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Mik

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  1. Ok. If you say so. I'm sure you're right about Moghedien too. Have a good day
  2. You need a re-read. Just the Sea Folk docked at Tear outnumbered the people in Tear. All the southern ports of Randland were packed with Sea Folk vessels. Those cities were filled with Sea Folk. No army? It was RIGHT there....on the side of the continent where noone expected an attack. Demandred -as their Master of the Blades- could have (ab)used the Sea Folk prophecy much like Asmodean did with the Shaido to have a people that was described by RJ as 'strictly hierarchal and obidient' to attack (the Stone of) Tear, the Altarans and the Seanchan held ports for killing their former Mistress of the Ships and her Master of the Blades (and disrespecting their corpses by impaling their heads on pikes) alone. The Sea Folk IS an army; we learn of a Sea Folk ship that went toe to toe with a Seanchan ship when it attacked and the Sea Folk WON. They have hundreds and hundreds of capable Channelers (I think RJ once said 'about a thousand'..IIRC). Note the Weaving of the Winds that we see a Windfinder weave in TSR.....now immagine a thunderstorm with those thick cables, made by linked Windfinders in their hundreds. Now immagine Demandred with the Bowl of Winds the Sea Folk Bargained for....and a Circle. Even IF the Sea Folk were a distraction abused for a limited ammount of time by Demandred (say...a few days...untill they come to their senses), they could have packed a mighty punch. But whatever. Again proves you need a re-read; the Sea Folk were a sea-bound people; their islands were not inhabited by them. They protected the Amayar living there. And you see the responce of the First Twelve when they were given news of their mass suicide; utter shock and horror. Something easily abused by Demandred, who couldn't care less about those Sea Folk islands; he had his army with him in all the ports.
  3. I wouldn't change it one bit. Neither would I change my theory about Demandred hiding as Amel (see quote from first post:) I think what this theory and the one about Demandred being Amel prove, is that it makes mince meat out of RJ envisioning Demandred as Bao with the Sharans. BS made that all up and in doing so, BS nullified RJ's whole Sea Folk story (the Bargains, the Bowl, Zaida's odd behaviour, the positioning of all the Sea Folk ships in ports, their stance towards the 'shorebound'). RJ would have made the middle books *BETTER* in hindsight by how he hid all of this right under our noses for all these years. RJ would have made a great story of having Demandred lure Rand into a trap by using the Bargain to summon the Coramoor to the Mistress of the Ships at the worst possible time for the Light (like right before the meeting @ Field of Merrilor) Brandon's Demandred (placement, history & behaviour) was a JOKE. It was BS. To me, this is just one of many, many signs of how little RJ actually left behind to finish AMoL....and of how much BS fucked up WoT. Finishing WoT was never truly about how -and if- RJ wanted it to finish...it was about TOR making a few axtra bucks & getting a new writer popular.
  4. It's around 10 in the morning here in the Netherlands, on a beautiful, quiet, sunny 17th of Oktober. I'm sitting behind my desk just staring outside, remembering a man that has been (and still is) a very big part of my life. Ever since that glorious 10 day hike in the Austrian mountains back in '96, when my SO bought me "The Eye of the World" to have something to read in the evenings. I'm surrounded by colleagues who have no clue who Robert Jordan -let alone Jim Rigney- is. But I just raised my first cup of coffee in silent salute to Jim, who would have turned 68 today.
  5. The Bloodless? (I think Empty One is nice, but that it's a more fitting name for the Dark One or the Zomaran)
  6. Androl & Bao; They were unnecessary, downright interfering, with the story that RJ would have written. I hate them, because to me they represent all that is wrong with what BS added to the Wheel of Time.
  7. He had bought it because he collected ancient / AoL items. It was one of his more recent trophies IIRC.
  8. 'It was something the Pattern did' True -offcourse-, but an unsatisfying answer that doesn't answer how it worked at all. It's an answer to every question concerning the Wheel of Time in the same sense that any question about our Solar System, Galaxy or Cluster can be answered with 'it was something the Universe did'. Somehow, an answer like this feel 'more' right to events that impact a lot or work on a huge scale, but it tells us nothing. The answer of "How exactly did the Pattern do this something" remains unanswered (or is avoided when the one asking the question starts nodding his head thoughtfully) How do the Heroes apparantly not being hurt disproves a blending of Tar (surrounding all the worlds) and Rand's real world at that time??? If anything, the fact that the Heroes tied to TAR could all gather in one place and meet with the Dragon Reborn who is in the real world, just like the enemies of the Dragon they fight, begs of a blend of the unseen world and the normal one. We also saw that the battle the Seanchan and the Heroes fought was somehow linked to the battle between the Dragon Reborn and the Heart of the Dark. Rand's determination, his doubts and fears -his Strenght of Mind- and that of his opponent had a relationship with how well the other battle went. There seemed to be a clear blending of Rand's Thoughts/ Steadfastness and the battle in the Real World. And it all started when the Horn was sounded... that clear, sweet note. I'd say that's a guess easily disproved; Being Ta'veren isn't a condition you inherit or are born with. At one point, you can become one based on the Weave of the Wheel, based on the needs of the Pattern. We know Rand became Ta'veren very early in the story (as in..somewhere right at the start of the Eye of the World) We know he has never done anything like what he did with his pipe all throughout the books in the waking/ real world. The only time we see 'Thought' become 'Matter' (of a sorts) is in TAR. We have chapter names relating to TAR and explanations on how willpower and strenght of mind shape the reality of the Unseen World. It's not a huge leap to say that Rand became Ta'veren because of his importance to the Pattern due to him being the Dragon Reborn. What was the Dragon Reborns purpose/ destiny in the Pattern? To seal the Dark One away as the Creator had once envissioned the Pattern. Rand had already fulffilled his destiny; the Web of Destiny no longer had a need for him. It stands to reason that Rand no longer was Ta'veren at the moment he lit his pipe. And regardless, his Ta'veren-ness throughout all the books never gave him this kind of power. By all appearances, Rand's Thought simply became Matter in the Real World. When did we last see something like this? I think at the end of the Great Hunt... where the Grave was no Bar to the Horn's call. Was the Horn sounded? Yes... recently. Since Rand managed to do it in the Real World, it looks like a lingering connection between TAR and the waking world that had become "intuitively obvious" (giggle) to Rand.
  9. I've always believed that to be true. I once wrote something very similar about the Horn, it's function and where and how it would be used in the Last Battle: original topic with some nice follow-up posts IIRC: http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/60798-day-that-dawns-twice/?do=findComment&comment=1864846 I think you're right about how he lit his pipe; it's "A Matter of Thought"...at that place at that moment. And about Brandon his opinion; I couldn't give a rats ass to be honest. What Sanderson did with WoT's storyline -while it had so much potential- is nothing short of a crime. Edited to add: Here's another nice explanation that takes some more factors into consideration: http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/74879-who-will-have-the-actual-memory-of-the-light-what-will-it-be-what-will-it-do/?do=findComment&comment=2571360 And some nice quotes about the Horn and it's use in TGH: "It was a clear note, golden as the Horn was golden. The trees around them seemed to resonate with it, and the ground under their feet, the sky overhead. That one long sound encompassed everything." "Time?" Birgitte said, smiling. "We have all of time." RJ hid it in plain sight: The sounding of the Horn 'ecompasses everything'; all the worlds, T'a'r and 'all of Time'. BS is a blind beggar. ;)
  10. You gave your own answer. I think most of the WoT-loving people were more then a little ... urm...'lost' in the last two books, so I guess that doesn't matter much. I'm guessing it will all make sense to you anyway.
  11. This. Goosebumps! I have the same with "To Come Out of the Shadow". That whole chapter is packed with small, very emotional scenes and sentences. Especially at the end, that chapter has all those gems. Ingtar's confession, Rand's tender absolvement (of you will), Ingtar finally content and his brave Last Stand right into the next chapter. What I find so amazing is how I can still SEE him fight, proud, laughing, content IN the Light.... while all we have to go by are Ingtar's triumphant shouts. Far behind him, Rand heard Ingtar’s voice rise. “The Light, and Shinowa!” The clash of steel joined the roar of other voices. .../ /... “The Light, and Shinowa!” Ingtar’s shout soared after him, sounding triumphant, and lightning crashed across the sky in answer. I thought that was poetry. Goosebumps. every. time. (even just thinking about it) So emotional and so well written, with just a few sentences.
  12. Are you still around Fish? Suttree? Anyone know how to get in contact with them aside from this forum?
  13. It usually depends on my mood... When I'm feeling sad/ melancholic (I get that quite a lot to be honest after reading AMoL and thinking about WoT); Noone should have finished the Wheel. WoT is RJ's world. I miss the man... so, so, so much, it makes my chest hurt at times. When he left us, I lost the favourite uncle I never had and never met. It's one of my greatest regrets; never having shook his hand or send him a letter... just to express how much he meant to me. I miss him. If noone would have finished the story, I know I would ache untill my dying breath,...but at least my memory of WoT/ RJ wouldn't have been tainted by the rotten ending we were fed by BS. When I'm my usualy -more/all logical- self; I think to get the best possible story (that would fit into the RJ's WoT 100%) the best solution would have been to have a collective of hardcore theorists deal with all the plotlines and finish the story-line/ time-line. A ghostwriter could have written that story with Harriet -and the real fans who made the storyline- as his/her editors. I would have paid money to help out. Heck, I would have chipped in serious money to have guys/ girls like Dom(a), LightintheNight, Linda, Luckers, Mr Ares (just for knee-capping, mind you), Fish(er King), Suttree, Sidious & Baphomet23 make a frame-work of the story. For RJ's legacy. For the story. When I'm feeling good/ I can take on the world: I have seriously considered taking a 6 month sabbatical from work to write my own ending of a combined ToM/ AMoL. Sometimes, I still toy with the idea. Who knows.
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