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[king of nowhere]

I'm concerned about the lack of news about season 4. if they want to air a season before greenlighting the next one, they won't be able to launch more than one season every 2 years. which is way too slow

[Elder_Haman]

31 minutes ago, king of nowhere said:

I'm concerned about the lack of news about season 4. if they want to air a season before greenlighting the next one, they won't be able to launch more than one season every 2 years. which is way too slow

Yeah. Hoping to have some S4 news soon. 

[Kaleb]

Brandon Sanderson tried (very hard) to change one character arc on the Wheel of Time show

 

"Sorry about Perrin on the show," he told the massive crowd of people, "It's not my fault. I tried. Oh, how I tried..."

 

"There are certain things," said the Stormlight Archives scribe, "Certain forces moving. You know that Jeff Bezos, at one point, said, 'I want Game of Thrones, buy it for me.' And they were like, 'You can't have Game of Thrones,’ and he was like, 'Buy me something that is my Game of Thrones' And there are certain forces at work."

Apparently, those 'forces' made choices about the character of Perrin Aybara ("my boy Perrin," Sanderson calls him), that Sanderson didn't agree with. So when he found out about the show's intentions, Sanderson came up with an idea of his own and brought it to showrunner Rafe Judkins.

"Rafe really went to bat for me," Sanderson says. "I presented a completely different thing to do with Perrin that would still get what they wanted. Minor spoilers for the television show’s first episode - but instead of the first big event that happens, [my idea was] what if he wounds Master Luhhan? He's worried about the rage inside of him - you can get all the same beats without doing the thing that you did, and then he also won't be traumatized for the entire first season. And he can actually go on fun adventures with friends."

But despite all of Sanderson's credibility with the Wheel of Time series (not to mention the fantasy genre as a whole) and the fact that the showrunner was on his side, his idea was scrapped. "They took it all the way to the higher-ups and fought for my version of it," Sanderson told the crowd, "and they said no."

[Samt]

1 hour ago, Kaleb said:

Brandon Sanderson tried (very hard) to change one character arc on the Wheel of Time show

 

"Sorry about Perrin on the show," he told the massive crowd of people, "It's not my fault. I tried. Oh, how I tried..."

 

"There are certain things," said the Stormlight Archives scribe, "Certain forces moving. You know that Jeff Bezos, at one point, said, 'I want Game of Thrones, buy it for me.' And they were like, 'You can't have Game of Thrones,’ and he was like, 'Buy me something that is my Game of Thrones' And there are certain forces at work."

Apparently, those 'forces' made choices about the character of Perrin Aybara ("my boy Perrin," Sanderson calls him), that Sanderson didn't agree with. So when he found out about the show's intentions, Sanderson came up with an idea of his own and brought it to showrunner Rafe Judkins.

"Rafe really went to bat for me," Sanderson says. "I presented a completely different thing to do with Perrin that would still get what they wanted. Minor spoilers for the television show’s first episode - but instead of the first big event that happens, [my idea was] what if he wounds Master Luhhan? He's worried about the rage inside of him - you can get all the same beats without doing the thing that you did, and then he also won't be traumatized for the entire first season. And he can actually go on fun adventures with friends."

But despite all of Sanderson's credibility with the Wheel of Time series (not to mention the fantasy genre as a whole) and the fact that the showrunner was on his side, his idea was scrapped. "They took it all the way to the higher-ups and fought for my version of it," Sanderson told the crowd, "and they said no."

This is quite interesting.  It's not the first time that I heard Sanderson talk about his misgivings about the fridging, but I hadn't realized the extent to which he is implying that major creative choices are being made at a level far above Rafe.  Someone with a lot of power wants the story to be different.  

[Skipp]

On 4/29/2024 at 7:35 AM, king of nowhere said:

I'm concerned about the lack of news about season 4. if they want to air a season before greenlighting the next one, they won't be able to launch more than one season every 2 years. which is way too slow

If they follow their previous patterns we might hear about Season 4 in June/July.  At least according to the people on twitter who track these types of things.

[Mirefox]

On 4/30/2024 at 11:29 AM, Samt said:

This is quite interesting.  It's not the first time that I heard Sanderson talk about his misgivings about the fridging, but I hadn't realized the extent to which he is implying that major creative choices are being made at a level far above Rafe.  Someone with a lot of power wants the story to be different.  

I don’t know if they want the story to be different; what they want is the tone to be different.  WoT trying to ride the GoT coattails was a bad idea from the start and has turned off most of the book readers.  I don’t know if they care about the story enough to want it to be different as long as they are tapping in to the grim dark tone.

[books of Robert Jordan]

https://www.wotseries.com/2024/06/02/wheel-of-time-spent-over-260-million-first-two-seasons/

[Kaleb]

 

Seems like spring 2025 release for Season 3 is looking more likely!

[Samt]

1 hour ago, Kaleb said:

 

Seems like spring 2025 release for Season 3 is looking more likely!

I was thinking I might be curious about season 3 and then about halfway through I was reminded why the show is irredeemable.  No Callandor.  No Tairen doors for Matt.  It's so far offtrack that any attempt to bring it back on track would just push it further off track.  

[Jaccsen]

2 hours ago, Samt said:

I was thinking I might be curious about season 3 and then about halfway through I was reminded why the show is irredeemable.  No Callandor.  No Tairen doors for Matt.  It's so far offtrack that any attempt to bring it back on track would just push it further off track.  

They cannot recover at this point.

[Skipp]

16 hours ago, Samt said:

I was thinking I might be curious about season 3 and then about halfway through I was reminded why the show is irredeemable.  No Callandor.  No Tairen doors for Matt.  It's so far offtrack that any attempt to bring it back on track would just push it further off track.  

While Callandor is unlikely to show up this season there is not a lot reason it needs to be introduced early. 

 

Not sure what they are going to do with Mat but it is not out of the realm of possibility to still have him enter the Twisted doorway.  Nothing requires that to be found in Tear.

[Samt]

2 hours ago, Skipp said:

While Callandor is unlikely to show up this season there is not a lot reason it needs to be introduced early. 

 

Not sure what they are going to do with Mat but it is not out of the realm of possibility to still have him enter the Twisted doorway.  Nothing requires that to be found in Tear.

Callandor the object is not important early.  Callandor the plot device that changes Rand from passenger to driver is critical and its absence leaves Rand a passenger in his own story.  

 

In regards to Mat, I just intend to believe people when they tell me who they are.  If I had faith that the creators understood Mat's arc and thought it was important, I could believe you that they might still do it justice.  

[Sabio]

With an 8 episode series and so much they need to cover if this season will combine book 3 and 4.  I just don't think there is a lot of time to introduce doorways etc.  Sadly a lot will need to be cut to fit into eight hours,  They made Mat a hero of the horn plus dagger exposure could easily be used to explain his memories.  Honestly is Tear even needed?

[Ralph]

https://www.wotseries.com/2024/11/24/wheeloftime-ccxp24-panel-announcement/#

[Jaccsen]

15 hours ago, Sabio said:

With an 8 episode series and so much they need to cover if this season will combine book 3 and 4.  I just don't think there is a lot of time to introduce doorways etc.  Sadly a lot will need to be cut to fit into eight hours,  They made Mat a hero of the horn plus dagger exposure could easily be used to explain his memories.  Honestly is Tear even needed?

I am sure they will write a metric load of content that never appeared in the books and focus on side characters etc. They have plenty of runtime to hit some major areas but you can see from seasons 1 and 2 that they will add a lot of their vision and filler.

[DigificWriter]

Season 3 will primarily contain material adapted from Book 4 of the series, although material from earlier books will be included as well.

 

This has been known for a year or more.

[Elder_Haman]

17 hours ago, Sabio said:

With an 8 episode series and so much they need to cover if this season will combine book 3 and 4.  I just don't think there is a lot of time to introduce doorways etc.  Sadly a lot will need to be cut to fit into eight hours,  They made Mat a hero of the horn plus dagger exposure could easily be used to explain his memories.  Honestly is Tear even needed?

They could probably place Callandor in Rhuidean and kill two birds with one stone. I do think that we will get some version of the twisted door/the Finn. 

[Kaleb]

Season 3 poster out today! Rafe said he will announce the release date at the event in Brazil this weekend. The poster shows Rand carrying Moiraine in the Aiel Waste, presumably outside Rhuidean, you can see her Aes Sedai ring and the dragons on his wrists. I'm stoked, finishing up Crossroads Of Twilight on a re-read right now.

[Skipp]

Exciting!  I have not been a fan of their past season posters and while I would judge this one better it is still kind of bland.  Nonetheless this makes me really excited for the upcoming season.  I appreciate seeing, what appears to be, a dragon on Rand's forearm,

 

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I think we are losing Moiraine this season! ack

 

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[Elder_Haman]

58 minutes ago, Skipp said:

Exciting!  I have not been a fan of their past season posters and while I would judge this one better it is still kind of bland.  Nonetheless this makes me really excited for the upcoming season.  I appreciate seeing, what appears to be, a dragon on Rand's forearm,

 

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I think we are losing Moiraine this season! ack

 

There’s a new marketing team. I hope they step it up, because the marketing for this show has been an utter disaster. 

[Guire]

What's deal with lances sticking out of sand?  Aiel use Zulu type short spears. If Rand is returning with Moraine instead of Mat then maybe Mat does not go to Rhudiean? 

[Figs and Mice]

She is also fully clothed so they are certainly introducing some "variations" from the books...what a surprise 🙂

 

I am holding out some hopes for Mat and the Finn. But fearing the worst...

[Guire]

3 hours ago, Figs and Mice said:

She is also fully clothed so they are certainly introducing some "variations" from the books...what a surprise 🙂

 

I am holding out some hopes for Mat and the Finn. But fearing the worst...

I assumed Rand will have to strip off and we will get a slo mo Bo Derek run into the fog.  It will prove his dragons were given in Rhudiean.

[Skipp]

The length of the spears could be a marketing goof as we have already seen the size of Aiel spears in season 2.

 

I propose the theory that these are ceremonial spears that potential clan chiefs leave outside of Ruidean which they collect them when they leave.  These would be the spears that were not collected.

[DojoToad]

Something bothers me about Rand's head, maybe the way he is leaning into Moiraine...

 

Other than that, I like the image.