Mistborn Mafia: The Hemalurgic Spike

[WWWwombat]

Vote: AH

[Myndrunner]

I had two trackings last night, one of them was on Wwwombat. Guess who he targeted? Ironeyes.

 

Care to explain this Wwwombat?

 

...and I've lost my metal now. Whoever stole it, I've kept it down my pants. Enjoy!

[WWWwombat]

Yeah, I killed him. I spiked him too. I've been stolen from on both nights btw. Whoever stole from me last night took my kill.

[Razen]

Now I'm not so sure who we should go after. If Wombat visited Ironeyes, that's a high chance that he's likely scum. But I viewed Maw last night and I got a Solo Win condition back as my result. So the tradeoff (if Mynd can be believed) is between scum and probably an SK.

 

Vote: Maw. If he is an SK, we take him out and we can stop two deaths a night. With information like Mynd's being revealed, however, it's up to you all what you decide to do. I can go with a Wombat lynch as well.

 

And, on a side note, whomever tried to steal my Finder power last night, the joke's on you, isn't it? I wasn't kidding about it not being in play.

[WWWwombat]

I'm town. I got my kill by stealing from Songstress N1. She had Feruchemic Steel; I took Allomantic.

[Netbattler11]

I lost all internet this weekend and just got it back. I have to go to bed now and will post more in the morning.

[Ironeyes]

Well, I’ll see you all later. Good luck.

(@Mynd: Told you so.) (@Everyone else: I bet he’s the one who killed me)

 

As for the powers that just died with me: I had Feruchemical iron, which stores weight (decoy ability); and Allomantic cerrobend, which makes time go faster in a bubble around the user (lets a player extend a day/night for 12 hours).

[WWWwombat]

Ironeyes I didn't read that but no game info should be posted once ur dead. U should edit.

[Ironeyes]

I can't get it to edit!!! STUPID NEW WEBSITE DESIGN!!! I want the old one back.

[Blackhoof]

heh, well, Maw or Wombat...

 

well, wombat could be a Vig but Maw could be a survivor.....

 

i will go

 

vote maw

[Myndrunner]

Actually, right now any solo-win is an ally to us against the Mafia. We need to lynch Wombat at this time, and I'd like to know why Razen isn't telling us everything he knows about Wombat.

[hazelkrs1]

I had two trackings last night, one of them was on Wwwombat. Guess who he targeted? Ironeyes.

 

Care to explain this Wwwombat?

 

...and I've lost my metal now. Whoever stole it, I've kept it down my pants. Enjoy!

 

Hmmm, the plot thickens! Wombat claims to have stolen a NK ability, used it to kill a townie, than claims to have lost that ability again. Seems kinda convenient to me.

 

heh, well, Maw or Wombat...

 

well, wombat could be a Vig but Maw could be a survivor.....

 

i will go

 

vote maw

 

Your logic here really confuses me. Wombat could be a Vig, but he could also easily be a SK lying to stay alive. He seems like a bigger threat and also a better chance for catching scum at this point. After all, usually the first kill listed is the mafia's kill, the second is usually a third party one. Not saying this is always the case, but from what I've seen it's the norm. And if Maw is a survivor, there's really not much harm to him being in the game, and he could def be a good asset for us to use against mafia.

 

Actually, right now any solo-win is an ally to us against the Mafia. We need to lynch Wombat at this time, and I'd like to know why Razen isn't telling us everything he knows about Wombat.

 

Did Razen hint at knowing more about Wombat? I missed that.

 

Anyways Wombat def looks like the best option for a lynch today. Best case scenario we net scum, second best we take out a SK, worst case we take out a Vig-turned Vanilla (unless Wombat has some other ability he hasn't divulged).

[Niniel]

I could edit his post but now some of us has already read it so I think it would be unfair to delete it now. Just remember to not post game related information once you are dead next time, Ironeyes.

 

I need to re-read a bit because I think I have forgotten most of what has been said.

[Blackhoof]

I had two trackings last night, one of them was on Wwwombat. Guess who he targeted? Ironeyes.

 

Care to explain this Wwwombat?

 

...and I've lost my metal now. Whoever stole it, I've kept it down my pants. Enjoy!

 

Hmmm, the plot thickens! Wombat claims to have stolen a NK ability, used it to kill a townie, than claims to have lost that ability again. Seems kinda convenient to me.

 

heh, well, Maw or Wombat...

 

well, wombat could be a Vig but Maw could be a survivor.....

 

i will go

 

vote maw

 

Your logic here really confuses me. Wombat could be a Vig, but he could also easily be a SK lying to stay alive. He seems like a bigger threat and also a better chance for catching scum at this point. After all, usually the first kill listed is the mafia's kill, the second is usually a third party one. Not saying this is always the case, but from what I've seen it's the norm. And if Maw is a survivor, there's really not much harm to him being in the game, and he could def be a good asset for us to use against mafia.

 

Actually, right now any solo-win is an ally to us against the Mafia. We need to lynch Wombat at this time, and I'd like to know why Razen isn't telling us everything he knows about Wombat.

 

Did Razen hint at knowing more about Wombat? I missed that.

 

Anyways Wombat def looks like the best option for a lynch today. Best case scenario we net scum, second best we take out a SK, worst case we take out a Vig-turned Vanilla (unless Wombat has some other ability he hasn't divulged).

I had two trackings last night, one of them was on Wwwombat. Guess who he targeted? Ironeyes.

 

Care to explain this Wwwombat?

 

...and I've lost my metal now. Whoever stole it, I've kept it down my pants. Enjoy!

 

Hmmm, the plot thickens! Wombat claims to have stolen a NK ability, used it to kill a townie, than claims to have lost that ability again. Seems kinda convenient to me.

 

heh, well, Maw or Wombat...

 

well, wombat could be a Vig but Maw could be a survivor.....

 

i will go

 

vote maw

 

Your logic here really confuses me. Wombat could be a Vig, but he could also easily be a SK lying to stay alive. He seems like a bigger threat and also a better chance for catching scum at this point. After all, usually the first kill listed is the mafia's kill, the second is usually a third party one. Not saying this is always the case, but from what I've seen it's the norm. And if Maw is a survivor, there's really not much harm to him being in the game, and he could def be a good asset for us to use against mafia.

 

Actually, right now any solo-win is an ally to us against the Mafia. We need to lynch Wombat at this time, and I'd like to know why Razen isn't telling us everything he knows about Wombat.

 

Did Razen hint at knowing more about Wombat? I missed that.

 

Anyways Wombat def looks like the best option for a lynch today. Best case scenario we net scum, second best we take out a SK, worst case we take out a Vig-turned Vanilla (unless Wombat has some other ability he hasn't divulged).

 

hmmmm.....

 

good point.

 

i wasnt really thinking it though anyway.

 

unvote, vote wombat

[Myndrunner]

Here is why I think Razen might be full of crap. I tracked two people last night, Wwwombat and Razen. Wwwombat targeted Ironeyes, of which he freely admits. Razen targeted two people last night, Maw and Wwwombat.

 

This isn't a normal mafia game, where I don't think there are finders, healers, or vigs per se but the alloys and compounds and such give its possessor the power.

 

unvote

 

Vote Razen

 

This lynch makes better sense. There is a finder ability floating around out there somewhere, I know this as fact because I had it. Why would there be a permanent finder in a game of this nature?

 

If Razen flips town and is indeed a finder, we haven't lost much because of the other powers out there PLUS whoever stole the VIG from Wwwombat knows who to kill with it. I think it is much more likey that Razen is lying through his razor sharp teeths and is scum.

[Niniel]

Wombat - why did you kill Ironeyes?

 

Waiting to hear from Maw and Razen too.

 

I have done a reread, or more like a reskim. Can´t say I´m much wiser. Leaving the above aside I´m suspicious of GF and AH. Also looking at Des and Ishy.

[Blackhoof]

@Mynd: you make no sense and make me feel uneasy.

[Myndrunner]

@Mynd: you make no sense and make me feel uneasy.

 

How so?

 

Razen claims to be a permanent Finder in a game where roles are "Spiked" from each other. We can go through with the Wwwombat lynch, but if he flips town, it should prove Razen is full of crap. Whoever took the Vigilante power from Wwwwombat, kill Razen if Wwwombat flips town. He viewed him last night in addition to Maw, and claims he's scum.

 

unvote

 

vote Wwwombat

[Niniel]

Mafia needs to have a kill that can´t be stolen, right? Then town would need to have powers that can´t be stolen as well, like doc or cop. Or maybe mafia can´t steal at all? Locke couldn´t let mafia steal cop or doc powers. I don´t know what to think about a third party player. A survivor might steal and be stolen from. There can´t be a SK if he can´t be stolen from.

 

Not defending or accusing anyone with these thoughts. Just want to hear what the rest of you think.

[Niniel]

Correction - there can´t be a SK if he can be stolen from. A SK that can´t kill isn´t much of a SK.

[WWWwombat]

I killed Ironeyes because he didn't have much of a voting record. I also thought it might give info on Mynd and Player. Mynd was gearing up for an Ironeyes lynch imo and Player had suggested that Ironeyes and Mynd were running some kind of gambit. Had Ironeyes flipped scum, I would be going hard after Player. Ironeyes flipping town raises my suspicion of Mynd somewhat but I am still undecided on him. I think it would be most profitable to go after AH today.

[Razen]

First off, yes, I targeted both Maw and Wombat. I used my Finder ability on Maw and I tried spiking from Wombat, but I got a failed result.

 

Tell me how a solo-win can benefit us? He has to be the last one standing to survive. So even if he did try to help the town out by using his feelings and suspicions to kill people he thought was scum, he has a much higher chance of hitting a townie than scum with his nightkills. So we keep dwindling by two townies a night (at least). So I see it as an anti-town role, for now.

 

Now I'm not so sure who we should go after. If Wombat visited Ironeyes, that's a high chance that he's likely scum. But I viewed Maw last night and I got a Solo Win condition back as my result. So the tradeoff (if Mynd can be believed) is between scum and probably an SK.

 

Vote: Maw. If he is an SK, we take him out and we can stop two deaths a night. With information like Mynd's being revealed, however, it's up to you all what you decide to do. I can go with a Wombat lynch as well.

 

And, on a side note, whomever tried to steal my Finder power last night, the joke's on you, isn't it? I wasn't kidding about it not being in play.

 

Unless I can somehow magically use my Finder power on two people per night, I couldn't have used it on Wombat. And besides, I said that he was LIKELY scum based on your tracking of him visiting Ironeyes last night and the fact that Ironeyes is now dead. I don't know about Wombat's alignment at all - I can only suspect.

 

@Mynd: you make no sense and make me feel uneasy.

 

How so?

 

Razen claims to be a permanent Finder in a game where roles are "Spiked" from each other. We can go through with the Wwwombat lynch, but if he flips town, it should prove Razen is full of crap. Whoever took the Vigilante power from Wwwwombat, kill Razen if Wwwombat flips town. He viewed him last night in addition to Maw, and claims he's scum.

 

unvote

 

vote Wwwombat

 

Your whole case on Wombat is built on the assumption that I viewed him. I didn't use my Finder power on him, therefore how can you say I claim that he's scum? Something smells fishy to me here...

[WWWwombat]

Do you know Maw's win condition or are you just assuming he's an SK?

[Razen]

I'm assuming an SK unless he says otherwise. I don't know the exact win condition - all I was told was Solo Win.

[Myndrunner]

Yeah, if he's a Jester, he's gonna say "I'm a Jester! I win if ya'll lynch me so lynch me!" Of course, if he ISN'T a jester, he should say the same thing.

 

Dude, there are many solo-win possibilities, but regardless, one thing remains, and you said it yourself. A Solo-Win can only win Solo, which means the Mafia is just as much a threat to them as we are. If he is a SK, then he is just as much a threat to the mafia as to us, and if we agree not to lynch him, he can start helping us whittle down the Mafia first, who should have already considered using their NK on him by now.

 

Besides, we only had 2 night kills last night. One was allegedly from Wwwomby's Vig while the other was likely the scum, looking for the big set-up with Songstress death.

 

Also, in my calculations, I didn't figure that spikes would be read in my trackings. Wwwomby, did you spike anyone last night?