Tarmon Gaidon [Advanced Mafia] Game Over

[Ironeyes]

Ninjad by the mod

[Zander?]

[Pralaya]

Lol what. Hallia claimed Nynaeve and you've got her as scum with no comment on that. Have Darthe labeled as town and criticize me for reading him as town. The only strong town read I have is Zander/Cass. Say I'm following the crowd yet I'm the only one voting on believer and there's no "crowd" in this game. There's been like zero consensus agreement on anything except town Zander/Cass. This list is a joke.

Uh? I have probably said twice already in the game that scum have fake char and role claims and it does not factor into gameplay.

And, my point on you was moinly on how strongly you focused on Darthe as town and it was not just one post. There is quite a difference between what you said and what I am saying.

[Pralaya]

 

Ok, finally caught up (had to skim a lof of Shad and Zander posts :/)

 

Not much time but this is what I am feeling

 

 

Dice - I like the way he has been inquisitive and his tone mainly suggests that he is trying to figure out stuff.

John Snow - Don't see what others are seeing in scum here and I think he is mostly an easy target. Hi char-claim comment is not likely to come from scum. Neither his doc thing.

@Dice Figure out what? He's primary posts have been outrage at someone self-voting. 

@WiFi which game? How is she more free flowing? Looks exactly the same as always.

@JS - Why can't it come from scum? It's got no actual substance and takes town no where to talk about it. 

 

You lazy or you're scum.

 

He has more than just outraging at shad. Just as an example, take this post this post.

 

Don't tell me you don't see the difference betwenen her Black metal play and here. There, she was very forceful, trying to fit alignments with individuals. Here she doesn't seem that.

 

JS's post is not likely to come from scum because what's the point? By using that argument, you are only preventing the lynch on that person and it doesn't exactly gain townie points either. If anything, doing that is bad for scum.

[Pralaya]

He's not figuring in at all Hallia's soft claim and before people jump over me saying theres FAKE CHAR AND ROLE claims.  He's not even factoring in the timing of it or anything.

What do you say about the timing? It is wifom at best. If you had a Nyn fakeclaim, wouldn't you claim it right at the outset? That's why my point of not considering the char or role claim in this game.

[John Snow]

 

CFD = consolidate for deadline

 

common in hammer games where it goes random if there's no majority by DL

 

haha really?

 

I honestly thought it was Chinese fire drill 

 

...

 

I like my version better. 

 

 

Nope, apparently I know nothing

[Zander?]

 

He's not figuring in at all Hallia's soft claim and before people jump over me saying theres FAKE CHAR AND ROLE claims.  He's not even factoring in the timing of it or anything.

What do you say about the timing? It is wifom at best. If you had a Nyn fakeclaim, wouldn't you claim it right at the outset? That's why my point of not considering the char or role claim in this game.

 

 

When I was under like no pressue at all?

 

No...no i prolly wouldnt.

 

But early claims are a Town!Hallia special.

[Zander?]

 

 

CFD = consolidate for deadline

 

common in hammer games where it goes random if there's no majority by DL

 

haha really?

 

I honestly thought it was Chinese fire drill 

 

...

 

I like my version better. 

 

 

Nope, apparently I know nothing

 

 

Ive been trying all game not to say it....

 

sadface,gif

[Shad_]

 

He's not figuring in at all Hallia's soft claim and before people jump over me saying theres FAKE CHAR AND ROLE claims.  He's not even factoring in the timing of it or anything.

What do you say about the timing? It is wifom at best. If you had a Nyn fakeclaim, wouldn't you claim it right at the outset? That's why my point of not considering the char or role claim in this game.

 

 

I would say WIFOM on the character claim.  Halli claims stuff as a villager early often enough, I was duped by Salami claiming a major character at the start of a game before, and it's a sensible thing to do as a wolf if that sort of business is normal for you in the first place.

 

And generically speaking claiming that your game is off because you're bummed out irl is null too--it's certainly something I wouldn't hesitate to do as a wolf--it just doesn't fit my profile of Hallia, and that's my main positive on her.

[Shad_]

Pral sounding pretty reasonable on this page.

[Pralaya]

 

 

He's not figuring in at all Hallia's soft claim and before people jump over me saying theres FAKE CHAR AND ROLE claims.  He's not even factoring in the timing of it or anything.

What do you say about the timing? It is wifom at best. If you had a Nyn fakeclaim, wouldn't you claim it right at the outset? That's why my point of not considering the char or role claim in this game.

 

 

I would say WIFOM on the character claim.  Halli claims stuff as a villager early often enough, I was duped by Salami claiming a major character at the start of a game before, and it's a sensible thing to do as a wolf if that sort of business is normal for you in the first place.

 

And generically speaking claiming that your game is off because you're bummed out irl is null too--it's certainly something I wouldn't hesitate to do as a wolf--it just doesn't fit my profile of Hallia, and that's my main positive on her.

 

True. Neither of which are my reasons for suspecting her.

[Shad_]

Wasn't trying to imply they were your reasons, just reaffirming my stance on those topics.

[Zander?]

Pral sounding pretty reasonable on this page.

 

agreed

[Darthe]

Hey hally, how/why am I fading to null for you?

[Darthe]

Darest I say that zander and cass have pinged me a few times? I darest, but I do recognize that it's prob a factor of how many posts they have, or my inherent aversion to chumminess.

[Wildfire Sedai]

I totally just got caught up from last night.... I am going to try and do a reads list before dl....I usually ISO everyone and make my reads that way but with so many people and over 55 pgs... so I am going to do those that I have felt were slightly scummy and then those that were more than slightly townie...if I can get to them and forget about the nulls for now.

[Hallia]

 

Zand/Cass - Obv Town

Kat - I feel that vibe from her.  She's here, she's present, she's in a great mood

Dice - Tone is villagery af

 

 

Shad - He's improved a lot, I was having trouble earlier but he's got his head in the game

Tiinker - I feel like he's towny, seems different from his scum games

Nolder - Townish lean to me - This is different for me, as I recall scum reading him a lot back in the day.  I feel like he's being open and honest

Ironeyes - I'm on the cusp of town here.  I like his level of involvement.  He's my lowest town lean.

 

Bee - On the fence about - Want to give him more time though

Darthe - Felt more confident initially, that is fading into doubt, though.

Wifi - I feel like I always scum read - Others are town reading, so will give time.

 

JS - Still suspicious of, but as people say, he's got his head in the game right now.  May unvote, but I still think wolfy.

Pral - Did not like his read list, or level of involvement

Hellian - I don't know if it's because he's new.  I find it odd also the people that are normally all about d1 passes for new people aren't doing it here.  It says more about them than it does Hellian to me.

 

Are these in order Hallia?

 

For the most part, the last three keep flopping around

 

At a pinch but forgot Nolder and Darthe and apart from Believer these are my tinfoilconspiracy reads :p . Except for Believer I'm not really into voting any of them today.

Wrt Iron it's mostly little things and possibly unfamiliarity makes him ping me to me than he should ...and I won't vote there before reading the other ISO at least.

 

 

Zand/Cass - Obv Town

Kat - I feel that vibe from her.  She's here, she's present, she's in a great mood

Dice - Tone is villagery af

 

 

Shad - He's improved a lot, I was having trouble earlier but he's got his head in the game

Tiinker - I feel like he's towny, seems different from his scum games

Nolder - Townish lean to me - This is different for me, as I recall scum reading him a lot back in the day.  I feel like he's being open and honest

Ironeyes - I'm on the cusp of town here.  I like his level of involvement.  He's my lowest town lean.

 

Bee - On the fence about - Want to give him more time though

Darthe - Felt more confident initially, that is fading into doubt, though.

Wifi - I feel like I always scum read - Others are town reading, so will give time.

 

JS - Still suspicious of, but as people say, he's got his head in the game right now.  May unvote, but I still think wolfy.

Pral - Did not like his read list, or level of involvement

Hellian - I don't know if it's because he's new.  I find it odd also the people that are normally all about d1 passes for new people aren't doing it here.  It says more about them than it does Hellian to me.

Hallehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh <3

 

Can you walk me through the thought processes on Believer and Hellian from start to finish?

 

Eg. Why does Believer get more time but not Hellian?

 

 

Bee I said about yesterday I think it was?  His game where he was IC it threw me off on how to read him, which he was playing scummy, of course, and he seems different.  And so, I want more time to read him.  I'm not confident on my read.

I also think Hellian should get a little more time.  

 

Hey hally, how/why am I fading to null for you?

maybe I should just ISO you, but thinking back on you, I remember liking your posts initially but when I try to remember recent ones they just blur.  That is more a failure on my part I suppose.

[BFG]

D1 Votecount

 

 

 

Snow (2): Hallia, Believer

 

Hellian (4): Shad, Nolder, Ironeyes, Zass

 

Zass (1): Hellian

 

Believer (2): Tiinker, Snow

 

Not Voting (5): Darthe, Dice, Katiora, Pralaya, Wildfire Sedai

 

 

 

You have about 3 hours to choose between the stedding and Tel'Aran'Rhiod

[Katiora]

IDK I'm more willing to give the new guy a pass and see if he cleans up then someone that just doesn't seem invested at all.

 

I mean I hate D1 but I still try to put SOME effort into it. Not putting any effort into ANY day is just not very pro-town... I"m kinda wanting to vote Believer... 

[Zander?]

@ Hallia-

 

I asked about the order cause unless im missing something and this normal lolzander your Hellian read seems kinda like it should be Town.

[Zander?]

IDK I'm more willing to give the new guy a pass and see if he cleans up then someone that just doesn't seem invested at all.

 

I mean I hate D1 but I still try to put SOME effort into it. Not putting any effort into ANY day is just not very pro-town... I"m kinda wanting to vote Believer... 

 

This does not sound like sheeping Zander.

[Shad_]

For me, someone going "I'm not going to get heavily involved until D2 and if I don't make good on my word tomorrow you can lynch me" is less suspicious than someone putting on a brief appearance of trying to solve and drifting away after it gets negative feedback.

 

/shrug

 

Neither look particularly good.

[Zander?]

Darest I say that zander and cass have pinged me a few times? I darest, but I do recognize that it's prob a factor of how many posts they have, or my inherent aversion to chumminess.

 

OFC its not normal for you to not be wrong about Town!Zander in like every game...lol

[Shad_]

I have to take off until petty close to deadline.

[Zander?]

@ Hallia-

 

I asked about the order cause unless im missing something and this normal lolzander your Hellian read seems kinda like it should be Town.

 

Or even null I guess but not really Scum.