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A WHEEL OF TIME COMMUNITY

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  1. I really enjoy Joe Abercrombie's series (one trilogy, one trilogy of "outriggers" related to the first, and an unrelated trilogy), NK Jemisin's (one trilogy, one duology, one longer series in the works), Scott Lynch (three books of a proposed seven), Patrick Rothfuss (two books of a proposed three) and I really liked the first book of The Runelords by David Farland, though I haven't read on in that series. Of all those, I'd say the Farland series scratches the most WOT-specific itch. The Abercrombie series is very much the gritty, soldier's view of fantasy, while Jemisin's books scratch the whole metaphysical/political itch. If you read them in alternating order, you'll feel WOT-full. :) I am one of the only people who doesn't enjoy Sanderson's work, although I like what he did with the WoT. His individual books I find boring. Here's some individual fantasy novels I love: Wild Seed by Octavia Butler (her only fantasy, but her sf books are worth reading) Deerskin by Robin McKinley Throne of the Crescent Moon by Saladin Ahmed Sabriel by Garth Nix Finally, they're not fantasy, but all of Bernard Cornwell's historical novels are pretty absorbing.
  2. If the Dragon is constantly reborn, that would mean that at least one historical figure or present-day figure is Rand, and most likely Perrin, Mat or another character from the series as well. So... using the logic of the WoTworld, who would you place your bets on? I believe Artur Hawkwing was probably Julius Caesar and/or Alexander The Great, but I'd place bets on Mat as Alexander the Great as well. I see a definite kinship between Lan and Saladin. Both had a military destiny that influenced many of their decisions. Moiraine I could see as a reincarnation of Queen Elizabeth the First. Layers upon layers of personality, most of which are kept hidden. I could see Elayne as a reincarnation of Emma Goldman. Just enough fire and willingness to do violence. Still not sure who Rand would have been. Does he have to be a messiah figure, and if so, a successful one? Given the polygamy, we might consider Joseph Smith... ;)
  3. I would desperately like to read Joe Abercrombie's Wheel of Time novel, but not for any reasons that would make The Wheel of Time a better series. :)
  4. The outrigger novel about Mat and Tuon going back to Seanchan. That story wasn't done, and only RJ could have written Mat properly. That said, I'd love to see Sanderson do a River of Souls novel.
  5. Thanks! I'm not sure I understand the division into different groups.
  6. Sanderson's line-level prose is pretty dull. He's just not a word guy. Jordan could fill a page--or a book--with those lush, powerful descriptions and Jordan really made everything seem so big and immersive in his world. But Sanderson has a good sense of plot. I think that if Jordan had lived to finish the series, his version of A Memory of Light would have been slower-paced compared to the one we got. Just about everything in those last three books hits where it should.
  7. My wife was never a big fantasy reader, but since we got an Audible membership, she's been dipping more into fantasy. She read my favorite fantasy book, Octavia Butler's Wild Seed, and loved it. She read the first three volumes of A Song of Ice & Fire, all of Joe Abercrombie's new series (which we jokingly call Half A--) and the Lies of Locke Lamora. Since we started dating fourteen years ago, she's had zero interest in the Wheel of Time. Probably because she's watched me agonize over the Wheel of Time, swear off it, go back to it, yell at Brandon Sanderson for his flat line-level prose and yell at Robert Jordan for his meandering plotlines and obvious spanking fetish--basically, she knows all the flaws of the series. Some of this is my fault--tEotW is already spoiled, since I explained the taint, the Dragon, the Dark One and said the main character is the Dragon Reborn. Of course, I think just about everyone who picks up tEotW figures out that Rand is the Dragon Reborn, so eh. I was really excited to get her the audiobooks because I figured they would be abridged or condensed--and every single one of the audiobooks is unabridged! She says she doesn't even want to try the Eye of the World because she doesn't want to have fourteen books to read to get the ending. I really want to talk to her about the ending, especially the [spoilerS] Sharans and the reason why Lews Therin's original prison weakened. [spoilerS] I wish so badly that there was an abridged version of the series, cutting it down to around nine books, cutting most of the Bowl of the Winds, Faile's kidnapping, Tylin & Mat, and a lot of the other extraneous stuff. I've told her that she can skip the middle books and just read Leigh Butler's summaries on Tor.com, but the summaries aren't on audio. She is a graphic designer and mom working from home, so she loves audiobooks because she can read while she works and while she cleans up after our kids. Have any of you had any luck getting people hooked who swore not to read the series?
  8. I first read the Eye of the World in 1993, and bought each book when it came out, until Jordan died. In 2013 I reread the entire series, Sanderson volumes included, carefully timing it so that I would finish Towers of Midnight just in time to get A Memory of Light and finish it. This last year, I reread the first four volumes, then skipped straight to The Gathering Storm and reread the last three. I was surprised how much I liked rereading the series, given that I had sworn off it at least three times, and come back each time. Like a fool who abandons his lover... or a junkie who can't come clean? You decide which analogy is apropos.
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