[Game]: Black Tower Mafia II - The revolt.

[Darthe]

Desscum is in the house.

 

des

[Darthe]

basel lynch is eww.

[csarmi]

Darthe, I'd like to hear some psychology based reasoning for that, those are fun.

[csarmi]

basel lynch is eww.

What about a Len lynch? We both know he won't start playing unless lynched. Known fact.

[Niniel]

Vote Count

 

Ley (1):  Darthe

 

Csarmi (1): NotBob, Basel

 

Lenlo (1): Csarmi

 

Basel (4): Ed, Turin, Cloud, Ley, Des, Lenlo

 

Not voting: Dice, Talya,  Pralaya, RTE, Via

 

 

With 15 players alive it takes 8 to lynch. 

 

Deadline is Friday 9 PM CET. (GMT +1) 

27 1/2 hours left.

[hazelkrs1]

Desscum is in the house.

 

des

Nope, try again.

 

@Lenlo: its uberscummy to try and look more townie by scolding everyone for something in hindsight. How was anyone that joke-voted Ley (I think the majority of votes on his train) supposed to know if he was the cop?

 

For that matter, how do you know he isn't lying? How do you know we don't already have one scum in the bag by pressuring someone easy to pressure right off the bat?

 

You trying to scold everyone when he brought all the negative attention on himself with that guidelines list is completely unnecessary.

 

Also, your vote on Basel does seem somewhat opportunistic to me (you just parrot what others have said about him), but lastly you trying to stick to your fos on Pray for his first post when EVERYONE else in the game saw that as a joke-post, and Pray himself said it was, is enought to make me

 

Unvote, Vote Lenlo

[Talya]

He first puts me at L-2 (within 24 hours after the game started, and with, I think, about 72, maybe 96 hours to go), on page 5, above all, and then he continues to talk about how L-2 is REALLY close to a lynch, and how two mafia could easily jump in and end that poor townie. Which I agree, but I don't put someone at L-2 that early.

 

It's a bit like he's doing something, then he's saying how it's very, very, very bad to do that at that moment.

 

I see what you mean now, I was tired when I reread last night, but that clairifies it. thank you. 

 

 

I think the Basel vote to move Ley to L-2 to be the most sketchy of all the votes on the Ley train. It was a bit too early to go there with out a blatant slip from Ley.

IMO Ley's superdefensive play prior to his reveal was a slip in itself. At the time, he was behaving massively scummy, and I voted him for it. As things are now, he's a claimed cop with no CC, but that didn't apply when I made my vote, since he hadn't claimed then.

 

 

How was Ley's superdefensive play a slip, when that is how he normally plays. If you are using that as just the reason for you thinking he was scummy. you didn't say you thought he was scummy when you voted, just that he was 'overreacting and hyperdefensive'

 

Hahahahahahahaha

 

Talya she wants to hear more from Turin.

Turin said Mage is hearing too much from Talya.

 

 

Oh I miss you <3

 

 

if i voted right now it would be you. But im not completely sold. therefore im holding off.  

 

What is with all the rush to lynch in this game??  Its already made the cop reveal and yet you are still in a hurry

Talk is cheap. Votes are the real thing. If you don't back up your opinion with a vote, it might as well not exist.

There is no rush to lynch and no hurry. But people not voting is not really acceptable at this point.

 

If you wanna vote me, just vote me. But don't give me this nonsense about "not completely sold". Who would have a firm and final (completely sold) opinion formed on D1? I'll tell you. The scum. That's who.

 

 

I quoted this more for Dice's line, if you believe he is mafia, state your reasons and vote, that is just a threat and to me, feels like you want him to back off. 

 

 

Csarmi says that a cop view won't work on him on Night 1, why say this? it looks at bit suspicious now that we know Ley is the Cop. I then start thinking they could be working together. a note to keep.

I believe it should be obvious. The pro-town move is to not let the cop waste a view on you. Note that I was also interested in the reactions (nothing noteworthy).

 

Des says he has reads on Ley and Lenlo

But he doesn't say what sort of reads now does he? I assumed he meant scummy.

 

 

I must admit, I had forgotten about it until the read through, one of those, was it a coincidence moment? In RL, I would have said...ohh how spooky! But this mafia and i'm uber suspicious of these little things, lol

 

I assumed he meant mafia too. 

 

 

But an even bigger fos for those who came out scolding town for running the cop up to claim. Lenlo is the obvious one here, and uberscummy for that move. I think Dice was the other, can't remember.

 

 

Was it really uberscummy to call people stupid for doing something stupid?

 

Nothing much, in other words. Dice added for my scummy list. I like Talya's recent posts.

 

@Lenlo - I know you're busy, but care to give your thoughts on what happened so far?

 

Im annoyed at how quickly the cop had to reveal, I find people's saying its scummy to call people out on their really quick run up annoying as well, but atleast its a valid reason for fos and such so I can let it pass.

 

Im good with a Basel lynch and am also good with RTE. I find their crap surrounding Ley, with the not knowing the VC and then the roundabout attempt at modkilling scummy. I also still have a small FoS at Pral for his opening post. unvote vote Basel

 

Puts him at L-3 if I remember right.

 

 

Looking back over those votes, I'm not sure how many vote counts were given, I don't think any (but I maybe wrong, most of it happened my time and Tina would be in the same zone - give or take an hour). and Len...maybe you need to count, as it put him L-2, see how easy it is and yet you vote him for also doing it. Double standards. 

 

Vote Len

 

Suspicious now of Basel, but after realising the lack of vote count, I could see how it got going so quickly. However there has only just been a vote count and Len votes and gets the count wrong. hence I went for him. Dice's quote also got my attention. 

 

I think Des and Darthe have gone down, though always seem to appear together - maybe I should start a rumour about that :-)

[Talya]

Oh I forgot to say (been every long day) - RTE's claim about how he had seen Ley's play being defensive, just before Ley claimed, made me think he was buddying slightly

[Leyrann]

Desscum is in the house.

 

des

 

Nearly enough reasoning to make me change my vote.

 

Nah, don't worry Darthe, it's not likely I'll switch away from Basel before he's lynched after that big slip he made (imo).

 

 

Vote Count

 

Ley (1):  Darthe

 

Csarmi (1): NotBob, Basel

 

Lenlo (1): Csarmi

 

Basel (4): Ed, Turin, Cloud, Ley, Des, Lenlo

 

Not voting: Dice, Talya,  Pralaya, RTE, Via

 

 

With 15 players alive it takes 8 to lynch. 

 

Deadline is Friday 9 PM CET. (GMT +1) 

27 1/2 hours left.

 

 

1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 = 4.

 

 

Desscum is in the house.

 

des

Nope, try again.

 

@Lenlo: its uberscummy to try and look more townie by scolding everyone for something in hindsight. How was anyone that joke-voted Ley (I think the majority of votes on his train) supposed to know if he was the cop?

 

For that matter, how do you know he isn't lying? How do you know we don't already have one scum in the bag by pressuring someone easy to pressure right off the bat?

 

You trying to scold everyone when he brought all the negative attention on himself with that guidelines list is completely unnecessary.

 

Also, your vote on Basel does seem somewhat opportunistic to me (you just parrot what others have said about him), but lastly you trying to stick to your fos on Pray for his first post when EVERYONE else in the game saw that as a joke-post, and Pray himself said it was, is enought to make me

 

Unvote, Vote Lenlo

 

 

The majority of the votes on my train? Majority is more than half of them, so you're saying 4 JOKE votes on the same person? A fourth vote on one person is NEVER a joke vote, no matter how much someone might act like it is.

 

I don't exactly see your reasoning on the Lenlo vote by the way. I mean, 6 votes on one person in less than 24 hours on D1, in a 15 player game, NO MATTER the circumstances, is BS. He's right to call people out on that, be it before or after the reveal.

 

For the rest I agree with you though. I wouldn't say it's worth changing to Len though, considering Basel managed to put a slip-up (claiming L-2 is far too close while doing that himself) and "confusion about vote count" and such things in but seven posts.

[Leyrann]

@Talya's post: That's a good point about Len's double standards. I'm still happy with my vote at Basel though.

[Lenlo]

Talya I said If I remember right that put him at L-3, not L-2. So no there are no double standards there.

 

basel lynch is eww.

What about a Len lynch? We both know he won't start playing unless lynched. Known fact.

 

I am the most active dead man ever known

 

 

Desscum is in the house.

des

Nope, try again.

@Lenlo: its uberscummy to try and look more townie by scolding everyone for something in hindsight. How was anyone that joke-voted Ley (I think the majority of votes on his train) supposed to know if he was the cop?

For that matter, how do you know he isn't lying? How do you know we don't already have one scum in the bag by pressuring someone easy to pressure right off the bat?

You trying to scold everyone when he brought all the negative attention on himself with that guidelines list is completely unnecessary.

Also, your vote on Basel does seem somewhat opportunistic to me (you just parrot what others have said about him), but lastly you trying to stick to your fos on Pray for his first post when EVERYONE else in the game saw that as a joke-post, and Pray himself said it was, is enought to make me

Unvote, Vote Lenlo

 

Are you attempting to discredit the cop claim? Im sorry but if someone claims Cop or Doc, until they are proven wrong with a CC/something else or do something so incredibly scummy that it is impossible to explain then I am going to believe them. 

 

Besides im not trying to look towny, I am literally just being a smart ass and making fun of them for ringing up the cop D1. And as Ley said, most of those were joke votes? Im sorry it stops being a joke vote once a legit train is forming and he starts to have a real chance at being lynched. At that point its hiding your vote behidn everyone elses with the label joke vote.

[dicetosser1]

@talya  I had previously said i was wary of him and he started pushing for me to vote. 2 days out from DL Well guess what? I dont have a solid read on anyone  wary is about the strongest feeling i have at this point. My comment there was in direct response to Csarmi

 

to quote John Malkovich in Rounders  "Ill splash (read vote) the pot whenever I please."

 

I wasn't threatening. simply stating who i would vote for right then

[dicetosser1]

@des

 

 

I thought the ley vote built too quick but i can see why.

 

Ley, bro i think you need to learn from history. If you keep getting lynched early and dont like it then you probably need to change something about ure game. If these rules of ures are a step in that direction fine, but i hope u note the reaction  they have gotten you and that they did not stop you from almost getting lynched. Take it as a lesson or hint or whatever and use it to build on.

 

Csarmi WHY do you think he was in no danger of being lynched at L-2?

 

 

the highlighted. THAT put egg on my face??  seriously?  I posted this on page 8 and Ley had claimed 2 or 3 pages earlier . You are saying thats not quick? to almost lynch and get a claim in 5 pages on DAY 1????

 

I think you are grasping at straws des

[Darthe]

Cause des is scum

[Leyrann]

@Len: How hard is it to check the vote count before putting one down? It's not that I don't agree with the vote (I think with Basel we have the most chance to catch a mafia), but still, if you're over halfway to a lynch, you should make sure you know exactly how many away from a lynch someone is after your vote.

[Leyrann]

Cause des is scum

 

You're too smart for me, Darthe. Could you please explain your reasoning for those not as smart as you?

[ed2funy]

Oh, csmarci, it's because I love hamburgers. And Turin being a cow and all, well...

We have a thing.

[Niniel]

 

Vote Count

 

Ley (1):  Darthe

 

Csarmi (2): NotBob, Basel

 

Lenlo (3): Csarmi, Des, Talya

 

Basel (5): Ed, Turin, Cloud, Ley,  Lenlo

 

Not voting: Dice,   Pralaya, RTE, Via

 

 

With 15 players alive it takes 8 to lynch. 

 

Deadline is Friday 9 PM CET. (GMT +1) 

25 hours and 35 minutes left.

 

 

I think this should be right.

[Leyrann]

Darthe, are you really still voting me?

[Darthe]

Are you saying I shouldnt be?

 

It would make sense to unvote.

[ed2funy]

O_o

[Lenlo]

@Len: How hard is it to check the vote count before putting one down? It's not that I don't agree with the vote (I think with Basel we have the most chance to catch a mafia), but still, if you're over halfway to a lynch, you should make sure you know exactly how many away from a lynch someone is after your vote.

I did check! See even looking at Tina it shows him at 5 votes, with 8 to lynch. That puts him at L-3! I did my math right so I actually am correct! HA! Knew Talya was wrong. I knew I did that math right.

 

 

 

Vote Count

 

Ley (1):  Darthe

 

Csarmi (2): NotBob, Basel

 

Lenlo (3): Csarmi, Des, Talya

 

Basel (5): Ed, Turin, Cloud, Ley,  Lenlo

 

Not voting: Dice,   Pralaya, RTE, Via

 

 

With 15 players alive it takes 8 to lynch. 

 

Deadline is Friday 9 PM CET. (GMT +1) 

25 hours and 35 minutes left.

 

 

I think this should be right.

 

[csarmi]

Are you saying I shouldnt be?

 

It would make sense to unvote.

Just vote Len. That's the new hype.

[csarmi]

Oh yes, gonna be back tomorrow. Another long day. Feeling good about the trains and activity tho. We'll do fine.

 

Night all.

[Leyrann]

 

Cause des is scum

 

You're too smart for me, Darthe. Could you please explain your reasoning for those not as smart as you?

 

 

Quoting this because it got ignored.

 

 

@Len: How hard is it to check the vote count before putting one down? It's not that I don't agree with the vote (I think with Basel we have the most chance to catch a mafia), but still, if you're over halfway to a lynch, you should make sure you know exactly how many away from a lynch someone is after your vote.

I did check! See even looking at Tina it shows him at 5 votes, with 8 to lynch. That puts him at L-3! I did my math right so I actually am correct! HA! Knew Talya was wrong. I knew I did that math right.

 

 

Stop skimming. Des unvoted just after your vote.