[Blue Ajah Harry Potter Week ] *Game Over - Town Wins* Lego Harry Potter Years 1-4 Mafia

[dicetosser1]

hallia what is the name of ure role?

[Ithillian Turambar]

Welcome to Saturday. I would do a vote count but no-one is voting.

 

Just what is happening?

 

[Turin Turambar]

vote berf

 

You have had enough time to sleep. Give the thoughts.

 

 

Hi IthiMod

[Turin Turambar]

vote berf

 

You have had enough time to sleep. Give the thoughts.

 

 

Hi IthiMod

[Hallia]

I am called a Rolestopper

[ineedfourberfs]

I haven't had enough time for a reread or for my purchase to go through.

 

That is mighty opportunistic for someone who is on the road a lot. Easy target much?

 

Although I may have some noises inferring a reread yesterday...... Indeed.

 

Give me.... 16 hours

[Ithillian Turambar]

Official Vote Count

 

Berf - 1 (Turin)

 

Not Voting - 7 (Hallia, Peace, Berf, Dice, Nicana, Cloud, RTE)

 

With 8 alive it takes 5 to Lynch

 

Current End of Round Bonus = 100 Studs

 

Day 5 Deadline is 9pm BST Tuesday 20th August - because of the weekend.

 

http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20130820T00&p0=1320&msg=Day+5+Deadline&csz=1

[dicetosser1]

thanks hallia

 

RTE  you gonna answer bro?

[ReleaseTheEvil]

@Dice In due time.

[peacesells]

A lot of this has to do with the bus driver claim that Cloud has made.  My first thoughts are that bus driver is not really a town beneficial role.  Going from there we have:

Time is running out. I wanted to hear from Cloud prior to giving what I said. Here are my results from my actions.

 

Night 1: Map view BG: Result = No result (blocked)

Night 2: Map view Cloud: Result = Ginny Weasley

Night 3: Map view Wombat: Result = Voldemort

 

 I believe that Cloud claimed to have switched himself and Hallia last night. Which is what he apparently did as well on N2 since Hallia is claiming to have been Ginny at that time(unless she is lying). So it is very possible that He lied about who he switched last night. Not sure why as town he would switch himself with an unknown quantity like Hallia. As mafia I could see him switching with a townie in case he was viewed.

 

So either Cloud or Wombat is mafia. If cloud is a town Bus Driver then he really switched himself with Hallia. then the view on wombat is true. If wombat is lynched and flips something other than voldemort then Cloud is a Mafia bus driver and he switched wombat with whoever is voldemort. (possibly himself).   

 

So cloud you need to give us your information: when you upgraded, who you became (again)?, who you switched each night? Why you switched yourself with a person that could easily be more valuable than you?

 

 

 

The only reason I haven't changed my vote yet is that I think Wombat verifies Cloud but Cloud doesn't necessarily verify Wombat.

 

It has been a busy week so Wombat, were you voting/pushing a Cloud Lynch Day 2?

Turin comments on his role and possibility of being a scum role.

 

 

When did you become a bus driver cloud? And who did you switch last night?

 

I bought a full character upgrade at the start of Day 2 and then I became the Bus Driver. During Night 1 I was still a Vanilla and used a Revelio charm on you. During Night 2 I swapped me and Hallia, and during Night 3 I did the same thing again.

 

My reasoning behind swapping me and Hallia on Night 2 was that I thought she and Basel were the last two mafia members alive. I was more certain of Basel but I refrained from swapping him with anyone in case you chose to view him. I also didn't swap you with anyone (and potentially save you from a NK) because I thought that Mish still had two Draughts and that she would use one on you, and the other on herself. Thorum didn't look like a NK target because he has been playing scummy, and so I thought that I would be a viable NK option because the mafia wouldn't go for you or Mish. I swapped myself with Hallia in the hope that if they decided to fire a shot at me it would kill Hallia instead. 

 

During Night 3 I did the same thing, but now Mish because a bodyguard and so I again refrained from swapping you or her because I believed that she would protect you. I didn't really know what to do with my action and so I decided to do the same thing again. Thinking back I could have thought it out more but I guess I was just feeling lazy.

 

 

Not at all.  Since this knowledge has changed, Turin.  You knew who I was, pre-character boost.  I upgraded to someone else, and am no longer.

 

Yes, it seems that people can't change allignment when they buy a character upgrade (would be a modding nightmare if a mafia goon would turn town) so when Turin viewed me as Ginny on Night 2 it basically confirmed you as town. 

 

 

Time is running out. I wanted to hear from Cloud prior to giving what I said. Here are my results from my actions.

 

Night 1: Map view BG: Result = No result (blocked)

Night 2: Map view Cloud: Result = Ginny Weasley

Night 3: Map view Wombat: Result = Voldemort

 

 I believe that Cloud claimed to have switched himself and Hallia last night. Which is what he apparently did as well on N2 since Hallia is claiming to have been Ginny at that time(unless she is lying). So it is very possible that He lied about who he switched last night. Not sure why as town he would switch himself with an unknown quantity like Hallia. As mafia I could see him switching with a townie in case he was viewed.

 

So either Cloud or Wombat is mafia. If cloud is a town Bus Driver then he really switched himself with Hallia. then the view on wombat is true. If wombat is lynched and flips something other than voldemort then Cloud is a Mafia bus driver and he switched wombat with whoever is voldemort. (possibly himself).   

 

So cloud you need to give us your information: when you upgraded, who you became (again)?, who you switched each night? Why you switched yourself with a person that could easily be more valuable than you?

 

 

 

The only reason I haven't changed my vote yet is that I think Wombat verifies Cloud but Cloud doesn't necessarily verify Wombat.

 

It has been a busy week so Wombat, were you voting/pushing a Cloud Lynch Day 2?

 

See my explanation above.

 

@Turin:

I don't remember saying much about Cloud on D2. IIRC I started with a push on Dice and then moved to BG after it came out that he blocked you. I'll reread tomorrow when I can get on my comp again.

 

Wombat was the first to really start pushing on BG and that made him look more townie to my eyes, but Turin viewed him as Voldemort and while he could have been framed the chances are higher that he is just Voldemort. 

 

Probably. Hallia and Cloud both claim the same character (Ginny), so one of them is lying.

 

Turin is, basically, confirmed. Unless something really strange happened last night, that makes Wombat mafia.

 

I'm leaning to Hallia instead of Cloud for the last mafia, because of her, basically, killing Darthe

 

Are you even reading the game? I never said that I was Ginny. Hallia was Ginny, and is now most likely Hermione. She is town, and so am I. I won't tell you guys my first character because it is a well known one and if mafia chooses to fake claim it then I can trap them with it. 

 

 

vote hallia   if you get a weasley and then upgrade who can you possibly upgrasade to?

 

Hallia is town.

 

 

Bolded several parts of this post.  First, his explanation of why he switched with Hallia for 2 nights is not an explanation.  He never explained what town benefit there was to his actions.  He did spout out a bunch of misdirection to try and make it look like he was answering Turin..but really there is no answer there.

 

Cloud, what was your intended objective in switching with Hallia? 

 

Oh and if Wombat ends up flipping town (which I doubt will happen) then it means that a Polyjuice was used on Hallia in an attempt to frame her. Before Turin's post #940 Hallia explained that Turin has already viewed her because he mentioned he knew who Ginny was (I need to look up the post but I will believe it for now), and afterwards Turin explained that he investigated me on Night 2 and not Hallia. This all comes makes sense because I swapped myself with Hallia. 

 

For a claimed Bus Driver you sure forget how your role works quite a bit.  I targeted you.  I saw a Polyjuice.  Even if you are a Bus Driver, that Polyjuice was still targeted at you.

 

At this point in the day Wombat knows he is dead.  So this post strikes me as a good bit of distancing.  Once this post was made..the 2 of them trade barbs for like 6 or 7 posts right after.  Looking like a fabricated argument.

 

 

Oh and if Wombat ends up flipping town (which I doubt will happen) then it means that a Polyjuice was used on Hallia in an attempt to frame her. Before Turin's post #940 Hallia explained that Turin has already viewed her because he mentioned he knew who Ginny was (I need to look up the post but I will believe it for now), and afterwards Turin explained that he investigated me on Night 2 and not Hallia. This all comes makes sense because I swapped myself with Hallia. 

 

 

 

 

Dude, a busdriver swaps two people so any action performed on me would have been performed on Hallia instead and vice versa.

 

And unless you're a Mafia Bus Driver, the person "framing" Hallia wouldn't have known that now would they?

 

 

I don't think they were meaning to frame Hallia, but either way the possibility of a frame job is only there is you flip town.

 

@Thorum: I actually tried sending in two NA's one Night and I was told by the Mods that I couldn't do that. I think that the mafia can also only send in one NA per person and seeing that Avada Kedavra is an item I'm guessing that's their NK. The advantage of you lying about being targeted by a Dementor is to gain town cred, but that trick won't work if nobody sends in a Patronum to help you and despite that you still end up alive.

 

 

The previous two posts shows that Cloud blatantly contradicts himself.  Comes across like he is making things up to serve an immediate purpose without remembering he posted the opposite earlier.  I made a similar slip as scum in Despotheras game a day ago.  Boy did I feel stoopid.

 

 

 

Can now just please lynch Wombat? He will flip mafia. I can assure you of this. 

 

 

 

 

Dude, a busdriver swaps two people so any action performed on me would have been performed on Hallia instead and vice versa.

 

And unless you're a Mafia Bus Driver, the person "framing" Hallia wouldn't have known that now would they?

 

 

After rereading the last page I now see what you were talking about at first. You said that even if I swapped myself and Hallia the Polyjuice potion was still targeted at me so that would mean I'm mafia and I used it on myself right? Well that would be probable if you weren't lying, and if you want to push this idea of me being under the effect of a Polyjuice potion you first need to die so that we can know your allignment and see if you are speaking the truth or not. So if you are indeed town and are about to catch a mafia who only you can verify, then the most pro-town move right now would be for you to promote your own lynch. Don't you agree?

 

 

 

Also,

 

Vote: Cloud

 

Previous 3 posts are examples of Wombat's/clouds end of day go at each other.  Funny how Cloud claims bus driver when it looks like the 2 of them are bussing the hell out of each other. 

 

Now given all that interaction there is another thing that concerns me.  When I was first reading the thread I had a big scum read on Cloud...then my opinion changed to a pretty strong town read on him.  Now I'm back to leaning scum.  This makes me think that maybe he isn't mafia but 3rd party?  I think there have been 5 scum deaths so far.. and 6 seems a bit overkill for a 17 player game. 

[peacesells]

I was Ginny, she was vanilla.  Someone asked who I could possibly upgrade to, and the answer is McGonagal - Hence why I have the time turner.

 

Hallia, what does the time turner do?

[peacesells]

And what made you think it would help Darthe?  A couple people have asked this and I don't see an answer.

[dicetosser1]

vote RTE

[peacesells]

@Dice In due time.

 

 

vote RTE

 

I take it you are not accepting of this answer?

[dicetosser1]

nope

[Ithillian Turambar]

Official Vote Count

 

Berf - 1 (Turin)

RTE - 1 (Dice)

 

Not Voting - 6 (Hallia, Peace, Berf, Nicana, Cloud, RTE)

 

With 8 alive it takes 5 to Lynch

 

Current End of Round Bonus = 200 Studs

 

Day 5 Deadline is 9pm BST Tuesday 20th August - because of the weekend.

 

http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20130820T00&p0=1320&msg=Day+5+Deadline&csz=1

 

Morning :)

[Ithillian Turambar]

Rita Skeeter reporting in from the scene of Lego Harry Potter Mafia once again! Last night was a tumultuous one, with not one but TWO deaths. However, one of the deceased was a member of the guilty party while the other was none other than our dearest Lilly Potter. Alas, her death was not in vain. Last night I staked out the residences of the one they call Cloud, who claims to be none other than Knight Bus driver Ernie Prang. Cloud appears to have been an asset to the good guys and possessing important and considerable means of helping out the good guys. For that reason I feared the worst for his fate and remained vigilant at his quarters. However, a very peculiar thing happened unlike anything I have ever witnessed before. Early on into the night, a thick cloud of darkness suddenly set upon the residence, shrouding it from my view. Despite my best attempts I was unable to disperse the cloud and come morning I had no result to report, the cloud having remained until daybreak. This is especially suspicious and I intend to explore this further. This is especially curious as Cloud claims to have not conducted his route last night... I intend to investigate this further and will strive to get answers from the man himself. It is worth noting that the good guys are close to victory, and that this is no time to squander votes or pursue false leads. This is especially relevant to dice at the moment, who seems to be off the mark. I have information which suggests that the one they call ReleaseTheEvil is among the good. But be wary, for the most trustworthy and faithful of the good guys seem to be at the highest risk of imminent peril. Harm must not come to Sirius Black, first and foremost. To keep up with the latest developments at Lego Harry Potter Mafia, be sure to pick up tomorrow's copy of the Daily Prophet where I will continue to report my findings.

[dicetosser1]

Rita strikes again
 

unvote but i still want an answer

[dicetosser1]

you know what forget the answer

[dicetosser1]

@peace

 

in response to your cloud case   the bit about 6 mafia being too many   I do think there is at least one more. I cant see Bellatrix being left out tho she may be an upgrade i suppose. 

[peacesells]

@peace

 

in response to your cloud case   the bit about 6 mafia being too many   I do think there is at least one more. I cant see Bellatrix being left out tho she may be an upgrade i suppose. 

 

I'm not real familiar with the subject matter so I can't comment on that.  I don't know who Bellatrix is.  I kinda watched a couple of the first movies when my son was younger.  Never read the books.

[_CLOUD]

@Peace: Yeah me playing as the Busdriver in this game is more of a negative utility role for town :P But I did explain why I switched myself with Hallia on Night 2. I clearly stated that I thought she was mafia (and this can also be found in my cases) and that I were a likely NK target due to all the defensive abilities in the game. I didn't want to risk screwing up any viewings or protects so I swapped myself with her in the hope that when they decide to shoot me it would kill a scum instead. 

 

Also it's so easy for you to just call my back and forth with Wombat distancing And yes I did contradict myself about the Hallia being framed thing, but only because I was starting to get confused about my Busdriver role, and how a Potion Detector would work if someone used a Polyjuice potion on me while I swapped positions with another person. It was just a honest town mistake; mafia are the ones who do everything perfectly and if my play last Day was just an act I would have made sure to not contradict myself so obviously.

 

And how can you use your own failed scum meta from Despo's game as a reason to paint me as mafia? You are literally using your own meta to call me mafia...

 

 

I don't think that you are mafia though.

[_CLOUD]

Could the person who has Rita's character please reveal now? This game is about to end and we could win this very easily if we have another confirmed townie in the game.

[_CLOUD]

Now given all that interaction there is another thing that concerns me.  When I was first reading the thread I had a big scum read on Cloud...then my opinion changed to a pretty strong town read on him.  Now I'm back to leaning scum.  This makes me think that maybe he isn't mafia but 3rd party?  I think there have been 5 scum deaths so far.. and 6 seems a bit overkill for a 17 player game. 

 

Ok I can't believe that I have missed this while I was reading your post. First you think me and Wombat were just distancing from each other, and then at the end of your post you think I'm third party? Explain how I could have been distancing from a player who flipped mafia if I have a solo win condition.

[ReleaseTheEvil]

Cloud how do you explain Rita's result?