Tarmon Gai´don Mafia Part 1 - Tel´aran´rhiod

[Yates]

Ok, I think I misread you earlier nvm

Me too, then... Or he's making it up.

 

I'll look when I get home if I have time.

[Andrej]

 

Let me assuage your fears, since you missed the post where I spelled it out for you. It's an intentional derail. I was trying to intentionally derail the spidey meme in advance. You're welcome.

 

 That's not the way it looked to me when your follow through was Batman pics and more Spidey memes.

 

Is this your hang up?

 

To clarify - I wasn't saying you were trying to derail the thread. I'm saying your attempt to stop the Spidey memes doesn't jive with posting more of them.

[Rhea]

If I had BFG at the top then I would understand. I think a big deal is being made out of nothing. 

 

Top of the list is town

Middle is Null

Bottom is scum. 

 

Does that help clarify?

 

I'm not voting till I get home and actually take the time to pick this apart. Things may change after that!

 

 

 

 

You guys are seriously going to get me written up!

[Hallia]

[unvote]

Thanks Rhea, I feel better about you now.

 

Now, back to RTE. It seems he was content to fade into the background.

 

Come back?

[Andrej]

My reads from town to scum...

 

Leelou

BFG

Yates

Verbal

RTE

Hallia

Dice

Zander

AJ

Talmanes

 

If I had BFG at the top then I would understand. I think a big deal is being made out of nothing. 

 

Top of the list is town

Middle is Null

Bottom is scum. 

 

Does that help clarify?

 

Not really.

 

And technically, BFG is at the top of your list.

 

There's really no way to differentiate where the top/middle/bottom starts or ends.

 

Some actual thought or reasonings behind the order would help.

[Andrej]

Thanks Rhea, I feel better about you now.

 

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[BFG]

@Andrej - Verb especially, as I've seen many a spiderman thread when he is around. I don't know Yates, and he's been the other biggest spammer.

Leelou has done a bit but seems to already be getting serious which is normal from what I remember of her play style. Hallia I know somewhat and her behavior seems normal as well so far, based on seeing her around in the BT a fair amount.

Honestly if you weren't already getting down to business I'd be suspicious of you, as you generally get serious very quickly if memory serves.

So to put it all out there right now by default Yates is on my radar simply because of the spam and the fact I don't know him well enough to know if it's regular posting or an intentional derail.

There are still a few who have done little to no posting and so I'd like to see more of everyone before making any harder judgements.

This was more detailed than I was expecting. Too clarify, when you say normal you mean normal town?

 

 

Even for a BT game surprisingly little content thus far but we all need to start somewhere.

 

Two people who stand out most to me so far are Ley and Hallia. 

 

 

Oh. Townie Leelou pokes out her head, me likes.

 

Hallia is trying too hard to look townie and has been doing some buddying and cheerleading so far. Too safe, too "pro-town".

 

Ley is playing way too safe for his usual style. Too reserved, conservative, and logical. He's not being as bold or on edge as usual. Seems fake.

 

Of the two, I'm going to Unvote. Vote Ley.

 

Early, unpressured reads from RTE are more likely to come from Town!RTE. I would also expect RTE to have early opinions on Ley (although I can't remember Ley's play well enough to know if it's a fair assessment or not). The vote is ~probably a good look as well

 

@RTE can you explain what you mean by 'cheerleading' regarding Hallia? And the 'too safe, too pro-town'?..

[BFG]

Well, we are getting serious. 

 

I do not post much. I'm full time in school and full time working, so I will post once, maybe twice a day. 

 

What I think so far is that there has been a lot of spam. Spiderman/Batman stuff is all fluff.

 

Mostly null reads, typical for D1. 

 

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Yates I haven't played with before, not sure yet, pushed to get the game going. 

 

RTE typical gameplay from what I've seen. 

 

Ley I think I've played one game with a long time ago. Not sure what to think atm. Why is AJ town exactly?

 

Hallia not posting much makes me nervous. Needs to come play. 

 

Verbal spam. 

 

Seph seems genuine.

 

Zander....Hi! I know you. Not much to go on yet though.

 

Dice is Dice.

 

Leelou..nice to see you! Posting, seems to be asking questions and playing the game. 

 

AJ not sure yet. Posts are good so far.

 

Talmanes so far I'm not seeing anything unusual.

 

 

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Did I miss anyone?

 

[v]Hallia[/v]

 

I will start there!

Bold, can you explain the difference between AJ and Yates at this stage?

 

(underlined noted for now)

[BFG]

Townish:

 

AJ

Talamanes

...maybe Leelou

 

Null:

 

RTE

 

Wolfish

 

Yates

Seph

Ley

 

Rest: undecided

???

 

Your town reads are ok with what you've posted, but I don't understand the rest from what you've posted, except maybe Ley. Can you explain more?

 

 

 

So to put it all out there right now by default Yates is on my radar simply because of the spam and the fact I don't know him well enough to know if it's regular posting or an intentional derail.

Let me assuage your fears, since you missed the post where I spelled it out for you. It's an intentional derail. I was trying to intentionally derail the spidey meme in advance. You're welcome.

 

Also, I like playing with myself as much as the next guy but not in internet games. You don't get to accuse me of being spammy when the intent of my spam was clearly stated and I was the only one playing the game at the time.

 

To that end, what was I derailing? I was the only one laying any tracks...

 

I think reading this out of sequence isn't helping understand it

 

I agree that I don't think you were derailing anything at the time, but I don't understand the thought process behind derailing a Spidery thread by posting Spidey pics??? And I think this last is one of the points AJ is saying/asking?

[Leyrann]

Can we just stop the damn squabbling over five (or six, WHATEVER) spiderman pictures? Every single point of information that we could possibly get from it has already been milked out, time to move on to the next thing.

[BFG]

Can we just stop the damn squabbling over five (or six, WHATEVER) spiderman pictures? Every single point of information that we could possibly get from it has already been milked out, time to move on to the next thing.

Lol, probably a fair point

[dicetosser1]

If I had BFG at the top then I would understand. I think a big deal is being made out of nothing. 

 

Top of the list is town

Middle is Null

Bottom is scum. 

 

Does that help clarify?

 

I'm not voting till I get home and actually take the time to pick this apart. Things may change after that!

 

 

 

 

You guys are seriously going to get me written up!

 

No it doesnt

 

 

My reads from town to scum...

 

Leelou

BFG

Yates

Verbal

RTE

Hallia

Dice

Zander

AJ

Talmanes

 

 

stole aJs quote cause it had the list in it.

 

 

@Rhea   the Bold reads as this is your reads list IN ORDER. Thus id like to know why people are where they are.

 

Would appreciate it if you could clearly show who the nulls are

[BFG]

 

Not at all, I just don't go around shaking every single tree. First I decide if I think there is anything there too fall out.

 

Moving on:

 

[v] Zander [/v]

 

Out of nowhere you flood the game with halfway coherent halfway spam posts. I already stated I was looking for signs of a potential derail, and you've fulfilled it. You included just enough content to try and ward off suspicion, then started a bandwagon based on someone's opinion, despite the fact that you openly asked for input to back RTEs assumptions.

 

Let seems normal as can be to me, and I've been around him a long time. It seems to me that RTE may be trying to put suspicion on Ley, and have Zander start the bandwagon. Those two are in my short list.

 

First: Spicy post i like it

 

1st Bold- You're prolly not gonna like me then...sad face.

2nd Bold- You say derail and say engaging, making reads and Zandering.  but you know ....

 

 

Yet you still don't explain your read/vote???

 

 

It's my early impressions. Wanted to help get the game started. Over 100 posts and almost none were gameplay. So I put my thoughts out there. I stand by those impressions.

 

But with Hallia you were quite specific with cheerleading and buddying. Which posts gave you that impression?

 

 

 

 

 

It's my early impressions. Wanted to help get the game started. Over 100 posts and almost none were gameplay. So I put my thoughts out there. I stand by those impressions.

Okay but what's informing those impressions? Do you see why to me, as someone who isn't you, these reads might come across as fake?

 

 

Tone of their posts thus far based on meta and gut.

 

In this game if anyone has anything better they are going on regarding their reads I'd love to know what...

 

Again, this doesn't explain your initial read on Hallia.

[BFG]

@Dice town?

[ReleaseTheEvil]

Ok listen I don't want to die without having put in a solid effort. Can people please re ask me their questions and I will reply tomorrow morning? BFG you are fine, yours are recent enough.

 

And you happen to have become excellent at reading me... Hope I'm not mafia with you soon

[ReleaseTheEvil]

Against you rather. With you would be nice. Think it worked out well last time it happened.

[BFG]

Ok listen I don't want to die without having put in a solid effort. Can people please re ask me their questions and I will reply tomorrow morning? BFG you are fine, yours are recent enough.

 

And you happen to have become excellent at reading me... Hope I'm not mafia with you soon

 

What are your reads on Rhea, Talmanes and Zander at the moment?

[dicetosser1]

@Dice town?

 

yep!

 

you?

[Andrej]

Early, unpressured reads from RTE are more likely to come from Town!RTE. I would also expect RTE to have early opinions on Ley (although I can't remember Ley's play well enough to know if it's a fair assessment or not). The vote is ~probably a good look as well

Does it matter that those reads were made with reasons that couldn't really be supported ITT yet?

 

Also Ley said something along the lines that RTE has pushed him early and often in their past few games as scum. What makes the vote good?

[Andrej]

Ok listen I don't want to die without having put in a solid effort. Can people please re ask me their questions and I will reply tomorrow morning? BFG you are fine, yours are recent enough.

What was your intent when you voted Ley?

 

How was his response a good one and how does it align with what you stated is his scum meta?

[Talmanes]

@BFG the first post you quoted I did not have any front running suspects, so I was content to wait until I did. I then explained why Zander became my number one priority and got my vote, so I'm not sure on what you are wanting clarification on.

I've also explained multiple times why RTE is a close second. I still feel comfortable lynching either one, and as I stated, Zander now seems unlikely, but RTE seemed likely. I'm now keeping my vote on Zander to make a point, and because I want him lynched anyway.

[BFG]

 

@Dice town?

 

yep!

 

you?

 

Yup

 

 

Early, unpressured reads from RTE are more likely to come from Town!RTE. I would also expect RTE to have early opinions on Ley (although I can't remember Ley's play well enough to know if it's a fair assessment or not). The vote is ~probably a good look as well

Does it matter that those reads were made with reasons that couldn't really be supported ITT yet?

 

Also Ley said something along the lines that RTE has pushed him early and often in their past few games as scum. What makes the vote good?

 

Yes, I'm waiting for RTE to answer questions there.

 

The vote is ~probably good because it was early and game related. Mafia!RTE jokes about as long as possible (obvious caveat that we had a similar conversation in HP, so he's aware of that now). Ley said that RTE did it in their past few games, and pushed it most when mafia. I assumed that made it a neutral alignment thing, since I wouldn't say RTE pushed it hard this game and backed off pretty quickly.

[BFG]

@BFG the first post you quoted I did not have any front running suspects, so I was content to wait until I did. I then explained why Zander became my number one priority and got my vote, so I'm not sure on what you are wanting clarification on.

I've also explained multiple times why RTE is a close second. I still feel comfortable lynching either one, and as I stated, Zander now seems unlikely, but RTE seemed likely. I'm now keeping my vote on Zander to make a point, and because I want him lynched anyway.

I wanted you to clarify what you meant when you said e.g. Hallia was behaving like Hallia, etc without saying whether it was alignment indicative or not. At the time it bugged me and I'm not sure why.

[BFG]

I will never understand on what basis Hallia gets town cleared

 

Makes it "funnier" when she stomps on everyone as mafia

Yet you still haven't explained why you were thinking this about Hallia in the first place

 

 

RTE - why are you so stuck on your reads from before the game even really began?

 

 

Pretty much this

[Zander?]

Final point on you AJ:

Still good lynching RTE to give me some more time with Yates though. RTE hasn't done anything to change my opinion and I still think there's a glaring problem with his logic and handling of Ley. How can he vote Ley saying he was being too clean and logical after only 3 posts, two of which weren't game related, and then later come back and call him townie for exhibiting the EXACT behaviors he claims are Ley's scum traits? Doesn't add up.

 

Not liking Rhea too much atm either. Not a lot of original though and sketchy arrangements/reasonings for her reads.

^^ This entire post is a "talking to the crowd" post. Those are INHERENTLY scummy.

 

 

isnt every post technically talking to the crowd?  please touch on this Yates.