Ye Gods it was an awful game anyway. Guaranteed a room full of crying children, and there would always be that one kid that wouldn't let go of the parcel no matter what. Party games are just torture, lol.

Dude, stop with this "distancing" obsession lmao. Now I'm not claiming to be an expert, but trying to tell the wolves from their interactions seems like an inefficient way to go about it. How their actions dovetail, or complement each other seems a better way. But here is a suggestion for Peace's barely a slip. He cannot call it a slip as it obviously wasn't. It was a factual statement. But he wants to sus me in a way that there is no smoke without fire, he can come back and reference this without actually contradicting himself. Not as a single piece of evidence but in a parallel argument where all the little pieces of evidence add up to something.

Touch the thing already, lol.

My "slip" that Dice caught is complete BS. It is a statement of fact that Darthe's wolf reads on N0 were me and Berf. Anyone falling for that simply cannot read and I am not happy at all that is pushing it all. Darthe's "I haven't read the thread but I'm voting Heavy just like I fingered him from one post" seems equally paper thin, and I think it is scandalous that this "case" is getting traction. Cannot deny that the nonsense Turin posted also has me in a really bad mood. Really nice to see that not a single person is pointing out the weakness of the case against me, at least Ithi apparently can read me. I could move my vote back to Teph but I really hoped he would have added some content. It seems a bit wrong to target someone with so few posts, no matter how wolfy they are. Turin/Dice/Berf/Peace seem actively wolfy, and looking forward to the pearls of wisdom Darthe is about to drop on us. Dice could just be fixated on his amazing slip finding capabilities, but not happy with the timing of three paper thin cases suddenly being thrown at me that are unanswerable as they rely on things that did not actually happen. Which doesn't seem to be much of a problem to anyone else.

Yeah, I'm a little hazy on some of those heroic saving the villagers and wounded scout moments. Maybe I wasn't present in the thread at those points 🤷‍♀️ Shall we go for the Ashen Spire fire moment? I like the villagers bit but as I don't remember it maybe we should not risk it. Maybe Skynet is just trying to trick us into claiming stuff we didnt' do, lol

Wow, very good, Ithi 🙂 impressive

Sweet jeebus. I quotes where I said I was pretty sure I hadn't said it without referencing how I was burnt by it last game. I didn't say I never said it, I never defended SD by saying he was TWTBAW. Again, like in Dice's case, the words are literally there, quoted for your convenience. You aren't making any sense.

Because it was obvious I didn't. Because I did not do it, which you could see by reading what I wrote. And you expect me to defend myself against that? Anyone can read it themselves, they don't need me holding their hand.

It is only fair. No one else could have self-coronered, lol. Welcome back, Darthe.

Ok I'll bite. For what?

So are you misrepping me on purpose?

Fwiw, I think it most likely Darthe died as he was a good player and town. Like Hamilton except he was a wolf, lol. Anything else, as in gets him off someone's case or lays a false trail was completely an extra advantage. But it seems weird to totally discount it, yet propose an even more complicated theory in it's place. It is an undeniable possibility that Darthe's reads influenced the NK one way or another.

So this is where I say it could well be NAI, it could be TWTBAW, but I was wrong about that last game so I'm not saying it. And your notes say I'm defending him for being TWTBAW. Right. Have to point out I'm disagreeing with your paraphrasing.

@Ithillian Turambar Emphasis mine.

Not really. Possible buddying. Saying SD is TWTBAW even though I'm pretty sure I haven't said that without also mentioning mainly how I was burnt with that the game before. I sussed some people. A lot of the mentions in your notes are NAI. Like I comment that Ithi is being aggressive, why is that in your comments so you can mention that I appear in them so often? Obviously I'm biased when it comes your read on me, but all your notes seem cherry picked to back up a different idea of what is going on in the thread. Normally I can follow your arguments pretty well but so far this doesn't feel like real reads to me at all.

I'm not sure I think if anything for any of the others though, lol.

1. Water: we saved Kevin, we purified the Earth Elemental. We did other things setting things free but the bold Kerin was the first I think and easiest to remember and describe.

Your mafia read is that I didn't immediately jump into list reads based on people's first posts? Ok. Well it is difficult to be upset with people sussing you when they have such a strong case, lol.

Bah, just to clarify, the "too narrow a thought process" was a quite from Berf about why Darthe couldn't have been killed simply because he was on the right track in some way. Whereas it totally makes sense they killed him to implicate SD who cleverly got out of it by defending Ithi who was trying to eliminate him (which as in this scenario is the wolf plan, that would make Ithi rather sus) is a much better thought process to apply. Sketches me out a bit. Not sure how I glossed over this the first time, I think I was just ignoring the lengthy explanations about a far-fetched conspiracy theory. But the details are a little unsettling, especially with the "yeah it is a gut read" agreement at the end.

UNVOTE VOTE BERF

I accept this. I am playing vibes mafia and my words are often wordy. I am available for clarifications. Apologies This feels like a back down. Surely there shouldnt be a confusion where you have a gut read and where you think an argument is defense by proxy? Also Berf's quote where he says Sinister makes a case for Darthe was killed to trap him seems a huge stretch. Yes Sinister thinking that Darthe not mentioning him was world-rockingly important seems odd. But to add in Darthe was killed to implicate Sinister and then Sinister argues Ithi is town because that would clear him from this villainous plan... what? But the wolves killing Darthe because his wolf reads (me and Berf) were correct is too narrow a thought process. I'm not sure that we have to be so dismissive of cause and effect being related in ways that make sense. I think until Shad brought it up I had glossed over all the waffle about defense by proxy as just one these things you cannot quite articulate but looking back it seems really incoherent, with this back pedalling to "yeah it is just a gut read" feels really false. Still don't like how unnatural Teph is feeling, but maybe more time will help resolve his alignment one way or the other.

Not sure I understand the offering bit. Some extra info could be handy, though thinking about it, maybe not entirely necessary in a game of multiple choice, but still.

I did, thanks for bringing it up again.

I was working on the assumption that it was based on what Shad said it was based on, but thanks for the idea 👍

OK, gotcha. Not you, then. So glad we cleared this up 👍