White Tower Mafia *Starting*

[Torrie]

Slowly walks around looking at the Red hallways. She looks around the corner and sees a Red shaw running away. She grins to herself. Aes Sedai should not lurk or run. Shaking her head she walks back to the rest of the group.  

 

 

I am going to withhold a vote for now.

 

 

 

 

 

[Talya]

Well I think the Angreal is hidden in the the cleavage of the Ajah Head, I mean who would dare try to get it out of there, their life would not be worth living. Though it would be nice and warm! That or it's at the bottom of the hottub of the Phoenix lounge *watches everyone run to the hottub* As if I would say that and not have looked first :)

Unless of course is was made of glass and so not be able to be seen in the water....>.>

 

 

Anyway I will go with [glow=red,2,300]Min[/glow]

 

Why, you may ask. Simple, she's not in my Ajah... ;D and after all thats what it is all about!

 

 

 

[Charis alAslan]

Well I think the Angreal is hidden in the the cleavage of the Ajah Head.

 

ROFLMAO!

[Verbal32]

In that case, point me in the direction of the Ajah Head.  Pete, I'd like to purchase a remote-groper with my points.  Thanks.

[mcs0083]

[glow=red,2,300]Min[/glow]

[a pale tanned lover]

Pulls up his skirt *thinks i should really have shaved my legs* and starts searching under the beds, when he notices a latch under one, opening it up he was shocked, amazed and relieved at what he found, hidden in the darkness there it was......A full bottle of Jack Daniels

 

Not in my Ajah either so [glow=red,2,300]Min[/glow]

[Minuet]

Okay, other then me not being in your Ajah's can you all please tell me what makes you so suspicious of me?

If people are pointing fingers at you and you are innocent of course you would redirect their attention. It is not a sinister thing to do. It is a self-preservation thing. Not to mention I had very low points earned. I mean my Ajah is extremely low on the points scale you might say. Just really curious why you would go after a low points earner and leave those who are the true threat to us all unchecked. My thought is that I would be after those who earned a lot of points to keep their Ajah from obtaining too many objects of power.

 

[Jaydena]

Wow this game is totally crazy. *wanders off to the Red Quarters* I have a couple of people I am a mite worried about personally but I could be totally off base. I will hold off my vote for now but vote soon here.

[Ludmian]

I don't like the randomness of this bandwagon. Last day we had a reason to be suspicious of Cosmicpanda. Besides he was a heavy point earner. Now we seem to be lynching a completely random person. I'd like to see some explanation how she is more dangerous than any other Aes Sedai or how we would benefit from lynching her more than from lynching anyone else. I'd suggest looking at the people who didn't vote for Cosmicpanda on day 1. Most likely, the other two Whites are among them and one of them is a Head. I'm withholding my vote for now.

 

P.S. Min is not from my Ajah either. I'm just trying to make things more thoughtful and less random.

[LilyElizabeth]

Ludmian, you make a lot of sense. Although that's still 10 people, if my Math is right. Any ideas on how to narrow it down? Okay, most of us can cross off the two people in our own Ajahs, but that's still 8. I may do a read-through of those pages, if I can find the time, and make a list. I'm glad to see a well-thought out idea presented, because I've had nothing.... lol.

 

 

[Mystica]

I also am puzzled why the choice on one of the least points holding sisters, but then on the other hand the thread of a big points holder is not going to go away just by eliminating them. The points already earned are not lost with the person killed, I think. So their Ajah will still be able to use them.

 

As for future dangers, that can be any of us. This new twist with the ter'angreals in the Ajahs that can be won may very well tip the balance of advantage to anyone, regardless of point count. Or it may even destroy all the points in the Ajah of the one that wins the ter'angreal. Since we'll never know what they do untill we have them, and knowing Dragon's love for twists, anything is possible.

 

However, we can only go on what we know or what we can reasonably figure out. I need a bit more time to make up my mind on this one.

[LilyElizabeth]

Okay, I read through the pertinent pages. I should be sleeping, but well, you know....

 

Here's the list of the people who didn't vote for Panda. (By the way, there are still two spots Dragon's trying to fill, so we only have 22 actual players.)

 

Mystica

Charis

Zania

Talya

Elgee

Jaydena

Moggy

Mcs

Tynaal

 

I'm not sure if they are all still playing or not, even, but there's the list. My thoughts on it are that Myst is a high point earner, and did a fantastic (very sneaky) job winning her last mafia game. Talya is also a good player. And that's about all I know, I guess. I have no strong opinions, so I'll wait and see if Ludmian makes sense to anyone else, and see how the voting goes.

 

 

[Elgee]

Luddy makes a lot of sense to me too. It just seems logical (no I'm not White  :P) to take out the people with the highest points. Even if their points then go to their Ajah, they have one less person in their "block", and should then be easier to vote off.

[Mystica]

lol only in maffia games do you get punished for being good. However, I'd like to point out that I am nowhere near the top in points earning (Lily and Meesh outrun me by far on that aspect, despite any bonus points I got the first day) and me winning a prior maffia game is in no win an indication of this game since I'm pretty sure that no one, even the most experienced players, have been involved in a game like this one before. I could be wrong, as I don't often play these games, but I highly doubt it. The setup is so different and strange, that it's basically new to all of us.

 

I understand the need to target potential threats, but it's a bit the pot calling the kettle black when the top point owners keep singling me out for being a point earner. I'm hardly the only one in this game and as said, not even one of the top ones.

[Mystica]

edit: is in no 'way' (not no win)

 

[Verbal32]

I have questions for both Lily & Ludmian.  I notice that after posting my vote for Min, Ludmian comes in with this response:

 

I don't like the randomness of this bandwagon. Last day we had a reason to be suspicious of Cosmicpanda. Besides he was a heavy point earner. Now we seem to be lynching a completely random person. I'd like to see some explanation how she is more dangerous than any other Aes Sedai or how we would benefit from lynching her more than from lynching anyone else. I'd suggest looking at the people who didn't vote for Cosmicpanda on day 1. Most likely, the other two Whites are among them and one of them is a Head. I'm withholding my vote for now.

 

P.S. Min is not from my Ajah either. I'm just trying to make things more thoughtful and less random.

 

A few comments to Luddy:

 

The only benefit to lynching ANYONE is to get closer to endgame and to eliminate people not from your Ajah.  You know that...and you contradict yourself by wanting to go after somebody not on Pandy's lynch.  What makes THEM more dangerous?  If you are trying to eliminate the Whites, then you're doing the exact same thing I'm suggesting = lynching people not from your Ajah.  So what is the difference between me voting for Min, and you wanting to vote for somebody not on the Pandy lynch?

 

Also, the lynch forming on Min is not random.  If you look back, you’ll see several people voicing concerns or suspicions on Min.  She even states it herself!!  Look here:

 

 

Okay, other then me not being in your Ajah's can you all please tell me what makes you so suspicious of me?

If people are pointing fingers at you and you are innocent of course you would redirect their attention. It is not a sinister thing to do. It is a self-preservation thing. Not to mention I had very low points earned. I mean my Ajah is extremely low on the points scale you might say. Just really curious why you would go after a low points earner and leave those who are the true threat to us all unchecked. My thought is that I would be after those who earned a lot of points to keep their Ajah from obtaining too many objects of power.

 

But then Lily comes by and agrees with Ludmian.  See:

 

Ludmian, you make a lot of sense. Although that's still 10 people, if my Math is right. Any ideas on how to narrow it down? Okay, most of us can cross off the two people in our own Ajahs, but that's still 8. I may do a read-through of those pages, if I can find the time, and make a list. I'm glad to see a well-thought out idea presented, because I've had nothing.... lol.

 

Perfectly normal, until I remembered this post from a few days ago:

 

Like any of us would object to free points? Pete take your time if you need to. I would rather your points and all be accurate as possible personally. I know my Ajah would appreciate it too.

 

Am I the only one who finds this post interesting? Min must have a heavy point earner in her Ajah.

 

So you "have nothing"?  Even you have voiced some suspicion on Min.  You specifically did it a while ago, but then said you were "mistaken".  And then you think she has a heavy point earner.  And now you leave the idea completely to agree with Ludmian, who disagress with the lynch on Min.  Can you help me understand the change of heart?

[Torrie]

lol

 

**sings**

 

Paranoia, paranoia, someones coming to get me!

 

**/singing**

 

 

 

You make a good point, Verb.

 

Plus some of the people on that list have not posted at all, right Lily? So its not just a matter of them not voting for Pandy, it is a matter of who tried to stop the vote.

[Ludmian]

A few comments to Luddy:

 

The only benefit to lynching ANYONE is to get closer to endgame and to eliminate people not from your Ajah.  You know that...and you contradict yourself by wanting to go after somebody not on Pandy's lynch.  What makes THEM more dangerous?  If you are trying to eliminate the Whites, then you're doing the exact same thing I'm suggesting = lynching people not from your Ajah.  So what is the difference between me voting for Min, and you wanting to vote for somebody not on the Pandy lynch?

 

Well, yes, I'm trying to lynch people not from my Ajah. But I don't like it that our game is turning into lynching people at random. There's little fun in that. So I suggested the alternative, namely to examine who did not vote for Panda and try to puzzle out which of them are Whites. If we hit the White's Head we'll eliminate the entire Ajah. Another alternative would be to go after heavy point earners. Their might be other options and I'm ready to listen to them. Instead we just choose a random person and everyone jumps on the bandwagon. After reading your post I can't understandf what it is about Min that you find suspicious. The fact that she might have a heavy point earner in her Ajah is not a good enough reason to choose her for lynching, IMHO.

[Torrie]

If we take out the Ajah Head does that mean that the whole Ajah is out of the game or do those that are left get recruited to different Ajahs?

[Talya]

The trouble is with this game, is there are no suspicious people as per mafia game, so I don't need any other reason than you are not in my Ajah Min, for me to vote for you. :)

 

I haven't got time to go through all the posts, but I'm sure when I went ot bed Panda had a few votes and then I came back and he was lynched (unless I'm getting confused with another game).

 

How do we know that one of those that voted for Pandy wasn't a white, when a lynch is inevitable on one of your own, best to jump on at the end to  distance yourself from them. So going just for the 10 would be a bit pointless!

[mcs0083]

I'm not sure if they are all still playing or not, even, but there's the list.

I am still playing ::)

[Verbal32]

Well, yes, I'm trying to lynch people not from my Ajah. But I don't like it that our game is turning into lynching people at random. There's little fun in that. So I suggested the alternative, namely to examine who did not vote for Panda and try to puzzle out which of them are Whites. If we hit the White's Head we'll eliminate the entire Ajah. Another alternative would be to go after heavy point earners. Their might be other options and I'm ready to listen to them. Instead we just choose a random person and everyone jumps on the bandwagon. After reading your post I can't understandf what it is about Min that you find suspicious. The fact that she might have a heavy point earner in her Ajah is not a good enough reason to choose her for lynching, IMHO.

 

First, it was not random.  More than one person voiced their suspicion of Min, if you go back and re-read from right after the Pandy lynch.

 

Also, my post DID show something suspicious.  I'll quote it again:

 

Like any of us would object to free points? Pete take your time if you need to. I would rather your points and all be accurate as possible personally. I know my Ajah would appreciate it too.

 

Am I the only one who finds this post interesting? Min must have a heavy point earner in her Ajah.

 

So, Lily is even suggesting that Min has a heavy point earner in her Ajah.  Aren't you suggesting the lynching of heavy point earners?  By taking out a member of that Ajah, we would be limiting the effectiveness of the heavy pointer earner.

 

Again, this is not random.  I've just outlined some reasons.  You were looking for reasons, and not just random.  Lynching heavy point earners is one way to go.  This is another way.  I'm trying to do exactly what you are suggesting.  ;)

[Elgee]

Verbal, I'm not following you ... exactly what are you suspicious of?

 

I'm starting to get suspicious of the people who keep harping on about other people being suspicious ... since it's been stated quite a few times that this all about Ajah against Ajah. Talya put it best, I think :

 

The trouble is with this game, is there are no suspicious people as per mafia game, so I don't need any other reason than you are not in my Ajah Min, for me to vote for you. Smiley

 

So what's with all the "this one is suspicious of that one", etc?

 

I hadn't actually thought of Min as much of a threat, because I was under the assumption that she didn't have many points. Am I wrong?

[Charis alAslan]

I'm still playing, too!  ;) I actually had no vote for the first day b/c I wasnt receiving notifications for some reason and had to read over 15 pgs in order to catch up! *facepalm*

 

And I do want to say that yes - in this game, since there is no mafia, it only makes sense to vote for ppl JUST BECAUSE they're not in your Ajah. You dont have to be "suspicious" of anyone b/c there's no mafia. (Although there may be a cult.) You can choose to take out heavy point-earners, although we've already established that it hardly matters since their Ajah retains their points anyway. (That's what I remember Gypsy saying anyway. Please correct me if I'm wrong.)

 

So, with that said, and really for no reason other than she's not in my Ajah, I will also vote [glow=red,2,300]Min[/glow].

[Torrie]

I believe that we should be aiming for the Heads also. That way the entire Ajah is taken out in one hit.