A few WoT youtubers have been encouraging rewatches of entire season to bolster case for season 4. It appears completion rates are very important to Amazon. uh oh RoP.

I think the subtle interplay between Elayne and Nyneave was excellent. I hate some of the adaptation choices but some of the actors are really elevating the show. I wanted Stepin to be Elyas character, Kareane to stay around, Bassan to stay around, and I hate that I may have to see a broken Rhyma. And instead of watching sad Lan go on a couples retreat I really would have liked a complicated Elaida, Alanna, Barthanes,, Lady Anvaere and Forsaken plotine.

I think Emonds Field was changed because current US politics defines rural small town as regressive and urban cosmopolitan as progressive. Another reason is that in US many lgbtq people leave small towns to urban enclaves to a found family situation that is more supportive. Problem with this in WoT is that Two Rivers is not just another small town like many show supporters want it to be. It is also not the Shire. Two Rivers is like the Waste for Aiel. It creates a particular culture and set of circumstances that our main characters use as source of strength and develop past. RJ og shows lots of shit little towns with seedy characters. Two Rivers was born from a major defeat of the dark one's forces. Manatheran sacrificed itself to save the world. It left just a fragment of its people and none of its wealth and culture. But it left this stubborness and pride baked into its children. The old blood sings. This sort of nationalism and pride of culture may not be popular to progressives and can be horribly manipulated for all kinds of evil. It is a thing though and has giving many people resolve and comfort in the face of horror.

So the riviting battle between Lan urinating and Barthanes wig. .

Those fletchings and extra shaft are going to do more damage and potentially introduce more infection. There is more here to hash out. Type of head, location of wound and what anatomy is beyond bolt. If it is wooden bolt and in muscle with clear path out, push shaft til head pops out, break or cut fletching end of shaft as short as posiible , then pull bolt through. Now reason why show may have done what they did. Crossbow bolts are shortrr and thicker than arrow shafts. If nyn didnt have saw available and couldn't cleanly break bolt without causing more damage then shove it through like show did. In show healing seems to be almost universal among channelers so quick and dirty becomes valid option if there may be channeler to clean up after.

2 adult daughters and 1 son in law I encouraged tovwatch season 1 before premiere. All fantasy readers but not WoT. All fantasy TV watchers. None finished season 1. Gave season 2 shot after I said it got better. Again all lost interest but may finish season 2 at some point. Wife didnt finish season 1. Went back watched season 1 after I said season 2 was better. She likes 2 but we now go out for dinner and drinks before show and drink during show. She is team Forsaken and Egwene. She dislikes Lan, Moraine, Aes Sedai, and warders. Finds male EF underwhelming. 3 teenage sons watched part of season 1 then stopped. Part of sesson 2 then stopped. My gay uncle and his adult kids watch but about where I am. They find show decent but not great. Coworker's husband and his friends grew up reading WoT together. They are hate watching show and book cloaking online. She likes some of female characters but wouldn't keep watching if husband wasn't. Another coworker started watching with non binary 20 year old kid after they read some positive reviews online. They thought season 1 was ok but havent finished season 2 yet. My female friend from army that started reading books with me in 1991 likes Egwene and Nyn, doesn't like Mat and Perrin( her book favorites) and not big fan of adaptation choices. I have not encountered any chatter in the wild from friends at work or family about show other than ones mentioned. I did and do hear about GoT, HoD, and some Witcher talk. So maybe I would enjoy more if people around me loved show and wanted to talk about. For me just too many dead end story threads and missed potential wow emotional moments because I dont care about characters the same as in books. Not being invested makes many of dumb things TV shows always do stick out and irritate me. Also if we do get 8 seasons I may need a liver transplant.

RoP really upended the trope though. They gave us a farming village with grain, livestock, orchards then had the farmers run off to barren fortress leaving all the food and livestock behind. Because hand to mouth sustenance farmers wouldnt think to pack up supplies. Guess they werent expecting Southlands Walmart to be closed for orc invasion.

I was wrong about Rafe and Moraine for season 3. I read a few articles and merged them in my mind. As far as Ingtar and particularly Verin. Those a pretty beloved scenes by majority of commenters who reread the series. What about the series did you enjoy that made multiple rereads appealing? Also what is your background as much as you wish to reveal. The world is a big place. I have figured out that often cultural, educational, generational differences lead to people just talking past each other. Something I feel like Jordan explored in the series heavily. I know I apparently in quite unusual in my life experience and perspectives even though it all feels normal to me.

I am in such a weird place on this show. As watch and move on TV it is very good. As adaptation trying to be prestige GoT level TV it feels like hot garbage.

So why did Rafe discuss adding additional season 3 material for Pike because she is the star. Unless you have insider info, this is just a guess.

In WoT show Perrin is not blacksmith he is an apprentice or assistant. Layla is blacksmith. Age is irrelevent. A teenager could be a working blacksmith with proper background. I think Ingtar was important to Rand's character growth. He saw how easy good intentions could lead to wrong behavior. That the world was going to be more complex and difficult in resisting the temptation of the dark one. It was also just a great scene foreshadowing the latter big reveal. He was not absolutely needed however. I think show really wasted time even showing Ingtar considering his end.

I agree with most of this. It is hard for me to forget characters later development and place them at a point in time in books. I dont think we are going to see any change from Amazon and showrunners approach. Time constraint and centering Moraine has created a situation where telling a great version of this story will get harder and harder. It will be fine to good single watch TV. A segment of audience that really loves certain aspects of way show is made will love it. But it isnt going to rise to great TV. Besides some great character work and acting the story flaws get worse the more you watch it. The highs show how good it could have been but Amazon and writers cant get out of their own way.

How is Emonds Field going to be handled? We know they rebuilt set for EF in mine pit. Will we get 3 villages in Two Rivers plus mostly destroyed Taren Ferry? Where is battle going to take place if at all. The village from season 1 is almost undefendable without some Rings of Power level cringe. If only one Two Rivers village who saves them? What chatacters will be present in show? Perrin has good reason not to want to go home while Mat has lots of reason. Will Avhienda take Gauls place or go to waste with Rand? Tinkers? Slayer? Will Faile play any role if Perrin goes back? If Mat goes back does he have a giant orgy with drunken Coplins and Congars to celebrate his light saber spear🙂

If marketing is not included in that budget it was not really a financial success. I agree with your assessment it caught a perfect storm of environment to fail. Too bad. Fun movie. I like fun popcorn entertainment. Unless it is WoT. Then it feels like my kids are being pepper sprayed.

Any thoughts if Mats spear is around for rest of show or he gets ashandarei from Finn? When he went to hug Perrin I about lost my mind. Muzzle discipline, muzzle discipline. Friendly fire is not friendly. Not a fan of conch shell of valere. Since magic can now expand matter I would much prefer a small carnyx that grew as he blew. Yea I said that.

Perrins shield he got from Uno Cain. Does he end up keeping it? I assumed it disappeared when heroes vanished but it appears to be on top of rubble pile in last overhead shot of EF5+Andorinita. In this turning no Mjolner maybe power shield? Also Moraine's fire wyrm wrecked most of those ships. It was almost sentient. After knocking ships it then joined her other weaves to create the dragon. Not sure if anything in books did that. possibly some of Rands weaves.

TV Mat is not more interesting to many of us. Him spouting old tongue in a fight to Shadar Logoth was interesting and would have set table for TV hero of horn. Him having dagger removed by group of Aes Sedai was interesting( still possible but unlikely). I liked his being kind of immature brat who does the right thing better than damaged kid from disfunctional family. Also is Mat going back to Emonds Field now? Leaving his sisters there is a bad look if he is a good guy now.

The showrunners and writers made decisions to elevate female storylines. Amazon bought it. This means 4 characters that occupy 60% of book story are developed poorly. As in they should be likable or interesting and are underachieving as characters. The show is fun to watch but mainly because of actors and story beats OG RJ created. This show could have easily been a 9/10. Instead its a muddled 6.5/10 that is best enjoyed with alcohol. If the show continues past season 3 the showrunners better fire a few wig consultants and hire some military historians cause lots of war headed our way. The Seanchan guarding the beach (allowing Lan a moment) but not guarding gates or land approach aint going to cut it.

On scene rewatch I think brand actually came from heron on proximal blade. Rand grabs blade as he is pushing it into Ishamael,'s chest. I wonder if visble heron on hilt may only be on one side. So its been hidden from audience because we are seeing unbranded side. More likely just a prop oops though.

I agree with you on lots of your assessment. However, there was many places where show team made poor choices that led to lots of less entertaing TV that so far hasnt paid off in advancing story. You can argue books made mistakes. Show made more.

As far as Seanchan soldiers, Lan snuck in to Moraine right before they appear that there are soldiers guarding on the cliff. Makes sense from military perspective having patrols. I assume seeing single Lady Single warrior tipped hat this was probably Aes Sedai since several had been captured at this point. The bigger dumb thing was Seanchan not sending patrol out to investigate smoke, closing gate, and having damane ready on outer walls. Remember Whitecloaks had been retaking and harassing outer Seanchan holdings so should have been prepared.

Yep a get back coach like college football. Its why I said they needed a whole crew. Sounds like Rafe and Sarah might be overwhelmed.

True, Liandrin and Lanfear may both enjoy a redemption arc then settle together in a fishing village happily ever after just to spite Mo and Siuan. I win again Amarasue.

What I am seeing is that the writers and showrunners need a group of beta testers for the show at each stage instead of just one expert that can mull over their story boarding and suggest more coherent ideas to advance the plot that doesnt break later story. I wonder where they could find this group of people? Such a giant mystery box?😆

Agaim I reiterate watching Lanfear, Egwene, and now Moghedian chew up scenes is amazing entertainment if you distract your brain slightly with cold beer and RJ approves levels of cleavage. Super high def TV also helps. Somehow this group of writers managed to make a show best viewed at a Hooters.