imagine if Perrin left Faile and took up a relationship with an obviously more politically savy Berelain....imagine if he put duty above what is basically, a teenage crush.... imagine if he developed as a man and fell for the more experienced and travelled woman, and let the younger Faile be free and find herself.... i have major issues with the Perrin/Faile relationship.....i know Jordan wasnt great at romance...but these two are headed for serious relationship problems, i mean, she flat out refuses to acknowledge his culture when it comes to 'courting'...shes an eejit....

while we're on the subject....Faile could be cut just as easily (i know she has been cast)....a ( very young) wife that demands to be dominated and only respects her man when hes being assertive?....yeah, that wont be problematic in 2024...

i actually like the show....i love the books...i like the show.... its a bit hard if your trying to expand the audience to make a like for like WOT and expect great numbers in 2023... that said...they could have been a lot truer to the books and just tweaked it a bit around the more 'dated' parts and still ended up with a blockbuster

embarrassed to say this as it pretty much dumbs down my wheel of time experience.... but every so often, i cant help but see Caddy as the granny in the tweety bird cartoon.....pops in at the most inoputune times...like at Malden.. sorry if ive ruined anything for anybody going forward....

i almost envy you. imagine getting the read this epic for the first time 'again'.... its one of those questions isnt it....like hearing the beatles for the first time, and knowing the hype....

i re read the series 'every couple of years'... takes me around a year to get through the 14 books. i do have to say...once i start the 're read', im not one to have other books going. once i start, its WOT or nothing. i have never done it, but i read someone on here went through the whole books just reading one characters arc (say, Rand) which i thought would be good. when i finished my last complete re read, i went back to when Mat 'captured' Tuon....as i love the whole courting of them two....and read (only)Mat through to the end of book 13....its actually not that easy to do

havent got a lot to offer here, but yeah, shes one of my favorite characters as the books slowed down shes front and centre i love the books, i flit in and out of alot of stories....currently enjoying the travelling show/Tuon/Mat arc .... not sure if anyone here realises but she has ample bossom...not that mat would look

and..........its only just warming up.....

to be fair, you could also frame this a brilliant framing from the showrunners....even though i can see you are not in the mood to concede such ground. Rands grip on authority was ever so fickle. in book form you can flesh it out....in show form, leaving such doubts out there as ' well not many people actually saw it happen' could be seen as good production.

i loved so much about this season. alot to talk about. not mentioned alot but i think Rands treatment of Turak was better than the books, he even suprised himself. he didnt really earn the right to be equal in the sword fight in the books (i know, he was being bettered), also the books are littered with moments where he just blows people away with his power.... so too me it really worked well. a shame Renna Died, would have loved to see her journey and THAT final scene with the band.... i thought the character had a future in the series.

going to keep this as brief as possible. that. was. more. like .it i was OK with season one but it was to the weak end of the scale....these first three episodes are really great....Nyn in the arches is better than the book. the story telling is great....now im removed from thinking it will mimick the books, so long as it motors along 'next to' the storyline and the 'main' characters end up completing the 'main' plot points, ill be happy, and if it keeps tracking the way it is, ill probably be actually even happier to live the epic series again without knowing everything that will happen next. loved so many things the arches Cairhien Mat and Min Liandrin and her son Liandrin being a conflicted character Ishmael the conversation with the child and the trolloc Selene is awesome Egwene and Elanye...who i actually skim through alot on re reads...is some great interaction, really liking it the Seanchen war machine Elyas leading the hunt is really streamlining that arc perfectly...it would be wasteful having two master trackers...sorry Hurin the introduction of the game of houses the list is endless.... i hope i havent just raised my hopes too high....but this is rwally where i was hoping this show would be.

does it get better? romantically...no. Jordans world is amazing and epic....his stories are brilliant....but his romantic relationships...he rarely gets right. Min and Rand i think is on point.....couple of others...Egwene for one never takes a backseat for romance...

isnt that the point though?....to keep to the script.....

yeah happy with that...when i origianlly read the series all those years ago i had Angelina Jolie vibes, so i suppose i had this vision of an attractive but mature female, definately not a young beautiful 20 something...but a mature, drop dead gorgeous character... box ticked.

just watched a rewatch of the series over the last few nights.... anyone think maybe Perrin is attracted to Rand; 1. challenges Rand to treat Eggy better which at first glance is some kind of hint that he likes Eggy....but...what if he were upset and Rands aloofness, based on his own feelings 2. in that scene he clearly states that Laila was 'the only women i ever loved' 3. later in same episode he confirms with Eggy that he loves Rand.... its the same episode which got me thinking, it could be bad writing, but he commits his love for Rand and denies his love for Eggy in two very close scenes. so it could be he is refering to something greater than a platonic love interest my original thought would be it would ruin the story a bit, but on reflection, if its done right, and his love for Faile is chanelled into his love for Rand, and it means one less character with one less side story (the recapture of Faile and the whole horn stuff at thge last book, it really could work if done with a sensitive nod to the original character as in Perrin doesnt really need to change his character ARC significantly, we know he is driven by love and loyalty to one specific person....