Discussion - Ajahs/Warders

[LilyElizabeth]

I'm with you. I would never have been Green in the books. I would have been Yellow. 

[Arie]

Over all I'll always quote what I wrote when I became Aes Sedai on TV.Net. 

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Though, I have a bit of every 'Ajah' dispersed in my personality. Some good and some bad. I am Blue in my drive for a cause and justice. I am Brown in my OCD for books, order and my general love of the written word. I am Green in my fierce loyalty to my sisters and I will draw swords to protect what needs saving at the cost of my life. I am White in my addiction to philosophy and and the more worldly questions that question the mind and challenge how we live out lives as a whole. I am Yellow in my ability to heal the Soul, support and aid in ways that sometimes defies the laws of medicine or even logic. I am Red in my fight for a stronger world by protecting Humanity with making the decisions that are hard to make. And last but not least I am Gray in my hope for peace, good will and an understanding of others that are far different than myself, even if my views are different and do not agree with theirs.

 

Overall, i've gone through a lot of growth from the young woman I once was when I joined Dragonmount. My most formative years of growth were among these boards, and I learned a lot, stumbled a lot. In the books I genuinely could go any route depending where my (OP) talents lie, if I even have that ability. Years change and shape people and even at 36 we are still 'young' by the book standards. So, personality wise, I suppose it depends where I find my backbone. 

 

Though I like to think I would be a book Blue or Red. They suite my adult nature best.

[Jagen Sedai]

On 8/27/2019 at 8:24 PM, Taymist said:

...the only one that fit me was the Reds. I wanted somewhere that wouldn't judge me, that didn't expect false modesty, with people who didn't object to plain speaking, or equate honesty with being rude, who respected a wide range of opinions, appreciated diversity, and not only tolerated but actively encouraged opinionated discussions without holding grudges. The Reds has always been filled with both introverts and extroverts, the personalities are widely differing, but they're all fiercely independent thinkers, strong and outspoken in their passions, firm supporters of women and women's issues... and no, none of us are man haters. We're nothing like the book Reds but I can see how we'd be intimidating to some people lol. Me? I love them. Plus, you know, we gave you an Amyrlin who's pretty damn awesome. 

@Taymist, you said this wonderfully. When I was reading this, I thought to myself, "Well, this is EXACTLY how I am!" I often "offend" people in RL because they take my honesty and plain speaking as being rude, which I totally don't understand. And everything else you listed there... yes, that's me to a tee! I'm so proud to be a DM Red

 

On 5/28/2019 at 7:29 PM, Cross said:

 

it was all that one question that nagged me, 'who do i want to be?' a person who fights all the time (in a good way yes) or someone who chooses to focus my being on learning, growing, developing, understanding. the more i thought, the more i knew, that was me. sometimes you have to fight, but it can't be my defining aspect. it's not who i'll be in the long run. the pain from my past will be there, i can fight against it, i can fight for it, but i wont let it define me. it's an aspect. not my core. and i needed to embrace that in order to move on from the anger. which still wells up from time to time. but the brown's are who i am. introverted thinkers, more apt to do the research before jumping in. content to relax with a book, to be a spring of knowledge to those who need it. that's who i want to be. it's who i am.

 

 

@Cross, this just opened my heart. As I've gotten older I've struggled--as only a die-hard WoT fan can--at what my actual Ajah would be. And I've always felt a bull between the Whites and Browns. I've also struggled with the applicable differences between them. But I think your post has sealed my thoughts.

 

All my life I've been reading books, and I've kept my mind open to not just learning but teaching others as well. When I was a teen I even tried opening the eyes of students in my small town to realize there is a huge world out there we need to understand. And I want to understand everything about a lot of subjects. I love learning, and I feel it essential people never stop learning, never stop growing that way. I think the Whites appealed to be because of their desire for truth and their application of logic, but I think Browns do that too, even if it's not stressed. To be Brown you have to want to seek the truth, and you have to apply logic in your truth-seeking. I've always felt an appeal and appreciation for science and scientists, and I always wondered what "ajah" they'd fall under, but I think a mix of both. I wish I could be a scientist. For many reasons I cannot. But I admire them, and do my own forms of research by way of learning thoroughly about a subject. This is another reason I could never be a White; I love mathematics and reading about it for fun--including quantum mechanics stuff--but I'm just not up to par. I took pre-algebra 3 times, and failed all 3 times. I just couldn't wrap my head around it (actually, many times my teachers often asked in my life, "Why can you do the hard stuff but not the easy stuff? Unfortunately in math that's not good enough). I also love logic but I can't work well through puzzles at times--however, I apply a heck of a lot of logic to my RL dealings. I'm about impartiality and truth, even if it hurts me or another party. (Another thing people seem to take offense about... ?) Thus I have become very good at examining myself as detached as I can really get. So, okay, I do have a White streak. I just feel bad I wouldn't be a good White. Especially since, when it comes to philosophy, I find at least a good part of it illogical. When I hear philosophy discussions I find the topic to be of something of no real-world consequence or something that, no matter how much one talks about the subject, a person is just never going to know because it is impossible to get an answer (or near impossible). I feel with all of our technology and knowledge these days, philosophy is less needed than before, because there is now a distinct difference between philosophy and science, unlike, say, in Ancient Greece. However, when it comes to morals and ethics, I think these are very important. Also, Whites make the mistake of not including feelings and empathy when considering many problems--especially ethical ones. I think that is a mistake. Sometimes we need to do what is right, not what makes sense totally based on non-emotional factors.

 

On DM, I'm definitely a Red. It wasn't just DM; even reading the books I knew I was. I compare one aspect of the Red Ajah to Harry Potter's Hogwarts' house of Slytherin: they're both portrayed as evil in the beginning, you learn to hate them before you ever learn to understand them. And the Reds were spoiled by Black Ajah machinations just as Slytherin was spoiled by Deatheaters later. From the age of 14 I knew Red was my Ajah, somehow. They're an underdog who needed to be understood, and people needed to learn they weren't all bad, and the rumors about them just weren't true (except for extremists, but that's everywhere). Even in real life I had this... epiphany... when people started hating all Muslims after 9/11, I said, no, that's not it... and I showed people their thinking was ridiculous (again, a tiny town). I'm attracted naturally to groups that seem picked on and misunderstood, because I want to not only understand them myself--for a logic and knowledgeable point of view, without emotions getting too in the way--but needed others to know some truth as well.  Heh, maybe that's why I'm on a Left-Hand Path now (Ave!)... another very misunderstood group.

 

Lastly, I'll add that I'm a fighter. I'm willing to stand up for justice, especially when it has to do with truth-seeking. I don't shy from verbal fights/debates, etc. But I could never see myself as a Green.

 

So. I'm a DM Red. But maybe, in real life, despite my long-held alliance and loyalty to the Reds, I'm more a Brown. I certainly do enjoy activities, to quote the WoT, "they seemed to like that sort of thing", that involve collecting information, organizing it, helping others with understanding... I definitely need a Brown shawl and not just my Red. (Besides, maybe other WoT fans would open up to me more in that color LOL).

 

 

P.S. -- I've never understood RJ's desire to split the Browns and Whites instead of them being one big Ajah. Seems to me they should be one.
 

Edited September 3, 2019 by Jagen Sedai

[Taymist]

35 minutes ago, Jagen Sedai said:

@Taymist, you said this wonderfully. When I was reading this, I thought to myself, "Well, this is EXACTLY how I am!" I often "offend" people in RL because they take my honesty and plain speaking as being rude, which I totally don't understand. And everything else you listed there... yes, that's me to a tee! I'm so proud to be a DM Red

 

Why thank you, Jagen.  I'm glad it touched a chord with you. I haven't experienced this in real life/offline because for Scots in particular it's something of a natural trait. We're very blunt and outspoken as a people. Tell it like it is, call a spade a spade. It's a generalisation of course but in this instance, 8 to 9 times out of 10, it's also true. I didn't find it a problem until I came online.

All of sudden being honest/blunt meant accusations of being rude and it utterly baffled me. I do not and never have equated good manners or etiquette with pussy footing around a subject. I was constantly having to say to people that if I wanted to be rude, they'd be left in absolutely no doubt about the fact that I had been lol. It's actually how Mystica and I became friends in the first instance, because she hit a similar issue and I took her side against my own friend over it. It was the right thing to do, no big deal to me, but she was surprised by it. No wonder she ended up Red and I ended up following lol.

[Ryrin]

Awesome read, Jagen! Yes, you are a Red!!

 

I knew Cross was a Brown before she did!

[Lessa Nikia]

First off, love this idea! And I love reading everyone's posts about why they joined where they did.

 

When I first joined, I was actually on the Warder path. Offline, I'm a bit obsessed with weapons and have identified with women in reality and fiction who are/were fighters. However, overtime it didn't fit for me. When I switched paths, I spent a lot of time between the Greens and Reds. Both embodied what I consider central parts of my personality and I found a place with both of them. When time came for me to choose my Ajah, I ended up gravitating toward the Greens. Greens are fiercely loyal to one another, give support and comfort to anyone who comes to them with whatever problems they are experiencing, and support each other with their battles. Each sister has their own battle that they champion, whether it is mental health awareness, social justice issues, climate change activism, etc. The list goes on and that is where I felt most at home. Whether that is because I'm the oldest of 4 and I will protect them from most anything or because it's a part of being Canadian and seeing the injustices done to those around me and wanting to make them right. I feel like there are always going to be things that can be fought for to better the world and I plan to in whatever way I can. As I've gotten older, started a family with _wolfbrother_ and having Michael James, I want to leave the world a better, more peaceful place for him to grow up in and it just reaffirms why I am a Green at heart.

 

I do however also have a Blue and Brown streak. I'm a big nerd, love Harry Potter, and lots of fantasy. I also love history and learning more about other cultures and peoples.

[Ryrin]

It’s really interesting how we come to choose and then realize where and what we have in common with other Ajah’s.

[Lavandula]

Just popping in to say; I really like this post!

I'm new and haven't started the recruit program yet, still I already can tell there is bits and pieces of several ajahs in me.

Grey and brown description fits me to a T (realize there might be a few raised eyebrows..yes I assure you I am capable of reading the descriptions, lol. I just also got my humor to get me trough ruff times) also got some green, warder, a little blue and red in me (havent got a good feel for the rest yet.)

In the end it doesn't really matter the most though, does it? A house is just empty walls, it's the family that lives in it, that makes it a home..

Looking forward to get to know y'all?

[Ryrin]

Hi!!! Yes, it takes a bit of time to discover where you fit here. While we all have some book Ajah in us, we are a diverse group. It’s important, when the time comes, to choose carefully. We want you to be happy wherever you land. ?

[Lavandula]

Thank you! I'm keeping my mind open.

Trying to get to know both individuals and groups while waiting for class to start.

 And also, are the warders included in this post? And if so do they know? Cause I'm pretty sure I'm not the only newbie who greatly would appreciate to hear from them.. 

[LilyElizabeth]

Yes, they are. I know the Sword Captain knows because he posted. 

[Lavandula]

Oh, my bad, must have missed it?

[Liitha]

Thats cause atm its just me and JamesBrown who full members, got some intiates runing around but discs somewhat inactive atm so not sure they thougth much on them.

 

And well we did post lol just need to dig them out between all the AS posts. Hopefully we will raise our numbers soon ?

 

(Hey there's a job for you lavlav, go recruit aspies )

[Lavandula]

You want ME to recruit members for YOUR warders, that it? Lololol..

Sorry...Lava stopped fishing for people, it's frowned upon, lol?

*gives lii fishing rod, bait, and direction to good fishing place (aka discord)*  

[Maera]

Popping in after @Liitha kindly shared this link with me,

Choosing will be tricky! I feel as though I am a 'book brown' however everyone in all Ajahs has been very welcoming. I have never been apart of an online community outside social media, and I cannot wait to sink my teeth in. Would love to try RP as well, but I will have to learn how to do it first (looking at the club guidelines/ info posts now). Also wrapping my head around signatures as yours are all very pretty!

 

I would be very interested after I get to chat to you all a little more as to what you think would suit me ?

hehe Maera

[Liitha]

take you time get to know people, also *points up to discord sticky* do come hang out there too and ask questions, and your mentor is the club lead for the RP so probably can help you (and best way to learn is to just jump in)

 

 

[Ryrin]

On 10/19/2019 at 7:33 AM, Maera said:

Popping in after @Liitha kindly shared this link with me,

Choosing will be tricky! I feel as though I am a 'book brown' however everyone in all Ajahs has been very welcoming. I have never been apart of an online community outside social media, and I cannot wait to sink my teeth in. Would love to try RP as well, but I will have to learn how to do it first (looking at the club guidelines/ info posts now). Also wrapping my head around signatures as yours are all very pretty!

 

I would be very interested after I get to chat to you all a little more as to what you think would suit me ?

hehe Maera

 

I have a huge Brown streak but I would never have been content to stay in the Tower.

[Liitha]

Is bonded to a brown in rp, but she dislikes beeing astuck in TV so we keep traveling...no saying a brown cant travelbto collect knowledge

Edited October 26, 2019 by Liitha

[Cross]

in fact that’s often necessary

[Ryrin]

Yes, traveling in the pursuit of knowledge.

 

I want to travel to a place of battle. Lol. Green.

[Liitha]

Like logically if you always stay safe within the bounds of tower you dont need a warder 

 

Also there is knowledge of the borderlands, knowledge on the dark ones minion, knowledge on batles. It just depends what your field of study is really ?

 

Also 

[Ryrin]

Well, fight the battle, really. Lol.

[JamesBrown]

'Strooth. We warders get itchy staring at the same four walls.

 

But in all things, I defer to my bonded. I am hers to command. 

[Liitha]

42 minutes ago, JamesBrown said:

But in all things, I defer to my bonded. I am hers to command. 

hm and who may this mystery woman be? *looks over SC's sig and av but sees noting*

[Cross]

she’s another troublemaker