MAFIA - **STARGATE SG1** - GAME OVER - TOWN WINS

[Pralaya]

Is there a way to figure out why you failed?

 

Does it sound like you got roleblocked? Does it sound like your action doesn't work on me? Did you clarify with the mod?

 

Her exact words were "Your view failed". I have asked her if it means I was roleblocked. Waiting for her response.

[dapianoplay3r]

For the record I can still shoot

[dicetosser1]

for the record cindy I am town.

 

I stillwanna hear from Len and i need to check the infirmary post cause i thought we  couldnt talk  not that those in the infirmary could not use NAs

[dicetosser1]

hmm ok i missed that bit of talyas post

[csarmi]

 

Is there a way to figure out why you failed?

 

Does it sound like you got roleblocked? Does it sound like your action doesn't work on me? Did you clarify with the mod?

 

Her exact words were "Your view failed". I have asked her if it means I was roleblocked. Waiting for her response.

 

Are you the one who gets "clean/not clean" or the one who gets "symbiote / no symbiote" as result?

[csarmi]

Told you I wouldn't shoot

 

If you lynch me you basically give the mafia a way to kill me

I Indefinably have that 50% lynchproof so I may not die again. But whatever, I dunno what else I can say at this point

Dap, the 50% lynchproof is total BS. I think I explained why.

 

Would you buy it yourself? Please tell me how it makes sense.

[dapianoplay3r]

 

Told you I wouldn't shoot

 

If you lynch me you basically give the mafia a way to kill me

I Indefinably have that 50% lynchproof so I may not die again. But whatever, I dunno what else I can say at this point

Dap, the 50% lynchproof is total BS. I think I explained why.

 

Would you buy it yourself? Please tell me how it makes sense.

 

I didnt

When I got the PM I assumed it was only a one time so I asked about it. Apparently its indefinite

[csarmi]

That's not a mechanic I would buy.

 

You're supposed to have an über-powerful role that may or may not die based on how a coin is flipped? That's simply unbalanced no matter how I look at it.

[dapianoplay3r]

That's not a mechanic I would buy.

 

You're supposed to have an über-powerful role that may or may not die based on how a coin is flipped? That's simply unbalanced no matter how I look at it.

I assume im to balance a mafia role or the SK

Shes had this checked so it must be balanced to a degree

[鲍勃不是我的名字]

 

 

VOTE COUNT:

 

............Tina, Hally, Dice and Lenlo are injured in the blast and taken to the infirmary. They cannot speak on the thread until the beginning of Day 4 and have lost any night actions they may have. 

 

..............

no deaths and an alleged RB or what?

ah dice, i'm always forgetting you. sneaky quiet dangerous dice.

 

lol, we may have had 3 maf tied up all night, with only one or two actions to choose...

 

 

My take:

 

Lynch from the four.  Looks like one of them is the triggerman and their incapacity prevented a kill.  I'd start with Lenlo and then Dice.  

 

Still not sure about Dap.  Cannot have that much juice and be scum.  SK is possible but would prefer the scum to deal with him.

[Mrs. Cindy Gill]

i think len is the way to go of those. we have his claim and we can decide if we buy it or not. i don't buy it.

 

other possibility is they tried to kill and got blocked.

 

i agree dap may not be worth the lynch attempt today.

 

anyone else have an opinion there?

[Darthe]

I am concerned that we may not have many more opportunities.  We could still mislynch today thanks to no NK but tomorrow... We are going to have issues.

 

Len or Laya, those are the big reward targets.  Between the two Laya's story is ridiculous in its own way and a lot of his play hasn't made sense.  What concerns me most is that newbies in the position of a real cop that can't convince town he is real should be pretty frustrated by this point and I haven't seen that from him.

 

Len on the other hand.. Most of what he has going for him is the fact that Laya's tale doesn't fit rather than his own play.  Clean vs not clean is not a point against him imo, too wild and risky for traditional mafia plays, but it is also a hard pill to swallow on top of everything else he has done (or failed to do).  Idk, he has a claim that strikes me as "so strange that it can't be fake" but that mentality leads to WIFOM and WIFOM is the path to the dark side.

 

I also think that considering that Laya claimed a viewing on you its pretty scummy looking how biased you are toward believing him.  Not illogical, but of course it wouldn't be.  I see Laya as a two-fer if we nail scum with his flip.

 

Lastly, the nature of these descriptions still indicates to me that they are looking at different things, much like the rest of us.  I really had hopes that Laya would view Turin or the like last night and say "yes this person had a symbiote".  It does not have to indicate that the person is town or not, meaning that he could be a nontraditional cop.  That fits with the investigative PR theme  idea.  

 

 

TL;DR, I am effing confused and frustrated by this game.  I don't think I would lynch either of them until we could get a bit more breathing room or have no choice.  

 

Also, alternative explanation to the lack of NK: We have a doc.

 

The doc has to know that mafia is going to be targeting one of four people.  Same for SK.  If Doc is protecting one each night then its plausible that with so limited a pool they could really have managed to stave off this many kills.  

 

Considering how close we are to losing this I am asking for a doc reveal.  Just to limit the player pool a bit.  We can discuss this first etc but it makes the most sense to me at this point.

[Darthe]

 

 

 

VOTE COUNT:

 

............Tina, Hally, Dice and Lenlo are injured in the blast and taken to the infirmary. They cannot speak on the thread until the beginning of Day 4 and have lost any night actions they may have. 

 

..............

no deaths and an alleged RB or what?

ah dice, i'm always forgetting you. sneaky quiet dangerous dice.

 

lol, we may have had 3 maf tied up all night, with only one or two actions to choose...

 

 

My take:

 

Lynch from the four.  Looks like one of them is the triggerman and their incapacity prevented a kill.  I'd start with Lenlo and then Dice.  

 

Still not sure about Dap.  Cannot have that much juice and be scum.  SK is possible but would prefer the scum to deal with him.

 

 

I find this scummy.  Only the last sentence.  Scum wouldn't want to deal with SK.  They could sit back and let themselves get into a 3-1-1 situation etc and then lynch the dude when it's auto win for them.  If we are going to handle Dap we need to actually do it, but I don't think now is the time.  Spending time we don't have on him could cripple us here.

[Pralaya]

Lastly, the nature of these descriptions still indicates to me that they are looking at different things, much like the rest of us.  I really had hopes that Laya would view Turin or the like last night and say "yes this person had a symbiote".  It does not have to indicate that the person is town or not, meaning that he could be a nontraditional cop.  That fits with the investigative PR theme  idea.  

 

 

 

Why would I view Turin when he himself admitted he has a symbiote? If he doesn't have a symbiote, what would be the point of lying and admitting that he has a symbiote? It would have been a waste of view.

[鲍勃不是我的名字]

I am concerned that we may not have many more opportunities.  We could still mislynch today thanks to no NK but tomorrow... We are going to have issues.

 

Len or Laya, those are the big reward targets.  Between the two Laya's story is ridiculous in its own way and a lot of his play hasn't made sense.  What concerns me most is that newbies in the position of a real cop that can't convince town he is real should be pretty frustrated by this point and I haven't seen that from him.

 

Len on the other hand.. Most of what he has going for him is the fact that Laya's tale doesn't fit rather than his own play.  Clean vs not clean is not a point against him imo, too wild and risky for traditional mafia plays, but it is also a hard pill to swallow on top of everything else he has done (or failed to do).  Idk, he has a claim that strikes me as "so strange that it can't be fake" but that mentality leads to WIFOM and WIFOM is the path to the dark side.

 

I also think that considering that Laya claimed a viewing on you its pretty scummy looking how biased you are toward believing him.  Not illogical, but of course it wouldn't be.  I see Laya as a two-fer if we nail scum with his flip.

 

Lastly, the nature of these descriptions still indicates to me that they are looking at different things, much like the rest of us.  I really had hopes that Laya would view Turin or the like last night and say "yes this person had a symbiote".  It does not have to indicate that the person is town or not, meaning that he could be a nontraditional cop.  That fits with the investigative PR theme  idea.  

 

 

TL;DR, I am effing confused and frustrated by this game.  I don't think I would lynch either of them until we could get a bit more breathing room or have no choice.  

 

Also, alternative explanation to the lack of NK: We have a doc.

 

The doc has to know that mafia is going to be targeting one of four people.  Same for SK.  If Doc is protecting one each night then its plausible that with so limited a pool they could really have managed to stave off this many kills.  

 

Considering how close we are to losing this I am asking for a doc reveal.  Just to limit the player pool a bit.  We can discuss this first etc but it makes the most sense to me at this point.

 

This post is gross.  I could lynch this guy too.  

 

1.  Plays confused townie.  Haven't seen him play this card when town.

2.  Throwing out crazy theory about Doc "stave off this many kills".  Rolefish much?  We had three night kills on Night 2 and zero last night.  So did the Doc miraculously save three last night? 

[Pralaya]

Considering how close we are to losing this I am asking for a doc reveal.  Just to limit the player pool a bit.  We can discuss this first etc but it makes the most sense to me at this point.

 

Now this is outright scummy. The theory by Csarmi about Darthe janitoring Wombat and claiming his role is seeming more likely now.

[Mrs. Cindy Gill]

i think it would be the smartest best, best odds, to lynch from those who were tied up last night.

 

i'm not sure what you mean, darthe, by my being biased to believe prayberf, if that was at me.

 

i really don't believe either his or len's claim. i think i made that pretty clear so maybe i've misunderstood your post.

 

i still think hally is town, and between the other 3 who couldn't sct last night, i don't see much of a dif.

 

if we can't agree on len, what do you think about dice or tina?

[Lenlo]

if we can't agree on len, what do you think about dice or tina?

If were not doing Pral I would be fine with Dice or Tina. Would prefer Dice though as he was one of those silenced and everything the night before and still claims to have missed that post by Talya.

[Niniel]

Hally wont't have anything either. She was in the infirmary.

 

So, yeah. Back to where exactly we were yesterday. I am good with this too. Whether dap is scum or sk, he is not town.

 

vote dap

 

Right. I forgot. So we have no information at all from Hally, Darthe, Len or Pralaya. 

[Niniel]

Cindy could be right or we had a good rb or doc. Hard to know. I´ll leave my vote on Dap, who I think should go, but I´m open to other suggestions. 

[Mrs. Cindy Gill]

tina, you and dice both read the posts well enough to know you were silenced but not well enough to know you were all immobilized?

 

that's a bit odd.

 

and darthe... i don't think i've ever seen you not scumhunt this hard, either. where's the D1 post nailing scum? or d2-3?

 

or you, dap... no cases? no defense after the hard offense?

 

 

and prayberf... that was my theory first, though i threw it out as mad conspiracy talk and len agreed it was area 51 level.

 

still, mad or not, it's mine.

[Hallia]

 

 

VOTE COUNT:

 

............Tina, Hally, Dice and Lenlo are injured in the blast and taken to the infirmary. They cannot speak on the thread until the beginning of Day 4 and have lost any night actions they may have. 

 

..............

no deaths and an alleged RB or what?

ah dice, i'm always forgetting you. sneaky quiet dangerous dice.

 

lol, we may have had 3 maf tied up all night, with only one or two actions to choose...

 

 

 

Wait, so why wouldn't we get info from Pral?  He wasn't injured.  I wonder, if all four of those injured were townsfolk.

[Mrs. Cindy Gill]

we might not get info from pray bc he was rbed, or because csarmi had some kind of cover, or because pray may be lying.

 

there are probably many other possibilities.

 

it's possible everyone locked up was town, but as we made it through the night with no deaths it's possible the trigger was locked up.

 

and it's also possible that scum tried to hit one of the ppl in the infirmary and got a failed NA

 

or that scum tried to hit someone who was otherwise protected

 

i think most likely scenario is that the tigger was immobilized cause we haven't been making any great plays this game so why would we start now.

[Lenlo]

 

i think most likely scenario is that the tigger was immobilized cause we haven't been making any great plays this game so why would we start now.

Haha, gotta love a cynics logic. 

[Talya]

VOTE COUNT:

 

Pral (1): Lenlo

Dap (3): Tina, Pral, cindy