Cliché Mafia - Game Thread (GAME OVER - MAFIA WIN)

[LedZepMan]

I like what Turins selling more than you. Is that a crime?

 

If you flip town, yeah I'm screwed. That makes me look more like I'm wagoning. I'm ok with that for right now.

 

 

So I get tossed together with Zep as scum team? Lololol

 

It was more a joke directed at Dice than I defense of Zep. Mainly because I am much more familiar with Dice than I am Zep. Zep was only a background to a really lame teasing of Dice.

 

*scratches head*

 

Thats some very interesting mental gymnastics there Turin.[/bold]

 

Of course like Niniel said it could be fishing for reactions. Ill put a pin in that for later consideration.

 

Turin Shad was my mentor for my second mafia game and has played two other DM games with me so far. I dont know how comfortable he is about reading me though, guess he will have to answer that part.

That's a deflection. Trying to nullify his opinion by making him seem unreasonable. When he was on me I didn't belittle his opinion.

 

Killa never responds to this, don't know why that's striking me as off right now, I'm sure I will later.

 

 

 

My drive to solve is pretty low on the first day to be honest, thats pretty much usual for me. I am currently still one of the more active posters aside from you, Shad and Zep. Also I am not selling anything. lol If you want to build a wagon for me and send me hurtling down the hill for the first day lynch, for lack of a better option, then thats what your gonna do. You might want to watch Zep after though. He does seem to be just jumping on your coat tails to avoid you turning on him.

 

Obviously my flavor reference and joke about dice did not go over well and if thats how you see it I dont really mind. Town has got to start somewhere and any day one death gets the ball rolling. I mean duh I am going to try to get out of it because I at least know I am town.

Italics: Flavour reference?? what are you talking about? If you are town then you should mind because a town death is a bad thing. the only benefit it gains is info and if you just accept it then that info is reduced.

 

Bold: this fatalistic stuff gets me frustrated. It feels like the old "you can't catch mafia on D1 so I'm not gonna try."

 

If you know you are town then you need to work to try to find mafia. If you think Zep is mafia because he is just following me then say so. vote him if you feel strongly enough about it. Saying you ar town is all well and good. You gotta BE TOWN. That means fighting for the town.

 

 

I'm getting more sure at this point that you're just a wolf.

 

 

And don't worry, Zep definitely still needs to show me he's town.

 

1st bold- Gives Killa a bit of a lecture, you can see the pressure fading on Killa.

 

2nd bold- Says your more and more certain she's a wolf, then later hops on to Dice wagon.

 

3rd bold- Back to keeping me in everybody's eye. The squeaky wheel gets the grease.

[LedZepMan]

I need to find a better way to distinguish my stuff. How does one color text?

[Shad_]

@ Turin what about Oscar?

 

Run me through Killa as LZM's partner theory.

 

@ Killa who are the wolves iyo?

[Killashandra]

Well sheesh. Wth. *shrug* I am the innocent child. I will send the mods my PM.

 

I was gonna hold off but its been thrown around enough anyway. Its not really useful. But this way town can avoid a potential mis lynch. I will probably get nk'd but hopefully if there is a vig (not a serial killer *crosses fingers*) that is one more night for them to go after the real mafia.

[LedZepMan]

 

You can get as sure as you like but its not going to turn out exactly as your expecting it to.

 

I dont feel strong enough about zep (yet)to vote. I am not that confident of a player to throw down on making my own "I am for sure" day one votes. I get more sure about reads and votes near the end of the second day.

 

Also your play style is not my play style at all. This is a game, for entertainment. I dont really consider hard work as part of that. If that makes me a bad player then so be it but that kind of over eager aggressive play style will never be me. *shrug*

 

No one else has really said much so how can anyone do much game solving when there is a lot of people hanging back? What content other than yours, zep and Shads do I really have to work with. I already gave my opinion on shad. I already made a statement about zep and my lack of meta for him. When you asked how I felt about his vote I gave you an answer. Just what material are you expecting me to pull out of my a**? Lol

 

I am not into making up reads just post them as busy work and fluff. Thats what mafia has to do. Not me.

Okay. You do you I guess. My POV is that you don't have to really be "sure" the person you are voting is mafia, just that they are the best choice in your own opinion. I mean how often are you ever really sure? Maybe with a red peek or if someone makes an obvious slip. The rest of the time it is best guess based on current info, which is of course less earlier and especially if people aren't posting. Remember tho this is a hammer game and if no maj is reached then it apparently goes random weighted by who has the most votes. Also if you aren't voting at DL that means you are voting yourself in regards to the random lynch.

 

I guess this is just gonna be one random game then...

So Turin goes from leading this lynch on Killa, to basically letting her off with a warning. This is where I start to get very suspicious of Turin. I start to believe maybe this is a distancing play to drag someone in and use the circumstances to lynch em. I start thinking I'm the sacrifice since Turin has kept me in the forefront.

 

Then this. I can almost see his brain turn to his next victim.

 

Well Dice might be asleep again so there is always that...

[Killashandra]

Ok that seems a little far fetched LZM

[Shad_]

Well sheesh. Wth. *shrug* I am the innocent child. I will send the mods my PM.

 

I was gonna hold off but its been thrown around enough anyway. Its not really useful. But this way town can avoid a potential mis lynch. I will probably get nk'd but hopefully if there is a vig (not a serial killer *crosses fingers*) that is one more night for them to go after the real mafia.

Oh for goodness sake have more confidence in me lol

[Leyrann]

As the girl gathered attention from those around her, she started to feel threatened, thinking they might be convinced she was to be blamed for the deaths last night. She made sure she got a bit of space in the busy main hall, and then she threw back her cowl, revealing her long, golden hair. "I'm your princess!" she said. "I would never want to do any of you harm, and I want to find the ones who did this as much as you do!"

 

Killa, the Princess (Town Innocent Child) has been revealed as Town.

[Turin Turambar]

@ Turin what about Oscar?

 

Run me through Killa as LZM's partner theory.

 

@ Killa who are the wolves iyo?

what about Oscar. Not sure what you are asking. I had Nyn as null-town but she was low volume for her. She did vote Dice late which surprised me in that he didn't respond very much to it IIRC.

 

The Killa/LZM connection was that in my opinion they defend each other during the early interaction. They both pinged me some but the main thing was the way Killa looked to nullify Dice clapping back at LZM for his vote, Then LZM not seeing even the possibility of her posts being defense of him. I may try to get my computer in order to put it together.

[Shad_]

A shocker to not this guy. 

[Leyrann]

Interesting?

[Shad_]

 

@ Turin what about Oscar?

 

Run me through Killa as LZM's partner theory.

 

@ Killa who are the wolves iyo?

what about Oscar. Not sure what you are asking. I had Nyn as null-town but she was low volume for her. She did vote Dice late which surprised me in that he didn't respond very much to it IIRC.

 

The Killa/LZM connection was that in my opinion they defend each other during the early interaction. They both pinged me some but the main thing was the way Killa looked to nullify Dice clapping back at LZM for his vote, Then LZM not seeing even the possibility of her posts being defense of him. I may try to get my computer in order to put it together.

 

 

D1 wagonomics says w/w was extreeeeeeeemely unlikely but I wanted to see who would get there on their own.  Too late now. 

[LedZepMan]

Cool, so that was about all I had to say. Will day always be this long? [v] killa [/v] lets get a real train yall

Darthe gets on killas train.

 

 

so killa

 

im thinking town. shes only got three votes but thats due to the slowness of the game so far. Noones really defended her unless u wanna call what shad said about seeing it being a joke.

 

So either mafia has cut their leg off since the beginning of D1 unlikely or shes town.

 

could also be the games too inactive to really figure it out. but that can be solved by relooking at her later

 

 

ninis vote on me has me tinfoiling. its totally a vote she might throw on me but i feel its also a vote shed throw as mafia to distance herself from the main train thats kinda questionable.

 

gonna vote shad cause I TOLD him i would if he did it and he did it. Im not sold on him either way have seen him talk both sides of the fence last game after all.

 

serious thoughts are pointing at nini darthe and zepman

 

 

@Darthe what are ure reasons on shad and killa?

If mafia think they can't save a member early D1 then they are likely to not attempt to defend them(e.g. you in the last BT game) So it does happen and mafia are then stuck with picking up the pieces.

 

You have conflicted thoughts on Nini due to her vote and what you think her motive could be? how are you gonna resolve that?

What was your issue with Zep?

 

I'm gonna say that the entire Shad wolf vote thing feels fake. I think that you were doing it just because you felt you had to but were sort of trying to see if you could make it stick by leaving the vote there a while.

 

Are you voting Shad because you think he is more likely mafia than the other 3 people?

i said exactly why im voting him in that earlier post.

 

ive got nyn and you as town so far wont vote either of u at this point.

 

Marsh left me going " thats a lot of words on a page but he still doesnt really say anything" not sure what to do there

Marsh seemed to take a few positions in his posts. He didn't vote but I can see why he might have held back at that point as it would have move Killa to L-2.

I don't want to out words in your mouth but that sounds like a NO to me. I'm not trying to badger you but did you vote him because you think he is mafia or did you vote him on policy?

i voted him cause i told him i would if he threw that wolfs head or claimed scum.

 

theres an element of playfulness but also he told me was gonna do it the next time he rolled villager but i note he didnt do it til you started hassling me.

 

I WOULD lynch him for it but i am also playing

This post is why I said that the Shad vote feels fake. You say you are playing meaning your aren't serious about the vote but you also say that you are willing to lynch him for it which implies that you are serious about it. It really aught to be one or the other.

 

I think it would have made more sense for you to quote his "sup" (which is a real wolf claim,LOL) OP and vote him there for NOT posting it when he said he would in his next village game.

 

no darthe voted shad and killa iirc what i want is reasons he came in and in his first couple posts named them as scum. i wanna know if theres actual reasons or if hes just stirring the pot

What if he says it was just stirring? What if he says it was for no real reason at all?

 

bedtime for me. 'Night.

This is Dice's reply but I messed up the quote trying to remove spaces...

 

 

 

then i shrug go its just darthe and watch him as im gonna do anyway.

 

That line looks like you are basically trying to make up a reason to make Darthe a suspect. You are saying you want reasons but if he doesn't give you any your'e just gonna go okay and move on. Your method isn't resolving his slot.

 

i don't like it.

 

Unvote

 

Vote: Dice

He then hops on Dice. I don't like his reasoning for voting dice over the fact that he isn't trying to resolve Darthes spot. Everyone is a suspect. You don't need to make up a reason. Feels almost spiteful.

[Killashandra]

Shad I am a little torn. Both turin and led seem confidant and contributing. But I feel like one is probably scum. The whole scum team wont hang back this much if it was darth, oscar, dawn. Unless they are both town and mafia is just letting this run its course...

 

Wifom.

[LedZepMan]

Damn. One theory gone. Ok Killa. My apologies. I need to go back and revise

[Shad_]

Shad I am a little torn. Both turin and led seem confidant and contributing. But I feel like one is probably scum. The whole scum team wont hang back this much if it was darth, oscar, dawn. Unless they are both town and mafia is just letting this run its course...

 

Wifom.

 

Inactives gonna inactive.  I don't think both wolves are in that pile but I wouldn't rule it out by inactivity alone.

[Shad_]

If you're not confident on anything come closer to EoD you can become my vote. 

[Shad_]

btw solid play to dodge the N1 kill thumbsup.gif

[Killashandra]

Sounds good to me! Lol.

 

I think by then I will have a better idea of whats up and whats down. I hope.

[Turin Turambar]

Boom. Thanks Killa. Or Ley. However that worked out.

 

Okay. So that cuts out that line of thought.

[Killashandra]

btw solid play to dodge the N1 kill thumbsup.gif

Thanks. Though the doc and cop still being around would have been much better. *le sigh*

[Ironeyes]

Off the plane and on a train. I just skimmed the thread. My impression of the game thus far is:

Led tunnels Turin. Turin defends himself.

Killa is town and drew heat intentionally since she could reveal whenever

Oscar, welcome to the game.

Darthe and dawn still absent.

 

[V]Darthe[/V] Get in here dude

[Shad_]

 

btw solid play to dodge the N1 kill thumbsup.gif

Thanks. Though the doc and cop still being around would have been much better. *le sigh*

 

 

Nothing you can do about that.  Roles like yours need to preserve.  Roles like mine need to eat night kills.

[LedZepMan]

That really undermines most of why I think Turin is scum.

 

Now that my righteous vigor is played out it looks like I'm the A----ole. I'm going to explore the idea of Turin/Marsh, but I was way more confident in my read on Turin/Killa.

[Turin Turambar]

 

btw solid play to dodge the N1 kill thumbsup.gif

Thanks. Though the doc and cop still being around would have been much better. *le sigh*

Neither death is on you. You obviously didn't kill Niniel and you were on Zep right? Now try to dig in and see what you come up with.

 

LOL, your role is the only thing I can confirm I have gotten right all game.