[Harry Potter week 2018] Mafia game thread

[Ironeyes]

  On 7/31/2018 at 3:46 PM, Zanatron said:

I also hate those people who post in the color that shall not be named or used!!!!!!!!!

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You're so freaking lucky I'm on mobile right now 

[Zander?]

tho i do miss @Wildfire Sedai

 

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I hope she's well....i miss beating my head of the desk to follow her logic!!!!!

 

My goal is still to program her to systematically blow up DM..........but Verb already broke it so........lolololololol

[Zander?]

  On 7/31/2018 at 3:47 PM, Ironeyes said:

You're so freaking lucky I'm on mobile right now 

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DONT YOU DO IT!!!!!!

[Zander?]

@Songstress

 

You around?!?!?!

 

Need to see thoughts and stuffs please!!!!!!!!!!!

[Clovdyx]

  On 7/31/2018 at 1:15 PM, Ironeyes said:

Possible, yeah. 

 

Reads? Not yet. Leans? You and Dice 

 

OK... I read it as you sussing her. Am I just misinterpreting?

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You read me saying absolutely nothing to suggest she's > rand mafia, while saying three times she has good things going for her, as sussing her?

 

What did you interpret as suspicion?

[Clovdyx]

  On 7/31/2018 at 1:52 PM, Verbal32 said:

 

How in this world did you end up with me in your top 3 after my initial posts?  You have no idea what to do?  Who says that?  Keep posting, keep reading people's responses, and keep digging maybe?

 

D1 scum catch?  One can hope.  Added to what I just said, this early D1 from you is super weird from a townie POV.

 

Vote: Clov

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There are eight slots for two scum.  I have reasons to feel good about four people.  That leaves four.

 

I had a bottom four (or three + one, if you want to account for Hallia being slightly above the rest).  

 

But I'm pretty sure you know how a POE works...

[Clovdyx]

  On 7/31/2018 at 3:32 PM, Zanatron said:

 

 

FML

 

I don't know what to make of this Clov/Verb sussing each other?

 

I mean Verb, do you have s solid grasp of the game atp?

 

Who are you top town and scum reads (besides Clov obv) and why?

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I wasn't sus of him until that post where he apparently doesn't understand a really basic concept.  I just saw no reason to feel good about him.  His only content was fos Hallia and townreading me, neither of which felt... anything, the.  He's just there. 

 

I'm really damn good at this game.  I can't read people that aren't posting, especially when my D1 approach is basically "do they believe what they're saying" + meta.

[Katiora]

  On 7/31/2018 at 3:46 PM, Zanatron said:

I also hate those people who post in the color that shall not be named or used!!!!!!!!!

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I don't know what you're talking about.... 

[Clovdyx]

Iron's list looks ~okay to me (I disagree about Verb, but I "get" his thought process about looking past the early contribution), but I really want to see what he was reading as suspicion.  That seems... not right.

 

[Clovdyx]

  On 7/31/2018 at 4:28 PM, Katiora said:

I don't know what you're talking about.... 

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Who you making dead today? =)

[Katiora]

  On 7/31/2018 at 4:29 PM, Clovdyx said:

 

Who you making dead today? =)

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a good question... i don't know.  

 

Zander will want to kill me now lol since I posted the dreaded light salmon hehehe

 

but honestly...  you know how much I hate D1. Verb is pushing you because I don't really understand why?? I guess I just don't see what he sees. I don't see mine and your discussion yesterday as you pushing me?? IDK. Didn't seem like that big of a deal *shrugs* I never really thought you thought I was scum.. Everyone just thinks that I"m defensive about stuff I'm not really defensive about? idk. This happens literally every game now. I don't think that as scum you would even approach me about it. Though idk. I don't know the last time I played with you as scum lol 

 

I really want to think you and Zander are town. I do. I JUST DO. I mean I don't really think it... but i want to. But I tinfoil both of you SOOOOOO bad. 

 

 

Everyone else here. Dice has been kinda quiet and agreeable. I don't know what to think of that. last few games where he's been true town he's been kinda beligerant lol 

 

Everyone else here really hasn't given me enough to think about. Right now I probably don't want to lynch you, zander or verb just because IF you're town you will add a lot. And if you're not you won't get NK'd lol And I'll be more suspicious of you. 

 

 

Hallia is quiet but that's become her new normal the past few games. ehhh IDK. I'd like to see who starts pushing who and for what reasons. I don't love Verb's push on you so far. Your thing with tress was kinda meh.... I didn't have the problems with it everyone else did I think because I actually read your posts up to that point?? lol I mean you literally said " I don't care who gets lynched but I want it to be one of these three" then randomly posted one. I don't think that's inherently scummy on a day as short as this. Something has to get things rolling. *shrugs* 

 

but to answer your question. I don't know. lol I'm hoping I have at least an idea soon. I should probably re-read the thread while it's short. 

[Katiora]

And I feel like I keep forgetting people that are in the game and i'm not... it's just a small game lol really throwing me off 

[Songstress]

  On 7/31/2018 at 3:49 PM, Zanatron said:

@Songstress

 

You around?!?!?!

 

Need to see thoughts and stuffs please!!!!!!!!!!!

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I'm almost caught up ...  Got up and made coffee and started at the beginning of the game rereading and making notes for reference. Just got to this post.

 

I am running super late to work though, so actual thoughts and analysis will have to wait for a bit.  I need to be dressed and at my desk ready to work in less than an hour, and I am still in my pajamas.     Will show my work when I'm done catching up, and mull it over in my head while I'm getting dressed and driving.   Expect something resembling reads and/or thoughts in 2 hours or so once I'm settled in.

[Songstress]

OK.  Caught up and I have 10 minutes to get ready for work. 

 

Summary and no real analysis yet in the notes in spoiler.

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Clov hardclaims town, tries to vote Kat but vote tags are broken, jokes she randed mafia because she called him Chrissypoo in Skype earlier.

Lessa excited to be playing HP mafia again

Dice excited not to be Bellatrix or Draco, does Rock imitation and announces he's finally town in a HP game.  Votes Lessa for being excited.

Clov kind of wants to believe Dice is town, votes Kat

Lessa votes Dice in response, says she loves the Rock impersonation

Clov says hello to Lessa

Dice jokes that Lessa's vote is OMGUS

Hallia calls Clov Chrissypoo and jokes that we should vote him instead of Kat

Clov jokes that Kat and Hallia are obviously scum together

Verb indicates he found a way to fix the vote tags and passed it along to the black hole that all suggestions on how to fix DM go into.  Suggests Clov is scum playing out front, and votes Clov. Asks for clarification on vote format.

Clov suggests that Verb has outed himself as mafia

Kat laughs at Clov suggesting she should be lynched for calling him Chrissypoo

Zander pops in with his over the top SWEET I'M TOWN AGAIN that he does every game regardless of alignment, jokes that Clov's first 3 posts are a villagery progression.  Exclaims that I am playing.

Hallia declares Verbal seems towny to her

Zander says hello to Lessa and asks if they have played together before, suggests lynching Dice while he is sleeping, asks whether Lessa and Dice know one another.  Expresses disappoinment in Verb's lack of being able to magically fix DM.  Asks Hally to clarify why she thinks Verb is seeming towny.

Verb expresses willingness to lynch Dice while he is sleeping.  Zander laughs.

Clov asks Hallia to clarify if she is serious about Verb seeming towny, states he is null on everyone so far, except possible slight town points to Zander.  Also notes that he's fine with lynching Dice while sleeping but points out it is a deadline game.

Zander posts Tom Brady gif in response to Clov having a slight town read on him

Kat expresses frustration over deadline format

Zander also hates deadline games (plus fun typo about breading the rules)

Clov provides recipe for breading and deep frying the rules

Verb expresses light FOS on Hallia, slight town read on Clov - unvotes Clov.  Thanks Sooh for clarifying vote format.

Kat jokes that she is just following directions and votes the mod

Zander posts funny gif about deep frying the rules

Marsh votes Verb because it's been forever since they've played together.  Calls Zander lock town (because Motorhead? *shrug*)

Clov says hi to Marsh and asks if he's town.   Marsh replies "Yup!"

Clov asks me to drop some knowledge on him

Kat pouts that Sooh is not amused that she is being voted, unvotes.

Zander not being pocketed by Marsh, makes a joke about dropping knowledge on Clov, comments on Kat pouting

Kat accuses Zander of having too much energy, says she will "take that as towny"

Verb says hi to Marsh and is feeling old

Zander is the Energizer Bunny, notes his energy level is absolutely null and is sketched out by Kat even suggesting a read on anyone D1

Kat denies that saying Zander's energy was "towny" was intended to be a read, tells him not to read too much into things

Zander appears to be suspicious of Kat's explanation

Clov states he hates Kat's explanation but feels it is null or slightly town for Kat - notes that Zander's self-meta about his energy level is correct, and points out that saying something is "towny" is sort of a read. Unvotes Kat.

Dice sighs at Zander for not knowing Lessa is in the Band, is disappointed in Verb for being willing to join the "lynch Dice while sleeping" club, and notes he expects this from Clov.

Kat vehemently denies giving Zander a town read D1, and expresses her usual inability to read anyone D1.

Clov says he will not get into a pointless argument about the semantics of whether saying something is "towny" is giving a read, very carefully words a request for Kat's reads to make it seem like he's not asking for reads.

Zander assumes Clov didn't like his response to Kat's "towny" statement, not Kat's response to his suspicion, states if people throw out a weak reason for town reading someone he's going to call it out.  Asks whether he can comment on Clov's request for Kat to elaborate on her feelings.

Dice requests Zander not comment on it

Zander posts gif about me calling him serious, jokes that he is incredulous about Verb and Clov wanting to lynch Dice while he is sleeping.

Weird exchange between Zander and Dice about him asking whether he can comment on Clov's request to Kat.  >.>

Clov clarifies @ Zander that his "hate this response" was in regard to Kat's response to him, and reiterates that he thought Zander's postt was reasonable.  Explains that he is trying to see if Kat has thoughts he can evaluate.  States he doesn't care who is lynched right now, Zander and Kat are slight town reads, if he had to pick one person to lynch he would pick Hallia because he is not sure about her Verb read and she has not responded.

Kat says she really wants Clov and Zander to be town but doesn't necessarily think they are.  Asks when day ends so she can put a last minute vote on Dice.

Marsh points out how young he is, denies trying to pocket Zander, and jokes that Dice is scummy because of ending a sentence with a preposition.  Comments on short deadline especially with D1 starting on a weekend, and jokes that leaves less time for Zander to bloat the thread to unreasonable proportions

Kat finds the "Zander bloating the thread" comment hilarious.

Zander agrees with Clov that it is too early to have reads on anyone, wants to see things develop befoore deadline.  Funny gif in response to Marsh's "bloating the thread" comment.  

Punny exchange with Zander and Marsh about his "ending a sentence with a preposition" comment.

Lessa replies to Dice's OMGUS comment by complimenting his Rock impression, says hello to Zander and notes it has been a long time since she played and does not remember playing with anyone in the game.  Feels suspicious of the Clov/Kat interaction and thinks one of them may be scum but she is not sure which.  Unvotes Dice.

Clov replies to Kat's "please be town" with stating that he is, is confused by Lessa's "I thought it was really good" statement.

Dice clarifies that Lessa was talking about his impression of the Rock, and unvotes Lessa

Zander asks Lessa what makes her think the Clov/Kat exchange is town vs mafia and asks her to clarify who is which and why.  Again suggests Marsh is trying to pocket him.  Says he will be going to bed soon.

Dice asks Zander for his thoughts on Clov

Zander wants to see more from me, and wants Hallia to explain her Verb read.  Responds to Dice that Clov has done nothing to ping but has not done anything he couldn't do as mafia, will need a lot more from him to read him, states he would not be likely to lynch him D1.  Also wants Lessa to answer his question.  Likes the fact that Verb FOS'd Hallia for her town lean on him.

Dice is sketched out by Clov's focus on Kat and by the fact that he questions her but indicates he won't lynch her before she answers

Zander asks Dice for reads or leans, tries to clarify what he thought about the Clov/Kat interaction

Clov is meh about Verb calling out Hallia's town lean on him, especially since he had already questioned her, thinks Verb may be mafia trying to appear skeptical.  Disagrees with Dice's interpretation that he won't lynch Kat, states that he would just prefer most of the rest of the game over her right now

Dice agrees with Kat's characterization of her "towny" comment as not being a read, notes you can say someone is acting towny without believing they are town

Clov notes that he has thoughts about Zander's question to Lessa but wants to see where it goes before commenting

Zander wishes he and Clov were masons.  Understands what Clov is saying about Verb's FOS on Hallia, notes it depends on Hallia's alignment in that scenario.  Requests that I lay out my thoughts for him while he's sleeping.

Clov disagrees with Dice about the "towny" vs "town read", but again says arguing about semantics won't help solve the game.

Zander points out it is really sketchy for Kat to make any alignment related comments D1, but notes that he has read her wrong for the last few games so he does not want to jump down her throat right now, will give her more time.  Requests Clov hold off on commenting on his question to Lessa until she answers.  Agrees with Clov about not getting into an argument about semantics.

Lessa responds to Zander's request that she feels Kat is more town than Clov in their exchange whereas Clov is more of a scum lean - notes Kat is responding to the questions being directed at her while Clov "kept going on about" the explanation and making it the center of discussion, understands the deisre not to argue about semantics but in that case feels the argument would have been avoided entirely if it had not been mentioned in the first place.

Clov asks Lessa if she has any other reads

Hallia denies to give Clov any explanation for her town lean on Verb, says she appreciates Dice.  Says it was a "light feeling" she got from seeing his posts, nothing really to add.

Clov asks Hallia whether she still feels Verb is town.  Suggests Marsh/me/Verb and Hallia as his POE.  Says he feels best about Zander due to his effort/energy/trying to solve, thinks his questions to Lessa and his take on Dice seem genuine.  Does not like Kat's approach to the game but does not feel it is scummy.  Considers Dice null, feels his disagreements are a difference in interpretation instead of a deliberate misrep to make him look bad.   Struggles with what to think about Lessa's conclusion wrt him and Kat.  Votes me because random.org told him to.

Dice notes @ Hallia that it is nice to be appreciated but he was referring to Kat's "towny" comment about Zander, not Hallia's about Verb.

Marsh unvotes Verb, states Clov is making him nervous because after all the work he did trying to get people to post content he resorts to random.org voting me instead of voting specifically because I am being too quiet.  Marsh suspicious of both me and Clov. 

Zander asks Lessa to clarify how much mafia experience she has, whether she prefers being town or mafia, and who she has played with before on this roster.  Notes he is interested in seeing more on Hallia's Verb read, felt her response to Clov was a bit defensive - says he has seen her respond this way as both alignments.

Marsh notes he has played with Lessa before but it was not recent.

Zander hopes Clov is town.  Is sketched out by my lack of activity.  Likes Dice telling him to hold off on addressing Clov's question (unless Clov and Dice are scum together).  Wants Lessa to answer his further questions before commenting on her response and Clov's reaction to it.  Asks Clov to clarify why he voted me over Iron, Verb or maybe Hallia.  Notes Clov always makes him nervous.  Thinks Marsh should assume Clov's "random.org" reasoning was probably a joke.  Questions Marsh being suspicous of me and Clov, asks if he thinks we are mafia together.  Asks if Marsh has any town reads.

Clov clarifies random.org was not a joke, he has no preference between me, Marsh and Verb for who to lynch.  Has already given his other reads.  Objects to Marsh's characterization that he "dug at Kat" for four pages when he has already stated it was probably a good sign for her.

Zander notes he thought Clov's vote on me was for pressure.
Clov replies that it can be taken that way but he doesn't consider it "not a real vote"
Zander comments that it's not like it's a train building or a hammer vote so it doesn't bother him much.

Zander notes that he kind of agrees with Clov with regard to Marsh's characterization of the Clov/Kat exchange, but then says that Marsh says things that makes him scratch his head even when he's town.

Marsh clarifies that he does think it's possible that Clov and I are mafia together.  Has no town reads but town leans on Zander and Dice.  Asks whether he's misinterpreting Clov/Kat exchange as him being suspicious of her.

Verb weighs in on the "towny" vs "town" as semantics but whatever.  Thinks at the time Clov asked Kat to provide thoughts on the other players it looks like him stretching to fake effort in hunting, not a good look for Clov.  Questions how Clov ended up with Verbal in his POE, thinks Clov's D1 looks super weird from a townie POV. Votes Clov.  Characterizes Clov's treatment of Kat as hedging his bets.

Lessa responds to Zander's questions that she has played maybe 10 games since around 2013.  Prefers to be town as she tends to overthink when mafia.  Has played with Marsh, Dice, Verb and me before.   Responds to Clov that she is unsure how she feels about Hallia, Kat and me due to lack of content.  Unsure about Dice because he was a really good wolf as she recalls.  Null reads on Marsh and Zander, leans town on Verb.

Marsh suggests I take credit for getting a bite or two out of choosing not to post last night.  Apologizes for making Verb feel older.  Feels good about verbal for not auto town reading Clov just because he pushed past the fluff on D1.

Zander asks Marsh for reasoning for his town leans on Zander and Dice, asks who he is willing to lynch at this point.  Doesn't know what to make of Verb and Clov being suspicious of one another - asks Verb whether he feels he has a solid grasp of the game at this point, asks him for his top town and scum reads other than Clov and why.  Asks me for more content.  Asks Lessa how she feels about Clov, reminds her that she seemed to be suspicous of him earlier.  Gives meta on Hallia, Kat and me - notes Hallia is always a low poster regardless of alignment, whereas I hide from the thread as scum, and Kat will post but is normally confused D1 as town and will manufacture/force reads as scum.  Asks Lessa to clarify why she feels Verb is town.

Marsh indicates his town leans are due to tone so far.  Willing to lynch anyone but Zander, Dice, himself or Verb.

Zander seems slightly irked because Marsh one of "THOSE people"

Marsh feels rushed due to short deadline, states he is going to have to vote based on vague initial impressions.

Zander clarifies "those people" being those who include themselves in their own reads lists - does not understand the point.  Notes he also hates those people who post in LIGHT SALMON (I DO NOT FEAR YOU ZANDER)

Marsh states he likes to be thorough, and notes that he has in fact participated in his own lynch before, including last game when he was town Watcher, so he may include himself in his "willing to lynch" list at times

Zander notes he misses WiFi, including beating his head on the desk to try to understand her logic, jokes about Verb breaking DM.  Again asks me for content.  

Clov expresses incredulity that Marsh misinterpreted his town lean on Kat as being suspicious, and asks him to explain what he interpreted as expressing suspicion.  Explains his POE to Verb.  Notes @ Zander that he wasn't actually suspicious of Verb until Verb's post asking how he got into Clov's bottom 3.   Notes he can't read people who aren't posting, especially since his approach is to analyze whether they appear to believe what they are saying, with added meta.

Kat waves the light salmon flag at the ZanderBull

Clov asks Kat who she is going to vote for today.

Kat doesn't know, reiterates how much she hates D1, does not understand why Verb is pushing Clov.  Notes again that she really wants to think Clov and Zander are both town but she tinfoils hard on them.  Notes Dice has been queit and agreeable, and the last few games when he was town he was belligerent.  Does not have enough on anyone else - does not want to lynch Clov, Zander or Verb because if they are town they will add a lot.  Hallia has been quiet but that is new normal for her.  Wants to se who starts pushing who and for what reasons.  Does not love Verb's push on Clov.  Hopes to have an idea soon.

 

Back in a bit.

[Hallia]

  On 7/31/2018 at 4:46 AM, Clovdyx said:

Of course you're allowed to.  That's why I was asking if it was serious or not... 

 

Are you still there IRT him?

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Yeah, actually - I don't see his response to me as being bad, and the stuff during catch up I see that he isn't just immediately tossing you a town read for your involvement, I like it.

 

  On 7/31/2018 at 5:39 AM, dicetosser1 said:

 

ummm thanks  its nice to be appreciated but i was actually talking about Kat in that post......

 

 

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Well then v.v alas  (i still appreciate you)

 

  On 7/31/2018 at 12:22 PM, Zanatron said:

 

 

Interested in seeing where this goes.

 

I felt Hallia's response was a tad, not sure what the right word is....defensive maybe? Tho I've seen her make these types of response's as both alignment's.

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I can see how it might read as defensive.  I was tired last night, feeling better today.  I'll be here for the next half hour.

 

Town reads mostly lie in Verb, Clov, and Zander.  

 

also @Katiora  it really isn't my new normal, I'm typically low, though I would say on average my posts have gone up from like two years ago?

[Sooh]

Vote count:

 

Clov (1): Verb, 

 

Tress (1): Clov, 

 

Not voting (7): Tress, Zander, Hallia, Kat, Lessa, Dice, Ironeyes, 

 

 

[Hallia]

o.o 3 and a half hours until deadline!? holy

 

@ClovdyxGonna go back through, but can you elaborate on the Tress vote?

[Ironeyes]

  On 7/31/2018 at 4:16 PM, Clovdyx said:

 

You read me saying absolutely nothing to suggest she's > rand mafia, while saying three times she has good things going for her, as sussing her?

 

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We're off the record for a few minutes, so I'll go back and read it again. I may have just done a stupid since I had woken up like 10 minutes prior 

[Hallia]

Adding Dice to town reads, he seems genuinely happy and engaged

[Katiora]

  On 7/31/2018 at 5:09 PM, Sooh said:

Vote count:

 

Clov (1): Verb, 

 

Tress (1): Clov, 

 

Not voting (7): Tress, Zander, Hallia, Kat, Lessa, Dice, Ironeyes, 

 

 

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SAVAGE LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

[Hallia]

@Songstress - I like your catch up and breakdown of what's gone on in thread; got some reads from all that?

[Ironeyes]

  On 7/30/2018 at 8:58 PM, Clovdyx said:

 

 

 

I absolutely hate this response/explanation, but I feel it's null-slightly town for Kat?  The bold is more or less spot on, and saying something is townie is sort of a read...

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I think this is what threw me. I only read the first couple words and formed a conclusion automatically 

[Sooh]

A 24h extension is possible if the majority of players want it. If you do wish to extend D1, PM me. 

 

DO NOT post in the thread. 

 

PM me!

 

Got it?

 

Let's see how many people can read a whole post before reacting.

[Songstress]

  On 7/31/2018 at 5:27 PM, Hallia said:

@Songstress - I like your catch up and breakdown of what's gone on in thread; got some reads from all that?

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Working on it.  I have a couple of thoughts I'm not quite ready to act on yet, until I see a few responses from others.

 

You're here and interacting, which is good.

 

@Verbal32 - Looking for more from you aside from your sus of Clov. You FOS'd Hallia earlier, what are your thoughts now? If Clov were not a big flashing "DON'T TRUST ME" neon sign, who would you find most suspicious?

[Songstress]

I have a lot to get done today as it's the last day of the month, will see how much I can get away with pushing until after DL if it doesn't get extended.

 

Aside from that,  what I didn't copy/paste from my notepad doc was the player list where I noted every time a question popped into my head about potential teammates.  Everyone had at least one name that occurred to me as a possible, which kinda means I have taken a giant step backward in being able to soulread any of you.

 

More individual thoughts after i make a couple of phone calls.  Light, I despise working in a call center.