Ghostbusters Mafia - Game Over - Mafia Wins!

[Niniel]

I´d like if someone could make it clear to me what lie in the qt (about Dice?) you are talking about. I´ve read back but I still don´t get it. 

[Niniel]

  On 4/9/2016 at 5:17 AM, Zander said:

 

  On 4/9/2016 at 5:06 AM, Shad_ said:

Do I think Zander as either alignment might go "awh s--- he knows who I am" and reveal in QT?

 

Yes?

 

 

Because he said hi to me as his first post after I started posting?

 

Are effing kidding me?

 

Let me phrase it this way, do you think Scum!Zander posts in the QT secretly, then at the SAME time starts posting in the thread if im trying to really NOT let him know who I am?

 

Or is it more likely to come from Town!Zander being paranoid and seeing what what was what and feeling things out, I stopped because I decided I was gonna do the back and forth because nothing could be proven the QT and it wasnt something I was gonna bother with

 

Which seems more likely to you?

 

 

So you tried to let him know who you were even though you posted under another name? That sounds really weird. 

[Lenlo]

I appreciate you guys keeping the thread page count relatively low. Im done with my exam/big stuff for now so im gonna be catching up lynching wolves.

[Lenlo]

  On 4/6/2016 at 10:03 PM, Ithillian Turambar said:

I'm getting the BT back together.

Oooooo cool

[Tsukibana]

  On 4/9/2016 at 3:07 PM, Niniel said:

 

  On 4/9/2016 at 3:46 AM, Hallia said:

...

 

Continue to read and you will see. He tried to made Laine look suspicous with words like funky and emo. How do you defend against that?

 

 

You don't. You shrug it off and laugh. Defensiveness makes you look guilty. THEN I start tunneling...

[Ithillian Turambar]

Good grief Lenlo. Wasn't that on page 2?

 

Lmao.

 

Old school BT mafia at its best :)

[Lenlo]

  On 4/9/2016 at 3:50 PM, Ithillian Turambar said:

Good grief Lenlo. Wasn't that on page 2?

 

Lmao.

 

Old school BT mafia at its best :)

Im catchin up from the beginnin ok. Gotta read EVERYTHIN

[Cory Caboose]

  On 4/8/2016 at 11:48 PM, Eldrick4221 said:

Autocorrect makes me say things I didn't Nintendo.

 

   

[Hallia]

Morning all!  Fever is gone and I feel human again, gonna finish my catch-up.

[Lenlo]

  On 4/7/2016 at 12:26 PM, cory caboose said:

 

  On 4/7/2016 at 11:56 AM, John McClane said:

I can't believe you just compared me to Darthe. He's a trainwreck.

 

I'm an aggressive player, but I don't do illogical, self-serving, dumb shyt that screws the entire town over. LOL

 

 

I like Darthe :(

[Hallia]

Up through 20, almost thereeeeee.

 

Niniel - I see what you mean in regards to Tsuki, with the Eldrick interaction.  

 

P19:

 

I dislike Zander's response to Ape (John) That he read the game when asked what questions he'd been asked.  That doesn't seem normal Zander to me.

  On 4/8/2016 at 12:02 AM, Zander said:

 

  On 4/7/2016 at 6:37 PM, John McClane said:

 

  On 4/7/2016 at 6:20 PM, Zander said:

 

Ive asked you some other questions in my catch up, would you mind answering them please?

 

Give me a recap of your questions and I'll be happy to, I'm not pouring over that crap - be direct, don't weave questions you expect answers to into multi-quotes and commentary directed at different people. 

Read the game imo.

Annnnnnd then this.

  On 4/8/2016 at 12:06 AM, Zander said:

@Dice and Nini?

 

Please stop hiding thoughts in like page long posts.

 

Its very hard to respond to and it looks like its an easy place for things to be hidden and that tends to be something more likely to come from Scum.

Um.....didn't you just ....

 

P20:

 

Eldrick says that Zander comparing his town game to his scum game is a town thing? Um, why?

 

Below: Zander asking others to do things for him is odd, and not like him.

 

  On 4/8/2016 at 3:07 AM, Zander said:

 

  On 4/8/2016 at 2:46 AM, Eldrick4221 said:

I don't like this vote. I'll have to go check, but I don't remember you having a problem with turin.

You saw dice's progression on him, and felt better about dice, but now you're also suddenly convinced Turin is the way to go?

 

lmk what you come up with

[Lenlo]

 

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Pgs 1-3 - Some jokes. Laine trying to get to know people she doesnt. Dice with the weird ghost joke. Pg 3, Zander shows up.

 

Pg 4-5 - Zander bothers Rey to describe his town and wolf game. Shad weighs in on Zanders meta. I agree with him.

 

Pg 6-7 - RTE shows up. Some jokes. McClane, now Hallia, votes Zander because hes always saying lets lynch wolves. Its not bad considering he doesnt know Zander. Calls Laine silly. Tsuki comes in and says Laines opening is funky. Tsukis intro is... weird. I have no problem with Dice's opening, its not TMI to me its just a joke (#136).

 

Pg 8 - Disagree with Zanders read of Dice. Its not a locked in town read, its a simple lean (#142). McClanes reason is better then Zanders imo. McClanes slot is town at this point.Dice no longer a fan of Zander simply because of his vote? eeeh (#154). Dice is really overreacting with this defense though imo (#155). Really over defensive.

 

Pg 9-10 - Dice doesnt remember McClanes vote, even though it was the first one in the game. Dice is really weird atm (#165). Eldrick votes Shad (#169). No big deal. Turins vote isnt... bad? Just not good (#186). Laines catchup is good (#188). Eldrick claims Ghost? (#198).

 

Pg 11-12 - Dice continues to be over reacty (#219). Eldrick unvotes Shad because they share a town read? (#220). Dice refuses to answer a question (#221). Eldrick calls both Johns and Turins pushes bad without giving compelling reasons (#223). Seriously? He thinks hes going to enjoy playing with someone so they are teammates? (#226). If I didnt already know you claimed cop, id be all over you.

 

At this point:

Town:

Me!

Tsuki - By virtue of cop claim

McClane/Hallia

 

Town Lean:

Turin

Zander

Shad?

 

Null:

Laine

Niniel

BFG

Rey

RTE

 

Wolf Lean:

Eldrick

Dice

 

Pg 13 - I agree with McClane. Dice is was really defensive over small things (#245). Tsuki is also really aggressive. Hes biting Eldrick over every little thing, like hees just looking something to pounce on (#247-250). If Tsuki wasnt a claimed cop he would be soooooo wolfy.

 

Pg 14-18 - I disagree with McClane here, this logic only works if your case against dice is bad (#267). If its bad and they follow you, they are just looking for a lynch. But Dice hasnt been reacting well. Rey is town to me (#275). Agree with Shad (#290). Everyone seems to forget Casper was a nice ghost. :(. Ill weight that into his read Shad, but hes really iffy to me (#306). Niniel joins the Tsuki wagon. With Tsuki being cop is this bad? (#337). 

 

Gonna be honest around here my eyes glazed over for afew pages. There was nothing interesting just... uuuuugh. Most interesting thing was Dice getting pissy at John.

 

I have some problem with Eldricks read of me here. Yeah im low content for maybe... 10 pages. But 3 days? 3 DAYS of NOTHING?! In no world is this accurate, it kinda bugs me (#419). 

 

Finally something interesting.

Pg 22 - Turin hardclaims Town Neighbor (#437). Its a good post about neighbors. Neighbors dont have to be W/T, they can be T/T, or W/W if there are two wolf teams. Zanders change on Turin and just.. its weird. Tsuki claims cop UGH (#449). His post of (4 people voted me, stats says 1 must be scum), thats crap. Gamblers Fallacy. The odds for any of them being a wolf are the same. I could take any group of 4 in the game and make the same claim. How does Tsuki know wolves have fake claims? Where did this come from? Is Tsuki lying? I disagree with Dice tha Zander flipping town makes Turin dead (#454). Id lynch you over Turin. 

 

Pg 26-27 - Didnt want to talk about the game outside the game? Its a QT dude... (#502). Also no, you should have used the QT. Cant trust him, so refuse to talk to him? Is that what you do? I dont believe it. Agree with Rey here (#540)

 

More eye glazing. 

 

 

Gonna be frank, skipped the last 3 pages cause eyes glazing.

 

Where I am: 

Town:

Me!

Tsuki - By virtue of cop claim, really stupid kinda suspect.

Turin - Believe his claim, even if Zander flips town I think the claim and the push come from a town mindset.

McClane/Hallia

 

Town Lean:

Rey

Laine

Shad

 

Null:

 

Niniel

BFG

RTE

 

Wolf Lean:

Eldrick

Dice

Zander

 

These are ordered within the sublists themselves.

 

[v] Zander[/v]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Lenlo]

Also that catchup is in no way formatted or setup to be a case. Its just a stream of consciousness of things I noticed and wrote down as I caught up. Read it or dont, you do you.

[Lenlo]

I really need to stop doing this, its so lazy, but joke phases are the initial start is just so boooooooring.

[Hallia]

P21:

 

I like Laine's catch-up.  I don't agree with a lot of her reads in the paragraph-style read list though. 

 

Same with Eldrick, at the bottom of 21.  I like people that are willing to give actual reads list, and let me know where they stand.

 

 

And then Page 22....the Turin/Zander thing starts.  I feel like with my early points on Zander, and with how Turin goes about this whole thing that I will

 

Vote: Zander

[Ithillian Turambar]

 

Official Vote Count - Day 1

 

Turin (1/7): Zander

Zander (5/7): Turin, Rey, RTE, Lenlo, Hallia

Dice (1/7): Eldrick

Alanna (1/7): Tsuki

 

 

Not voting

 

(5)- BFG, Dice, Niniel, Shad, Alanna

 

 

With 13 alive it takes 7 to achieve a majority Lynch.

 

Day 1 deadline is set for Wednesday 14 April @ 9 PM BST

 

Day 1 Deadline Countdown

[Ithillian Turambar]

Zander is at L-2

[Zander?]

  On 4/9/2016 at 5:27 PM, Hallia said:

 

P21:

 

I like Laine's catch-up.  I don't agree with a lot of her reads in the paragraph-style read list though. 

 

Same with Eldrick, at the bottom of 21.  I like people that are willing to give actual reads list, and let me know where they stand.

 

 

And then Page 22....the Turin/Zander thing starts.  I feel like with my early points on Zander, and with how Turin goes about this whole thing that I will

 

Vote: Zander

 

 

So here are Hallia's points on me:

 

 

 

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  On 4/9/2016 at 3:00 AM, Hallia said:

 

  On 4/8/2016 at 11:47 PM, Eldrick4221 said:

I really don't know what to think about tsuki. Not voting him because of the claim. Understand why he did it now if he really is the cop, if RL is about to get busy.

 

But it bugs me that he is avoiding my question.

Is he avoiding?  Or is he doing what he said he was doing, being unavailable?  Was your question from before that?

 

  On 4/8/2016 at 11:57 PM, alannalynn said:

 

  On 4/9/2016 at 12:02 AM, Zander said:

 

  On 4/8/2016 at 11:59 PM, Eldrick4221 said:

I still don't like how dice suggested we vote between you 2 right off the bat. He later mentioned that he wanted to hear discussion between you 2, but that's not how he started.

 

And I'm also very curious how niniel knew you were anon on your qt. Iirc she's the first to mention it.

 

Im pretty sure Turin mentioned it.

 

If it came before that tho we should prolly lynch her and Turin.

 

Did you ever get an answer from this?

 

I"m gonna try and settle down for a reread if this fever lets me. 

 

 

Red- This is funny considering later you come back with you said it felt odd?

 

Why did you ask and not comment about it then?

 

 

  On 4/9/2016 at 3:37 AM, Hallia said:

Ok, so upon reread I'm limiting how many quotes I do before I pause, in the hopes that they are easier to read, lmk

 

Up to Page 9

 

  On 4/6/2016 at 10:19 PM, Shad_ said:

Well, that was more direct than I expected.

 

I'd say you can read Zander decently by his cases. He'll throw out gut/tone stuff a lot, but he'll bring it together with conviction or the appearance of it sooner or later, and if you're scratching your head more than nodding along he's probably a wolf.

I would say this is accurate.

  On 4/7/2016 at 1:27 AM, Zander said:

 

  On 4/7/2016 at 1:18 AM, John McClane said:

 

heh, interesting... so, tell me more about this vote you put on dice, I'm not sure I'm following your accusation in the post you quoted

 

He gave me a pretty easy Town read,  Dice has played a lot of games with me.  He should well know that Ive done nothing so far that I couldnt have as Scum. 

 

He threw a pretty easy read to through out there.  It reads to me like he knows Im Town but doesnt want to much work into progressing the read if that makes sense. I know Dice likes tor read Tone and is a gut read player but I feel like Dice should still be more suspicious of me atp.

 

I also tend to find jokey Dice to be scummy more often then not.  That being said I know he can be jokey as Town as well so this is more of a feel for me but when I factor in the other things he doesnt sit right with me atp.

 

I am finding myself nodding along thus far.

 

  On 4/7/2016 at 6:24 AM, BFG said:

Morning

 

Zander's early seriousness is probably a good look for him?

 

And I like Dice's tone on this page, but it's all defence so I'm not sure how indicative it is of anything

Wouldn't you say that Zander is serious in EVERY game?  Also, What did you like about Dices early tone, it reads to me as very defensive.

 

Agrees with Shad's point yet its none of the reason's shes using for her vote or read.

 

Another one her points against me is that she agrees with me?

 

And she says Im serious in every game.

 

  On 4/9/2016 at 4:58 PM, Hallia said:

 

Up through 20, almost thereeeeee.

 

Niniel - I see what you mean in regards to Tsuki, with the Eldrick interaction.  

 

P19:

 

I dislike Zander's response to Ape (John) That he read the game when asked what questions he'd been asked.  That doesn't seem normal Zander to me.

  On 4/8/2016 at 12:02 AM, Zander said:

 

  On 4/7/2016 at 6:37 PM, John McClane said:

 

  On 4/7/2016 at 6:20 PM, Zander said:

 

Ive asked you some other questions in my catch up, would you mind answering them please?

 

Give me a recap of your questions and I'll be happy to, I'm not pouring over that crap - be direct, don't weave questions you expect answers to into multi-quotes and commentary directed at different people. 

Read the game imo.

Annnnnnd then this.

  On 4/8/2016 at 12:06 AM, Zander said:

@Dice and Nini?

 

Please stop hiding thoughts in like page long posts.

 

Its very hard to respond to and it looks like its an easy place for things to be hidden and that tends to be something more likely to come from Scum.

Um.....didn't you just ....

 

P20:

 

Eldrick says that Zander comparing his town game to his scum game is a town thing? Um, why?

 

Below: Zander asking others to do things for him is odd, and not like him.

 

  On 4/8/2016 at 3:07 AM, Zander said:

 

  On 4/8/2016 at 2:46 AM, Eldrick4221 said:

I don't like this vote. I'll have to go check, but I don't remember you having a problem with turin.

You saw dice's progression on him, and felt better about dice, but now you're also suddenly convinced Turin is the way to go?

 

lmk what you come up with

 

 

Also the multiquote thing your talking about was Dice and Nina's full page one with like 4 words compared to the 2 quote one with 2 small responses.  Mine was clear and easy to address.

 

 

 

What am I missing Hallia cause the only thing you say is that you like how Turin went about it but nothing for or against what Ive done.

 

I dont get this at all.

[Zander?]

So I go from town lean to scum lean over my "change on Turin"  for Lenlo.

 

Show me what youre talking about, you say yourself you it isnt a case yet youre voting.

 

Show me how you come to this conclusion please.

[Zander?]

  On 4/9/2016 at 5:46 PM, Ithillian Turambar said:

Official Vote Count - Day 1

 

Turin (1/7): Zander

Zander (5/7): Turin, Rey, RTE, Lenlo, Hallia

Dice (1/7): Eldrick

Alanna (1/7): Tsuki

 

 

Not voting

 

(5)- BFG, Dice, Niniel, Shad, Alanna

 

 

With 13 alive it takes 7 to achieve a majority Lynch.

 

Day 1 deadline is set for Wednesday 14 April @ 9 PM BST

 

Day 1 Deadline Countdown

 

I mean the fact there's no other Train should be pretty telling imo.

[Turin Turambar]

Obviously I'm not gonna support a vote on me. You make a good case on someone else and I will look at it.

 

I think we have days to deadline.

[Niniel]

  On 4/9/2016 at 3:49 PM, Tsukibana said:

 

  On 4/9/2016 at 3:07 PM, Niniel said:

 

  On 4/9/2016 at 3:46 AM, Hallia said:

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Continue to read and you will see. He tried to made Laine look suspicous with words like funky and emo. How do you defend against that?

 

 

You don't. You shrug it off and laugh. Defensiveness makes you look guilty. THEN I start tunneling...

 

 

I think this is a bad tactic if you are town. 

 

  On 4/9/2016 at 4:34 PM, Hallia said:

Morning all!  Fever is gone and I feel human again, gonna finish my catch-up.

 

Great that you are feeling better. 

 

 

Just want to re-post this. I´d like to know what it is about. 

  On 4/9/2016 at 3:09 PM, Niniel said:

I´d like if someone could make it clear to me what lie in the qt (about Dice?) you are talking about. I´ve read back but I still don´t get it. 

[Lenlo]

  On 4/9/2016 at 5:48 PM, Zander said:

So I go from town lean to scum lean over my "change on Turin"  for Lenlo.

 

Show me what youre talking about, you say yourself you it isnt a case yet youre voting.

 

Show me how you come to this conclusion please.

I dont know why you had a town lean on me in the first place, considering I wasnt here.

 

Am I not allowed to agree with someone elses case? No, that catchup is not a case. Yes Turins Neighbor QT and points against you are still valid. Yes I agree with them. Its you or Dice today for me. 

[Lenlo]

Sorry misread that.

 

You go from town lean to scum lean because of Turins case on you and then reaction to it. Thats about 90% of the switch, yes.

[dicetosser1]

  On 4/9/2016 at 3:09 PM, Niniel said:

I´d like if someone could make it clear to me what lie in the qt (about Dice?) you are talking about. I´ve read back but I still don´t get it. 

 

their basically arguing over who sussed me first