August 9, 2013: CONCLUDED

[Darthe]

MOD ANNOUNCEMENT:

A player has asked the following question:

 

"What is to stop a PR such as a Cop etc from revealing their info in another thread if they die in the thread that they are cop in?"

 

The answer is that once you are dead in a thread you are dead and no longer party to the information that you had when you were living.  Thus, that player revealing that would be no different from someone dead in all three threads revealing information that they know.  Additionally, since alignments are variable, it will not help you hunt in other threads.

 

This will be posted in all threads and the Information thread for your convenience.  Thank you.

[csarmi]

[...] 

To the first: When I wrote that I was thinking about Nolder posting the three quotes from Salami in all threads, which I thought would become overkill because everyone reads all three threads anyway.

 

To the second: Csarmi didn't copy paste his posts. He voted for three different people using the exact same reasoning.

Actually, I did copy paste my post. Every single word is the same except for the names.

If you didn't get that then why try to build an argument around it.

If you did then you're lying.

[hazelkrs1]

Checking in real quick. Drunk and no thoughts. Back to work tomorrow, will cagchuo then.

[dapianoplay3r]

A man after my own heart

[Pralaya]

I hate gambling. 

 

*rolls dice on who to vote*

 

surprise, surprise

[Nolder]

 

 

So don't play roulette, but especially don't p,lay it in Vegas.

Play Pai Gow.

 

 

 

Yeah great game. House takes some of your money or all of your money every hand.  LOL  Play craps, only game in the shed that the odds mildly favor the player.

 

Don't play commission then. I mean yeah if you're playing commission they will take some of your money regardless because they play the hands for you but if you play your own hand the house is not guaranteed to take your money.

 

Craps is ok but I only like it when I'm around people I know since people get kind of crazy at a craps table.

 

Honestly best thing to do is just sit at the bar and play video poker or keno and get drunk.

[csarmi]

Okay, I'm sick of explaining this. Busy anyway, you guys go ahead and mess up the game however you want to.

 

I'm a vanilla town here.

[The Crusher]

Checking in real quick. Drunk and no thoughts. Back to work tomorrow, will cagchuo then.

 

 

 

 

So don't play roulette, but especially don't p,lay it in Vegas.

Play Pai Gow.

 

 

 

Yeah great game. House takes some of your money or all of your money every hand.  LOL  Play craps, only game in the shed that the odds mildly favor the player.

 

Don't play commission then. I mean yeah if you're playing commission they will take some of your money regardless because they play the hands for you but if you play your own hand the house is not guaranteed to take your money.

 

Craps is ok but I only like it when I'm around people I know since people get kind of crazy at a craps table.

 

Honestly best thing to do is just sit at the bar and play video poker or keno and get drunk.

 

 

 

Hard to argue that.  This thread is moving slow.  @ Csarmi..  Pretty sure this game was going to be a fuster cluck from it's inception. 

[Tiinker]

I went to a poker event with all these rich white people. I was doing what I could to keep hold of my chips and play safely while they didn't GAF and played their hands randomly depending on whether or not they were drunk enough. The drunkest man at the table won the game. 

[Tiinker]

I could almost vote Csarmi right now just to push him over the brink so he throws his computer out the window.

[csarmi]

Full claim: Chandler Rose, I'm uninspired (in other words, I suck) - vanilla town

[csarmi]

I could almost vote Csarmi right now just to push him over the brink so he throws his computer out the window.

That'd be fun, I do hate my work. I wonder what they'd say.

[Leelou]

UNOFFICIAL VOTE COUNT 3:

Verb (1/12): Salami
Krak (1/12): Tink
Salami (8/12): Nol, Yates, Verb, Leelou, Razen, Cloud, Peace, Dap
Hally (1/12): Krak
Nol (1/12): BG

Yates (1/12): Crush

Not Voting (10/23):
Chuckles, Mish, Hally, Ishy, Len, Des, Tina, Ree, Pral, Sera

[Razen]

Cloud said something interesting in the 1603 thread, that got me a little bit curious. 

 

I don't think that a scum team would bus their teammate this early. It would be a big sacrifice and I think they will just try to break it down instead.

 

That got me to thinking about the whole staggering the lynches argument presented by BG here:

 

Ok I'll put it this way. We stagger the lynch, heck doesn't matter which thread to me, so I arbitrarily chose this one.

 

What I think is interesting is that BG proposes to lynch him LAST in this thread.  Normally, you'd see people saying that Csarmi's scummiest in thread A, or thread B, or whatever thread they think and that he should be lynched first in that that thread.  But BG says he arbitrarily chose this one to let Csarmi live.  I'd like to know the definition of arbitrarily he used, because to me, this looks like he's trying to deflect attention from him in this thread by making it conditional on how he flips in other threads to determine whether he gets lynched here or not.  Because that's what staggering the lynch is.

[Tiinker]

If salami goes bad we'll eat BG next.

[Nolder]

Arbitrary does not necessarily mean random.

[serra]

Finally going through this one with a bit of detail. Stand by.

[Tiinker]

Arbitrary does not necessarily mean random.

Does it matter? He still chose this one.

[Nolder]

 

Arbitrary does not necessarily mean random.

Does it matter? He still chose this one.

 

Well it matters if he tried to pass it off as random. Which is what I think he may have been trying to do when he said he chose arbitrarily.

[Darthe]

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT 3:

Verb (1/12): Salami
Krak (1/12): Tink
Salami (8/12): Nol, Yates, Verb, Leelou, Razen, Cloud, Peace, Dap
Hally (1/12): Krak
Nol (1/12): BG

Yates (1/12): Crush

Not Voting (10/23):
Chuckles, Mish, Hally, Ishy, Len, Des, Tina, Ree, Pral, Sera 

[serra]

Cloud's confusion about games reads genuine. He's probably not scum here. I disagree with his assessment that cross-thread stuff is spam though.

 

I disagree with the votes on Yates. His RVS is pretty standard.

 

I can agree with the theory that Nolder is scum in one of the three threads as well. I don't think it's this one though.

 

Bg wanting to let Csarmi live here is very dodge. I would say they're either scum here together, or bg is scum in at least 1 if not both of the others.

 

Lenlo is town for questioning Yates also repeating the same post across the 3 threads and encouraging crossreferencing the games.

 

Ishy is wrong about Nolder overanalysing stuff, but his carefree attitude also reads town.

 

Peace misreps Ishy pretty badly by impying Ishy wants Nolder to stop posting. Also, peace wanting to start lynching Csarmi in this thread strikes me as a bit off. I think we might have Peace-scum wanting to get Csarmi-town lynched here before we hit Csarmi scum in 1 and/or 2.

 

dap's post on bg is townie and valid. bg-scum is looking like a serious option, perhaps even without Csarmi-scum.

 

Razen also makes a good point on bg, about his use of "arbitrary",

[Niniel]

 

I have no idea why we are playing three games to vote the same person.

 

vote masteryates

Glad somebody else gets it.

 

 

+1

 

 

I will need to go through the games again and take notes. I will not be able to handle this otherwise. I have no idead who is playing differently in the games etc. 

[Tiinker]

 

 

Arbitrary does not necessarily mean random.

Does it matter? He still chose this one.

 

Well it matters if he tried to pass it off as random. Which is what I think he may have been trying to do when he said he chose arbitrarily.

 

So you're on my side? Good.

[Krakalakachkn]

 

[...] 

To the first: When I wrote that I was thinking about Nolder posting the three quotes from Salami in all threads, which I thought would become overkill because everyone reads all three threads anyway.

 

To the second: Csarmi didn't copy paste his posts. He voted for three different people using the exact same reasoning.

Actually, I did copy paste my post. Every single word is the same except for the names.

If you didn't get that then why try to build an argument around it.

If you did then you're lying.

 

 

 

I was wondering why Cloud would make an argument like this when it was pretty obvious that CSarmi copied and pasted.  Why bother to make that statement at all?

 

 

 

 

 

 

I think the mistake you're all making is considering all three threads to be interconnected in some way. Other than theme, they're not.

I think the mistake YOU are making is NOT considering all three threads are interconnected via "Live Meta."

 

Think about it.  Three wagons to look at.  If BG is voting for Salami in 2 games but not the third, why is that?  What would it mean for BG if Salami flips scum in that ONE game?  He was down for the plan in the first two, why not the third?  See what I'm saying?

 

This is the last time I'm going to explain this.  Please bookmark for future reference.

I've seen this explanation. And summarily rejected it. If BG is voting Salami in two games and not the third, I just attribute it to Salami playing scummy in two and not the third. Simple.

 

I'd agree with you if it weren't for the fact that Csarmi tried to create a meta across all three games. As I said he bridged them.

He made himself the same player in each of the three games. Therefore he's playing all three games at once so to speak, not each one individually.

Meaning, for the moment, we have to do the same. And we are.

 

 

Ishy is clearly trying to make the point that we should take these all on a thread by thread basis (he stated as much).  This ignores the entire point of this game in my opinion.  Cross-analyzing is going to be hard, sure, but if a case can be made across two or three threads, then that's very valuable.  

 

I also can't help but notice that Ishy and BG are essentially arguing pretty hard for the same thing.  Ishy is coming across like someone who makes an argument that they know isn't true, and then when called out on it gets angry and puts their back up.  

[Nolder]

 

 

 

Arbitrary does not necessarily mean random.

Does it matter? He still chose this one.

 

Well it matters if he tried to pass it off as random. Which is what I think he may have been trying to do when he said he chose arbitrarily.

 

So you're on my side? Good.

 

We are on the same side of the discussion yes.