Tainted Minds - A Black Tower Mafia Game: Game over - Town wins

[Dar'Jen Ab Owain]

BFG, thank you for biting my "rational response". I am trying to remove as much emotional response as possible as I think that us the goal of some of the posting. Let me say something to upset you, and see how upset you get.

 

I am hoping I am evolving, at least some, as a player.

 

It is still difficult for me to point a finger and make an accusation, especially when I do not see a lot of evidence to pull from. Yes, I am a reluctant poster. I do come in and attempt to interact, but there are times when I feel everyone could be speaking a foreign language and I would understand just as much.

 

I am here. I am trying. Hopefully, I am learning.

 

And I could say I am town, and true as it is, the nature of the game would have you doubting those words.

[BFG]

Biting?

 

Ok, can you share thoughts on players, even if they're not reads? Has anyone said anything you liked, has anyone said anything you didn't like?

 

Ignore SK for the moment, what do you think of leyrann or Ben (or someone else if you prefer)

[BFG]

  On 9/18/2017 at 4:44 AM, Gentled Ben said:

 

  On 9/18/2017 at 3:53 AM, Shitsure Kamimashita said:

 

  On 9/18/2017 at 2:44 AM, Gentled Ben said:

Yeah, it seems like anytime someone doesn't understand what he's doing, his default reasoning is that they must be scum.

who is scum ben?

Cory, possibly Nolder for hiding in the N0reads, then going against his own N0 read and jumping on my train for a thin reason.

 

Sorry ben!

[Gentled Ben]

  On 9/18/2017 at 10:12 AM, BFG said:

 

  On 9/18/2017 at 10:06 AM, Gentled Ben said:

 

  On 9/18/2017 at 9:48 AM, BFG said:

 

  On 9/18/2017 at 9:18 AM, Gentled Ben said:

Why does the traitor throw things off?

Because the traitor knows who the mafia are, but not vice versa. So mafia don't know their teammates, and the traitor may try to signal, so teammate dynamics are more complicated than normal

And you think Sooh's wolf read on Clov might be a signal?

No. I think Sooh is town, independently I don't think she's teamed with Chris (regardless of Soohs actual alignment). The possibility that the traitor might signal and not knowing how traitors are likely to act stops me from using the Chris m read to rule out the possibility of them being teamed

 

This makes no sense to me. It looks like you are contradicting yourself by first saying that she's town and not teamed with Chris regardless of her alignment, then because you don't know how a traitor might signal or act, you won't rule out the possibility of them being teamed, even though you said all this in response to my asking if you thought her peek was a signal. 

[BFG]

The simple answer is that yes the peek could be a signal, but I don't think it is

[BFG]

I do not think they are m/m which is what I mean by teamed, but the traitor isn't teamed with mafia the same way, so I dont know what interactions would look like

[Gentled Ben]

Ok, thanks. That makes more sense, then. I don't think they're m/m, either. Chris seems more intent on game solving than he did when I played with him before, and the time I saw Sooh play scum, she lurked. This is more like the town game I saw her in, when she was active and investigating. I think they are likely to both be town.

[Cory Caboose]

  On 9/18/2017 at 9:52 AM, BFG said:

Ben you seem fluffyish this game :/

Indeed

 

And he's not reaching out beyond things that concern him directly

 

I spectated him as a wolf once and he feels similar here

[Cory Caboose]

im gonna be reading, will keep a tab open if anyone wants to chat

[Dar'Jen Ab Owain]

When is the deadline?

 

I'm at work and using my phone which makes posting a bit more challenging, but I will do my best to post in a little while.

[Gentled Ben]

I'm off to bed.

[Cory Caboose]

  On 9/17/2017 at 4:09 PM, Andrej said:

 

Looks like 6 PM E/St

[Cory Caboose]

  On 9/18/2017 at 12:45 PM, Gentled Ben said:

I'm off to bed.

 

goodnight sweet prince

[Cory Caboose]

Does anyone have a decent amount of familiarity with LZM?

[Ironeyes]

Well, I'm back, but it looks like I won't be able to finish this game. Workload piled up too much. I'm reading at top speed right before class starts, up to page 15. So far Nolder doesn't look great cause he's trying to start a train on Sooh based on the disagreement between our stated N0 results even though I openly said I wasn't a cop. I chose that view at random. 

[Cory Caboose]

Before I start going a bit more in depth, my more "baselines" reads from what I remember so far:

BFG

Nolder

LedZep

Niniel

 

DarJen

Leyrann

 

Clov

Sooh

Dice

SK

Iron

Ben

 

not super useful, but a starting point

[Cory Caboose]

Sorry to hear Marsh.

 

Nolder's idea was not a path I particularly wanted to pursue, but not sure I think if it's wolf indicative for him. He's def a more "heteroclitic" type thinker

[Cory Caboose]

In reality Clov is probably inbetween Niniel & DarJen on that list

 

But the fear is real XD

[Cory Caboose]

  On 9/16/2017 at 2:34 AM, Clovdyx said:

 

  On 9/16/2017 at 12:38 AM, Shitsure Kamimashita said:

[v] shitsure kamimashita [/v]

 

  On 9/16/2017 at 12:38 AM, Shitsure Kamimashita said:

I'll be back later.

 

...Yeah, I got nothing for that.

 

after some time, i have decided how I feel about these SK posts. spoilered for length:

 

 

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[Nolder]

  On 9/18/2017 at 1:01 PM, cory caboose said:

Does anyone have a decent amount of familiarity with LZM?

He was mafia in an ongoing game on JN. I've played with him more than I have several others here. Not entirely sure what that is worth read wise though.

[Cory Caboose]

  On 9/18/2017 at 1:23 PM, Nolder said:

 

  On 9/18/2017 at 1:01 PM, cory caboose said:

Does anyone have a decent amount of familiarity with LZM?

He was mafia in an ongoing game on JN. I've played with him more than I have several others here. Not entirely sure what that is worth read wise though.

 

 

My notepad is very confident he is a villager. I am less so on a personal level, but I generally adhere to the notepad, for it is far wiser than me

 

I'm putting a note to peruse some some wolf games for reference before committing to that read

[LedZepMan]

  On 9/18/2017 at 1:27 PM, cory caboose said:

 

  On 9/18/2017 at 1:23 PM, Nolder said:

 

  On 9/18/2017 at 1:01 PM, cory caboose said:

Does anyone have a decent amount of familiarity with LZM?

He was mafia in an ongoing game on JN. I've played with him more than I have several others here. Not entirely sure what that is worth read wise though.

My notepad is very confident he is a villager. I am less so on a personal level, but I generally adhere to the notepad, for it is far wiser than me

 

I'm putting a note to peruse some some wolf games for reference before committing to that read

You're gonna have to travel back to the beginning of DM (are we on V8 now or is it still 7) to find those.

 

I haven't played a scum game on DM since 2011.

[LedZepMan]

Alright. Hate to do it this early, but gonna [unvote] [v]Ben[\v]

 

Phones down to 20% battery, and I'm 250 miles away from my phone charger. I'll pop in every now n again, but my phone will be dead long before DL.

[LedZepMan]

Stoopid

 

[v]Ben[/v]

[BFG]

Cory?