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  1. have you seen that now a new AI can build a short video from a prompt? have faith, in 20-30 years probably you can copy-paste the books as prompt and the AI will build the adaptation. without any issue on budget, meddling executives, covid pauses, or any of that stuff
  2. probably, human artists will become obsolete. no offence. i am a teacher, and i expect AI to become capable of doing my job better than me in my lifetime. maybe we'll finally be able to relax?
  3. You know, it would actually be the option tied to modern sensibilities. Dump the psycotic violent girl, get the saner one. Have faile being dragged away by the police for assaulting berelain with a knife, that's pretty serious business, our modern society frowns heavily on attempted murder of a love rival. It would not even be a bigger change than some they made already. But no, they are not going to do that. I doubt viewers will accept it. They will make faile less crazy and more relatable, like they did for the other girls
  4. is that still the case? sex has sold for a long time, but i would think that in a time where you have several million full lenght porn vids completely for free - just as an attempt to entice people into getting a premium subscription to see millions more - nobody should be reduced to watch a tv show because of nudity.
  5. i do like that they made the characters a bit more mature, because really, in the first books they could get really annoying. i disagree with the general tone shift, there is a clear striving to make the show darker whenever possible. however, it does not particularly bother me. there are several things i disliked about the show, but none of them is related to adaptational faithfulness. and I still liked the show overall.
  6. This thread is for news and articles. If you want a detailed discussion on rand's arc, you should make another thread for it
  7. Yes, obviously lan is too manly to pee. Do we ever see him peeing in the books? No, then it's canon, lan does not need to pee. Probably when he needs to relieve itself he slices out his bladder with his sword, empties it, and sew it back every time. He does the same with his intestines whenever he needs to take a dump, except he has a servant handling his guts because he's too badass to handle sh#t in any way
  8. I posted somewhere a mathematical analysis to conclude that not only nobody on the writing table but rafe has read the books, but that it is not reasonable to expect otherwise - as there's probably not enough screeenwriters familiar with the book in the whole world. As for expecting them to "actually bother to read the books", you talk about that as if it was a small simple thing, like reading an information pamphlet. It's not, it's 4 million words. it takes months to read the thing. and once you read it once, congratulations, you're nowhere near an expert in those books. you need multiple readings to "familiarize" with a lore that big. and I am pretty sure that even if you could put in a contractual obligation that the screenwriters read the books multiple time, then the final result would indeed be a writing room that positively hates those books. I contest your argument that "it's bad becase they deviated from the source material". The witcher story is nothing special, if I didn't love the characters I would have put it down well before the end. I must point out that some of the best parts in the wot tv show are not those that adhere to the books exactly, but those that deviate from them - or at least that expand on the lore by showing what was quickly described. the logain scenes were not in the books, yet were among the best. the forsaken scenes were mostly not in the books, but they were fantastic. the third part of nynaeve's accepted test was better than the book version specifically because it took the theme of the book and improved on it. I am not familiar with many adaptations, but even in Dune, which is overall pretty faithful to the book, they changed the final scene of lyet-kynes, and it was better than its book counterpart. The idea that adaptations are good if they stick to the source material and bad if they depart from it is completely unfounded. Sure, a lot of adaptations that deviated heavily from the original turned out lackuster, but that's because they were poorly written, not because they deviated from the original. I understand love for the original materials, but books are not holy objects.
  9. i liked one piece a lot, but the action sequences had a fake/staged feeling to them. it works for the anime, because it's the kind of story you don't take 100% seriously. not so much for wheel of time. the aviendha sequence was a lot better than anything in one piece. the lan vs myrdraal would have been, except that the fades conveniently stopped attacking and took their time looming ominously whenever lan was down.
  10. one piece follows exactly 2 story lines: the main protagonists, and coby+garp. you can't really draw comparisons on that
  11. rakens and other seanchan special animals have nothing to do with shadowspawn, but a lot of randlanders who never saw them mistook them for shadowspawn. so it would be possible for an aes sedai to mistake them for some new shadowspawn, jump to the conclusion that the seanchan using them are darkfriends, and use the power over that misunderstanding. it would have been by far the most acceptable option. but since they removed all those beasts from the show (so far, i really hope they include the rakens, they are an important part of seanchan military), this possible save isn't available
  12. The third oath says you can use the power to harm "in the last extreme in defence of your life", or "against darkfriends". Moiraine could definitely defend herself against the soldiers on the beach (conveniently placed to give lan something to do). I can see a loophole there maybe, in that the oath does not specify you have to channel against those attacking you. Not a great argument, as the oath specifies "in defense of your life" and sinking distant ships was not in self-defence, those ships were not paying her any attention, she was even too far to be seen. Second condition of the oath, shadowspawn and darkfriends. By the way, the wording we are given do not mention any of that, but many aes sedai in the books speak of those exceptions. Well, seanchan are not shadowspawn, especially without rakens. Darkfriends? Suroth is, but the damane certainly are not. However, moiraine has no idea who those people on boats are. She does not know suroth. She only heard vague tales of invaders in the west. Can she strike if she does not know if one is darkfriend? If she could, she could reasonably strike anyone. Can she strike on a reasonable suspicion? Can she strike a whole boat full of people because one is a darkfriends, and the others are collateral? Maybe. Not convincing, but maybe. So, there are arguments there to be made, but they are very tenuous at best. In the books, any interpretation of the oaths was more solid than that. I still consider the whole thing a plot hole
  13. Creating an explosion big enough to open a hole in a ship doesn't take much. Channelers regularly blow up things bigger than a plank of wood. My main objection to that scene is that moiraine was not in danger from the ship and should not have been able of using the power as a weapon, at all. My second main objection is that the damane on board should have seen the flow of incoming fire and stopped it. But as far as having the power to blow some holes in wooden ships? No issues there. Also consider, in the book egwene - which was not stronger than moiraine at that point - was asked to blow up a tree at distance. Blowing up a whole tree is harder than punching through a single plank
  14. That was a good decision. Would you respect rand if he applied his own laws for the common people but made exceptions for those he likes? As a ruler, rand must not play favourites
  15. I have a hard time to understand either, but I can understand one important related fact: having good intentions does not make you right, it does not guarantee you will not make mistakes or take stupid decisions. Rand never had to take morally difficult decisions in his life until he became the dragon. he's completely unprepared for the necessity to choose lesser evils all the time. I think in our western world most of us is at least somewhat aquainted with the notion, since we are all called to vote in politics and choose between many unsavory options; rand is even more unprepared than that. and so tries to draw some lines that he will not cross. and it's quite the wrong thing to do, and the lines he draws are really dumb anyway. but it was a honest best attempt at a sheepherder turned politician to keep some integrity.
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