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  1. Mat pursued Isender actively, although she was not interested in him. Sure, as a darkfriend, it was a game on her part, but it was clear in the book through Rand's eyes that she was running from Mat. Sexual predators often consider such resistance to be feigned, regardless of whether or not it is. Mat changed his interest because he got involved with another female darkfriend and Isendra became a convict of Far Dareis Mai. The pub girl south of Cairhien enjoyed Mat's company, ,ut she thought it was purely a social matter. Mat, on the other hand, took it as a seducing with sex as ending and mentally commented that she was talking too much if it was worth it. Innkeeper did not act as a protector. The girl got free of the work in the inn so she could keep Mat company. Rich customers need to be satisfied. So I'm not sure how much room for CONSENT she would have between Mat the rich customer and the innkeeper the boss. Aludra knew steps better then Mat so she keep things the way she wanted. It wasn't because Mat respected her boundaries, but because she could set and enforce them. What I'm writing here is not for tarn on Mat. I just want to point out one Elayne quote "Taste your own medicine".
  2. Aludra, Isendre and tavern girl south of Cairhien. We do not know the details and all cases are different. The only thing that they have in comon is the fact that Mat do not take NO as an answer.
  3. From all of Matt's attitude, I got the impression that he himself pursued women in same way. If Mat was raped, then Mat is a rapist and vice versa if not then ..... However, I do not claim to make clear judgments as to which of these variants it was. EDIT: I would just like to add that at a time when there was an opinion that a man could not be raped, the same behavior was found legitimate, which today we consider a sexual assault.
  4. Rand shades Bella so that spectators don't know who the main character of show is too soon.
  5. I agree with Thrasymachus, as they described Rand`s sexism. I also agree that the whole world of tWoT is full of various form of sexism and it is one of important aspect of “culture” in book. But that's also the problem I have with OP. Rand was raised to this perception in an environment where women showed their strength differently than on the battlefield. It's not his fault, that he carries such a view of the world with him. When we look at other characters of WoT, some of them with the ugliest possible approach to the opposite sex, why is Rand the one that OP chose as sexist?
  6. I will repost here my list from older version of this thread: https://dragonmount.com/forums/topic/55044-your-favourite-characters-top-ten/page/2/?tab=comments#comment-3949630 1. Rand al'Thor – "What kind of need would be great enough that we'd want the Dragon to save us from it? As well ask for help from the Dark One." Great character arc, honest and loyal in heart, sometime behave like moron, however, I understand me in most of such situation. 2. el'Nynaeve ti al'Meara – “Come over here a moment. There`s something I think you should see“ It appeared to be a bucket of extra water by the washstand. „Here. We`ll both kneel down so you can look.“ Elayne did, but there was nothing in bucket but her own reflection in the water, …. Compassion, loyalty. She remained herself, evolve only in wisdom. She was also the biggest women “badass”. 3. Elmindreda Farshaw - "Oh, no, sheepherder. Not good enough." She wriggled round on his lap in a way that made him clear his throat, and pinned a finger against his chest. "I want tears in your eyes when you say it. I want drool on your chin and a stammer in your voice. You needn't think I won't make you pay." Intelligent, independent, honest and caring. She was “ordinary” women, as well as special one. She save word more than in one way with her intelligence and caring, without army or one power. Some time I wish, Rand could avoid Elayne and Aviendha, when go for Nynaeve to Caemlyn. 4. al'Lan Mandragoran - “I am just a man,” Lan whispered. “That is all I have ever been.” He is Rock. I like how he disarm every bully when he just stand and look. As Min support and complement Rand, He support and complement Nynaeve. 5. Moiraine Damodred - "The wheel weaves as the wheel wills." Mystic, knowledgeable, She was intelligent, powerful and knowledgeable and fact, that she was able find limit of her power and knowledge do her the most intelligent character of WoT, do you agree Socrates? Space and weaving 6. Matrim Cauthon – I disliked him at beginning, but when Talmanes, Tylin and Tuon (3T) take him in “care”, I found his POV amusing and I can know him better. 7. Siuan Sanche – She keep fight until end found her “prince” before death. 8. Davram t'Ghaline Bashere – when The Wheel need some general for mad Dragon, It have to be somebody unique. Talmanes because his humour, Tam because his steadiness, Rodel Ituralde because small wolf cunning, Dobraine Taborwin because loyalty was so rare in land of Carhien.
  7. I labelled Halima base on sentence: “I remember this from the 90s) fear that straight men had that transgender women were going to somehow ‘trick’ them.” I don’t know enough about this problematic, to specify any name myself. I had to maybe avoid second word altogether.
  8. Characters spent a lot of time traveling in first book. It gives us time and space to get to know them, but it is also means less events. The WoT start to use switching between groups to skip less interesting traveling and when Rand find how to travel with saidin, it changes dynamic of books completely. Time spent with Rand and Mat gives as important pieces for their personalities, but It can be tedious at first, when you don’t look at such depth of character.
  9. I don’t think, that mistborn82 asked that Egwene should suffering PTSD from captivity. It serves more as example, where can Egwene arc get some humanity in. Egwene Mary Sue characteristic, and lack of empathy for her friend at the end, dehumanized her. It serves well for picture of Amrilyn, but It serves ill for her character arc. We see Nyn and Rand struggle with their demons, and it give their characters human side. Egwene miss this flavour and experience with Seanchan could serve here as well as something else.
  10. Nyn is in picture, not only because of her deeds, described in OP. She is second also in character development (after rand). Bela as creator can has accomplished most, but she didn’t developed, when she started already perfect. It takes her out of picture from the books point of view. Egwene accomplished a lot, but against mortal enemy, not against dark one or probability itself. Egwene also go in negative way of character development. She lost more then she took by her way.
  11. I would choose Highlander, but I had to go with Bayle Domon's aged grandmother. It was near enough.
  12. I like Moiraine and Siuan character, blue color and Blue Ajah moto as well. So, my answer is clear.
  13. I would point out to the author of OP that LTT led armies of light against the dark and totally screwed it up. If you put in Rand place somebody like Arthur, he'd screwed it up as well. Rand has a lot of weaknesses, but he's strong enough to deal with them. LTT may have had few weaknesses, but he was overwhelmed by them (arrogance for example).
  14. I'd just like to comment on paragraph abou Halima. The character of each person is composed of thousands of pieces. Sexuality defines only a few of them. Halima may be transgender, but she is also the Forsaken. She, like all Forsakens, creates the worst picture of what she can be. Just as Rahvin is an evil image of a heterosexual man and Lanfear is an evil image of a heterosexual woman, Halima can be nothing more than an evil image of transgender women.
  15. Many people here didn't understand the need to reduce the amount of scenes, not the amount of characters, to get the plot into the series. The moment we have reduced scenes, we find that we either don't need some characters at all or we don't need to name them. Do it the other way around, get rid of the characters and find ways to keep the story together... I do not find very wise. Let's imagine, for example, a scene where Rand meet 7 High Lords of Tear. Replacing it with a scene with one or two Lords affects story how? To me, it feels like a low-budget substitute. Just highlight one lord with extensive dialogue, the other two lords will have minor replicas. Extras may then represent the other four lords without a name, but they will still be present. As for Egeanin. Egeanin does not do any heavy lifting in the story, when she bears any name. However, she regularly participates in many scenes of the main characters, some of which are essential. Less important scenes can be discarded, OK. Her performance in the essential scenes can be replaced by someone else. But why should the creators do that? It won't save time, because scenes are essential, and someone has to play her part. Then why can't it be Egeanin herself, who play her part? This applies to a variety of supporting characters who participate on the main story lines. There won't be only 20 characters on the show, the rest extras and CGI. Somebody can be main Lord, other can be two other lords and rest character can be extras. I see Egeanin as main lord or two o support lords, not as extras.
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