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  1. Pretty good ideas, but given what we know now, Elaida and Elyas won't be in Season 1. The other three will likely be an amalgam of many minor characters. I think that Logain will have attributes of Book Taim, Logain, and Asmodean. Also, I always find it odd that folks find it easy to label White Cloaks as "right-wing," but find it difficult to label the Red Ajah as "left-wing."
  2. Tenesmus

    Lan Revealed

    While reading (and re-reading) I've always pictured Lan as an Asian Keanu Reeves, so this clip is basically my head cannon coming to life. Amazing. Well done. I want more.
  3. With Aram, and a few others, it seemed RJ may have wanted to do something with the character early on, but then just left them out there to wither on the vine. Aram was a burden to Perrin, and Perrin could have had him keep a distance. But, Perrin chose to keep him close, and I think that went to Aram's head. I never figured that out. Aram wasn't an advisor, he didn't possess a unique skill set, or proprietary knowledge of some sort. He wasn't even a friend. Why he didn't just put him in the Two Rivers formation under someone else, is a head scratcher. One aspect of Faile's rescue that didn't "click" during my first two reads was Faile and her group stabbing the other two people who were trying to rescue them to death because Perrin showed up. I mean, that's effed up. And they did it with no hesitation. I mean, I get it, but damn.
  4. This was my third read of this book. I read it at publication in 2005, I read it again in 2009, and I just finished it a third time this morning. I have a few thoughts. First. This book made me cry at least twice. First, for sure, was Nynaeve and her scene with the gem dealer. It was such a clever choice to write the scene from the gem dealer's perspective, because Jordan is able to sync up the reader's emotions with the gem dealers gradual growing emotional response to Nynaeve. It is so well done, that by the end of the scene the reader is right there with the gem dealer, fully ready to charge off into the Blight. It is such a momentously rousing scene, and tears just fall unnoticed. Second batch of tears came with the Amayar and their mass suicide. God Damn it, Seriously, RJ? Again, Jordan is able to sync up the reader's response with Harine's response to hearing the tragic news. Going into this read, I expected and remembered the emotional response to Nynaeve's scene, but the Amayar revelation caught me off guard, and my sudden grief and tears surprised. I didn't see it coming. Maybe I'm older, I don't know, but I felt the weight of their loss, even though none of the Amayar people ever had any real page time. I guess that is credit to Robert Jordan's ability as writer. Big Story-wise, I loved this book. It is definitely top tier of the series. Mat's guerilla war, Perrin's assault on Malden, Elayne's victory, Rand's encounter with Semirhage, Loial's marriage, all well done. Also very clever of Jordan to put Egwene as a POV in the Prologue, and then not have her pop up again until page 500. We also get a little more at the Black Tower. And a Tuon POV. Again, well done on Jordan's part to know exactly when a Tuon POV is needed to understand how she sees Mat. I enjoyed the glimpses of Aludra and Egeanin, that were made possible by the character development efforts in previous books. Crossroads of Twilight and Knife of Dreams are so seamless, and flow so naturally, and when paired together raise my overall feelings about Crossroads of Twilight. Books 7, 8,and 9, aren't "bad" they just feel different. They feel like Jordan lost a little bit of control as a Director, not as a writer. But he was able to re-establish himself as both Director and Writer in Crossroads of Twilight, and step everything up in Knife of Dreams. Sadly, Robert Jordan died after completing Knife of Dreams. At the time, I remember reading that he passed, and was deeply saddened. This story, these characters WERE a part of what made me me. This story, and these characters, I know for a fact, influenced how I went through life, how I approached people, how I saw the world. From Lan's stoicism, to Mat's smugness, to Perrin's methodical, simple style, to Rand's fatalism, to Nynaeve's go-it-alone, get-it-done, unwavering nature, to Egwene's annoying, know-it-all selfish unselfishness; all of them, and more, helped me get through life. I knew there was already an ending to their story, that it had already happened, so to speak, but I was crestfallen to realize that I would never know it. Then Brandon Sanderson entered the picture. Now we start Book 12. This will be only the second time I have read the final three books of The Wheel of Time. I have read them each once, at publication, and so now, let's get on with The Gathering Storm, it is not THE beginning, but it is A beginning, of a sort.
  5. Elder_Haman, Thanks for the feedback. I remember the first time I read tPoD, it was the first, and only, book in the series that I was actually MAD when I finished reading. I remember slamming the book down and saying out loud, "THEY OPENED A GATEWAY. THAT'S IT!! THAT'S ALL THEY DID THIS WHOLE !##$%#$%$%ING BOOK!!! IS OPEN A M!#$!#$R F!#$%!%ING GATEWAY!!!!!!!" Rand's PTSD and unhinged aggression really didn't bother me. No Mat in the book irritated me, but Egwene... that whole book and all they did was open a gateway... Don't get me started...
  6. I like to travel and solve problems. Simple as that. I'm not going to overthink it. Gray.
  7. "We rode on the winds of the rising storm, We ran to the sounds of the thunder. We danced among the lightning bolts, and tore the world asunder." So ends Book 10 of the Wheel of Time. I have some thoughts. This was my third read of this book. I read it first at release, again in 2009, and just finished again today. First, I'll address what I liked. I enjoyed the structure of this book. That may be controversial, because many others find this book frustrating, but humor me. It went; Mat then Mat adjacent, Perrin then Perrin adjacent, Elayne then Elayne adjacent, Egwene then Egwene adjacent, then Rand. Then, a Perrin conclusion, a Mat conclusion, and a Egwene conclusion. All the while all of the timelines that had grown out of sync over the last three books were all brought to the same point. We got a glimpse of mostly everyone, to include Loial, Logain, and Gawyn. I also feel like I know all of these characters much better after this book. No one has Jordan's ability to put the reader in the head of a character. Little things, take Mat for example. In a previous book, he thwarts multiple attempts at people trying to kidnap him, but he considers them all unrelated petty crimes even though it is obvious to the reader they are trying to kidnap him. In this book he is blind to who is influencing young Olver. Its obvious to the reader that it is Mat himself influencing Olver, but Mat just doesn't see it. Little things like these add to the depth of character development and how the world is viewed through a plethora of unreliable narrators. Also, as may be obvious, I am not a trained literary critic, but there was something about the prose in this book that I thought was a step up from previous books. The flow, cadence, or turn of a phrase, or whatever, really felt comfortable and enjoyable to my untrained mind. Better than previous books. Now for what I didn't enjoy. The chapters seemed overly long. Almost 700 pages, with an 80 page Prologue, and only 30 chapters gets the average chapter length over 20 pages, with some of them near 30 pages. Some chapters felt like Jordan spent the first 5-8 pages of the chapter describing EVERY SINGLE PERSON the POV sees before getting to something actually happening in the chapter. This was most noticeable in the Elayne and Egwene threads. So while I enjoyed the structure, each thread could have been edited down a bit. Also, significant page time was given to developing people I don't really care about. Granted, we need to see something from Hanlon's and Elenia's POV, but it seemed excessive to have 30 pages dedicated to them. I feel like there was a missed opportunity to better develop the Forsaken, and the split in the Black Tower. I would have enjoyed a couple dozen pages getting behind the scenes at the Black Tower, or seeing Forsaken pulling strings. Also, having 19 families decide the Andoran succession seemed excessive; because now Jordan has to WRITE ABOUT 19 FAMILIES. Why not 13, 11 or, god forbid, 9? It wouldn't change the plot an iota. Many fans consider the next book, Knife of Dreams, to be a favorite, but I believe that Knife of Dreams would not be as good as it is if it wasn't for Crossroads of Twilight. I liked this book. A lot. The Path of Daggers still is my least favorite of the series. While The Path of Daggers was bleak and frustrating, Crossroads of Twilight was refreshing and only mildly frustrating. Onto Knife of Dreams. It will also be my third read of that book. (publication, 2009, now)
  8. We've gotten reliable news that Keira Chansa will be portraying a young Siuan, so that would mean Maria Kennedy could not be playing the older version of Siuan. Pretty sure that leaves her as Verin, or maybe Elaida, but Verin is more important in Book 1&2 than Elaida. Also do we know if its been confirmed that little Robyn Betteridge is playing young Moiraine?
  9. Tenesmus' review of AMOL. I need to comment on the series as a whole before wrapping up with AMOL specific comments. I began reading WOT at the end of 1990. I read EOTW and TGH back to back and thought they were pretty darn good. It wasn't until I read TDR that I realized I was hooked. Then I waited patiently for each volume. I loved them all, but then I remember after ACOS, I thought, "Still pretty good, but I hope the next one is better". Rand and Sammy's battle just seemed like it was phoned in. I got TPOD and remember being quite pissed at the end. I think what really set me off was Egwene's ending in that book. All the war build up and it ends with them opening a gateway. I literally stood up, yelled, "WHAT THE F@#$!!!" and slammed the book onto the table next to me. I thoroughly enjoyed WH and felt re-energized as a fan. COT came out, and instead of being angry like TPOD, I felt used by what I thought at the time was a self indulgent author. Though, to be fair, on a re-read it grew on me. KOD came out and, again, I felt energized as a fan. When I heard RJ passed, I was surprised at how sad it made me feel. I was unprepared for the melancholy I experienced at the thought of never seeing these characters in my mind again. Not ever getting a new book was a secondary sadness. I felt like the Dark One had in fact won TLB and destroyed the Pattern. When I heard that BS would finish the story, I read a couple of his books and enjoyed them. BS completed a thankless task. I have closure. I don't focus on what was written, I think of the story, the characters, the scenes, the moments. The story is RJs, some of the words are BSs. So be it. I know the end, and that is good. I'll leave the sanctimonious parsing and pedantic quibbling to others and just say, "Thank you." I personally believe that Rand's new pipe is just a terangreal from the stash that works for non-channelers. That is MY ending, the way RJ inended. Now for AMOL specifically, There were some very touching and well crafted scenes; Rand/Tam, Noal/Olver, Perrin's arc, Egwene's arc, Lan's arc. All very well done. I even enjoyed the brief Moiraine POV and her tea. I think BS' hands were tied when it came to certain details that RJ left undone. BS probably didn't want to create or change existing canon,and played it safe just connecting the dots that RJ left behind. I can't fault him for that. Most of the time when he strayed off the ranch, he did it well; Androl, Perrin. When he was just conencting the dots, it sometimes came off flat; Fain, Demandred. I am really interested in reading Demandred's arc in the upcoming anthology for this reason alone. I give it a solid "B," not quite a B+, but how could it be? I honestly think we got this ending 2-4 years earlier than if RJ completed it, and we would have been critiquing it just as hard, for some of the same reasons. All is well. The Wheel, she keeps a' turnin'.
  10. Just finished...Whew! Satisfied. Mat/Fain= Clunky. Needed at least one chapter, paragraph, sentence, something prior to that last scene Perrin/Faile= Meh. Perrin's last scene should have been in Mayene, where he finds Faile and Galad both dead. His POV ends with him crying in Berelain's arms... Noal/Olver= Most emotional scene. Tam= Very well done. Birgitte= Yay! Happy ending! Moiraine= OK. Book not big enough to do her justice Rand's time in SG= Well done. Overall, strong work. An enormous undertaking. I could quibble, but I won't. I'll just send a heart felt and meaningful "Thank you" to Harriet and Brandon.
  11. I really hope this story is Logain's road trip, or it may even be Loial at the Stump, Should be good
  12. I Foretell that Avi will forget the names of her future children when she thinks about changing thier names
  13. I Foretell that the "kid" Slayer saw lurking in an alley in the Town was actually Padan Fain scoping the place out, and that Fain's current target is none other than Shadair Haran
  14. If this was done correctly, every main charecter would die. Each death would be a meaningful sacrifice that acts as a puzzle piece that builds on the previous death and lays the foundation for the next death, so that when the final charectar dies it is the coup de grace that brings about the ultimate defeat of the DO. THE END
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