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  On 1/1/2022 at 6:05 PM, Dagon Thyne said:

Did they ever show any hint of him stealing it?  Cause it was at the White Tower.  Moiraine had it after healing him.  When did he steal it and do you think they will show it in a flashback?

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I imagine that will be shown in a flashback, we know that the last 2 episodes had to be re written because Matt was not available so it is possible that will be shown with the new Matt Actor, possibly as the motivation for him chasing after Fain and then meeting up with Perrin. 

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  On 1/1/2022 at 6:05 PM, Dagon Thyne said:

Did they ever show any hint of him stealing it?  Cause it was at the White Tower.  Moiraine had it after healing him.  When did he steal it and do you think they will show it in a flashback?

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I imagine if Mat hadn't left it would have been revealed in Episode 7 that he still had the dagger due to needing further healing.  Then in Episode 8 Fain would have stolen it from him and stabbed him (Which I believe happened in TGH, haven't read it in a while).

So I think we'll get some heavy Flashback in Season 2 for the new Mat.

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Ok but back to predictions...it seems like with Moiraine's Season 1 ending they want to speed up the plot and raise the stakes of encounters with baddies. In the books it takes a long time before there are major losses for any main characters. Based on that I believe Moiraine is currently stilled and not just shielded, and Siuan's deposition will arrive sooner and I think may end in death rather than stilling.

 

Jeffy B wants the next Game of Thrones...and that show got a lot more popular after Ned's execution and the Red Wedding, primarily because viewers realized that good characters who did all the right things were not protected from bad endings. I don't think WoT will be nearly as violent as GoT but I predict at least one non-book death in Season 2, and I think Siuan is the most likely.

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  On 1/3/2022 at 2:39 AM, ForsakenPotato said:

I don't think WoT will be nearly as violent as GoT but I predict at least one non-book death in Season 2, and I think Siuan is the most likely.

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Making the Forsaken just a smidgen more competent would be fun, I think.

 

Or, perhaps I'm mistaken.  What if RJ wanted the Dark One and his Minions to be incompetent, not just to avoid having someone with half a brain as a protagonist (and instead concentrate on the problems of the sewage system in Tear or whatever) but to suggest that they're not evil, just stupid?

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I like in the books that the foresaken are often scheming against each other as well the protagonists -- it's an effective way to demonstrate that their evilness mostly stems from selfishness, they each want to get ahead of everyone including each other. I hope they keep that dynamic in the show, and it does sometimes explain why they aren't effective. But yeah, when a foresaken spends multiple books in the close vicinity of a main character and the main threat seems to be...headaches? Wouldn't mind something a little more fearsome!

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  On 1/3/2022 at 2:39 AM, ForsakenPotato said:

Ok but back to predictions...it seems like with Moiraine's Season 1 ending they want to speed up the plot and raise the stakes of encounters with baddies. In the books it takes a long time before there are major losses for any main characters. Based on that I believe Moiraine is currently stilled and not just shielded, and Siuan's deposition will arrive sooner and I think may end in death rather than stilling.

 

Jeffy B wants the next Game of Thrones...and that show got a lot more popular after Ned's execution and the Red Wedding, primarily because viewers realized that good characters who did all the right things were not protected from bad endings. I don't think WoT will be nearly as violent as GoT but I predict at least one non-book death in Season 2, and I think Siuan is the most likely.

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I think we'll be okay for season 2, since someone's noble sacrifice at the end will carry the weight.  I don't think Siuan will be killed in season 2, since that would lose them the ability to show her reaction to FoH. I also think she has a major role to fulfill in season 8

 

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If they do kill someone to snip out an entire B plot, then I expect it will be Morgase, as a means of dropping her entire arc.

 

 

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  On 1/17/2022 at 5:35 PM, EmreY said:

 

Making the Forsaken just a smidgen more competent would be fun, I think.

 

Or, perhaps I'm mistaken.  What if RJ wanted the Dark One and his Minions to be incompetent, not just to avoid having someone with half a brain as a protagonist (and instead concentrate on the problems of the sewage system in Tear or whatever) but to suggest that they're not evil, just stupid?

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They've already done that; if they do go with the 8 instead of the 13, the average success rate per Forsaken goes up significantly, because it's the ineffective / unimportant ones who get dropped. Aside from Asmodean - who has one specific function in the story that depends on his incompetence - would give the remaining ones marks ranging from B- to A+ in terms of villainy

 

I think what RJ was going for in this is that the Forsaken are only human, and not even the best / worst of humanity.  In a lot of ways, they're about the banality of evil, and not the threat of EVIL!

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Cold Open will like involve Mat for E1.  They will want o quickly show what happened after Moiraine sent her message.

 

He likely is still connected to the dagger, which sets up the plot.  I get the feeling that season two will more closely follow the book plot than season 1 did.  The gurls go back to Tar Valon, Moiraines sends Min to act as a contact between her and Suian, they meet Elayne, Galad and Gawyn,  They get tricked by Liandrin, and end up in Falme. 

 

Uno and the other Shainarans join them because it was their duty to protect the horn.   Mat goes because he needs the dagger to be fully healed.  Rand and Perrin join to help Mat.  They all end up in Falme.

 

Big showdown between Rand and Ishy.  Rand if recognized as the Dragon.  Whether or not the inclde TDR,or part of it is up in the air

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My Season 2 Predictions...or what I'd like to happen? I don't know. Just playing with a story that will keep the actors/actresses all engaged, the locations minimized,

 

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If the show hadn't lost Barney Harris, Mat would have been stabbed in Loial's place and the girls would be taking him back to the Tower for healing and otherwise have a similar arc to here.

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  On 1/25/2022 at 1:14 AM, WhiteVeils said:

My Season 2 Predictions...or what I'd like to happen? I don't know. Just playing with a story that will keep the actors/actresses all engaged, the locations minimized,

 

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If the show hadn't lost Barney Harris, Mat would have been stabbed in Loial's place and the girls would be taking him back to the Tower for healing and otherwise have a similar arc to here.

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I'm extremely curious to see how they pull off the Mat-switch. I'm probably being too expectant, but I don't care. Great predictions!

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  On 1/25/2022 at 3:42 AM, Pukel-man said:

I know one that that won't happen in season two - Rand can't defeat High Lord Turok in an epic sword duel. He hasn't had a shred of training with that heron-mark blade, and the only thing he can really do with it is seppuku.

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Could loan the sword to Egwene or Nynaeve! They don’t require any training and are instant blademasters from birth.

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  On 1/25/2022 at 3:42 AM, Pukel-man said:

I know one that that won't happen in season two - Rand can't defeat High Lord Turok in an epic sword duel. He hasn't had a shred of training with that heron-mark blade, and the only thing he can really do with it is seppuku.

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Rand, Mat and Perrin are given rudimentary lessons in the weapons the are carrying by Lan in EotW as the group are fleeing the Two Rivers. Lan only begins training Rand in earnest at the start of The Great Hunt and even then only for a handful of weeks. For basically the entirety of EotW Rand has no real idea what to do with his sword and uses it to bluff being someone much more dangerous than he actually is. The fact that he is capable of duelling Turak and defeating him you can only draw 2 conclusions, either Turak is a terrible Blade Master being defeated by a teenager with a month's training or that Rand is so damn special and awesome that he only needs a handful of weeks training to become expert enough to defeat another expert.

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  On 1/25/2022 at 10:14 AM, Requiem said:

 

Rand, Mat and Perrin are given rudimentary lessons in the weapons the are carrying by Lan in EotW as the group are fleeing the Two Rivers. Lan only begins training Rand in earnest at the start of The Great Hunt and even then only for a handful of weeks. For basically the entirety of EotW Rand has no real idea what to do with his sword and uses it to bluff being someone much more dangerous than he actually is. The fact that he is capable of duelling Turak and defeating him you can only draw 2 conclusions, either Turak is a terrible Blade Master being defeated by a teenager with a month's training or that Rand is so damn special and awesome that he only needs a handful of weeks training to become expert enough to defeat another expert.

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He used the Void and that surely helped him but still.. It is mentioned in some of the books that he learns sword forms and unarmed combat etc. very quickly. Not much different than Galad who has to be shown only once and he can execute the forms perfectly. That's my memory and head canon.

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Pulling off Turok 'logically' is hard.  You can give one person supernaturally received hand to hand skills but giving two completely different characters those skills diminishes both and makes it look like you really believe becoming super good at swords only takes a month or so of training.  If I had to choose only one person who gets supernaturally good at fighting, I'd pick Mat. It's more visual for him and the explanation is very clear.  They made Rand super good with a bow already.  I think we can have time in Tear or among the Aiel to have Rand work on his swording.  But that does leave the problem of Turok.  Considering that Rand immediately follows it with a second big fight vs The Foresaken, making the first kinda forgettable, removing Turok or giving that fight to another makes sense to me.   He can fight a blade Master after Tear if it is important.

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  On 1/25/2022 at 11:45 AM, WhiteVeils said:

the problem of Turok.  Considering that Rand immediately follows it with a second big fight vs The Foresaken, making the first kinda forgettable, removing Turok or giving that fight to another makes sense to me.   He can fight a blade Master after Tear if it is important.

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The first time I read TGH, I thought they were the same person... so I agree.

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  On 1/25/2022 at 11:11 AM, JenniferL said:

I haven’t read that scene in a minute, but I think I recall that Turak is really arrogant and not putting in a full effort and Rand gets really, really, really lucky. 

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At the beginning, Turak plays with Rand who is not using the flame and the void because of the fear of saidin. Actually, he seems to be disgusted by the level of his opponent, if I remember well...but then Rand triggers the void and start the counterattack, at first Turak is surprised, then he also goes all out and Rand wins fair and square.

 

By the way,  I extremely disagree that Falme should changed because Rand has two big fights...that's the cool thing of TGH finale, this crescendo of emotions, with new threats appearing as soon as one seems to be gone, all culminating with Mat blowing the Horn and Rand fighting Balza in the sky while the heroes of the past charge.

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