Sherlock Holmes Role Madness Mafia Town wins

[hazelkrs1]

I need blood pressure medication. Oh yeah, my delicious chicken curry!

 

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[Krakalakachkn]

Des, you're not looking good here. Your entire "case" on Chae rests upon her defense of Thane. I would entirely agree with what you're saying if Chae could have known Thane was a symp when she started defending him.

 

Looking back it's pretty obvious that there is no way in hell Chae could have possibly known Thane was a symp at the time she started defending him. Your entire case falls apart due to that fact. Add in that they're married (which I did not know) and both newish and it looks like you're knowingly pushing a bad case because it's an easy lunch.

[csarmi]

Morning all.

 

Just thought of something. What is standard for a symp to know on this site?

Depends on mod. Lots of versions.

 

Any or none of:

 

Mafia members known

QT access

 

Mafia sometimes can rec the symp by guessing at night. Sometimes by killing. Sometimes both or none.

 

Thane did claim symp day two BTW (says he sympathies with them). My guess is he knew the names but not the qt.

[csarmi]

And. Yes .

 

NotBob hints need to be analyzed.

[TheRagnarok]

So correct me if I'm wrong.  Based on how the symp works here...Thane may or may not have known who any of the scum are.  The scum may or may not have known before his claim that he was a symp.  But by the time he claimed, he was likely viewed as damaged goods regardless so wouldn't have received any support anyways.

 

We can't really assume anything too much past this that isn't pure speculation. 

[csarmi]

From how he acted I'd say he kept trying to signal the Mafia so he wouldn't have QT access.

 

Symp not knowing Mafia members is very rare Ithink.

[TheRagnarok]

Where did he claim again?  I'd be interested to see if anyone jumped on following the claim.  That could be scum wanting to get points for taking out the symp if they(as I think they did) assumed him to be a lost cause.

[csarmi]

I can't search from phone. ISO him.

 

Was day two I think.

[Krakalakachkn]

This game is infuriating and catching up is making my blood boil.

[csarmi]

Are you kraking up?

[hazelkrs1]

Sup everyone

 

Had a bit of a mini-breakdown earlier lol, long story. Or at least too self-incriminating of a story

 

Will try and attack this with renewed mental vigor some other time

[hazelkrs1]

Just wanna give a shout out and thanks to Emerson Lake and Palmer

 

This song helped me pull through big time lol

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89g1P_J40JA

[Niniel]

I´m still willing to vote Chae/Krak, Lenlo and Hally. I could also go with Csarmi. 

 

[v] Krak [/v]

 

It´s not only that Chae defended Thane. She wrote that strange list, she claimed JoaT (a role we now know that Thane pointed out as possible mafia role) and then self voted. In the end Thane defended her as well. 

 

 Lenlo went even higher on my list because of the "three mafia".

[Hallia]

You make a good point regarding them both, Tina.  I left work early, so I'm just sitting by the phone, will be trying to formulate some more thoughts, but in the meantime

 

Vote Krak

[Niniel]

Dice - I´m not lurking, but as you can see I´m not as active as I am in some games. 

[Mrs. Cindy Gill]

Vote count:

 

csarmi (1): turin

chak (3): des, Tina, hally

des (1): csarmi

Tina (1): dice

 

Not voting (6): Chak, Len, Rags, Tsuki, BFG, Pral

 

 

 

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch DL is Fri. June 27th at 9 PM EST.

 

Http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20140627T21&p0=422

[Lenlo]

Chak and CS are my to biggest ones still. I dont trust them, nor have I liked their play all game. Neither have done anything to redeem prior actions imo.

 

So [v]Csarmi[/v] for the sake of competing trains.

[TheRagnarok]

So Thane basically admitted to being symp in post #1234.  So looking at the people around that claim that voted...in #1231, Des said that he thought Thane was the symp and voted for him.  in #1232, the person with the symbol name votes for him.  #1242, Len hops on saying that he could do Thane too.  #1249, Tina hops on saying she is ok with getting him first.

 

Those are the 4 that surround that claim, I included the first two because if the scum group figured out he was symp, they could have gone ahead and acted to cut losses.  The Len and Tina votes stand out because they came after the claim and both were in a 'sure, why not?' tone I could see scum adopting considering the circumstances.  And neither seemed to want to discuss it much more than that at that time.  Also to note on the two of them is that both voted for Thane early on, then moved to Chae D2 before coming back to Thane in the mentioned posts.  I'm thinking that scum could have figured out that Thane was symp and initially tried to save him by moving to Chae, but when that failed, cut their losses and went back to Thane. 

 

Need to read through some more tonight to figure out which way to go. 

[Lenlo]

You say I moved from Thane, but I didnt choose to move from him. The gladiatory match forced me to get off him and by the end of that day Chae's actions were worse imo.

[Mrs. Cindy Gill]

Vote count:

 

csarmi (2): Turin, Len

chak (3): des, Tina, hally

des (1): csarmi

Tina (1): dice

Not voting (5): Chak, Rags, Tsuki, BFG, Pral

 

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch DL is Fri. June 27th at 9 PM

 

Http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20140627T21&p0=422

[TheRagnarok]

You stated that Thane > Chae and discussed why he was scummy much more often than Chae before voting for her.  A vote isn't necessarily needed in order for someone to shift. 

[dicetosser1]

then while i have you talk to me tina.

 

Whats ure take on the game? Your reads?

[Turin Turambar]

You say I moved from Thane, but I didnt choose to move from him. The gladiatory match forced me to get off him and by the end of that day Chae's actions were worse imo.

Can you make your chae/krak case?

 

Do you think csarmi is worse of the two?

[Krakalakachkn]

I´m still willing to vote Chae/Krak, Lenlo and Hally. I could also go with Csarmi. 

 

[v] Krak [/v]

 

It´s not only that Chae defended Thane. She wrote that strange list, she claimed JoaT (a role we now know that Thane pointed out as possible mafia role) and then self voted. In the end Thane defended her as well. 

 

 Lenlo went even higher on my list because of the "three mafia".

So what you're saying is that even though Thane couldn't have known the roles that the mafia had, Chae just decided to claim a role that Thane (who as per you and Des was defending Thane bc she knew he was scum) had listed as a possible mafia role.

 

 

Because yeah, that makes sense.

[Krakalakachkn]

Looking back at her posts I think it's pretty obvious Chae was derptown rather than derpscum.

 

 

 

 

Suspicious of Ithi/Rags and Tina atm - and yes I realize that my saying that will be seen as an OMGUS.

 

 

 

I was suspicious of Des too until I realize the Gladiotor showdown had forced him into abandoning the Thane lynch D1.

 

 

Ithi's play looked pretty good up until her awful 180 degree flip on Thane and charge at Mynd.