90's Action Hero Mafia - Game Over - Mafia Wins

[Nynaeve]

@Lenlo

@Tigraine

[Ithillian Turambar]

Chat GPT knows all about Mafia.

[Ithillian Turambar]

Don't you weird face me Mr Pirate. I'm not allowed to talk to Turin about the game unless it's in the game.

[Ironeyes]

  On 4/20/2025 at 6:12 PM, keyholder21 said:

 

This inclusion of Turin seems weird, especially since Turin hasn't posted in awhile.

 

 

First bold - Okay, sure, ask him I guess, but why did you also not ask other people who have played in the other games with him? Or ask Ithi, who observed him as mod in those games??

 

Second bold - I get that, but also, people get invested and just don't want to die lol.  This is something I think I'm better at now that I'm older but I definitely got attached way back when.

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1: Idk, Turin at the time was one of the only people openly trying to start making reads so he was top of mind 

 

First bold: Heavy said it was his "style" that gets him read as mafia frequently, and I wanted clarification.

 

Second bold: Yeah, people get attached. People with something to lose get attached more easily. As rando vanilla townie, if I die I die and the survivors learn some things. It's not a bit deal on D1. As vanilla scum, if I die my team is down 25-50% of its membership and my death potentially clears the townies who killed me. There's a big mismatch of incentives there. 

[ed2funy]

  On 4/20/2025 at 8:40 PM, Turin Turambar said:

Ed claiming he's "definitely not" the third party, lol

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Unironically. If only there were a jester 

[ed2funy]

  On 4/20/2025 at 8:41 PM, DPR said:

*cough*

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DPR admitting he’s 3P (I learned a new term) 

[DPR]

  On 4/20/2025 at 8:45 PM, Ithillian Turambar said:

Don't you weird face me Mr Pirate. I'm not allowed to talk to Turin about the game unless it's in the game.

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Y’all are gonna make googly eyes at each other next lol

[DPR]

  On 4/20/2025 at 8:47 PM, ed2funy said:

DPR admitting he’s 3P (I learned a new term) 

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It was actually Turin soft claiming 3p, but you’re rusty and he’s not serious anyway, just setting another trap lol. 

[Ironeyes]

  On 4/20/2025 at 7:11 PM, Ithillian Turambar said:

God I hate that you made me go back to find this and now you've just dipped out.

 

See ^^^

 

Also I am still very much feeling that Heavy might be Mafia. As you can see, in his more recent posts, he is perfectly capable of posting in regular sentences. 

 

I still feel that his initial posts were overly crafted and careful to say nothing at all and I'm not sure why a Town person would feel they needed to be that careful. 

 

But then the sudden pop up defence from Marsh made him far more interesting.

 

Damage control?

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Interesting that so many of you guys are interpreting my stance on Heavy as a defense. In my mind, I was pulling back from an initial attack on him out of fear that I was about to lead a vicious lynch of a new player much like what happened to me in my first ever mafia game (Mistborn Mafia, might still be up on the forums somewhere). Perhaps I didn't make my suspicion clear enough before the pullback.
 

  On 4/20/2025 at 8:03 PM, Turin Turambar said:

The 'joke" vote that never changes without reasoning is a thing that generally draws scrutiny to the person doing it. Fair enough?

 

I was confused about this also. I thought it could be this but wasn't sure. Good to know. 

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Fair. That's what I intended to communicate originally.

[Nynaeve]

  On 4/20/2025 at 8:46 PM, Ironeyes said:

1: Idk, Turin at the time was one of the only people openly trying to start making reads so he was top of mind 

 

First bold: Heavy said it was his "style" that gets him read as mafia frequently, and I wanted clarification.

 

Second bold: Yeah, people get attached. People with something to lose get attached more easily. As rando vanilla townie, if I die I die and the survivors learn some things. It's not a bit deal on D1. As vanilla scum, if I die my team is down 25-50% of its membership and my death potentially clears the townies who killed me. There's a big mismatch of incentives there. 

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Logically you're correct.

 

But players that play from the heart and are passionate and highly motivated will stir up all kinds of hell at the prospect of getting mislynched, even as vanilla town. I know from my own past experience. It often stems from frustration... I wouldn't be all laid back and chill taking comfort in my demise would give info.

 

Being nked, on the other hand, was usually fine lol

[Turin Turambar]

  On 4/20/2025 at 8:48 PM, DPR said:

Y’all are gonna make googly eyes at each other next lol

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[Turin Turambar]

  On 4/20/2025 at 8:46 PM, Ironeyes said:

1: Idk, Turin at the time was one of the only people openly trying to start making reads so he was top of mind 

 

First bold: Heavy said it was his "style" that gets him read as mafia frequently, and I wanted clarification.

 

Second bold: Yeah, people get attached. People with something to lose get attached more easily. As rando vanilla townie, if I die I die and the survivors learn some things. It's not a bit deal on D1. As vanilla scum, if I die my team is down 25-50% of its membership and my death potentially clears the townies who killed me. There's a big mismatch of incentives there. 

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I wanted to reply to this last part. I kinda felt like that in the past but it is a bad mindset in my opinion. If your town, you should fight tooth and nail to stay alive. Look for things that can clear you, try to punch holes in the case against you, hunt harder and make a case against someone you think is mafia. At the worst you might lead to a mafia lynch after you are dead. 

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Although, once you are dead people stop listening to you, so lololololol. 

 

[Ironeyes]

  On 4/20/2025 at 8:56 PM, Nynaeve said:

Logically you're correct.

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[Ironeyes]

  On 4/20/2025 at 8:56 PM, Nynaeve said:

 

Logically you're correct.

 

But players that play from the heart and are passionate and highly motivated will stir up all kinds of hell at the prospect of getting mislynched, even as vanilla town. I know from my own past experience. It often stems from frustration... I wouldn't be all laid back and chill taking comfort in my demise would give info.

 

Being nked, on the other hand, was usually fine lol

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  On 4/20/2025 at 9:08 PM, Turin Turambar said:

I wanted to reply to this last part. I kinda felt like that in the past but it is a bad mindset in my opinion. If your town, you should fight tooth and nail to stay alive. Look for things that can clear you, try to punch holes in the case against you, hunt harder and make a case against someone you think is mafia. At the worst you might lead to a mafia lynch after you are dead. 

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Although, once you are dead people stop listening to you, so lololololol. 

 

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These are both accurate and good qualifiers to my core position. They modify the central analysis for me, though, they don't replace it 

[Ironeyes]

I also have a history of being scummy as town lol, so I had to come to peace with getting lynched 

[Turin Turambar]

  On 4/20/2025 at 9:14 PM, Ironeyes said:

I also have a history of being scummy as town lol, so I had to come to peace with getting lynched 

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Well I'm apparently the wolfiest SoaB to ever exist so hold my beer, lol

[Nynaeve]

Oh shit

We forgot krak!

[Ithillian Turambar]

Well no. I messaged him. He did read the message and said hi, but didn't post.

 

Maybe he is busy.

[DPR]

Here’s my thoughts on a WTL list so far: 

 

@Tigraine has the scummiest post imo with her fly-by. 
 

@HeavyHalfMoonBlade attracted the most attention so far with some less-than-subtle posts. He seems to have calmed down, which makes it worse and my overwhelming sense is that he’s nervous. 
 

@Ironeyes did feel like he was defending Heavy a bit. 
 

@ed2funy also posted that he suspects Heavy was a fox and not a wolf. 
 

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My nullish list:

 

@Turin Turambar is much more calm than last game. Could be a number of things. Needs watching. 
 

@Verbal32 is slanking as per his usual. Needs more heat than he got last game.

 

@Lenlo is a no-show so far. 
 

@RandA lThor I didn’t love his posts about Nyn. We need to see more from this slot. 
 

@dicetosser1 Spammy but I don’t hate his tone so far. I’m not a fan of the non-game stuff in the game thread but it’s not the end of the world. 
 

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My town core so far: 

 

@keyholder21 I’m seeing effort and thoughtful, game-solving oriented posts so far. 
 

@Ithillian Turambar Seems a little nervous, but overall solvish oriented posts. 
 

@Nynaeve Active and investigative. Very solvish oriented. 
 

 

[Turin Turambar]

Ooohh! I'm null. Yay me. 

[DPR]

  On 4/20/2025 at 11:16 PM, Turin Turambar said:

Ooohh! I'm null. Yay me. 

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Nullish. Needs watching.  
 

Hit me with your reads. 

[Turin Turambar]

Presently reading Crossroads of Twilight,  lolololololol 

 

This game???

 

Town to.not so.much

Me: I'm town

Nyn: looking at the right things and just feels town

Ithi: very attention to detail and willing to jump at what she sees. Willing to admit errors. My memory is MAFIA!Ithi just plows along .

 

 

Key: Asking questions, seems to be focused, but I have tinfoil.

 

Lenlo: nothing of note

Tigraine: nothing of note. The single post meant nothing to me.

 

Rand: posted a bit saying nothing. Might mean something,  might mean nothing.

Verb: spanking Verb is slanking

DPR: bad feeling. Tis late here but I will try to flesh it out for you in the morning 

 

Heavy: his initial posts felt "fake". like he was trying to sound like his previous games, but wasn't.  

Ed: seemed to be nudging at Heavy but waffling. I thought it potentially day 1 distancing from a teammate. 

Ironeyes: He says he didn't but I think he did defend Heavy by giving himself (and thus Heavy) an out

Dice: Anti-town behaviour of lynching for lols. It seems hypocritical from someone who rails against his meme of being lynched while asleep. He engaged in anti Town behaviour last game and was mafia. 

 

Currently willing to lynch from Lenlo on down. 

 

[Turin Turambar]

UNVOTE 

VOTE: DICE

 

My first choice for mafia

[Turin Turambar]

Oh my! I just saw the typo. What have I done?

[dicetosser1]

  On 4/20/2025 at 10:32 AM, Ithillian Turambar said:

Also mentioning this because for Lols would be ok if you were not actually voting him at this point. But you are.

 

Lols is a way to deflect from your vote? Did you vote him cos you thought he was Mafia or cos it was easy to follow along? 

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lol is for lols I don’t need to deflect anything as I could have just not done it in the first place.

 

 

  On 4/20/2025 at 12:15 PM, Nynaeve said:

 

I just remembered Wombat. Too bad he isn't playing. I remember he was pretty cool.

 

Ntw is that a serious vote? Hard to tell from your post. 

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nope not serious. Said as much

 

  On 4/20/2025 at 12:23 PM, Nynaeve said:

 

Hi dice.

Y.

Poo.

Are you gonna make me sad this game?

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not unless you’re scum.

 

  On 4/20/2025 at 1:16 PM, Turin Turambar said:

This is Ironeyes first post.

How does Dice know he's a lawyery-type person?

 

Heavy, if you are town, maybe more zen Heavy and less RP Heavy. The latter muddies your intentions and imo detracts from your perceptive abilities. 

 

Currently agreeing with Nyn about Ithi leaning town, Dice and Ironeyes leaning mafia.

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Also wombat best rodent, lol

 

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yes I know other people have responded but this is literally what my response was going to be

 

”have you read anything I do with this game? Including the sign ups”
 

 

  On 4/20/2025 at 1:50 PM, DPR said:

nope

 

 

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that’s gonna be me if people keep calling me diceypoo in any form

 

seriously. DONT.
 

 

  On 4/20/2025 at 2:43 PM, RandA lThor said:

Checking in so I'm not completely AWOL, I'll catch up more today!

 

Nyn's probably scum

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why?
 

 

  On 4/20/2025 at 5:37 PM, RandA lThor said:

Caught up!

 

Have given some tells that I need to figure out: Nyn, Ithi, Turin, Ironeyes, Dice, Heavy

 

The rest including me a lil more quiet and vibing. Could obviously be due to IRL reasons like myself, but Id wager scum are split between the two groups.

 

Heavy read initially to me as discombobulated town... but maybe Im too trusting

 

Ithi's reasoning post felt like it had some gems in it, one way or the other.

 

There is, I feel as much as possible from current info, less chance that all of Dice, Ironeyes, and Heavy are all town.

 

Will ruminate more, and get back to the wedding Im supposed to be at in the mean time 😂

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am I the only one finding this post to really say nothing?

names the more visible players then says scum is split between them and the quiet ones.

 

is this sposed to be a revelation?

 

then names three people from the first group to have scum in it yet he’s not even been here?

 

and everything seems to be double backed 

 

ithis post has gems “one way or another”

 

less chance that all of three people are town

 

then there the nyn thing.  Above I asked him why

 

nyns responses made me think it’s a joke

 

then he voted.  Then he invited. But the only time he mentions her here is to list her in the first group?

 

 

  On 4/20/2025 at 6:17 PM, keyholder21 said:

 

Bold - How did you know this??

 

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I can read and I was in all of heavy’s games that ithi modded so knew what he was talking about

 

 

  On 4/20/2025 at 7:11 PM, Zander? said:

 

Not happy with Night 1 at all!!!!!!

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It’s still Tiffy Time tho!!

 

and Heyman!!! OMG! 🤯

 

 

  On 4/20/2025 at 7:40 PM, Nynaeve said:

 

"Sustained" was in reply to Marsh answering my question. I was joking, using court slang. it's when a lawyer raises an objection to the judge amd the judge accepts it. I guess I'm not as funny as I thought 😜 

 

As for dice, I'm willing to call it a feeling right now. It started with him lightly shading me for joke voting him around the time Marsh did.

 

Then his reaction to heavy isn't exactly what I'd expect, I suppose. I would think dice would be more understanding to a noob losing it from possibly mere inexperience and/or an inherent tendency to be a scummy player regardless of rand. This is of course loosely based on my impression thus far and is contingent to that impression being correct, but his lol welcome to mafia, I'd lynch you cause you've never been lynched before... dunno.

 

Plus, and this could be me just being extremly self centered (lol), but considering I haven't played in over two years, that he got me to sign up, and factoring in our usual dynamics in games, I feel like he's being a bit stand offish with me thus far. Ie might be keeping a bit of a distance. Begs the question, why? I'm pretty awesome.

 

In any case, I'd really like him to place an actual serious vote. Cause the shift from Marsh to heavy isn't doing it for me. If he actually gave the impression that he was suss of heavy then I prolly wouldn't mind it. But that's not the case. 

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re the heavy thing I’ve played every game heavy has. So has Turin.  With his little bit about never getting lynched I figure I’ve got. Licence to play with him a bit

 

as for you?  Considering I’ve had you town from like your first or second post? I don’t need to distance from you. I just haven’t interacted much yet.

 

and let’s be honest…. If I was all gooey and love ya nyn! You’d lynch me.

 

 

  On 4/20/2025 at 7:49 PM, Turin Turambar said:

My reads are based on opinions of town behaviour from Ithi and Nyn. The questioning, and looking at little things from Ithi. General tone and something I've forgotten from Nyn. I'll have to look back. Dice said he would be willing to lynch Heavy regardless of alignment. That is antitown behaviour.  He engaged in anti Town behaviour last game and was mafia. Ironeyes did seem to be defending Heavy. Regardless of Heavy's alignment it seems early to defend anyone. 

 

My activity is down in part because I'm a bit broken from last game. I'm taking it a little slower while I settle in. Also, I've been watching ALL OF THE REACTIONS to episode 8, which has been enjoyable and enlightening. But that's for another thread.

 

I admit I didn't really follow the sign up too closely for above reasons. I also wanted to hear his response directly.

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  On 4/20/2025 at 8:05 PM, Turin Turambar said:

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It was in the sign up thread???

Lololololol 

 

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so you DID read the signups then.

 

tell me now if your gonna start this town testing crap so I can save myself the blow up and start ignoring you now.

Be clear you pull that on me in ANY game and I will not play along no matter what my alignment.