GOD COMPLEX Game Over

[Zander?]

Just now, Clovdyx said:

 

Layer?

 

I barely KNOW 'er!

 

Legir Lolololold in rl

[Zander?]

3 minutes ago, Illian Tear said:

Sorry

 

Theres a way you can make it up to me...lol.

 

Whats your rwads looking like now?

[Illian Tear]

Just now, Zanatron said:

 

Theres a way you can make it up to me...lol.

 

Whats your rwads looking like now?

Clov is town for me.

You seem town.

Tripped seems town.

 

Null everyone else.

[TrippedOnReality]

2 minutes ago, Illian Tear said:

Clov is town for me.

You seem town.

Tripped seems town.

 

Null everyone else.

 

Of your null reads, who do you want to sort out the most and why?

[Katiora]

2 hours ago, Illian Tear said:

Ok, sorry I haven't been posting much, still not used to this, anyway. 

 

I choose you because based on the last 2 games I played with you, this seems similar to those in which you were town.

.... Clov will burn you badly one day... lol just saying. 

[Ironeyes]

On 3/23/2019 at 4:05 PM, Darthe said:

1 Andrej

2 Wildfire Sedai

3 Illian Tear

4 Hallia

5 Zanatron

6 Clovdyx

7 TrippedOnReality

8 dicetosser1

9 Ironeyes

10 BFG

11 Katiora

12 Nynaeve

Just for the sake of organizing myself, this is my over-generalized take on the game so far. 

AJ is AWOL

Wifi, IDK. I want ISOs back. 

IT townreads Clov for no apparent reason

Hallia made two good posts, one for each time she's been in thread

Zander is tunneling as usual

Clov is being humble about his skill, townreading Dice, and sussing Wifi and BFG

Tripped pinged me for a while, then continued asking everyone their opinions

Dice snap read Zander and argued with Clov

I am me, and tautologies are tautologies 

BFG similar to Halli, but being drilled into by half the thread

Kat I'm willing to town lean based on tone

Nyn is engaged, reminds me of town games I've played with her in the past

[Ironeyes]

I'm gonna go ligate some vectors, then read back through pages 20-end while our bacteria incubate. And yes, I definitely do enjoy talking about my studies ?

[Wildfire Sedai]

On 3/26/2019 at 11:24 AM, Clovdyx said:

If you had to yolo a shot right now, who would it be? And why is it WiFi?

 

see my answer about setup below.  I probably should have addressed this anyway, somehow when I read it but almost every time I have ever challenged stuff, I seem to have done it the wrong way and been almost or have been lynched for it and I have been a bit distracted this game.  

 

21 hours ago, Clovdyx said:

## Vote WildFire

 

Fight me, @dicetosser1.

 

I figured this was joke vote to get dice going, so I just ignored it.

 

20 hours ago, Clovdyx said:

The only game I remember playing with WiFi is Sooh's Spirited Away game.  I'm 99.9 percent sure I've played with her other games, but that's the only thing that comes to mind off the top of my head.  She was town.

 

In all of my 15/20 games or thereabouts, I think I "randed" mafia once/twice, one time I subbed in, and the other time there was no town (another Darthe game).

 

20 hours ago, Clovdyx said:

 

Bold - Yes.  Maybe not for her... I'm looking at the database now, and the only games I played with her were SA (T/T) and Demon's Cove (M/T).  Then she played a game I modded... but there's a whole theory based around "awkward posts tend to come from scum" which is stupid and pretty rand to be from anyone.

 

But my "issue" isn't the thought process.  It's the set up and the outcome.

 

What do you mean by the set up? As for outcome: what is the issue? I didn't vote kat did I ??  If I did I don't remember it.  I was waiting for her to respond, she did, I'm okay with her response. Still doesn't make her town and still can't read her.

 

20 hours ago, Clovdyx said:

But I'm fine with YOU protesting this.

 

One of the reasons I haven't responded to a lot of stuff.  The other is mentioned above.  People seem to object when I respond to certain things, so I stopped responding to them.

 

20 hours ago, Clovdyx said:

I mean introducing something as basically "this is either a scumslip or it's not!" and then doing nothing to resolve it.  And eight posts later, she said Kat was null to her.

 

Because you're right - she does come up with some stuff that makes sense to her and not everybody else.  And what I remember is actually pushing it.  It's not a full on Zander/Sili tunnel.  That's not her.  

 

Kat is null to me.  I accepted her response to my post.  However, that is NAI because, I realized that my thought process was a little out there, hence the way I set-up the statement/question.  I wasn't sure of my own thoughts.  I expected the kind of response I go from her.

 

20 hours ago, Clovdyx said:

When Town!Cory sees something off to him, he makes a point about and tries to make discussion happen.

When Town!Tripped sees something off her, she asks about it and gathers opinions.  Zander beats it over the head with a wooden spoon until the spoon breaks.

 

This doesn't even seem like she cared about it.

 

I cared about it.  However, I was second guessing my own thoughts.  Also, like I said I am a bit distracted.  This is not AtE. 

 

15 hours ago, Clovdyx said:

I'm basically null on about half the game right now, and that's really frustrating.  I'm pretty sure I could lynch anybody in WiFi/Illian/Hallia/Nyn and be happy, and that's not even including AJ.  Or factoring in the stuff from Wifi, Illian, and BFG I'm actually concerned with.

 

I am guessing you want to lynch me because I am not fitting into the meta you have of me this game?

 

1 hour ago, Clovdyx said:

I talked about you a lot yesterday, Wifi.  If you want to reply to it, that'd be cool.

 

Otherwise, who are you suspicious of? Who do you think is town?

I will answer this a little later when I do an abridged reads list.

 

1 hour ago, Illian Tear said:

Go to my profile. All my posts should be there since I haven't posted much.

 

Okay will do.

 

Clov: These are the posts that I found that mention me.  I have answered them to the best of my ability.  I had to go back and reread the whole day, ? that's why it has taken me so long to post, plus lunch in there.

 

Iced TEA: I will do yours in a few.

 

 

[Clovdyx]

50 minutes ago, Ironeyes said:

Just for the sake of organizing myself, this is my over-generalized take on the game so far. 

AJ is AWOL

Wifi, IDK. I want ISOs back. 

IT townreads Clov for no apparent reason

Hallia made two good posts, one for each time she's been in thread

Zander is tunneling as usual

Clov is being humble about his skill, townreading Dice, and sussing Wifi and BFG

Tripped pinged me for a while, then continued asking everyone their opinions

Dice snap read Zander and argued with Clov

I am me, and tautologies are tautologies 

BFG similar to Halli, but being drilled into by half the thread

Kat I'm willing to town lean based on tone

Nyn is engaged, reminds me of town games I've played with her in the past

 

This is mostly right IMO.  I was making a mental list of really notable things (thread focuses) so far last night.

 

Zander's meta push on BFG

Dice's early reads

Wifi's argument on Kat

My thoughts on wifi

BFG discussion last night

 

Not sure if I'm missing anything

 

[Katiora]

... the fact that Kat is town and should be in blue at the top of everyone's list....

[Ironeyes]

OK I lied, I started with page 17. Up to the end of page 20

I'm trying to mentally filter out discussion of the Deity, since I know I can naturally glom onto PR discussion to the exclusion of old-fashioned scum hunting. 

 

23 hours ago, Clovdyx said:

Also, Iron's points against Tripped are mostly ~dumb from my POV, but they're very likely to come from town.  Like she said, she was sort of implying he might be town for his push, but his reaction to it seems like he genuinely thought she was shading him.  

 

I'd guess T/T, but it's pretty much never Mafia!Iron trying to force a mislynch.  

Yeah I thought she was comparing me to scum in an old game. 

Mafia!Iron doesn't really push mislynches, he's not confident enough for that. He'd rather play up the more opportunistic side of my normal playstyle. 

 

22 hours ago, dicetosser1 said:

ok so i have more experience of wifi  and i havent got her wrong yet.    so   you cant read wifi like ud normally read people.  you think I come at stuff from a weird direction?  im nothing compared to wifi. 

keep that in mind and read her post below then tell me if you can see that coming from scum?  cause i sure cant. especially not scum wifi.

I kind of want to town read Wifi based on this post. This is a relatively strong read from Dice for the available evidence. If Dice is town, I'm happy to sheep his read since I have a long history of mislynching Wifi. If he's scum, she's probably still town since he's not the kind of player to whiteknight his own teammates. 

 

General note for pages 19 and 20, BFG's posts mostly feel like fluff. Granted, she's busy, but I'd be more comfortable if the stuff she did have time to post were more substantial.  This is the only really solid post she made: 

20 hours ago, BFG said:

Dice is making the reads I expect him to make early, and although I agree with Chris  that more explanation would be nice I don't think yolo reads ATP are a bad look, but they're also the reads I'd expect him to make if he was mafia which makes the whole null lol

 

I think I like hallia for her read on marsh as it seems somewhat different to general reads and the casual reinforcement looks good 

 

 

 

21 hours ago, Darthe said:

Hmm.  You could all lynch the slot that hasn't arrived yet and save me some trouble. 

As tempting as it is to do this, lynching inactives on day 1 is as good as not having a day 1, and scum get to have the first real kill of the game.

[Clovdyx]

Only if the inactive is town.  I guarantee AJ isn't actively avoiding the thread because he randed town (finally).  He's completely rand to be anything.

[Nynaeve]

I got a test tomorrow so I cant catch up right now but I will tomorrow when I get back home.

[Clovdyx]

No, it has pretty much nothing to do with meta.  I've never seen you as mafia, so I HAVE no meta for you. I'd consider lynching you because I felt you were shading Kat off something insignificant with no attempt to resolve it or follow up.  I really dont mind if somebody thinks any post is worth pushing or questioning.  I mind a lot when it's the only thing brought up, suggests a scumread, and then goes nowhere. 

[Clovdyx]

"I accepted her response to my post.  However, that is NAI because, I realized that my thought process was a little out there, hence the way I set-up the statement/question.  I wasn't sure of my own thoughts.  I expected the kind of response I go from her."

 

This at least suggests you're trying to figure stuff out or care about her response.  It's also a hell of a lot different than the response from before .

[Clovdyx]

Reading her response as null is probably ~right.

 

I kind of like Iron's point about sheeping Dice, even if he's scum.  I don't know if he wouldnt whiteknight a teammate, but I think he"s probably right in this case.  Problem is I think Dice is town lol

[Wildfire Sedai]

about Iced TEA:

 

I didn't see any posts that would make him scum.  He only talkd about football (though his thoughts on this were kind of scummy  ) , about the deity (which I thought were null because everyone seemed to have same thoughts, except putting clov so high so early.  ? ), how he's "unreadable and unable to read," (I kinda feel the same way at times ? ), a reads list and answering other people with one word answers where the questions don't show up in his profile.  ☹️ 

 

[Ironeyes]

15 hours ago, dicetosser1 said:

bfgs catchup didnt really impress me one way or the other to be honest.

 

it seemed kinda chriscentric to me which doesnt help me read her

Echoing this. Dice and I are on the same wavelength today. 

 

12 hours ago, Nynaeve said:

I should prolly go back to work. Wouldn't want to disturb clov, bfg and ToR....  important people talking about important things.

 

When you guys are ready to start talking to me instead of talking about me, lmk.

Did you have a bad day, Nyn? ?

 

5 hours ago, Illian Tear said:

Ok, sorry I haven't been posting much, still not used to this, anyway. 

 

I choose you because based on the last 2 games I played with you, this seems similar to those in which you were town.

 

4 hours ago, Illian Tear said:

Clov is town for me.

You seem town.

Tripped seems town.

 

Null everyone else.

These two posts helped me narrow down the main reason I don't feel good about IT: He's playing the way I play as scum. Element one is hiding behind PR speculation. Nearly every post he's made has been related to the deity and/or the passing thereof. Element two is this read list, which looks a lot like "village read people trying hard" (see the Cory quote in my sig). This is where I'm parking my vote for the present. ##Vote Illian Tear

 

14 minutes ago, Clovdyx said:

Only if the inactive is town.  I guarantee AJ isn't actively avoiding the thread because he randed town (finally).  He's completely rand to be anything.

Problem is, in most cases, including this one, the inactive player has exactly (% mafia)/(# of players) chance to be mafia. It's not statistically significant at all. And worse, their death gives us no information. Hence it not being a "real" kill. 

[Ironeyes]

For reference, the IT read list was in response to a Zander post, so that's who "you" refers to

[Ironeyes]

Other people I'd be willing to vote today are BFG, Tripped, and AJ in that order

[Nynaeve]

I had an awful day.

 

I tried to study some but I got harassed on the phone by several family members of an individual that is under my responsibility because the doctor diagnosed her with chest muscle spasms and wouldnt refer her to the E.R. And apparently that's somehow my problem.... all because she didn't want to do her guarding duty.

 

Threatening to make a police report for harassment seemed to do the trick.... for now anyhow.

[Katiora]

2 minutes ago, Nynaeve said:

I had an awful day.

 

I tried to study some but I got harassed on the phone by several family members of an individual that is under my responsibility because the doctor diagnosed her with chest muscle spasms and wouldnt refer her to the E.R. And apparently that's somehow my problem.... all because she didn't want to do her guarding duty.

 

Threatening to make a police report for harassment seemed to do the trick.... for now anyhow.

*hugs Nyn* People are stupid... 

 

 

 

[Katiora]

Ok well... Just so ya'll know. My kids are on spring break this week and I'm off work the next two days so from tomorrow until Monday I will be extremely spotty... I will try to check in occasionally but I make no promises.. Especially Friday because I"m meeting up with my bestie for a Besties Birthday Day. Don't try to lynch me while I'm gone.. that would be extraordinarily mean ? CHRIS

[Clovdyx]

1 hour ago, Ironeyes said:

Echoing this. Dice and I are on the same wavelength today. 

 

Did you have a bad day, Nyn? ?

 

 

These two posts helped me narrow down the main reason I don't feel good about IT: He's playing the way I play as scum. Element one is hiding behind PR speculation. Nearly every post he's made has been related to the deity and/or the passing thereof. Element two is this read list, which looks a lot like "village read people trying hard" (see the Cory quote in my sig). This is where I'm parking my vote for the present. ##Vote Illian Tear

 

Problem is, in most cases, including this one, the inactive player has exactly (% mafia)/(# of players) chance to be mafia. It's not statistically significant at all. And worse, their death gives us no information. Hence it not being a "real" kill. 

 

I don't really agree with the bottom for...well, a lot of reasons, but it's mostly irrelevant.  It's not like day is ever going to end without the slot checking in, so it's a moot point.

 

I like the vote.  I read WiFi's post.  She said nothing stood out to her as scummy... I was thinking more or less nothing stood out to me as town.  More importantly, the entire thing together doesn't feel town.

[Clovdyx]

1 hour ago, Ironeyes said:

Other people I'd be willing to vote today are BFG, Tripped, and AJ in that order

 

1) Why Tripped?  

 

2) Why AJ, if you think it's a zero-information lynch and basically forfeits the opportunity to be productive?  Your last post made it seem like you would be staunchly opposed. 

 

3) Talk to me about the quieter people that HAVE been around?