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Elendir

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  1. I don't understand why so many fans want to cut different characters right away. You don't need to cut Jaichim Carridin, just get rid of his POVs. Whitecloks will appear in the book, why should one of them not be named Jaichim Carridin and be in the places where he was. If the corresponding arcs of the main characters do not change. Bayle Domon and Egeanin are in similari situation, if we keep the arcs of the main characters, then these characters will be there and can be called Bayle Domon and Egeanin. All you have to do is get rid of their separate chapters. Another case is Berelain, which somebody want to get rid of in another thread. If we remove her, we will not gain any time. She is part of the arcs of the main characters. We can reduce her action by reducing Perin arc (saving of Faile) and not cut her whole off. Cuting is meant to reduce time, and if we don't want to reduce the main arcs, we can't get rid of the characters that appear on them. This does not mean that we cannot reduce their occurrence beyond the main arcs.
  2. I agree, the Well is in the habit of compensating for the Dark one's interventions as soon as its direct influence wears off. That would mean a sharp turn for the better after the Last Battle. In addition, people are now motivated to showcase the best in them.
  3. After the conquest of Cairhien, Rand did not trust any of the local nobles. Dobraine would be a bad replacement. Suitable replacement would certainly be found for all her tasks. Appropriate replacement in stable roles can be more difficult. The whole thing is to have fewer actors, not more. The moment you hire an actress to push Elayne to try to seduce Rand, it can be anyone, even First of Mayene. Elayne can also get into the action without pushing. The Cairhienins may accept Aiel as steward, and Faile can be jealous without rival. None of this breaks the story. But does it help anything?
  4. I agree that Berelain is a character that can be cut off. However, she has an influence on the story. Although it does not fundamentally affect events, she quite often affects events of a local nature. All her actions can be attributed to someone else. As a result, it may be easier to leave her at serial than to replace her in ten different places.
  5. Aviendha's vision is already averted. When Rand made Aiels peacekeepers, he significantly changed their behavior in the future. They demanded their involvement in Dragon Peace, because Aviendha's vision. Their honor will not allow them to disturb peace if they are to guard it.
  6. No real Aiel (from the point of ages of legends view) lives during Rand’s life. I tend to see that the Aiels are the ones who serve (through Aes Sedai) to everyone. Which are the ones who follow Rand to the last battle.
  7. Okay, since you're asking the question repeatedly, I'll tell you about it, even if it's off topic. I read the series 4 - 6 (first 6 last 4). I do not know how many times I came across the name Moiraine and how many other names. Nothing less, I always have to copy the name from somewhere to make it right, except a few short name. The correct order of letters has never been so important to me when reading. I refer to the books because I do not know for sure what the series will contain. Are you satisfied? And now more on the subject. The reasons why the visit to Adeleas and Vandene should not be explicitly depicted in the series. NOT REASON 0. Although it may seem from my previous references. I do not consider as reason that Moiraine should free up space in the second book for others (after her lead in the first book). She should be part of second book, but the storyline of the book allows us to reduce her occurrence. REASONS 1. Obligatory, the story must be reduced and the least substantial parts need to be cut. 2. The location appears little and contains characters that appear again a few books further. 3. A superficial depiction of how Moiraine reads would not be very entertaining, and a detailed depiction would then spoiler the rest of her actions in the books. The visit of Moiraine to Adeleas and Vandene is essential part of her arc. She started her changing there. However Robert Jordan had reason to do not spoil it to as then.
  8. I did not see anybody use acronyms in such way here, as you two expected from me. You need to read think in context and do not see Mat everywhere. I do not know what the meaning of MC = Mat would make in this sentence: I think, first book can be Morain centred very well. We can get introduced of Emonds 5 as she do. Then she will vanish completely at second book, and Rand will take most of time. Third book will be again connected with “disappearing” of MC from book before and Perin or super girl can follow in same pattern. However that still doesn't prevent you from quickly pointing out who's to blame. The main character of the book before the third book is the main character of the second book (or or the first book, but I thought the second). If for you the MC from the book before the third book was Mat. So you wrote about Mat from the second book. “context”
  9. Mat What Mat where? Mat is "zombie" during second book. He is hardly MC="Main Character" of the second book. When I wrote about second book, I wrote about Rand. Morain is then another case. Her disappearance from the pages in the book can be a nice help in shifting emphasis on Rand in the serie, of course, after the events in Fal Dara. They can easily base the story of the first book on an acclaimed actress and give space to other actors to profile themselves. We all know however that the book is not about Morain, which, after some time, leaves the story for a long time.
  10. You're right about the war crime. It would make sense to return him to Gheldan for diplomatic points after gentling. But that WT would have to work more diplomatically and less like bully.
  11. Read my contribution first please, and do not put there words, which are not there. If only Morain will be "star" after first book, then series will be at very dark spot. They can use here very well et first book, but if they will stay with her as number one in others .....
  12. The three oaths are not subject to the inconsistency of the narrative on the contrary. RJ is subconsciously very consistent here. Rather, they are the inconsistencies of the As Sedai inner values. What is something different.
  13. Morain's visit to Adelaas and Vandene is hardly essential. We just know that she spent some time studying there and that she was attacked. Most have taken place off-page, so it can easily take place off-screen. Morain can then briefly discuss this in the next section. I didn't write anything about Mat's absence in the third book. There is a difference between focusing on a character and ignoring others. My whole idea was based on the fact that Morain is presented as the main character in the present description of the WoT serial. I would like to keep this first book. Morain then has several acts in the second book, but nothing extensive. If she left space to Rand, it would be clear that the Books aren't about Morain. Rand is then most of the third book off-page. Viewers can find out that even though it is Dragon Reborn again, it's not just only about him.
  14. I think, first book can be Morain centred very well. We can get introduced of Emonds 5 as she do. Then she will vanish completely at second book, and Rand will take most of time. Third book will be again connected with “disappearing” of MC from book before and Perin or super girl can follow in same pattern. This way, attention will be distributed between characters.
  15. When she repeted this catechism, she believedit it is true. No more connection is there with three oaths.
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