Danger in Demons Cove GAME OVER Villains win

[Wildfire Sedai]

That's what I meant....dammit....I totally fudged up.....sorry....I screwed up in my first post and just kept it screwed up in my second.

[Wildfire Sedai]

eating snack now....but thats what I get when I am catching up and posting at same time.

[Wildfire Sedai]

Well since everyone is either at work or in bed, I guess I will go do other stuff for now and come back later.

[Niniel]

 

For what its worth I didn't come on early today cause at 9 I had therapy till 10am then at 10 am I took a nap till 11 am sitting in w/c ... yeah I do that sometimes...meds...Then I drew picture for RR TASK...I figured we have 2 days its not a hammer game so I can get some other stuff done...then I caught up and now I am answering questions:  

 

1. As far as staying on Hallia after her catch up: Most of the points she was making were saying I was scum, which I'm NOT OR saying Niniel is scum which I agree with.  At the time I did not have time to argue with Hallia about her stance on me. Then there was a couple of posts that just seemed weird to me: The reason I didn't post this way back when was two-fold: 1. I didn't have enough time between the two games 2. In past games when I would post long series of posts with quotes, people would post such things as, " TL;DR, I didn't read Wifi's post, etc" so I figured why bother anymore.

 

 

 

 

Niniel can you elaborate on how Kat is less focused?

 

I can understand the whole "not being able to read someone"... I'm glad I'm IC this game or Hally woulda already tried to lynch me twice! LOL

 

Did I say that? I meant Wifi. 

 

 

I find this odd wrt Kat or Wifi for that matter.  Have you had an instance where Wifi has been focused?

 

 

Okay, just powered through everything.  I don't have the time to respond to everything that I'd want to, but the short version:

 

-Mixed feelings on Pral.  I like that he's getting involved finally and his willingness to start a push is a good sign, but the things he's pushing me confuse me.  He uses the thing about Alanna and my post towards WiFi out...immediately after commenting that he felt similar.  

 

He's not wrong about voting an easy target, but pretty much everybody is an easy target.  I can't push Alanna.  I couldn't easily push Nyn.  After Sooh started digging in, she wouldn't really be so easy to push.  But why would I?  Confirmed town, somebody that's playing incredibly protown, and somebody that has been increasingly townie since deliberately acting off to get things going.

 

If the giant group of nulls start posting, I can evaluate better.  In the mean time, I have to make due with what I've got.

 

-The vote for IronEyes was somewhat for inactivity, but more how it came.  He was very fluffy early and I dragged him into contributing.  He said he needed more information to make a decision.  That's fine - not everybody thinks 'quickly'.  So what did he do?

 

 

 

Morning everyone! Glad to see you haven't added twenty more pages while I was asleep.

 

 

Okay...again, that's fine...

 

And nothing.  He said he needed more information to figure something out and then completely avoided trying to GET that information.  If somebody needs more information to evaluate people, then shouldn't that person try to GET more information?  

 

I saw he said he was busy earlier today, but I would think if he was available to post about there not being new pages he'd be able to post something that contributed to the game without having to be directly asked.

 

-Tress made a point about Pral I liked and agreed with, which is why I didn't feel completely awful about his push on me.  Town!Pral is going to give you his thoughts.  He's not afraid to go completely against the grain on a read or disagree with somebody.  I still want to see more from Tress because she's usually pretty obvious to me when she's town, and she hasn't been.

 

-Hallia is looking just a little worse, just because it seemed most of her posts when she was going back through were just agreeing/saying she liked things.  I know she does that as town, but I'd expect something unique from her.  Everything was just piggybacking what everybody else said.

 

 

I saw Alanna voted Talmanes.  I wouldn't vote there over Iron, but I have no issues with his lynch.  I'd certainly prefer him over Hallia.

How is it piggybacking when several people have changed their minds on things I initially agreed with, but I haven't?

 

So does it strike anyone as odd that Pral was rambling about sheeping and asking for competing trains and bla bla bla.... but then votes Hallia?

 

Yes.  I'm wtl Nini or Pral atp

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Well, I had already ISO'd them once and was just going to make a generic post...then I was like no go find some quotes and I am glad that I did.. I started with Niniel cause I still had her search up...

 

 

Hi Ironeyes! Great to play with you again. 

 

Her is her first post.  She doesn't say hi to everyone just ironeyes...maybe they are partners...however the next quote is the most telling: 

 

 

 

 

 

Just wanted to remind people that I´m Niniel now. :)

 

 

Before I read more I just want to comment on these posts. I thought I already had but it seems like I didn´t made a good job of explaining myself.

 

 

 

I read Nyn´s intro post as she was town. I thought all townies would see it and that is why I was suspicous of those voting her. But... the townie pm is in the intro so all that gave me was embarresment for not reading it. So basically, I regret everything I wrote. :D

 

 

 

Niniel: because she's my only scum read   ; she seemed to have taken the joke votes too seriously for someone who has played mafia for a while (longer than me); going after people for their vote on nyn but not their vote on dice.  could be:

 

1. trying to make people think that she is protecting nyn by going after the people that are voting her thereby getting a ML

 

or

 

2. she is distancing herself from dice, her partner...I know I gave him slightly townie....but I was on the balance beam with that call so went with town for now...hence the disclaimer.. 

 

See my answer above. 

 

 

Halli, you're starting to worry me :P

 

thats cause shes feeling good about me. nods. I always get sus when she town reads me.

 

 

The more I think about the whole Niniel situation the more I tend to think that her stubbornness regarding me might be a town sign. 

 

Agreed that Hallia seems to be not very involved, and I guess the same goes for Wifi, but they are both in another game at the moment I believe, so I will try to keep that in mind. I do hope they will prioritize this game tomorrow before EOD though.

 

I was pretty underwhelmed with her reason for thinking me a good vote option. She hasnt even commented on my vote of her.. Does that impact ure stubborness thought?

 

 

See my answer above. 

 

If Tina is telling the truth about not seeing the sample PM, I think she's more or less townspewed herself by giving Nyn towncred for it? I'm just not sold she is...but that seems like a really weird thing to lie about?

 

Let´s just forget all about it. 

 

So how does Niniel know that the people voting for Ironeyes are TOWNIES??? Answer me that!!

 

 

1. WiFi - I didn´t like the way she suspected me and then voted Hallia for weird reasons. Just following others. Don´t know how much of this is because she is in two games at the same time. 

2. Niniel - town. 

3. Hallia - I´ll wait for her catch up. Didn´t like her vote on me. 

4. Ironeyes - I´ll wait for his catch up too. Not sure I understand why others have suspected him. 

5. Clovr - not sure that I understand his yolo vote on Ironeyes. 

6. Pral - I like what he has written today. I will be very vary of him though because he did a great job pocketing me last game we played together and seem townie there too. 

7.  Kat - posted a list that didn´t say anything really. 

8. Talmanes - hasn´t been here much at all. 

9. Tress - her list seemed okay. 

10. Sooh - still not sure but the activity level is good. 

11. Nyn - looks good. Towniest after Alanna. 

12. Dice - looks okay but I would like more. 

13. Alanna

 

Here she is saying she is not sure why anyone is suspecting Ironeyes??

Wifi, I'd like for you to read very carefully the above un-spoilered text. It's collected from your ISO post. I don't understand how RED MASSIVE TEXT is related to bold and underlined by Niniel. Did you misunderstand something here?

 

 

2. If you check below you will see that the word "those" is referring to the word "townies." So that implies that she knew that the people who were voting for Ironeyes were townies. 

 

 

I thought all townies would see it and that is why I was suspicous of those voting her.

those

T͟Hōz

 

plural form of that

that

T͟Hat,T͟Hət

pronoun

1.

used to identify a specific person or thing observed by the speaker.

"that's his wife over there"

2.

referring to a specific thing previously mentioned, known, or understood.

"that's a good idea"

determiner

1.

used to identify a specific person or thing observed or heard by the speaker.

"look at that man there"

2.

referring to a specific thing previously mentioned, known, or understood.

 

"he lived in Mysore at that time"

 

 

I see that Sooh has already answered but I was talking about Nyn.

 

 

I got less time today than I thought so I will have to leave some short reads and get back tomorrow since it´s time for bed. Unfortunately I´m not sure how active I can be tomorrow either but I will try my best. I can be here more on Friday but maybe it´s night then?

[Niniel]

Nyn - I haven´t played with MafiaNyn in a long time. At least I don´t remember it. So I don´t know how she behaves as mafia. But she is so involved and trying to force people to play that I can only think she is town.

Sooh - feeling better about her after the early day 1 stuff. She is active.

 

Kat - I feel better about her too. It´s not the same town feeling as the first two but I feel good about her. I can´t point to anything specific right now but maybe I can tomorrow. 

 

Tress - I have an okay feeling about her but would like more from her. 

Dice - The same as Tress.

 

Clov - Have to reread. I didn´t understand his and Nyn´s vote analysis at all. 

Ironeyes - Have to reread since he is a focus of a lot of talk. 

Talmanes - Have to reread as well. I liked him yesterday but no clue right now. 

 

Hallia - I still don´t like her vote on me yesterday but others are reading her town right now. I don´t think she and Wifi are mafia together though and I suspect Wifi more right now so I don´t know what to do here.

 

Wifi - my only real mafia read right now. The way she voted Hallia yesterday was weird. She is not acting like I remember from other games. She seems to listen where the focus is at the moment and then following along while trying to find proof for it afterwards in the text. She did it with me and didn´t get it right. 

 

 

[v] Wifi [/v]

 

 

 

I really need to iso the boys tomorrow and I hope I get the time. 

 

 

[Talmanes]

@Nyn - I don't really have any thoughts on Tress or Kat at the moment, neither has done anything that stuck out to me. Dice always seems scummy to me but he seems to be playing the same way he played in the last game I was in with him when he was Town.

 

The reason I wanted to look at the Hallia train is I didn't like that train. I'm mobile only so rereading isn't the easiest thing to do so I can't always get to everything. I got busier at work so have been mostly just trying to keep up during the day.

[Hallia]

I don't know that I will move my vote.

[Sooh]

I don't know what to make of this game. I hope it's not one of those where the mafia are intent on lurking themselves to victory, because I really hate when that happens. 

 

Most of the people in the game have less posts than the mod, and that's not right. 

 

Trying this on for size.

 

[v]Talmanes[/v]

[dicetosser1]

 

 

Actually, Iron being mafia is going to make me look at basically everybody that voted Pral from Kat onward.  I didn't think Nyn was mafia when I was still there, and going back through the day phase, she seemed to trying to make the right decision at end of day.  IIRC she could have stayed on Hallia and backed off.  Why completely stop an existing counterwagon and try to start a new one to save a teammate, when she could have continued to apply pressure to Hallia?

 

I need to re-evaluate Hallia, but I wasn't hating what I saw from her after I left.  I stand by my stance that she did a lot of agreeing with others and not really fleshing anything out, but I'm not as concerned about her as the rest of the votes.

 

Reason I said middle is that I didn't think Dice being on the wagon was all that bad, but then I remembered this.

 

 

 

I agree that Pral saying to give Hallia some space and then voting her is suspicious. Thanks for pointing it out cause I hadn't noticed it before. Might be bandwagon ing but [v]Pral[/v]

 

TOO EASY

 

If dice was still sleeping, I'd prolly offer to CFD him but of course he had to wake up and ruin the whole thing. Typical dice.

 

 

 

So... are we lynching Pral? Cause I kinda think we should.

 

I SAW THIS NYN!!!  Spanks nyn

 

 

Ironeyes jumping on like that I really don't think helps his case. Continues his pattern of just going with the flow. Especially interesting since his reads mirrored Pral's on Clov.

 

Can't necessarily fully blame him for the quick vote though since he is one of the higher vote holders at the moment. I'm still hesitant to vote him D1 but if he isn't lynched he is going to be one of the top people I'm watching D2.

Tbh I am totally going with the flow. Combination of being a little over my head and grasping at straws, plus someone made a good point that I hadn't noticed before. And I just don't see Hallia as scummy right now.

 

 

 

 

 

this reads as Bailing out the boat to me

 

 

It was 6-4 Pral/Iron before Dice voted.  Here, Dice calls out Iron for an easy vote.  He's not wrong, but as the counterwagon, Iron doesn't have to have good reasons.  As mafia, he's voting there to get a mislynch.  As town, he's voting there to save his life.  

 

What stands out to me is that Dice had a chance to make it closer between Pral and Iron - the person he's accusing of an easy vote - and votes Pral instead.  

 

"This is too easy of a vote.  Let me hop on the same wagon you are, rather than voting YOU".  Does that make any sense?

 

 

 

I voted with like a minute left. Couldnt equal the trains up. Would have preferred to vote ironeyes.

 

also  as i said i hated it cause i dont believe in watching peoples online status but that DID make pral look even worse and he wasnt looking good to start

 

Going to bring this up just one more time, because I don't get it. If you would have preferred to vote Ironeyes, why didn't you? I don't see why you felt that you needed to vote Pral. 

 

 

I also don't believe in the online status thing, and if Nyn is somehow mafia this game, that's where she blew her cover. (I don't think she's mafia though, so it's a moot point really.)

 

 

Because ironeyes and pral were both sucky

 

Because Ironeyes was 2 votes behind with like 3 minutes to go  and wasnt going to get lynched. I couldnt even tie the trains.

 

Because of nyns point about pral being online. It made him look even worse so i voted there

[Wildfire Sedai]

Hello, dice! any questions for me? 

[Sooh]

Hello, dice! any questions for me? 

I have questions.

 

Can you talk about Talmanes a little?

[Wildfire Sedai]

Throw me some questions and I'll do an ISO.  I just need a starting point...something to look for.

[Sooh]

Uhm. 

 

Do you think Talmanes is scum?

 

Why?

 

Why not?

[Talmanes]

@Sooh - Why do you think I'm scum?

[Sooh]

@Sooh - Why do you think I'm scum?

I'll try to articulate it tomorrow morning. Midnight time says that I need to sleep. 

[Talmanes]

I look forward to it.

[BFG]

DAY 2 VoteCount

 

Ironeyes (1): Clov

 

WiFi (2): Hallia, Niniel

 

Talmanes (1): Sooh

 

Not voting (7): Dice, Ironeyes, Katiora, Nyn, Talmanes, Tress, WiFi

 

[dicetosser1]

 

 

Who says im not trying to work you out? What you think im just sitting here saying "oh clov! i'll leave him to someone else" ??

 

You feel off. Im not liking your tone, it feels    slimy.

 

Your posts about Tina have ended up striking me as you may be setting things up to look good if she had been lynched. 

 

I totally think your capable of throwing a teammate under the bus if you think he is going to be under pressure. The "ive only done this once" argument means nothing and you know it. 

 

As for really pushing, im looking and thinking.

 

As for why not ironeyes?  cause there is a chance he is town and having the person i dont trust vote him straight out the gate makes me balk.

I am NOT going to rule out a ironeyes ninel clov team. i think its possible.

 

 

right now my thinking is that we should lynch you but i also realise that ure a hard read and i may be wrong. nHence im watching and thinking. I will vote where and when im ready to.

 

I'm going on my impression from the thread.  You can say I sound slimy, but what are you doing with it?  What are you doing to prove it?

 

You say posts about Tina could have been to setting things up if she had been lynched.  Earlier you said I could be teammates with her.  Both of those are true - they could be.  But the fact of the matter is I'm trying to figure out what she's doing and trying to figure out the implications of actions.

 

Bold - It doesn't mean nothing.  It means that anybody familiar with me shouldn't be defaulting to that situation.  Can I bus the hell out of a teammate?  Sure.  But if you're actually trying to figure me out, it sure as hell shouldn't be the first thing you default to.

 

 

So no, I don't think you're genuinely trying to figure me out.  I don't feel you're genuinely making an effort with me.  The Tina thing aside, you're not showing what concerns about me you have.  You're not attempting to get clarification on things.  You're not asking me for opinions.  And yet you're not actively trying to get my lynched.  Even in this post, you're saying you feel you should lynch me and still sitting back and saying "Oh, he's a hard read and I need time."

 

 

As i said ure a hard read. So im watching your interactions. Watching what you comment on how you comment on it. Making up my mind. When I have questions for you I will ask you.

 

 

RED  It DOES mean nothing. I can say "I never do that as a wolf" and it can be true....until i then go do it BECAUSE I would never do it.. My default position on you? Its to not make ANY assumptions about what you would or would not do.

 

My concerns?  Im concerned your playing puppetmaster. You comments dont feel like theres any real weight to them. Like you arnt fully committed to them. In fact the only posts that you seem REALLY committed to is the stuff youve been directing about me, probably cause ive annoyed you i guess.

[Katiora]

Sorry I haven't been around today. Got almost to daycare with my girls this morning and had a flat tire. Which was very unfortunate because a few nights ago I had another flat tire and hadn't had time to get a replacement. So I had 2 flat tires and no spare. Then I ended up spending all day with my mom as the price to pay for her having to run me to get a tire. Sooooo I haven't been able to get on I've tried to read up but the huge quotes are hard to read on my phone. And I haven't been able to look back on d1 like I wanted to today but tomorrow it's on!

[Wildfire Sedai]

 

Ironeyes jumping on like that I really don't think helps his case. Continues his pattern of just going with the flow. Especially interesting since his reads mirrored Pral's on Clov.

 

Can't necessarily fully blame him for the quick vote though since he is one of the higher vote holders at the moment. I'm still hesitant to vote him D1 but if he isn't lynched he is going to be one of the top people I'm watching D2.

Tbh I am totally going with the flow. Combination of being a little over my head and grasping at straws, plus someone made a good point that I hadn't noticed before. And I just don't see Hallia as scummy right now.

 

 

Here talmanes references that Ironeyes reads were the same as prals in regards to clovr.  Totally admits to sheeping with some extra reasonings.

 

 

So I somehow missed an entire page and double posted...

 

@Nyn - I did like Pral's initial reads. It was something different. I happened to think you made a very good point though and after rereading thought Pral looked bad. I was at work all day which is why I was posting sporadically and more so on my lunch and breaks. I still would have gone WiFi over Pral, but 2 hours to deadline and a tie vote seemed plenty good reason to break the tie.

 

On Dice it pinged me that as close to deadline as we were he posted he was checking out (I didn't realize going to worn meant he would continue to post) which seemed suspicious.

 

At risk of sounding like I'm defending Ironeyes (which I guess I am) I really didn't and still don't think voting someone for inactivity was or is the best call. His performance thus far has been lackluster but he also hadn't been around much. When there is something to go on (WiFi and then later Pral) I would much rather go that route any day.

 

On the point about Clov I think Pral's point was valid even though I ended up voting him. A lot of scum will still work at solving to look innocent. Plus I don't know Clov but there have been a lot of comments to make me weary of him.

You don't need to defend me. My performance has been lackluster because I am very bad at mafia. No point trying to deny that or blame it all on lack of time. True, I didn't post much because of time constraints. But that doesn't excuse shoddy reads

 

 

same thing that kat said once and she was scum...not liking it...

 

 

@Ironeyes - Now would be your one and only chance to convince everyone not to lynch you. I seem to be one of the few that are even hesitant.

Tbh I don't even think it's the best idea to convince people not to lynch me. If I die then I could provide the town with good info via associations and stuff, which is more than I am providing them with now

 

 

wondering if this is his way of saying he is mafia and that his flip can show who his teammates are? maybe? IDK!!!!!!!!!! 

 

For the record I still suspect Clov of going for me because it's an easy lynch. It's so easy to do that and make yourself look like a persistent townie who is really convinced of someone's guilt. And then when I flip town he can say "well he looked scummy, what else would I do?"

 

Another person who thinks Clovr is looking kind of scummy.

 

 

 

@Ironeyes - Now would be your one and only chance to convince everyone not to lynch you. I seem to be one of the few that are even hesitant.

Tbh I don't even think it's the best idea to convince people not to lynch me. If I die then I could provide the town with good info via associations and stuff, which is more than I am providing them with now

 

I said almost this exact thing last time i was scum and on the chopping block lol

 

 

see above.

 

 

Just posting to say that I will be more active later today. I have like 20 minutes right now and I doubt it will be enough. I skimmed the thread this morning but I need to re-read everything.

 

Since I see that everyone is talking about Iron Eyes, can someone say why? Is it because he was the competing train yesterday?

Partially that, and partially because I did act super scummy during day one: appearing to care too much about my joke vote, reacting poorly to Clov's pressure about it, disappearing from the thread at a less than ideal time, etc. They had every reason to lynch me and yet somehow Pral got sort of speed lynched.

 

Actually, that gives me an idea. I'm going to try and analyze the Pral train to see if I wasn't the only one who jumped on it for a dumb or fabricated reason.

 

 

If it wasn't for the statement that he made, that was almost word for word, like kat's in another game, I would say he was town.

[Wildfire Sedai]

Okay, so we know Pral was townie. So I went back and looked at his ISO. He has about 1/2 page. So less than Ironeyes.  I also feel that something happened to him because of the second quote.  It seems like he was going to post more and got interrupted somehow.  I am kind of concerned.  Unless he got lynched before he could post again.    

 

Alright, caught up completely.
 
The one person that weirds me out is Clov. A lot of his post seems like he is telling what you would expect anyone to tell at that point but are in fact nudges.For example - like how he talked about Alanna not realising she was confirmed town, or his comment about wifi or about sooh. He kind of flip-flops about Sooh. His yolo vote against Ironeyes doesn't make him look good either. The people he felt town were Nyn, which IMO is kind of consensus at this moment. 
 
Especially on a short D1, nudging and voting easy targets like wifi and ironeyes is what makes me think he is not town here.

 

So, pral has clov as PoE. Thinking maybe we should look here.  Some players are so good at looking townie that they are wolves!

 

yep, that is what I was looking for,

 

 

 

People I wouldn't really consider lynching TODAY are Alanna, Sooh. And to a lesser extent, Tina, Tress. And Clov/dice cause I am still pretty undecided about them and need more time. I wouldn't be SUPER surprised if I have one wolf in this bunch, but it's not something I'm going to dwell on today.

 

That leaves Hallia, Wifi, Ironeyes, Talamanes, Kat and you. Though of the bunch you seemed the most hands on and you've sounded more or less okay, so you get some credit for it. But because you've only now managed to get involved and I'm not going to have the time to feel you out properly... I don't feel comfortable moving you away from this lot. If that makes sense.

 

 

This actually makes me feel better about you. One thing I remember from playing with you is that you try to pocket me when you are scum. And, I got that feeling earlier in the day. And, in some of the following posts. But, I think this is fair assessment.

 

Also wondering if maybe nyn is mafia...Just a couple of things she has said.  She has posted too much for me to ISO her right now, but off the top of my head: why are you trusting me? is the only one I can think of...but I remember there were a couple of other posts that had me go . and to be honest I do not even know if those were her exact words.  I have 3 tabs open now, from ISO'ing 3 different people and trying to cross reference... 

[Wildfire Sedai]

So I finally found that sample PM, that changes things a bit.

 

I still am leaning Townie and Niniel as her thoughts of "well Nyn posted about a pencil and pad and that was in my PM as a Townie so she's probably Town" (paraphrase) mirrored my exact thoughts so seem genuine.

 

@Sooh - I'm not really sure on you. You have been posting reads which I like but I'm wary of you. More of a gut feeling than anything else.

 

could that be a hint to them communicating in a mafia qt? or just a weird choice of words!

 

I really feel like Ironeyes hasn't been around enough or done enough to merit a vote for that matter either. I feel like he is being voted simply for not being around (seems to be the only real reason anyone is looking at me too) and I don't think that is really a viable route.

 

I can agree with this to an extent.  I know we have to keep time zones into account when figuring out activity levels, also whether people have jobs and family, etc. However, why join a game if your not going to play and YES THIS GOES FOR ME TOO.  I felt really bad not being able to concentrate totally on BOTH games.  However, as I stated before I didn't think people would read my "work" so I really didn't bother too much like I did in my first few games. 

 

@Clov - I don't have votes but wasn't exactly regarded highly on the Town list either. Your reasoning makes sense though.

 

@Alanna - I know you just kind of voted me, I wants referring only to you. Just noticed I was high on some lists and wondered at the reasoning. Wouldn't call that defensive, more curious. I don't mind people suspecting me, I just like to know why.

 

@Ironeyes - Your post seems to just beat some dead horses. Really not seeing much being added.

 

could be distancing himself from Ironeyes? or just an honest read!

 

I went back and reread the Pral part you quoted Nyn and agree that seems pretty off to me as well. He made a big stink but then just jumped on. Seemed odd. I wouldn't mind a Pral lynch and would be willing to consolidate depending on what it looks like closer to deadline.

 

I still don't really see why Hally is a target and still feel WiFi is a good place to start D1.

 

Ironeyes did finally show up and didn't offer a whole lot. Considering he was not the only one (myself included) gone for the weekend I'd rather hear a bit more before voting that way. If I'm seeing the same sort of reads on D2 that'll be a different story

 

back to Ironeyes...admits he didn't offer alot but willing to wait another day.  Not willing to bus a partner? or having a conscience and not willing to vote someone over attendance!

 

@Nyn - That's a good point. He could feel that Pral is a safer vote, or he could just actually be suspicious. That's why I'm not rushing to lynch him at this point. He's been around so little I feel like it would be a rush to judgement.

 

again distancing? or compassion!  However if its compassion, what about compassion for pral.  He was on less than Ironeyes.

 

 

I'm disappointed that Pral didn't turn out to be scum but I think the reasons to vote him were solid especially for D1.

 

@Nini - Your point against Pral made me reread and agree. Him staying away when the heat kicked in didn't help. I still am not feeling good about WiFi and would have preferred to vote there but felt there was enough reason to vote Pral as well.

 

I'm really not sold on Ironeyes. I've been on the fence with him because he has seemed to just be floating along not offering anything new. I don't think he's the best place to vote right now and would rather see what he contributes in D2. He did openly admit he hadn't had much time and so knew he wasn't contributing much. I'm willing to give him some time.

 

WiFi is still my top target right now. She's been wishy washy and has still yet to explain any of her reads. She had conviction in the game I played with her and I'm not seeing that here. I feel like she is trying to stay off the radar this game. Plus she said she isn't in her other game anymore so there goes that excuse.

 

I'd like to hear what everyone else has to say before voting, but WiFi has stayed steadily on my radar.

 

connecting with niniel and ironeyes? could be partners?

 

So I somehow missed an entire page and double posted...

 

@Nyn - I did like Pral's initial reads. It was something different. I happened to think you made a very good point though and after rereading thought Pral looked bad. I was at work all day which is why I was posting sporadically and more so on my lunch and breaks. I still would have gone WiFi over Pral, but 2 hours to deadline and a tie vote seemed plenty good reason to break the tie.

 

On Dice it pinged me that as close to deadline as we were he posted he was checking out (I didn't realize going to worn meant he would continue to post) which seemed suspicious.

 

At risk of sounding like I'm defending Ironeyes (which I guess I am) I really didn't and still don't think voting someone for inactivity was or is the best call. His performance thus far has been lackluster but he also hadn't been around much. When there is something to go on (WiFi and then later Pral) I would much rather go that route any day.

 

On the point about Clov I think Pral's point was valid even though I ended up voting him. A lot of scum will still work at solving to look innocent. Plus I don't know Clov but there have been a lot of comments to make me weary of him.

 

here he is defending Ironeyes, again? Pral didn't post that much either.  Pushing clovr? a teammate? maybe? maybe not?

 

@Clov - I said that if he kept up just following along and seeming to not really offer anything original that would be something I wouldn't tolerate starting on D2. It's D2 now so we'll see. He isn't off my radar by any means, but he's not my first pick to lynch either.

 

It's been D2 for a while now and he hasn't posted yet....unless he has in the last couple of hours that I've been doing this?

 

@Ironeyes - Now would be your one and only chance to convince everyone not to lynch you. I seem to be one of the few that are even hesitant.

 

Okay: Ironeyes are you here???

[Talmanes]

@WiFi - I'm Town. If I were Mafia I certainly wouldn't be openly supportive of my team mates. I give honest reads and comment on my thoughts.

[Talmanes]

Also I have had a few posts FYI

[Wildfire Sedai]

So if you take 4 and divide by 13 you get 0.30769230769.  and if you take 3 and divide by 10 you get 0.30.  So what I am trying to say is that I believe that there is a 4 person mafia team not a 3 person one.  That being said I believe the following to be possible mafia teams:

 

clovr - He was in Pral's FoS and I could totally believe him a deep wolf

nyn - a couple things she said...I MIGHT ISO her tomorrow....NO promises...oh wait...I got group tomorrow...*sigh* another deep wolf

niniel - haven't really liked her posts from beginning...just a weird feeling...and yes if others are allowed to have "weird feelings" then so am I 

ironeyes - It seems like most mafia teams have one player that doesn't post much and is bussed.  I feel like Ironeyes could be that one, possibly? 

 

This is the one I am thinking is most likely.  The others I am going to show are because I have questions about the players being replaced and their replacers.

 

These three are the next most likely:

 

clovr

nyn

Dice - He has been a low poster but has been pushing a little.  hmmm....

ironeyes

 

 

clovr

nyn

hallia - her catch up was ok/good...but she wasn't pushing anyone that I could tell

ironeyes

 

Clovr

dice

niniel/hallia ?? can't decide

Ironeyes

 

These are the last that I'm just switching players that have come up as possible mafia

 

clovr

nyn

tress - I feel she has dropped under the radar and should be added in just because

dice

 

sooh

dice

talmanes

tress

 

sooh

niniel

tress

dice