Frozen Mafia Game Thread--GAME OVER--MAFIA WIN

[Sili Quirrels]

isn't the let it go meme ironic?

 

i always thought the song was supposed to represent what she wanted but couldn't do.

[Kaylee]

isn't the let it go meme ironic?

 

i always thought the song was supposed to represent what she wanted but couldn't do.

I think it does.

[Sili Quirrels]

Bolded:  So you call Dice a name. He votes you.  You emo out....

 

Clearly you haven't been tunneled before.

[Sili Quirrels]

 

isn't the let it go meme ironic?

 

i always thought the song was supposed to represent what she wanted but couldn't do.

I think it does.

 

yay point for sili!

[Zander?]

Not sure why you are voting Sili. Seems to me like he had some foot in mouth disease, and that is what you're nailing him for. Let's see how the rest of toDay progresses. 

 

Dice seems ok for now, but we shall see. 

 

 

lololololol....really Dice has discussed this and like this only ALL game,

 

lol Cryptic posting is cryptic.

 

I'm fairly sure I'm not thinking the same as Zander or Dice.

 

You dont want in my head....lolololololol

 

i do agree that Sili has contradicted himself some this early in the game. Seems that way to me at least

 

Pops knows whats what

[Zander?]

 

Bolded:  So you call Dice a name. He votes you.  You emo out....

 

Clearly you haven't been tunneled before.

 

 

....really....dude come on.... meh

 

and FWIW- im usually DOING the tunneling lolololololol

[Sili Quirrels]

Ehhh, I don't like the whole Sili/Dice thing.  I don't get town/town from it, but I don't know yet which one is scummier.

Yeah, so from this and her later post elaborating her stance, I think HAllia's progression on Sili and Dice is almost null. If anything it shows she is thinking in isolation which is a good sign.

 

Although she only has 3 posts, that level of activity isn't unusual from what I can recall.

 

What AJ said about Hallia behaving opposite to her scum game I can see being intentional or unconscious.

[Sili Quirrels]

 

 

Bolded:  So you call Dice a name. He votes you.  You emo out....

 

Clearly you haven't been tunneled before.

 

 

....really....dude come on.... meh

 

and FWIW- im usually DOING the tunneling lolololololol

 

precisely.

 

being tunneled is #1 the most stressful thing in mafia for me.

[Sili Quirrels]

Pops knows whats what

 

pretty sure thane was wrong.

[Zander?]

Sili and Dice are both trying to misrep each other. I don't see where Dice said he was clearing Zander - and I don't see where Sili said he was clearing Sooh. Sili gave a reason after he posted that Sooh was town - he believes she has difficulty faking tone. Dice's only mentions of Zander came when he voted him.

 

 

@ Sili - If you felt people were clearing Zander too early - who are they besides Dice? You posted this before Dice had even posted his first post:

 

Uh. Ppl clearing zander too fast.

 

Sooh town.

Why aren't you pushing those people over Dice then?

 

But what I find interesting is that we have two quick unexplained votes on Sili - and two people sitting on the fence about it. I like AJ's vote less than Zander's - Zander at least attempted to justify his, even though I don't agree with the justification. Disagreeing with Dice's assessment of the situation doesn't warrant a vote by itself, IMO. I don't like the wait and see attitude that Sooh and Thane are taking either.

 

[v]AJ[/v]

 

 

WOLFY.

 

you list a bunch of bad stuff about Sili and Dice and then vote AJ??

 

WTH??

 

i HATE this post

 

 

 

Sili and Dice are both trying to misrep each other. I don't see where Dice said he was clearing Zander - and I don't see where Sili said he was clearing Sooh. Sili gave a reason after he posted that Sooh was town - he believes she has difficulty faking tone. Dice's only mentions of Zander came when he voted him.

 

 

@ Sili - If you felt people were clearing Zander too early - who are they besides Dice? You posted this before Dice had even posted his first post:

 

Uh. Ppl clearing zander too fast.

 

Sooh town.

Why aren't you pushing those people over Dice then?

 

But what I find interesting is that we have two quick unexplained votes on Sili - and two people sitting on the fence about it. I like AJ's vote less than Zander's - Zander at least attempted to justify his, even though I don't agree with the justification. Disagreeing with Dice's assessment of the situation doesn't warrant a vote by itself, IMO. I don't like the wait and see attitude that Sooh and Thane are taking either.

 

[v]AJ[/v]

 

 

I find the wording of this odd.  Do you think they're both doing it intentionally?

 

 

Shad

 

 

 

Shad_, on 13 Sept 2015 - 08:22 AM, said:

Razen, on 13 Sept 2015 - 07:41 AM, said:

 

 

Sili and Dice are both trying to misrep each other. I don't see where Dice said he was clearing Zander - and I don't see where Sili said he was clearing Sooh. Sili gave a reason after he posted that Sooh was town - he believes she has difficulty faking tone. Dice's only mentions of Zander came when he voted him.

 

 

@ Sili - If you felt people were clearing Zander too early - who are they besides Dice? You posted this before Dice had even posted his first post:

Sili Quirrels, on 12 Sept 2015 - 12:33 PM, said:

 

Uh. Ppl clearing zander too fast.

 

Sooh town.

Why aren't you pushing those people over Dice then?

 

But what I find interesting is that we have two quick unexplained votes on Sili - and two people sitting on the fence about it. I like AJ's vote less than Zander's - Zander at least attempted to justify his, even though I don't agree with the justification. Disagreeing with Dice's assessment of the situation doesn't warrant a vote by itself, IMO. I don't like the wait and see attitude that Sooh and Thane are taking either.

 

[v]AJ[/v]

 

I find the wording of this odd. Do you think they're both doing it intentionally?

Yes. Sili did initially twist Dice's words to reach an untrue conclusion. But it worked. And from that point - it's not a misrep. When I reread it closely - Dice never said anything about clearing Zander until pressed by Sili - he even voted him as a joke. That's not clearing behavior, if you ask me. So why pick Dice to hop on out of all people regarding the clearing of Zander initially? He is the first one to bring the post up. And Sili hops all over him for that. Initially - it's wrong. He makes the assumption that Dice has cleared Zander based on tone when he hadn't actually done that at that point in the game. Because as Dice pointed out - he hadn't mentioned Zander being town or anything when he had initially posted. That doesn't happen until later.

 

Sili Quirrels, on 12 Sept 2015 - 9:20 PM, said:

 

dicetosser1, on 12 Sept 2015 - 9:09 PM, said:

 

who said my conclusion is wrong? you come in saying Zanders getting cleared too quick   he basically got cleared for exactly the same reason you cleared sooh in the next sentence.

 

you say its bad one sentence and then do it yourself. Thats definitely talking out both sides of your mouth imo and I dont really see that as a good thing.

 

Even if i do agree that sooh is town based on the same thing you explain later. her tone.

 

But you didnt say that here you just threw out a double standard.

So let's be clear here. If you don't have a double standard, you are clearing Zander for faking tone when he spent the last mafia game showcasing how well he could fake tone?

 

And I am not 'clearing' Sooh so don't even.

But in the purple - Dice caves. He admits he's clearing Zander. Where Dice says "he basically got cleared for exactly the same reason you cleared sooh.."

 

The red is the point of Sili's push on Dice - which given the purple, is now a valid point to make. It's the part where Sili says "you are clearing Zander for faking tone..."

 

And yet Dice takes care to go back and say "I didn't clear Zander anywhere - you're misrepping me Sili."

 

I quoted the massive post where he does that below. In spoiler, so it doesn't kill people's eyes.

 

It's not a misrep at all from Sili after the purple point - it reads to me like Dice is going back to try and cover for his inadvertent admission regarding Zander. And call Sili out for making a bogus point when it really isn't.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Uh. Ppl clearing zander too fast.

 

Sooh town.

Right here you declare sooh town. 2 words Sooh Town. That sounds like clearing to me

 

 

Also you wanna tell me where I said Zander is Town? here are ALL my posts this game to make it easy for you

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sweet Randed Town again!!!!

 

 

HardClaim: Darth Vader

Vote Princessfor not singing as told too

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[v]Zander[/v]

 

I thought you were done doing that.

I just did.

If I could give points, I would for this post

Pretty sure Hearts a wolf

 

[v] Heart [/v]

10 points from Gryffendor!

Vader prolly Slytherin imo

Vader was a Hufflepuff who was loyal to the wrong person.

 

 

 

 

Haha we've started the quote pyramids already--should probably stop to save those who are playing via mobile XD

 

 

 

Darth says.....YOLO imo

 + a million for Vader in Hawaii

 

Uh. Ppl clearing zander too fast.

 

Sooh town.

Ok so game post here not a fan of this post even tho i agree regarding sooh. He immediately talks outside both sides of his mouth  but he does give a reason later

Basically what's going on in this thread right now...

 

Heart = Greatest mod EVA!!!!!

who said my conclusion is wrong? you come in saying Zanders getting cleared too quick  he basically got cleared for exactly the same reason you cleared sooh in the next sentence.

 

you say its bad one sentence and then do it yourself. Thats definitely talking out both sides of your mouth imo and I dont really see that as a good thing.

 

Even if i do agree that sooh is town based on the same thing you explain later. her tone.

 

But you didnt say that here you just threw out a double standard.

Note the bold  thats not me saying Zander is town. Your post that I had issue with? It came before I had even posted in the gameand you complained that "people are clearing zander too quick" My response there in blue is that he was getting cleared bythose people you complained about for the same reason you declared sooh town.

 

Ididnt declare him town  i only voted Princess and +1d a gif

 

 

So sili wanna declare who the rest of your team is now? Cause i think i just screwed you out of your easy push.

 

 

vote sili

 

 

I can understand if Dice didn't realize that he actually made that statement regarding clearing Zander because of tone. But he made it - and that's what drew my attention. And what's very interesting is that AJ basically saw fit to hop along with that bogus reasoning that Dice put out there. Zander uses Sili's refusal to address the point anymore as the basis for his vote - which looks better from Zander, but again - it's based on the assumption that Dice didn't actually say what he did. Dice's vote is pure OMGUS - the others, not so much. And those are the ones I'm concerned with.

 

 

Again making points against/ about Dice/Sili....but voting AJ for prolly seeing the same thing???

 

BAD.

[Sili Quirrels]

Actually razen was clearly making a hasty assumption about aj's justification. evidently he thought aj voted me for the 'wrong' reason.

 

you can see that thought process in his posts.

[Andrej]

He more or less created the reason afaict.

 

I didn't specify why I voted, and while assuming was required I don't like how wasn't objective about it. It also sort of relies on him thinking you could be town, which wasn't evident in his post with how he talks about you and your "misreps"

[Zander?]

Ehhh, I don't like the whole Sili/Dice thing.  I don't get town/town from it, but I don't know yet which one is scummier.

 

Hallia....you know what happened you tried to push Dice in last game....

 

please elaborate on this for me.

 

 

 

So Sili comes in making reads off intro joke content. That's kind of normal for him I think. He's recognizing that Sooh's vote on Zander was a joke, thinks scum!Sooh struggles to joke at the start of a game. Ok. What makes the Zander thing weird is that the only person who "cleared" Zander was Verbal, and I don't get how he ends up taking Verbal seriously when he recognizes everyone else is joking around.

 

 

 

I didn't read intensively. I saw someone clear Zander, think I saw others agree, so I commented that I was skeptical.

 

 

lolololololololol....GROSS

 

 

 

 

Ehhh, I don't like the whole Sili/Dice thing.  I don't get town/town from it, but I don't know yet which one is scummier.

 

I don't understand.

 

You know Dice's meta, right?

 

 

i will agree here ^^^^

[Sili Quirrels]

lolololololololol....GROSS

 

honesty is what it is.

[Zander?]

Hold on, am I assuming something about Zander? THAT is news to me lol.

 

Yes you ASSUME i FAKE my tone.  fwiw- this is not something alignment indicative. I dont as either alignment.  i have other tells though.  And about Dice- We;ve played in a lot of games. He's wavered on me but also eventually gets to my alignment.

 

I'm trying to take a moment.  Lately I'm very bad at reading Dice.  My gut reads are wrong with him.  He almost always comes across as scum, and I want to make certain I'm not mistaken.

 

Hallia you're doing that "looking scummy" thing again....im not liking it FWIW.

[Zander?]

 

lolololololololol....GROSS

 

honesty is what it is.

 

 

[Zander?]

 

 

Every time I go back to think about a proper response, my mind becomes static. I get flashbacks of all those times dice is wrong but plays badly and is simply a nuisance.

 

Therefore, I quit. I'll just evaluate him on his content as the day progresses. No need to interact.

 

[v] Sili [/v]

 

 

 

im quite happy to call Princess Town sili   There are distinct differences in his tone when he is mafia. I haven't seen that yet. Ive just seen the energizer bunny Princess

 

 

keep bailing sili you said reevaluate AFTER your solid declaration. What? realised that you werent leaving yourself an out?

 

 

but you see that vote?? get used to seeing it. Cause its not going anywhere

 

 

@Razen  Is that Zander post what your calling an attempt to justify his vote?\

 

and you might wanna quote the right stuff   the purple you highlighted? thats NOT me calling Zander town  thats me saying sili is whinging because people cleared zander on Tone. Same as he did Sooh. THIS post above is where I call Zander Town. 

 

As for Sili   I dont like that original post  if youre gonna clear Sooh on tone    someone whose tone is not a clear indicator all the time   then you cant NOT clear someone for who tone is indicative in the SAME POST.

 

After that?  he got defensive in tone  started throwing out the passive aggressive vibes along with insults. 1+1+1 = scum

 

I think he's scum.

 

 

i cant hate this.  Dice looking pretty town thus far.

[Zander?]

 

After that?  he got defensive in tone  started throwing out the passive aggressive vibes along with insults. 1+1+1 = scum

 

Yeah, you are bad.

 

 

and Sili calls Dice out for taunting and whines about it...then he does it himself....

 

 

 

Uh. Ppl clearing zander too fast.

 

Sooh town.

 

 

I speculate Sooh has difficulty faking tone. Therefore her vote of you, which is not serious at all, is a good sign. I will reevaluate later though.

 

tell me again you didnt do that

 

first quote is a statement Sooh is Town

 

The second justifys the read because of her tone.

 

then you leave ureself an escape hatch

 

 

+1

[Zander?]

Zanders entire meta is based on easy to fake tone.

 

[Zander?]

@ Kaylee i apologize but im having trouble reading your posts with quotes.  so if i miss something just wanted you to know,

[Sooh]

Is it just me, or is Zander looking worse for each post atm? Could be his not being caught up, but I'm really not feeling town Zander. 

[Shad_]

I appreciate the accuracy of your recap there.

 

Your questions at the end are kinda... not sure what the word I'm looking for is, though. Faux - maybe? I didn't take Verbal serious for his statement about never voting Zander.

The Sili question was genuine. The Verbal one was more of a shot in the dark to see if he'd do anything goofy with it. From what I can tell he came and went without answering.

[dicetosser1]

Maybe razen jist knows youre wrong.

 

Do u also think i am scum regardless what razen flips?

 

Yes.

[Zander?]

 

Kaylee i am easy to read. Y the prejudice...

No you're not, not for me. I've helped lynch you when I was town and honestly thinking you were scum when you were town.

 

I often find you scummy so no, it's not a prejudice, it's truth.

 

 

this

[Sili Quirrels]

 

Hold on, am I assuming something about Zander? THAT is news to me lol.

 

Yes you ASSUME i FAKE my tone.  fwiw- this is not something alignment indicative. I dont as either alignment.  i have other tells though.  And about Dice- We;ve played in a lot of games. He's wavered on me but also eventually gets to my alignment.

 

I'm trying to take a moment.  Lately I'm very bad at reading Dice.  My gut reads are wrong with him.  He almost always comes across as scum, and I want to make certain I'm not mistaken.

 

Hallia you're doing that "looking scummy" thing again....im not liking it FWIW.

 

Sounds like you're confusing rhetoric for a statement.