Ideas upon a (Blank)

[nwash_10]

This kind of goes along with the whole "legion of dreadlords" idea but how about all those male Aiel channelers that travel to the Blight after they find out they can channel. Maybe they have all been 13x13 and that's your army of darkside channelers.

[Grimmlocke]

Maybe a second Bore under construction? It would allow an epic fake-out by the DO. "Oh no, you've defeated me! Curse you, DRAGOOOO-Oh, wait, you thought I was being serious? You idiot. *Backhands*"

[Demiandre]

After the Blight are the Blasted Lands. Where lay Moridin Fortress. With black claded guards. The danger of the blasted land, where Moridin look at lands with crops. Those gards must be chaneler, or very tough guys. Like Lan or better. What lays beyond the Blasted Land must be polar circle, where very few light is available. With quite long nights. A set of Towers where chanellers are trained. Or with knowledge of the Age of Legends. And the renegade are Dreadlords. Or they are all Dreadlords. So towers always in the night. Towers of Midnight? To balance the nowadays Towers of Midnight in Seanchan? A plague of Dreadlords with Trolloc armies?

 

A side note on the natural reactor. Their discoverer is Francis Perrin, a french scientist (thanks to MrsWiki! ;) ). Maybe just a coincidence...

 

I like the Great Snake theory. A thinning of the Pattern allowing him to interact with the world. The Voice of the Pattern.

 

Or else, totally crazy, a gigantic machine that is revealed to be the Pattern, in total antagony to the belief of a mystic Wheel.

[FarShainMael]

@Demi.. :)

 

@OTT: all those books would get horribly mouldy, unless they were SRSLY warded! ;)

[Owayn The Traveller]

All that's left is the CDs and DVDs.

 

I got it it's Stephen King's Dark Tower

[FallingBullets]

Something about the Song?

[b3arz3rg3r]

How about an amusement park where all the Trolloc parents take their children?

[TankSpill]

I think it would have to be a really big deal, and probably something unique to get the kind of reaction we've heard. That makes me think that stasis boxes, trolloc breeding grounds, etcetera wouldn't be quite surprising enough to make that kind of reaction. Dragon seems a little too cliche at this point, but I think it would be something of that uniqueness and magnitude, something that has never been heard of before in all of Randland.

[Terrel88]

Maybe lush farmland with avendasoras/choras everywhere, providing a vegetarian meal for those wussy trollocs Would be very LOTR-esque.

[Impressive Bosom]

My immediate thought was 'a dragon', but almost as quickly that thought was dismissed as we've been told flat out we would see no such thing in the series. Then, like everyone else, my thought went to 'a city' and this is the idea that took root - and here's why: it dovetails oh-so-nicely with Taimandred (oops, why do I keep doing that???), DEmandred's comment that 'his rule is secure'. Everyone's been wondering where that rulership might be, with most defaulting to Shara for lack of options... but a city in the Blight?

 

Yeah, that's what I think it is, and that's where I think Demi is.

[demondeacon]

Based on OP, I'd really not expect it to be something as simple as Moridin's fortress. I don't understand how that would be a memorable or special night of explanation.

 

However, I also don't really understand the fascination with the idea that Moridin may have a fortress. Whether he does or not is pretty irrelevant, the DO/his forces are going to bring the fight to Rand and his allies, they're not going to hunker in some crazy fortress for a siege... I don't think anyway...

[Rufae]

Something requiring a couple hours to describe can only be a city or a structured nation of trollocs. Trollocs are part human and the human nature is to form governemnts. The trollocs had thousands of years without Forsaken/DO leadership. So it would be natural that they would form their own cities/nations.

 

And of course, there would have to be somewhere for Narg to learn to speak. That would be a nice thing to come full circle. We coudl find out that Narg was a king in Trollocland.... Viva King Narg!

[Lambada]

The two hours wasn't just describing the thing, but how it will impact upon the rest of the series. So it could be something small with huge consequences.

[DemandredFO]

My thoughts are; something to explain Luc/Isam merging, a Nym or something hiding a city.

[shinerfan]

Dragon ... perfectly obvious to me. <img src='http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/cool.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='B)' />

 

 

 

anyone recall when two of the Chosen were flappin' their gums and they mumbled something to the effect of " these third age goobs have no flippin' idea what the worms turn into when they grow up" ..... or along those lines.

 

 

 

A while back I was really big on this being the BUT, but someone pointed out that RJ had directly stated there would be no dragons. Still, the comment about how the jumari? would never transform now has been bugging me for years and I still think its a hint of something to come and not just a forgotten aside.

[Sharaman]

A spaceship driven by TP or a city-sized stasis box?

[JakeBarnes]

I'm also in the 'City/State' camp.

 

Think of the possibilities. Maybe this place has survived through the Breaking of the World, due to its close proximity to Shayol Ghul, maybe it grew from the male Aiel who come to die. What if it is inhabited by Trollocs? What kind of culture have they built for themselves? Is the population a mix between human channelers and Trollocs? Is this where Trollocs are made? What would happen if Rand encountered this place during his trip to Shayol Ghul? Is this why Demandred was dressed for Winter in Lord of Chaos?

 

The possibilities are nearly endless.

[Tenesmus]

I am all for a City in the Blight. Doesn't Lan mention something about Trolloc tribes in the early books and something about how he didn't expect certain tribes to be with others. Well, a City in the Blight would explain all that. Also, what ever happens to all the male Aiel channelers that go off to the Blight? Maybe they set up a little town...

[Jong]

A city was my first thought.

[Owayn The Traveller]

It's a big massive cold storage container with future pork in.

 

Okay I hope it's nor a trolloc city as that would be slightly lame. Also can trollocs build, organise and govern themselves? From what we've seen of them not likely.

They could be gathered in big groups alrite but not in a city There are too barbaric for it. I see them in something like the Germanic tribes that fought with Rome. Organised yes, some structures but defiantly not on par with any roman cities.

I prob completely wrong.

Also how would a trolloc city really impact on the rest of the story? It might be interesting but ultimately not integral to the plot.

[Barid Bel Medar]

It's a big massive cold storage container with future pork in.

 

Okay I hope it's nor a trolloc city as that would be slightly lame. Also can trollocs build, organise and govern themselves? From what we've seen of them not likely.

They could be gathered in big groups alrite but not in a city There are too barbaric for it. I see them in something like the Germanic tribes that fought with Rome. Organised yes, some structures but defiantly not on par with any roman cities.

I prob completely wrong.

Also how would a trolloc city really impact on the rest of the story? It might be interesting but ultimately not integral to the plot.

 

Exactly my thoughts! I have no idea why people are all; its a trolloc city, a city!

 

That would be, as you said, exteremely lame for the purposes of the (blank).

 

I wouldnt mind it if it was a city just randomly, but loook at the interview, seriously... He goes on for "hours" about the (blanks) impact on the story. It is one of the most interesting discussions he has ever had with RJ. RJ hid it from everyone up until this point. Its going to be something important.

 

A city of trollocs? Seriously, who cares.

 

Ive thought some more on this, and I think it could be one of the following.

 

1. Some kind of "Great Serpent". Not exactly the wheel itself, but something connected to the wheel.

AS have it on their rings. IShamael says he is going to slay the great serpent. But we never actually get any info on the Great Serpent itself. Its jsut...there.

...in the Blight?

 

2. Gateway to another world. Possibly a portal stone, but I am thinking something different. We know that the Blight cant be reached in TAR because something is up with it.

 

Here is something that leads me to beleive that theres some kinda gateway or portal (for lack of a better word). Of course Portal Stones are included, but Im finding it hard to believe that theres random channelers working all the time to travel from Portal Stone to different worlds.

 

 

The Gathering Storm Book Tour, Sandy, UT 5 December 2009 - kavorca reporting

 

Trollocs. Question was how many Trollocs did the Dark One have access to. He stated definitively that there are lots and lots of Trollocs. The Dark One has access to either "orders of magnitudes more" or "an order of magnitude" more Trollocs that can be supported in the Blight

 

Note, it is more than the Blight can support, so that still rules out a city. Even if they had a city, the blight still cant sustain the numbers they have. Which of course makes it possible that they are getting them form some other world. A vacuole/stasis box, whatever else there is.

 

A Crown of Swords book tour 9 October 1996, Dunwoody, GA - Erica Sadun reporting

 

 

Blight: you can not enter it from Tel'aran'rhiod because it is apart from NORMAL UNIVERSE and can not be touched. The Blight is not part of the normal universe.

 

This is also interesting, seems to suggest theres something fishy going on.

 

Anyway, thats all I can think of, I have a feeling that its neither of these, but something that we dont have enough information to guess at this point.

[Lambada]

Another angle that could be worth exploring.

 

It has a major impact upon how the story unfolds, and yet, Harriet, his editor and wife, did not know about it.

 

Harriet would, at the very least, have known of anything that was major. Such as, Demandreds location (as someone else in this thread suggested). So logically it must be something that is not important as of KoD (the latest book at the time), and not mentioned often enough to warrant Harriet et al. asking him about it.

 

And as a final thought, everyone already has their own theories on how the Last Battle is going to go down, and yet from the sounds of it, this one thing will throw all of these up into the air. Thus, I propose that anything that can be worked into an existing theory easily (such as a Trolloc City providing hordes of Trollocs at the Last Battle) should be considered highly unlikely.

 

Instead, we should be looking for something gamechanging. Something that renders every theory out there null and void. Something that almost everyone will look at and initally go 'That's Dida worthy for stupidness'. And Yet, Something that when you hear the evidence, and the implications of the theory, ultimately doesn't make you go "OMG that will be awesome" but instead go "......." and sit there staring at the screen, stunned speechless.

[GB]

an aiel male channeler ?

[Owayn The Traveller]

It's a book shelf with all the wheel of time books on it. Including the two new ones. And that's what Verin meant when she said 'it ain't being fought blah blah blah'. The forsaken pop out their WoT books at every tea party and discuss it.

[trench]

I think the Blank is a Stedding.

 

This would be a place where Rands forces could gather or regroup to assault SG. Also I wonder if someone could could use the TP in a stedding. What would happen to Fain in a stedding?

 

Or its a Red Box where all the trollocs go and rent movies for movie night in Thakan'dar