Ghostbusters Mafia - Game Over - Mafia Wins!

[Ithillian Turambar]

I counted 20 posts. This might do it.

[Ithillian Turambar]

Ta daaaaaaah!

[Eldrick4221]

The whole Rey thing is after reading his iso, I got the sense that he was trying to make it look like he was solving without actually putting in the work.

 

His statistic questions also felt to me like casting shade on dice. It might just be coincedence that dice was in both groups, but follow that up with asking 2 people how they felt about dice without giving your own input. I dunno, it's fishy to me.

[ReleaseTheEvil]

I guess. But I feel that was rather early on in the life of this game. So i could accept that he was trying to get things going. Haven't seen anything I'd paint as scummy from him thus far.

[Reyoru]

His statistic questions also felt to me like casting shade on dice. It might just be coincedence that dice was in both groups, but follow that up with asking 2 people how they felt about dice without giving your own input. I dunno, it's fishy to me.

 

You're entitled to your opinion. I personally like to ask people direct questions about their reads on people throughout the game. Its easy to answer if you're a townie. If you're scum, you have to scramble and think "what would a townie think about this person at this time." And it helps trip them up.

[ReleaseTheEvil]

But I mean he did break the thread and that's pretty scummy...

[Eldrick4221]

I'm gonna ponder your response tomorrow at work, rey. I'm currently waiting for my sleeping meds to kick in.

[Eldrick4221]

I guess. But I feel that was rather early on in the life of this game. So i could accept that he was trying to get things going. Haven't seen anything I'd paint as scummy from him thus far.

I had originally found something towny about him, but upon reread can't figure out what it is.

 

My reason is weak and I know that, but it's bugging me and I'm undecided about zander right now.

[ReleaseTheEvil]

I think he handled some early posts towards himself quite well and just has had a very level tone in all his posts, which is nice. Doesn't make him LOCK CLEAR or anything but he's not in my POE either.

 

Fill disclosure I can never remember what POE actually stands for but I'm fairly certain I'm still using it as intended

[Turin Turambar]

Eldrick, what has you undecided about Zander? Not too long ago you stated you were switching to Rey in part ( I assume no small part since you phrased it that way ) to prevent a ninja hammer of zander. That doesn't really read as undecided but more like giving it time.

 

Feels disconnected to me. Worrisome.

[Ithillian Turambar]

POE means you can use a raven or a writing desk and get the same result.

[dicetosser1]

 

Hey guys. Apologies I only had time for a quick post yesterday, my parents made a surprise (!) visit down and the day (while absolutely lovely) kinda disappeared for me here. Re-reading and will post below.

 

 

ive been thinking him town  turin and ive obviously thought u scum  but that hardclaim changes things

 

 

lets say you are mafia   tactically this play makes a little sense but not much. say u get zander lynched  ok thats one townie down but if he flips town ure pretty much a dead man. not a great scum strategy really.

 

lets say ure town    that makes this something you believe for reasons you have given and probably some u havent.  if ure right then if we lynch znader we lynch scum. awesome. but ure probably dead again tonight or tomorrow night if mafia assume ure protected.

 

if ure BOTH town mafia are sitting in their QT laffing.

 

I simply want to work it out.

 

Dice has asked why I think his above post is illogical. He's appearing scummy to me partly because of the chop-logic he's been displaying. Zander's actions on the QT (as described by Turin) have been shady as hell, and the way they've been going at it, and so visibly, I highly highly doubt that they're both town. 

 

Bold above: what on earth does this mean? Yes, that's the way the game is played. Turin's role as a Neighbour has ceased to become effective now that the relationship between Zander and he has broken down. Town will go one for one, vanilla for scum. What was the point of this statement at all? Chop-logic.

 

 

first did you notice I was replying to Turin? Context matters

 

2nd  so laying out the thinking of the person claiming is illogical is it? I dont KNOW turin is town  so i tried looking at the logic of his claims from both sides. Yet apparently you dont understand the possible thinking behind it from a town point of view.  Turin pointed out later something i missed    that town WILL swap one for one   mafia would rather not

 

the only reason i can think of that you cant understand that post is that you probably  arnt coming from a town point of view.

 

 

my vote is staying where it is

[ReleaseTheEvil]

Dice this reasoning still feels like a relatively weak attempt to avoid voting one way or another on Turin and Zander. At least that's all I'm really taking away from this.

[Reyoru]

first did you notice I was replying to Turin? Context matters

 

2nd  so laying out the thinking of the person claiming is illogical is it? I dont KNOW turin is town  so i tried looking at the logic of his claims from both sides. Yet apparently you dont understand the possible thinking behind it from a town point of view.  Turin pointed out later something i missed    that town WILL swap one for one   mafia would rather not

 

the only reason i can think of that you cant understand that post is that you probably  arnt coming from a town point of view.

 

 

my vote is staying where it is

 

 

1) Did I notice you were replying to Turin. Obviously, yes.

2) I understand it perfectly, I'm saying your logic was poor. And that's exactly the point I just made, that it would be worth it from a town perspective to swap Turin (effectively vanilla now) for scum. I absolutely agree with Turin on that. It's also obvious, and that you couldn't see that is suspicious. Or bad play.

 

Why the U-turn from lynching Zander/Turin to me? Did I hurt your feelings? :'(

[Turin Turambar]

Dice, I find it difficult to believe you would not realize that town (especially vanilla for all intents and purposes) will gladly trade themselves for a mafia member. That is what Rey said. That is clearly demonstrating an understanding of town mindset.

 

This looks really bad. You are projecting here I think.

[Turin Turambar]

Nice mindmeld Rey.

 

*lights cigars*

 

 

Zander, you still willing to vote Dice?

 

I wouldn't mind seeing him as a competing train.

 

Or possibly Eldrick.

[Turin Turambar]

Sorry. I think I killed the thread.

[BFG]

Ok, I'm here and basically reading from page 1.

[Ithillian Turambar]

Cool. I'm thinking of turning it into a movie. We'd have to seriously consider the cast. We could maybe do a sequel. Have a talking painting and pink goop.

 

There's nothing more evil than pink goop.

[BFG]

Turin, Shad, Zander, Rey all sound relaxed during the early game.

 

John straight in with gameplay; I suspect this is pretty null for him, but a good start

 

Zander stays on point even after Tsuki comes in with gifs, I still think this is a good look

 

Laine relaxed under John's 'useless'

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You should totally straighten him out.

 

 

Whats mommy doing to dad????

 

I just read this and died laughing. Thank you Zander

 

Also a fan of Rey right now. Good amount of snark, makes rereading more enjoyable. Not alignment indicative though, but probably want to keep him around for fun factor. lol

 

Well, that was more direct than I expected.

 

I'd say you can read Zander decently by his cases. He'll throw out gut/tone stuff a lot, but he'll bring it together with conviction or the appearance of it sooner or later, and if you're scratching your head more than nodding along he's probably a wolf.

This is mostly true, but he has been crazy tunnelly as town before and not cased as well as he should. Meh

 

#88 @Rey In regards to meta-play, it's been heavily used recently, more among some players than others. Sometimes it's used to make really accurate cases, sometimes it totally screws us over, so it just depends. I think it's a good tool to get some early reads in a game though. If we know how people generally react, it's somewhere to start from.

 

#113 McClane, not sure what your "LOLWUT" reaction is to my questions.

 

#125 pings me a little bit from Lenlo. I'm having trouble with Lenlo's response here because he's inserting a snarky comment where I'm not sure it quite fits. =/

 

#129 @Tsuki, you didn't explain why my entrance was funky. Also not sure where any of those "reads" are coming from. They sound more like jokes to me than anything, can you expand more please?

 

It's silly, because you really weren't saying anything at all. A dismissive joke, and letting us know it's a null tell... which is pretty much stating the obvious. Nobody comes out and declares themselves scum, after all.

And yet you're voting him on a null action. Hypocrite?

 

#136 EW Zander. Don't like this vote on Dice, feels forced because I'm pretty sure Dice was joking, especially since he says he doubts you're a wolf in the same post.. But apparently I read your reasoning wrong which you explain on 142. Not sure it's "TMI" enough to call Dice wolf though?

 

 

 

Probably sitting null-townish on Dice for his responses. Townish on Zander. Shad gets negative points for his light entrance, something isn't sitting right there. Lenlo (-) for that awk post I mentioned earlier. Tsuki had some weird reads I want him to expand on so that I know what he's saying. Most everyone else is null. Might actually call Turin town.

 

Laine, can you explain your townish read on Zander? The only thing you said about him above was a negative that maybe became null? And straight after you say you don't want to push him?

 

Meh. Don't really want to push Shad, I moreso want to sit back and watch him for a bit.

 

Same with Zander, let him do his thing.

 

BFG, if you're still here, thoughts on Shad and Zander?

Both seem pretty comfortable in thread at this point, but that's null for both, no strong feelings on both. Zander seems relatively focused and didn't follow Tsuki into a gif war. I can follow Zanders thought process but don't agree regarding Dice.

[BFG]

Probably just going to respond directly for now

 

 

Morning

 

Zander's early seriousness is probably a good look for him?

 

And I like Dice's tone on this page, but it's all defence so I'm not sure how indicative it is of anything

Would you say he jokes longer before diving in as scum?

 

Pretty much. Zander can joke around or be serious as either alignment, but I think he's more likely to joke for longer as mafia

[Lenlo]

Agreed, id like a Dice competing train.

 

[v]Dice[/v]

[Hallia]

I am not opposed to a Dice competing train.

[Ithillian Turambar]

 

Official Vote Count - Day 1

 

Zander (4/7): Turin, Rey, RTE, Hallia

Alanna (1/7): Tsuki

Rey (2/7): Dice, Eldrick

RTE (1/7): Zander

Dice (1/7): Lenlo

 

 

Not voting

 

(4)- BFG, Niniel, Shad, Alanna

 

 

With 13 alive it takes 7 to achieve a majority Lynch.

 

 

Day 1 deadline is set for Wednesday 14 April @ 9 PM BST

 

Day 1 Deadline Countdown

[Niniel]

I´ll see if it works this time. Internet hasn´t worked at all where I am. Now I´m on my way to sleep. I´ll post tomorrow before work instead. Will take a look at RTE then. I unvoted because Lenlo asked me to before but I´ll revote.

 

[v] Zander [/v]