Harry Potter Mafia Maddness <Game Over - Congrads Town & Siblings>

[Thorum]

[glow=red,2,300]Unvote[/glow]. Seems I was wrong. No hard feelings, I hope, Tigs?  :-*

 

Taei and Meesh: so you're voting me on the slim chance I got recruited. Smart choice >:(

Who pointed Jeran out above the other players with one vote? I would really have done that were I in a team with Voldy...

 

[glow=red,2,300]meesh[/glow].

 

For a couple of reasons

- inactivity;

- becoming active immediately after being mentioned as an inactive;

- The next post gets two mafia goals dones: fishing and appearing glad Voldy is dead.

So, who had the brilliant idea of targeting Jeran last night?  Whoever you are, thank you.

- He has voted for me while, had I not known my own alignment, I'm objectively the fourth less likely mafia;

- I always forget her gender.

 

 

Red, I LOVE short deadlines.

When will you modkill the inactives? Say, everyone who hasn't posted since the DM downtime?

[Red2111]

Deadline

Sat July 10th @ 2pm CST; 18 alive, 10 to lynch

 

Vote Count

Meesh(1): Thorum

Thorums (2): Meesh, Taei

 

No Vote (16): Boopsy, Krak, Tigs, Lia, Dah, Mottlee, Wolfie, Adella, Verbal, Elli, Alanna, Wombat, Pookie, Crusher, Tayla

 

Thorum - you love short deadlines about as much as i HATE MKing players.  

 

i try to avoid Mking like its a plague, but sadly in this game it seems to be a symptom i just can't shake, and multiplies as well ....  

 

player activity is a reflection of the mod for the most part, so the player inactivity is mostly my fault.

 

i can try replacements again, unless you guys feel that will make things worse.

 

 

 

[Wayward_fool]

I'm personally anti-replacements coz it messes around with the playstyle. Like, it really confuses me and stuff... *sighs* I think that it's a matter of things happening quicker.

 

It can't be helped with a game this huge, which is why I prefer smaller games, but if we have this many players, there's bound to be people getting lost in the whole rampage of posts and deciding they don't want to read so many posts and just become inactive. Especially coz voting without reasonable explanation is scummy. So in the end people just keep quiet, and thinking that'll keep them under radar and not get lynched or NKed. BUT IF YOU DO THAT YOU'RE NOT PLAYING ANYWAY!!! *pokes* Which means it wouldn't make a difference if you were lynched OR Nked.

 

People here keep saying let's keep them coz they are just inactive. Well if you're inactive, you're not doing the town a favour so ya might as well as lynched. *grumbles*

 

[Pookie]

Taei and Meesh: so you're voting me on the slim chance I got recruited. Smart choice >:(

Who pointed Jeran out above the other players with one vote? I would really have done that were I in a team with Voldy...

Um, Jeran didn't kill himself.  The ministry did, which means that Jeran and the ministry weren't on the same team.  We've seen that a) the ministry is anti-town and b) they had a recruiter.  So you wouldn't have been on a team with Jeran if the ministry had recruited you, so how does you pointing a FOS at him make you town?

 

I do find it interesting how many times people say the mafia target known innocents and yet we're into day 7 with 9 NKs and 7 other assorted non-lynch kills and you're still around after revealing day 1.  I was also reminded when looking over the dead list that the kill you claimed on Wolfie/Cedric was called "might of the ministry" and involved dementors, which could be completely coincidental given the timing but still seems odd.  I remember you claimed it as a reward for making the 100th post in the thread and I see that there were only about 5-ish hours between your miller claim and Wolfie's death scene which makes the chances of a day recruit in that time slot much slimmer so this is probably significantly more trivia than suspicion.  It's just unusual given the part the dementors have played in the game since that use of them.

 

I need to stew more before I vote.  Maybe someone will have something new to throw in the pot because right now it's a mucky mess of WIFOM.  Claiming miller and being believed is like screaming "recruit me!" but it's hard to decide if phase 1 would have left a recruiter feeling comfortable enough about you surviving to spend the recruit.  You had a reasonable explanation for why you had the might of the ministry power, but it seems odd that the dementors would be used for a purpose not directly related to the ministry team.

[Thorum]

I do find it interesting how many times people say the mafia target known innocents and yet we're into day 7 with 9 NKs and 7 other assorted non-lynch kills and you're still around after revealing day 1.

Three things:

- Luck

- Thank god for healers

- Where or how does this make me more likely to be on the OTHER mafia team?

 

I was also reminded when looking over the dead list that the kill you claimed on Wolfie/Cedric was called "might of the ministry" and involved dementors, which could be completely coincidental given the timing but still seems odd.

I could have told you both of these thing without having to check the dead list, since they're in my 'Congrats for the 100th post' pm. And why would I lie about this? I couldn't have been recruited at the time, so back then I WAS a 100% confirmed innocent (well, the confirmation followed after, that's what I mean)...

 

 

I'm tempted to change my vote to you: you try getting other people to go first on a bandwagon against me, but use arguments which date back from day 1, where NO WAY could I have possibly been mafia. Unless you see something in that regard?

 

My vote stays on Meesh for now, because we need to get rid of the inactives. However, the reasoning against Pookie in this post are at least as sound.

[Pookie]

I see that there were only about 5-ish hours between your miller claim and Wolfie's death scene which makes the chances of a day recruit in that time slot much slimmer so this is probably significantly more trivia than suspicion.  It's just unusual given the part the dementors have played in the game since that use of them.

 

I underlined the part that described the thought process I was working on when I saw that bit in the dead notes -- I considered that Aust's recruit might have been a day recruit (and that your day kill might have been a result of being recruited, but I don't know if I connected those dots well enough in the earlier post).  I also underlined the part that explained what I thought of that theory -- that it was a very slim chance (5 hours just isn't a big enough time window).  I bolded my conclusion -- that it was more trivia than suspicion, meaning I find it an odd thing for the mod to include dementors as both a mafia's kill method and a townie's bonus item.  I can see the lack of clarity on that when I reread, but what I'm getting at is that I considered that angle given the current accusations that you may have been recruited and felt that at least for that kill you had not been.  I'm still reading further.

 

I'm not trying to start a bandwagon on you.  I am going back to day one because phase one is when Aust's recruit could have happened.  The might of the ministry and dementor thing bothered me, but based on the timeline of when you claimed miller, when you received the bonus, and when the kill went through I'm inclined to believe that you got it the way you said you did.  I didn't explain that well. 

 

I do find it interesting how many times people say the mafia target known innocents and yet we're into day 7 with 9 NKs and 7 other assorted non-lynch kills and you're still around after revealing day 1.

 

I want to explain this more too.  You asked why it made you more likely to be on the other mafia team.  If you are on the ministry team, half those NKs would not be directed at you, meaning you were not picked 6 times rather than 12 times, which would make your survival chances mathematically better.  That is only if there aren't other factors at work and there certainly have been.  A review of the kill targets:

 

Avada Kedavera: Aust (1), Amadine (2), Adella (3), Bela/Charis (4), Dar (5)

Dementors: Meesh (2), Boopsy (3), Locke (4), Dar (5), Jaren (6)

 

It looks to me like the ministry has been aiming for folks they think can out them and Jeran was having trouble spelling names that start with later letters in the alphabet.  :P  I think Amadine was probably used as a litmus test to make sure both of your claims were accurate and that you weren't part of the "other team" posing as millers.  Had any of the rest of the AK's NK team revealed besides Dar's hint?

 

[Thorum]

I'm not trying to start a bandwagon on you.

Of course not. I only just got 2 votes (which would on the previous day almost be enough to get me lynched), you're inventing reasons why everyone should vote for me, and don't dare putting the vote there yourself. Don't worry, had I been recruited, NO ONE ALIVE WOULD KNOW.

 

meaning you were not picked 6 times rather than 12 times, which would make your survival chances mathematically better.  That is only if there aren't other factors at work and there certainly have been.

For statistics you have to extract the 'known' factors. This one works. Even though it's a very small factor, but it actually works.

[WWWwombat]

So you would have killed those who had recruited you?

[Taei]

I'm going back and looking at this incredibly long thread once more, because something was eating at my memory, something that I just couldn't quite remember but knew that was amiss. Day 1 Thorum claimed miller, and his main an it loos like only defender was Jeran (Voldemort), and we should leave you alone why?

That was a lie. I know why wolfie died, but it was not because he voted for me. If anything, that helped him. I got a vig kill (I'm not gonna say why, it would take all the fun away ;D), and wanted to lynch someone inactive on one of the people with 2 or more votes. Wolfie was, at the time, the only one agreeing with both those terms. Had there been any on someone else who answered to both these condition, I would have chosen him/her.

Still don't believe that you had the town's best interest at heart with that one or you would have waited in day one to find someone who looked suspicious instead of rushing and killing Wolfie's original character without any backing other than that they weren't active enough for you.

 

He also said that he was on a team with Amadine, which she backed up. Thorum was claiming that he was Dung and Ama was claiming Sirius.

 

Then when Thorum killed Wolfie and they came back as another player he automatically said that they were more than likely mafia, even though it doesn't even make sense. Again backed by Jeran.

 

Quite honestly, you saying over and over that you're a confirmed innocent really doesn't cut it in my book. So, tell me Thorum, why should we NOT vote for you?

[Thorum]

He also said that he was on a team with Amadine, which she backed up. Thorum was claiming that he was Dung and Ama was claiming Sirius.

 

And Amadine got killed and revealed as Sirius.

Answer enough?

 

I would LOVE stopping claiming confirmed innocent. Will you let me?

 

It does make sense to replace mafia before the others, even though I realise there's few people agreeing with me on that point. I've already elaborately discussed this point earlier in the game.

 

 

I see you're again talking about me, me, and me. We need to find mafia, not reiterate how unfortunate it is a certain Thorum has been confirmed Dung. I've given cause on two people already today. I haven't seen any reasoning from someone else.

[Taei]

I was thinking Ama was still alive.... *sigh* Anyways, I still feel something fishy going on, but I will [glow=red,2,300]unvote[/glow] for the moment, till I can get my train of thought straight again. This game can give you a headache trying to keep track of everything that's going on.

[Alanna]

Personally, Thorum jumped on my radar yesterday when he said that the confirmed innocents (Crusher, Taei, and Boopsy) could have been recruited; then when I agreed and threw his name into the mix, he suddenly said we shouldn't worry about those people until later on in the game. [glow=red,2,300]Thorum[/glow] for now. I usually wait until later to place a vote, but these shorter deadlines have got my head all screwed (though I do agree they are necessary).

[Talya]

WHAT!!!

 

I'm not dead! *sighs*

 

It was the DM crash that threw me out with this game, so I'm going blind!

 

[glow=red,2,300]Thorum[/glow]

[mmeeshal]

What I want to know, Thorum, is how the hell I went from being "less active than usual" (which is metagaming and also which I explained the reasons for my slightly lessened activity), to being "inactive scum who suddenly became active when she was called on it," to being "an inactive player who needs to be lynched because she's not helping the town." All after I voted for you. Make up your mind.

[Thorum]

much less active than Pookie, hence more vote-worthy.

[mmeeshal]

But that's what I don't get: How have I been inactive?  When was I active all over the rest of DM but specifically not active here?

 

I haven't been inactive.  Less active than you must be accustomed to seeing me in a mafia game, but my activity in games ebbs and flows anyway, depending on how much I feel I can contribute, as well as what's going on in my life.  Right now, I'm less enthusiastic about the game, not because I don't want to play, but because it feels like it takes too much energy that I don't really want to expend. Lazy, apathetic, depressed, whatever you want to call it, I don't care as much about the game at the moment as you obviously think I should.

 

At any rate, what I was going to say, is addressed to the town:

 

If you guys feel you need more time to, I dunno, figure things out about people, go ahead and lynch me.  I'm serious.  You will be lynching a townie, but you won't lose a townie overnight, because you will not have a Night Phase.  You will go directly into Day 8.  That'll give you more discussion time and time to make cases and review.

 

I personally think Thorum's grasping at straws and stretching the truth just to have a reason to lynch me, which doesn't make him look any more innocent, so my vote is going to stay on him, but the rest of you, feel free to let me swing, if you want to have another Day phase to carry on in with no interruption from the Night.

[Adella]

Have you ever pondered on the possibility of time and squash?

[Red2111]

Deadline

Sat July 10th @ 2pm CST; 18 alive, 10 to lynch

 

Vote Count

Thorums (3): Meesh, Alanna, Tayla

Meesh(1): Thorum

 

 

No Vote (15): Boopsy, Krak, Tigs, Lia, Dah, Mottlee, Wolfie, Adella, Verbal, Elli, Wombat, Pookie, Crusher, Taei

 

 

[Talya]

*giggles*

 

you have Thorums...he is many.. yes?!

[Adella]

The many and the few are eating lemons.

[Tigraine]

[glow=red,2,300]Unvote[/glow]. Seems I was wrong. No hard feelings, I hope, Tigs?  :-*

 

 

Absolutely not  :-*  I'm sorry I got so bent outta shape about that guys.  It wasn't the vote that bothered me...this is mafia, votes happen.  I just didn't want people to vote me for thinking I would fake family emergencies.  I'm sorry that I ruined the tempo of the game there for a bit.  Carry on  ;D

[Adella]

Kerpunkles and whosndos are dancing across the plains!

[Alanna]

I actually was going to comment about Meesh supposedly being inactive, because I could've sworn someone said she was inactive and then suddenly became active again...but I think maybe people are getting confused and forgetting that Meesh actually died and then came back to replace someone? So, sure, she wasn't around for a while because she was out of the game. Both before she died and after, however, she has seemed pretty active to me. Much more than a lot of other players (I could name names but I don't like calling people out like that...)

[Adella]

Two pence and a sixth sense will get you a burnt noodle.

[Red2111]

deadline has been extended by 2 hours due to me having to be at a birthday party for mamaw.  it's at noon and theres a slime chance will be done by 2, but we should be home somewhere around 3 or 4ish.  will end day when i get home.

 

Deadline

Sat July 10th @ 3 or 4pm CST; 18 alive, 10 to lynch

 

Vote Count

Thorums (3): Meesh, Alanna, Tayla

Meesh(1): Thorum

 

 

No Vote (15): Boopsy, Krak, Tigs, Lia, Dah, Mottlee, Wolfie, Adella, Verbal, Elli, Wombat, Pookie, Crusher, Taei