Cool, just making sure. Though of course, they could also say they cannot read her but are going with the flow. That would be novel, huh? Probably unlikely though. *side-eyes Shad* But thanks for clarifying, appreciated.

Almost certainly neither do I, that doesn't mean I'm taking anyone else's word for it. To be clear your position is you cannot read Ithi but you are going with the flow rather than leaving her on null?

Yes, but as I am not the boss of you and I cannot order you to produce a read list every 4 hours, you are not the boss of me and tell me I cannot find your activity suspicious. This isn't a criticism of you or your playstyle, but you could have randed wolf. It isn't just about you solving, but about giving town info to base their reads on, and respond, and that allows people to read the responses, and respond, and so on. This is the only way Town can get info. I cannot get a feel of you if you are hiding in the corner. That sounded worse than I intended. So all I am saying is I hope you share your thoughts more, be they uncertainties, be they null, be they negative. Let us see those cogs ticking. Or, er, turning. Whatever cogs do. And I'll still love you even if you are a wolf and stab me in the back, lol 😘

I was agreeing with you regarding Sinister now bringing up the possibility that you were distancing from Peace. We could all be distancing from everyone, it doesn't help solve the game in any way.

Gud, how many times must I tell you, it is not the size that counts! It is what you do with it. And that is what is suspicious about your slanking. You are here, you are not constantly catching up, you're present, reading, reacting, yet to all intents and purposes, absent. You aren't giving your thoughts. You answer questions in the narrowest possible sense. You defend other people without arguing they are town. Now I get you can totally be disoriented by this set up. I get you could be feeling nothing on the Ithi/Sinister argument. But you got to have thoughts. You got to have reads. Not everything can be noncommital. Does Ithi/Sinister feel natural, or T/T, or like a wolf is involved? What Peace? What about the low post count players? What about me? Plus, mine is bigger than yours and Ithi's is the biggest so just no point going there.

I've never heard it but one would assume it is the same as Gee whizz, struth, and crivens. Sort of. As in it is Jesus Christ without taking the wee man's name in vain (the other examples being God's truth, and Christ fend us, here). I was just agreeing with Gud's exclamation.

Reads don't consist of saying, well this person said this so that could mean they are a wolf or it could mean they are town, ad infinitum. What is your read on Peace is not the same as what is the technical possibilities of his alignment. Talking at great length about "maybe/maybe not" does not seem to be helpful except in derailing the thread and muddying any real reads. What are your reads on those people you asked me and Ithi?

Have to say I am starting to get a little tired of this accusation too, lol. I don't know if labelling every single negative interaction between two players as distancing really helps until it is part of a bigger case or pattern.

Maybe not use the word newbie next time, though in all honesty until Ithi said it this was the context I was thinking you were meaning -must have originally missed the newbie word, lol.

Leelou feels town doing townie things. Berf sounds like he is having a bit of culture shock but is down with casual nudity. Gud is slanking in a very suspicious manner I hope she pulls out of. Teph is really sounding very awkward and shooting off one-liner suspicions and reactive posts instead of hunting or discussing. Hopefully he to will warm up before EoD. Peace appears to on a different planet from me. Not sure how to read him. Is he being rather clumsily a wolf or is this like his "I'll get people more active" plan last game that just didn't go to plan? For a vibes-based game, top two are positive vibes for me, if rather weak for Berf and negative for the other three with Teph at this point rocking the ping-o-meter rather hard. Would prefer to be more certain, but that is what I have got.

So you mean it is completely NAI as it could mean anything? This whole thing seems like a huge distraction as it is not based on anything and is just muddying the waters. Something is suspicious but we don't know who is being suspicious, why, or who else is involved. Sounds like we could easily drop it.

So someone saying they read me as Town pings you. heartbroken.gif Did Sinister's ping you or was it the wording of Leelou's post rather than the content?

Were you meaning this, Sinister? If this was a slip, the wolves are brighter than I am, lol.

As far as I know this is the only "set-up" that Leelou said regarding me. Can @peacesells, @Gudrean or @SinisterDeath explain how there was any kind of set up when I was talking about a discussion largely between Ithi and Sinister that other players have commented on? Sinister even said the same thing, and yet this is a set up between me and Leelou? Can you provide any reasoning behind this? Any quote I missed? *insert joke about I'm sure it sounded better in the wolf chat here*

That said, I believe Darthe claimed there was a Wolf between you, Leelou and who else? Teph? Now say Darthe was correct about Heavy. This could be a Wolf!Peace employing text book Distancing between Leelou, and Heavy? Right? Or this could be Town!Peace. I equally found it strange that Leelou posted this. Which is what you referenced without quoting. But I'm sure you'll bring up this, which I posted about 3 minutes after Leelou. So, I'm sure Town!Peace or Wolf!Peace will surely latch onto that as proof I must be a wolf because surely I must be a wolf, and those two must be wolves with me, because that interaction was weird. Meanwhile, you get to skate away free and clear with your text book distancing from Leelou and Heavy. Not sure I am understanding this. Are you saying you found Leelou saying what you said three minutes later weird? Why did you say it then? Highlighting in red my addition. I really don't understand. Going for a walk, see you guys later. Maybe things will make more sense later. PS I do agree on the gifs, lol, but as it actually NAI let's drop it, but by Thor's Sweaty Jockstrap....

Did not happen, I was talking about the then ongoing discussion about gifs/memes being spam or not in the context of Ithi/Sinister on which I was pontificating my opinion (Shad I believe had also commented on this in his reads). I cannot "read" gifs, and in my opinion, they don't constitute real gameplay, though they are entertaining and certainly don't mean they shouldn't be used, just that they are no substitute for words in way, shape or form. Apparently opinions vary.

That is like saying a mask with a big smile on it conveys happiness better than someone smiling. How can you see if it is a fake smile? Can you see the sadness around the mouth, the pain in the eyes? No, on the mask the smile is bigger so it conveys the emotion better /s This is crazy dude. I literally cannot believe you are serious about this.

Because I am encouraging people to play? Instead of raging at them to vote? Don't get this at all and I don't think it is a good look. Throwing sus about for the sake of it doesn't help anyone. Not on Town anyway.

Not even close to being correct. Gifs show what the poster wants to, or tries to, show, not the tone of their language and their subconscious cues. Gifs do not have subtext. Gifs do not have personality. Better than the written word? My flabber is well and truly ghasted. They are literally communication by cookie cutter. Man, I am so annoyed right now, lol. Gifs? FLUFFING GIFS ARE BETTER THAN WORDS?!?! At communicating emotion? Ah, I need to go lie down in a dark room for a bit, lmfao. I've never complained about DPR's play before? You must have missed that game then? I mean, we are all entitled to our opinions, but dude, seriously? I need to go read my favourite book, the Wheel of GIFS by Robert Fluffface to calm down.

I'm 100% sure it is. But that doesn't answer what you are prioritizing spending time on. You are giving off very sus vibes. If you are town, it would be great when you have a moment if you could work on that.

I'm just encouraging you to share your thoughts. It is not just about letting us see your thought process but about adding to the material that everyone can build on. Plus it makes any inconsistencies more readily apparent. Like, you know, someone saying they aren't sharing their thoughts and saying they are. Just as a wild example 😛

Bah, *my instincts* I meant to say. Honestly if I could use someone else's I would.

Wait, what? You're sheeping other people so that clears Ithi? I don't follow this argument at all. I think it has been established that a good player - and Ithi in particular - can hoodwink the majority of the game. Giving her a free pass as she has convinced other people seems incredibly trusting. Now to be clear, I'm leaning town on Ithi but this seems spectacularly lazy and bad reasoning not to suspect someone. Maybe that is just me *shrugs* never claimed to be any good at this but instincts are all I have to go on. *adds Ithi and Shad back to the keep at arm's length list"

If you have scum leans, why are voting for a policy instead? Why are you not discussing your reads? Why are you not justifying your vote? Why are you instead of any of these things trying to score points against Ithi about who has the worst case, especially when you say you have a scum lean on who she is voting for? The only reasons you have given for your suspicions that I can see is activity, though you also have other reads according to you that you haven't shared. How is your play helping town aside from pointing out inactivity is bad? You may well be struggling for time, but what is your justification for what you are spending your time on?