Cliché Mafia - Game Thread (GAME OVER - MAFIA WIN)

[Shad_]

Why are you avoiding talking directly at me??

I really had my heart set on lynching you this game something fierce. Just overall sadness.

I don't know what red means but otherwise you're a big girl and you'll drop a bunch of reads if you want to, as I see it.

[Shad_]

Right now I'm mainly processing do I want to hard defend Killa or just let it happen and do I want to vote LZM.

[Nynaeve]

It means what it says.

[Shad_]

It means what it says.

 

Is it a read on me or a generic statement about my approach to your slot in this game though?

[Nynaeve]

 

It means what it says.

Is it a read on me or a generic statement about my approach to your slot in this game though?

It's a read mixed with a generic statement about wanting you generically dead.

 

What?! It's a word... >.>

[Shad_]

Was that a type an initial response fail to delete it before typing a revised response moment? 

[Nynaeve]

Huh?

[Nynaeve]

I was referring to generically. Wtf are you on about?

[Shad_]

The "What?! It's a word... >.>" bit.  It's not important.

 

*insert generic question about reads/who you want to lynch/etc*

[Leyrann]

Vote count:

 

Dice (1) - Nini

Killa (3) - Turin, Led, Darthe

LedZepMan (1) - Killa

 

Not voting: Everyone else.

 

With 10 people alive, 6 votes are required for a lynch.

 

[Shad_]

How much time do I really want to put into this game?

 

[v]LZM[/v]

[Nynaeve]

Kinda want to lynch dice. But i have to go through his stuff first before i decide. Could also go for darthe/ dawn though I've never been super kin on inactive lynches. Still I've made exceptions in the past.

 

I feel out of my depth with LZM and Killa cause i dont know how to read them. LZM i think got mislynched D1 in Sooh's game? and im pretty sure it kinda happened on its own and scum didnt even hsd to push it. So he's not a clean cut read from little ive seen. As far as Killa im pretty sure we've only been w/v so I've never had to read her. Her op is eh. The rest wasnt awful. Normally I'd reread but i really dont have the time. Only on friday prolly so less relevant to this phase. I'd rather not vote either today and see more unless i can squeeze in some isoing today but it really depends on when i get home today.

[Shad_]

How much time do I really want to put into this game?

 

[v]LZM[/v]

 

It boils down to this: I think he was a lot more creatively descriptive in his D1 stances in Peg + Cat.  I don't know if that's a tell or just a difference of a highly active game vs a highly inactive one.  It's not anything near a high-confidence vote and I might yet move it before EoD.

[Shad_]

Kinda want to lynch dice. But i have to go through his stuff first before i decide. Could also go for darthe/ dawn though I've never been super kin on inactive lynches. Still I've made exceptions in the past.

 

I feel out of my depth with LZM and Killa cause i dont know how to read them. LZM i think got mislynched D1 in Sooh's game? and im pretty sure it kinda happened on its own and scum didnt even hsd to push it. So he's not a clean cut read from little ive seen. As far as Killa im pretty sure we've only been w/v so I've never had to read her. Her op is eh. The rest wasnt awful. Normally I'd reread but i really dont have the time. Only on friday prolly so less relevant to this phase. I'd rather not vote either today and see more unless i can squeeze in some isoing today but it really depends on when i get home today.

 

I think it's safe to ignore everything about LZM in M:tG except he gets busy and can't be active sometimes just like everyone else, so yeah, it was a scum driven lynch but that's irrelevant.

 

I could be giving Dice a too easy pass for not following the exact same strategy he did in his last scum game, but I'm not bothered by him yet.  Anything specific that you remember?

[Shad_]

I'm going to sleep in 30 minutes and I'm not going to inconvenience myself to engage before DL tomorrow if the timing doesn't work out for me.  If y'all have any questions for me ask them now.  A lot more work I wish I was doing because I despise walking into an EoD not feeling like I put in my 100%, but 6 hour a day Mafia Shad needs to die.

[Shad_]

@ Killa a link to your off-site scum game would be rad.

[Leyrann]

Vote count:

 

Dice (1) - Nini

Killa (3) - Turin, Led, Darthe

LedZepMan (2) - Killa, Shad

 

Not voting: Everyone else.

 

With 10 people alive, 6 votes are required for a lynch.

 

[Shad_]

I have a hunch what Killa's role is, though I don't know if my reasons line up with her experience.  We'll see.

 

I really don't think she's mafia.  If she is she totally leveled me with her meta and attitude when there were alternative paths that might have bought her a lot more town equity from the village collectively.

[Turin Turambar]

so killa

 

im thinking town. shes only got three votes but thats due to the slowness of the game so far. Noones really defended her unless u wanna call what shad said about seeing it being a joke.

 

So either mafia has cut their leg off since the beginning of D1   unlikely   or shes town.

 

could also be the games too inactive to really figure it out. but that can be solved by relooking at her later

 

 

ninis vote on me has me tinfoiling. its totally a vote she might throw on me but i feel its also a vote shed throw as mafia to distance herself  from the main train thats kinda questionable.

 

gonna vote shad cause I TOLD him i would if he did it and he did it. Im not sold on him either way  have seen him talk both sides of the fence last game after all.

 

serious thoughts are pointing at nini darthe and zepman

 

 

@Darthe  what are ure reasons on shad and killa?

If mafia think they can't save a member early D1 then they are likely to not attempt to defend them(e.g. you in the last BT game) So it does happen and mafia are then stuck with picking up the pieces. 

 

You have conflicted thoughts on Nini due to her vote and what you think her motive could be? how are you gonna resolve that?

What was your issue with Zep? 

 

I'm gonna say that the entire Shad wolf vote thing feels fake. I think that you were doing it just because you felt you had to but were sort of trying to see if you could make it stick by leaving the vote there a while.

 

 

Are you voting Shad because you think he is more likely mafia than the other 3 people?

 

i said exactly why im voting him in that earlier post.

 

ive got nyn and you as town so far wont vote either of u at this point.

 

Marsh left me going " thats a lot of words on a page but he still doesnt really say anything"  not sure what to do there

 

Marsh seemed to take a few positions in his posts. He didn't vote but I can see why he might have held back at that point as it would have move Killa to L-2. 

 

I don't want to out words in your mouth but that sounds like a NO to me. I'm not trying to badger you but did you vote him because you think he is mafia or did you vote him on policy?

 

 

i voted him cause i told him i would if he threw that wolfs head or claimed scum.

 

theres an element of playfulness but also he told me was gonna do it the next time he rolled villager   but i note he didnt do it til you started hassling me. 

 

I WOULD lynch him for it but i am also playing

This post is why I said that the Shad vote feels fake. You say you are playing meaning your aren't serious about the vote but you also say that you are willing to lynch him for it which implies that you are serious about it. It really aught to be one or the other.

 

I think it would have made more sense for you to quote his "sup" (which is a real wolf claim,LOL) OP and vote him there for NOT posting it when he said he would in his next village game.  

 

 

no darthe voted shad and killa iirc what i want is reasons he came in and in his first couple posts named them as scum. i wanna know if theres actual reasons or if hes just stirring the pot

What if he says it was just stirring? What if he says it was for no real reason at all?

 

bedtime for me. 'Night.

 

This is Dice's reply but I messed up the quote trying to remove spaces...

 

then i shrug go its just darthe and watch him as im gonna do anyway.

 

That line looks like you are basically trying to make up a reason to make Darthe a suspect. You are saying you want reasons but if he doesn't give you any your'e just gonna go okay and move on. Your method isn't resolving his slot. 

 

i don't like it.

 

Unvote

 

Vote: Dice

[Turin Turambar]

I have a hunch what Killa's role is, though I don't know if my reasons line up with her experience.  We'll see.

 

I really don't think she's mafia.  If she is she totally leveled me with her meta and attitude when there were alternative paths that might have bought her a lot more town equity from the village collectively.

I have an idea about this as well. It is part of why I'm willing to let her go for the day. I expect if I don't see what I'm hoping for then she can be readdressed tomorrow.

[Killashandra]

 

so killa

 

im thinking town. shes only got three votes but thats due to the slowness of the game so far. Noones really defended her unless u wanna call what shad said about seeing it being a joke.

 

So either mafia has cut their leg off since the beginning of D1 unlikely or shes town.

 

could also be the games too inactive to really figure it out. but that can be solved by relooking at her later

 

 

ninis vote on me has me tinfoiling. its totally a vote she might throw on me but i feel its also a vote shed throw as mafia to distance herself from the main train thats kinda questionable.

 

gonna vote shad cause I TOLD him i would if he did it and he did it. Im not sold on him either way have seen him talk both sides of the fence last game after all.

 

serious thoughts are pointing at nini darthe and zepman

 

 

@Darthe what are ure reasons on shad and killa?

If mafia think they can't save a member early D1 then they are likely to not attempt to defend them(e.g. you in the last BT game) So it does happen and mafia are then stuck with picking up the pieces.

 

You have conflicted thoughts on Nini due to her vote and what you think her motive could be? how are you gonna resolve that?

What was your issue with Zep?

 

I'm gonna say that the entire Shad wolf vote thing feels fake. I think that you were doing it just because you felt you had to but were sort of trying to see if you could make it stick by leaving the vote there a while.

 

Are you voting Shad because you think he is more likely mafia than the other 3 people?

i said exactly why im voting him in that earlier post.

 

ive got nyn and you as town so far wont vote either of u at this point.

 

Marsh left me going " thats a lot of words on a page but he still doesnt really say anything" not sure what to do there

Marsh seemed to take a few positions in his posts. He didn't vote but I can see why he might have held back at that point as it would have move Killa to L-2.

I don't want to out words in your mouth but that sounds like a NO to me. I'm not trying to badger you but did you vote him because you think he is mafia or did you vote him on policy?

i voted him cause i told him i would if he threw that wolfs head or claimed scum.

 

theres an element of playfulness but also he told me was gonna do it the next time he rolled villager but i note he didnt do it til you started hassling me.

 

I WOULD lynch him for it but i am also playing

This post is why I said that the Shad vote feels fake. You say you are playing meaning your aren't serious about the vote but you also say that you are willing to lynch him for it which implies that you are serious about it. It really aught to be one or the other.

 

I think it would have made more sense for you to quote his "sup" (which is a real wolf claim,LOL) OP and vote him there for NOT posting it when he said he would in his next village game.

 

no darthe voted shad and killa iirc what i want is reasons he came in and in his first couple posts named them as scum. i wanna know if theres actual reasons or if hes just stirring the pot

What if he says it was just stirring? What if he says it was for no real reason at all?

 

bedtime for me. 'Night.

This is Dice's reply but I messed up the quote trying to remove spaces...

 

 

 

then i shrug go its just darthe and watch him as im gonna do anyway.

 

That line looks like you are basically trying to make up a reason to make Darthe a suspect. You are saying you want reasons but if he doesn't give you any your'e just gonna go okay and move on. Your method isn't resolving his slot.

 

i don't like it.

 

Unvote

 

Vote: Dice

I would love to weigh in on dice but I absolutely can not read him at all. I was determined Shad was scum in the magic the gathering game while my hydra partner was on dice. We were both right in the end but I failed to really get into the dice vote. I just can not tell his wolf play from his town play. Its all null to scum to me even when he is town. The time I did play town with him he seemed more aggressive with a ton of crazy theories than when he was scum. So maybe thats a thing.

[Killashandra]

@ Killa a link to your off-site scum game would be rad.

Let me make sure it is finished before hand. It was super inactive and slow. I probably wont play again there. It was a little frustrating because the mafia role blocker missed a night move and I really had to push them to be active in the qt. It got rolling there for a bit and we had town going in circles and then the vig got me. I have not really followed it afterwards. *goes off to check*

[Leyrann]

Vote count:

 

Dice (2) - Nini, Turin

Killa (2) - Led, Darthe

LedZepMan (2) - Killa, Shad

 

Not voting: Everyone else.

 

With 10 people alive, 6 votes are required for a lynch.

 

[dicetosser1]

 

so killa

 

im thinking town. shes only got three votes but thats due to the slowness of the game so far. Noones really defended her unless u wanna call what shad said about seeing it being a joke.

 

So either mafia has cut their leg off since the beginning of D1   unlikely   or shes town.

 

could also be the games too inactive to really figure it out. but that can be solved by relooking at her later

 

 

ninis vote on me has me tinfoiling. its totally a vote she might throw on me but i feel its also a vote shed throw as mafia to distance herself  from the main train thats kinda questionable.

 

gonna vote shad cause I TOLD him i would if he did it and he did it. Im not sold on him either way  have seen him talk both sides of the fence last game after all.

 

serious thoughts are pointing at nini darthe and zepman

 

 

@Darthe  what are ure reasons on shad and killa?

If mafia think they can't save a member early D1 then they are likely to not attempt to defend them(e.g. you in the last BT game) So it does happen and mafia are then stuck with picking up the pieces. 

 

You have conflicted thoughts on Nini due to her vote and what you think her motive could be? how are you gonna resolve that?

What was your issue with Zep? 

 

I'm gonna say that the entire Shad wolf vote thing feels fake. I think that you were doing it just because you felt you had to but were sort of trying to see if you could make it stick by leaving the vote there a while.

 

 

Are you voting Shad because you think he is more likely mafia than the other 3 people?

 

i said exactly why im voting him in that earlier post.

 

ive got nyn and you as town so far wont vote either of u at this point.

 

Marsh left me going " thats a lot of words on a page but he still doesnt really say anything"  not sure what to do there

 

Marsh seemed to take a few positions in his posts. He didn't vote but I can see why he might have held back at that point as it would have move Killa to L-2. 

 

I don't want to out words in your mouth but that sounds like a NO to me. I'm not trying to badger you but did you vote him because you think he is mafia or did you vote him on policy?

 

 

i voted him cause i told him i would if he threw that wolfs head or claimed scum.

 

theres an element of playfulness but also he told me was gonna do it the next time he rolled villager   but i note he didnt do it til you started hassling me. 

 

I WOULD lynch him for it but i am also playing

This post is why I said that the Shad vote feels fake. You say you are playing meaning your aren't serious about the vote but you also say that you are willing to lynch him for it which implies that you are serious about it. It really aught to be one or the other.

 

I think it would have made more sense for you to quote his "sup" (which is a real wolf claim,LOL) OP and vote him there for NOT posting it when he said he would in his next village game.  

 

 

no darthe voted shad and killa iirc what i want is reasons he came in and in his first couple posts named them as scum. i wanna know if theres actual reasons or if hes just stirring the pot

What if he says it was just stirring? What if he says it was for no real reason at all?

 

bedtime for me. 'Night.

 

This is Dice's reply but I messed up the quote trying to remove spaces...

 

then i shrug go its just darthe and watch him as im gonna do anyway.

 

That line looks like you are basically trying to make up a reason to make Darthe a suspect. You are saying you want reasons but if he doesn't give you any your'e just gonna go okay and move on. Your method isn't resolving his slot. 

 

i don't like it.

 

Unvote

 

Vote: Dice

 

 

you know Turin you tend to talk at or about me like ure such an expert and yet you can be SOOOOO wrong.

 

Shad he posted it in an obviously playful way. As did you with BG. hence you being told to get bent playfully.

 

However you come into a game im in and claim mafia i will HAPPILY lynch ure butt if i think youre the sort of player that would actually do that AS MAFIA.I could probably dig up an example game for you if i had to tho the one i remember was quite a while ago. Then consider that shad and i had a conversation about this last game where he said he was going to purposely do it.

 

Now add my slight concern that he DIDNT do that right out the gate but a little later. Yeah Id lynch him for it. Id also lynch him because hes not doing anything he cant do as scum. Until I get a view from a confirmed cop I dont trust him 100% ever.

 

As for time of vote sitting there   he hadnt responded to it yet. once he did  unvoted.   you seem to have missed that.

 

And policy lynches are serious but their not the same as gameplay serious.

 

 

 

As for Darthe what do you want me to do until he actually replies? and if he DOES say something like that  yes im gonna shrug go its darthe   cause it is     and try to work him out from there. 

 

Oh and as for niniel? Same way I will with anyone else  read and evaluate. With her I have certain things I look for.

[Killashandra]

Ok I looked and it is still going on. Almost over and right down to the wire. (Might actually follow the dead thread now) I dont know if I feel comfortable posting it until it is over. Not because I am hiding how I played it but because it is still unresolved.