or in the last extreme defence of her life, the life of her Warder, or another sister. As far as I can tell, all Oaths in the show are the same ones. What we saw Moriaine do in Falme in the show is consistent with her knowledge of two Forsaken being in the city.
  2. The Oath in the books named both shadowspawn and darkfriends as exempt from being protected from direct attacks by Aes Sedai. It also states that an Aes Sedai can channel to defend herself and her Warder. and can channel to defend another Aes Sedai and her Warder if attacked by others, like the Whitecloaks. These are the only exceptions. Going by how Moiraine behaved in the show so far, this Oath is unchanged.
  3. No. The Oath deals with Shadow sided elements. It lists the Shadowspawn and darkfriends. At the end of the day, the Forsaken were Aes Sedai that defected to the Dark One, and became his leaders that speak directly for him, and take their orders directly from him, too. They were called Forsaken, because they were trusted Aes Sedai that turned against the world, and are darkfriends that lead on the Dark One's behalf, that all made the conscious choice to turn. Figures that darkfriends 3000 years later idolise as mythological heroes. One was a world famous theologian and philosopher. Ishamael. One was a technological research scientist. Lanfear. One was a world famous clinical psychologist. Graendal. One was a world famous doctor. Semirhage. One was a world famous athlete. Sammael. One was a historian. Balthamel. One was a musical celebrity. Asmodean. One was a teacher. Mesaana. One was a lawyer. Be'lal. One was a banker. Moghedien. One was a biological research scientist. Aginor. One was a politician. Rahvin. One was a world famous diplomat. Demandred. All of them Aes Sedai from the Age Of Legends. All of them turned, because they wanted more than the world could give them. The Shadowspawn are not naturally evolved life forms. They were all built, except for the Fades. They are born of Trollocs. They were made by Aginor after his turn, using human beings and animals in genetic experiments. These are not good people. They are the sort of people even Joker would hate.
  4. The Forsaken are the Shadow's leaders. The shadowspawn follow their commands, and the darkfriends follow them too. Moiraine knows that the Forsaken are in the list by default, since they command the two groups the Oath mentions. They are the example the darkfriends all aspire to be. You saw Ishamael's talk to the little girl, and how he used the interaction with the Trolloc to influence her. The implication is that being a darkfriend has no age limit. A little girl would do just fine as one, and expected to follow their oath of allegiance to the utmost as well.
  5. I took it to mean that Rhuarc knows how to read body language really well. Not one of the Emond's Field Five could fake body language until much later in their lives. He was good enough to catch Lan and Moiraine on their inner thoughts too. It comes from being a chief, with a blood feud with the most deceitful clans in the Shaido. Which was also a clan that lived close by them.
  6. The reason they are both exempt, is because they are both consistently spun out into the world. In fact, Birgitte states that this was the longest she and Gaidal had spent in The World Of Dreams between lives together. As for all the other Heroes? Mat remembers dying with Artur Hawkwing looking down on him, from the memories the Finns gave him. Mat knew it was Artur, because he saw him in Falme after he blew the Horn. In the exact same body form each time.
  7. Anaiya was not killed by Halima for no reason. She was killed, because she figured out from the other crimes, that Halima could channel saidin. The other two were killed for the same and another reason that was not realised.... Anaiya and the other two Aes Sedai Halima killed witnessed her attempt to kill Mat when he first arrived at Salidar, but Anaiya only realised what she saw when Egwene told her of the saidin killings. She realised Halima was Forsaken.
  8. The Forsaken by default are leaders of the Shadow. Moiraine and the Aes Sedai are well aware of that fact. Whether they are back or not is the major thrust of Aes Sedai politics, which Elaida will show, since she represents the majority view of the Aes Sedai that the Forsaken will never get out again. Because the key to that denial, is that they do not have the strength and knowledge to fight them. To show the counterpoint to that, is that of the Aes Sedai on the side of the Light, only Moiraine, Siuan and Alanna know that one Forsaken for sure is out, and only Moiraine is aware two of them are. The bigger issue, is that no Aes Sedai except the Black Ajah know that ALL OF THEM are now free.
  9. Far Madding is a display of a corrupted version of modern feminism because of the history of that city's people going back to the Age Of Legends, where they mistrusted the One Power and men's use of it even then to almost Whitecloak levels. As for Samoan and Tongan culture, it is an example of ancient feminism going back thousands of years. The only culture that has anywhere near the same in the Northern hemisphere is the Minoans.
  10. Going by what we have seen, the show has the same Oaths as the books. Moiraine acting in sinking the ship is doable, because she knows she is fighting the Shadow. She knows both Ishamael and Lanfear are in Falme, so she can go all out to do whatever she needs to do, because their presence negates the sense of danger needed at other times. Since the Oath against force states the exceptions very clearly, then the show has it as well. We just have not seen it yet. We know that show Moiraine knows far more about the Forsaken than book Moiraine did at this point. Book Moiraine would have done the same as in the show.
  11. They were not affected by the Longing at all because they did not need the stedding. RJ was very clear that the Breaking meant all stedding worldwide are in Randland, and no other part of the world. The panic a stedding caused the damane is proof of that comment. He stated it, because the books would not be going into that.
  12. There are some cultures that allow that. Samoan culture and Tongan culture are two of them. Both are reflected in Far Madding and the Wise Ones in their personalities and how they react to each other.
  13. It is a total block on Saidin as the books present it. Far Madding is the one place where modern feminism as we know it is a thing. Which is a justified stance considering saidin for most of the city's existence is a source of madness whenever it is accessed. It is not an anti One Power city. That would be Amador in Amadicia. It is an anti Saidin city, that also just so happens to mistrust Saidar as well. Which is why women can move around the city with monitoring, but men are totally restricted. If it was that way, Nyneave would not be able to tap her well to fool the Council into thinking it was Damer doing the channeling. It might fail with a Saidin well, we just do not have any indication on that, because no male channeler survived the Age Of Legends to pass on their knowledge, until Asmodean did with Rand, 3000 years later. All we know, is that Cadsuaine knew of the flaw in the Guardians, and exploited it to save the Dragon Reborn from captivity under Elaida.
  14. The loophole applies to saidar, remember? Far Madding's Guardian completely blocked saidin in any fashion. Wells of saidin would not work like the saidar ones did. The True Power, however was unrestricted, because only a few people knew of it, and all of them were either using it, or had access to it in the Age Of Legends, and they all served the Dark One. Callandor is the exception to that, but only because it was unexplained how it could interact with the True Power that way, or how anyone could make it to do what it did without the Pattern. The only things a stedding could not block was anything done that the weaves started, like a storm, or an earthquake.
  15. That is correct about Callandor. I just remember the access key glowing, and his comment on the Guardian only blocking the One Power.
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