Multiball Mafia - GAME OVER - TOWN WINS

[Andrej]

"If you like to gamble, I tell you I'm your man,

You win some, lose some, it's all the same to me,

The pleasure is to play, makes no difference what you say,

I don't share your greed, the only card I need is

The Ace Of Spades ..."

 

GG.

[Luthine]

Ooooh, 3 deaths?! AJ, you scum, I believed in you! *shakes fist* Well played, well played.

 

So that means 1 kill for each Mafia team (I'd assumed they'd take turns!) and a vigilante kill?

 

I'm heading to bed rn but there will be some interesting ISO to make...

[dicetosser1]

dammit.

 

well at least i wasnt totally suxed in by AJ.

 

 

Lenlo  can I actually trust you this game?

 

 

who do you think should be todays lynch?

[Lenlo]

  On 6/20/2016 at 9:37 PM, dicetosser1 said:

dammit.

 

well at least i wasnt totally suxed in by AJ.

 

 

Lenlo  can I actually trust you this game?

 

 

who do you think should be todays lynch?

Was there a game you couldnt trust me in?

 

Imo... Kat or Luth/Wifi.

 

I say /, because I could do either of them. One kinda resolves the other to some extent. Id lynch Wifi over Luth at this point though.

[dicetosser1]

i think luth may be town

 

my preference is either kat or wildfire   

 

 

i havent forgotten lily but i want to see something from her

[Lenlo]

  On 6/20/2016 at 9:46 PM, dicetosser1 said:

i think luth may be town

 

my preference is either kat or wildfire   

 

 

i havent forgotten lily but i want to see something from her

Cool, we agree then.

[dicetosser1]

do you have some time today len? cause im at work and id really like someone to go thru nyn zanders and especially AJs read. 

[Lenlo]

  On 6/20/2016 at 9:50 PM, dicetosser1 said:

do you have some time today len? cause im at work and id really like someone to go thru nyn zanders and especially AJs read. 

Eeeeh. I will later/tomorrow morning. Tonight I have a Burning Wheel game with some friends.

[dicetosser1]

i will try to look during the day but it depends on work

[Lenlo]

  On 6/20/2016 at 9:53 PM, dicetosser1 said:

i will try to look during the day but it depends on work

Ill do some stuff until the game.

[Lenlo]

 

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  On 6/16/2016 at 4:24 PM, Andrej said:

 

 

  On 6/16/2016 at 4:50 PM, Andrej said:

 

 

  On 6/16/2016 at 4:30 PM, Katiora said:

  On 6/16/2016 at 4:24 PM, Andrej said:

Been a LOOOOOOOOONNNNNGGGGG time since I saw that....

Feels good, don't it?

Hi Nyn

I'm glad I checked DM today, didn't realize the game was gonna start so soon. I'll be around more tomorrow and through the weekend. Not much to say atm.

 

 

  On 6/16/2016 at 4:50 PM, Andrej said:

Hi to everyone old and new.

It's been a little while

 

  On 6/16/2016 at 6:59 PM, Andrej said:

Zander I think we can be friends this round

 

  On 6/16/2016 at 7:00 PM, Andrej said:

 

  On 6/16/2016 at 5:02 PM, Katiora said:

*shakes her cane at Andrej* Did you just call me old!!!

I'll teach you, you whippersnapper!

I prefer grasshopper

 

 

 

  On 6/16/2016 at 7:04 PM, Andrej said:

We're friends too, Nyn.

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with bennies

 

 

 

  On 6/16/2016 at 7:14 PM, Andrej said:

 

  On 6/16/2016 at 7:07 PM, Nynaeve said:

Foreshadowing?

 

 

 

  On 6/16/2016 at 8:02 PM, Andrej said:

 

  On 6/16/2016 at 7:16 PM, Nynaeve said:

Of?

My demise?

 

 

 

  On 6/16/2016 at 8:06 PM, Andrej said:

 

  On 6/16/2016 at 7:18 PM, Zander said:

If youre Town this shouldnt be a problem brother!!!!

<3 <3 <3

  On 6/16/2016 at 7:24 PM, Talmanes said:

I feel like I can't ever vote for AJ after that GIF lmao

Working as intended then.

 

 

 

  On 6/16/2016 at 8:07 PM, Andrej said:

 

  On 6/16/2016 at 7:36 PM, Hallia said:

DON'T YOU IGNORE ME AJ

HI

Back to work now

 

 

 

First 10 posts of AJ's, nothing really relevant. Mostly jokes or interactions with no dead people.

[Lenlo]

 

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  On 6/16/2016 at 9:32 PM, Andrej said:

 

  On 6/16/2016 at 8:12 PM, Hallia said:

Aj being sketchy with me. I AM SUSPECT.

You just missed me.

 

 

  On 6/16/2016 at 9:34 PM, Andrej said:

 

  On 6/16/2016 at 9:08 PM, Nynaeve said:

I know I'm not the most tolerant person when it comes to noobs... don't laugh! :P.... but when someone mentors up, I expect them to talk it through with'em cause that's kind of the entire point. Instead you've got Wildfire just walking around aimlessly and asking stuff. Which if it was pointed questions like what an expression means, I'd be fine with, but asking what she should be doing is..... eh. It's possible Laine just hasn't been around, and that's fine. But I would have liked to hear it from the horse's mouth.

What's your reason?

What's that have to do with Kat answering?

 

 

 

  On 6/16/2016 at 9:50 PM, Andrej said:

 

  On 6/16/2016 at 9:37 PM, Nynaeve said:

 

  On 6/16/2016 at 9:34 PM, Andrej said:

What's that have to do with Kat answering?

Absolutely nothing. It's just why I was asking Wildflower about her mentor in the first place..

Right, which is why I asked. You said it sketched you out because she answered for Wifi but in that post you're only talking about Wifi.

*shrug*

 

 

 

  On 6/16/2016 at 9:51 PM, Andrej said:

Tossing of Salads.

 

 

  On 6/16/2016 at 9:55 PM, Andrej said:

 

  On 6/16/2016 at 9:52 PM, dicetosser1 said:

throws salad at AJ


how are ya bro? hows the job?

Better have croutons!

I'm good, getting back into the groove. The job is busy but fun at the same time. I'm happy to be back to my grease monkey ways

How've you been??

 

 

 

  On 6/16/2016 at 10:01 PM, Andrej said:

I was asking for the correlation because I didn't find them related and the way you said it made it come across that way. I wasn't sure why.

If you were making two separate observations, cool. Keep pointing stuff out - I won't stop you. I may bother you occasionally for explanations though

 

 

  On 6/16/2016 at 10:03 PM, Andrej said:

 

  On 6/16/2016 at 10:01 PM, Nynaeve said:

 

  On 6/16/2016 at 9:59 PM, Zander said:

Nyn what do you feel about AJ;s take on this?

I feel that it's dumb

Well that's mean.

 

 

 

  On 6/16/2016 at 10:14 PM, Andrej said:

 

  On 6/16/2016 at 10:03 PM, Nynaeve said:

How is it not correlated? There's the reason WHY I asked the question and then not liking someone else answering the very same question.

Because it's not? At least I don't think so. The actions are independent - you just corrected me that you were making separate observations.

But go back and look at the sequence again and I think you'll see why I asked originally.

You mentioned Kat first, Zander agreed, then you talk about wifi before asking Zander his reason on Kat. I asked because I wanted clarification as to what Wifi had to do with Kat answering.

 

 

 

  On 6/16/2016 at 10:23 PM, Andrej said:

I don't but that's okay, like I said look at the sequence again and you'll see. Though I do like getting to bump heads with you early like this, I think that's probably a good sign.

I still disagree on the correlation point, but w/e.

 

 

  On 6/16/2016 at 10:24 PM, Andrej said:

That was to Nyn, obv. Too slow with my phone posts, I guess.

 

 

Next 10 posts. More interactions with no dead people.

[Katiora]

Well... That sucks. Two games in a row Zander is town and get killed D1. *face desk* 

 

 

Ok... I need to know, what is up with everyone sussing me this game? I have hardly had any time on here to post when we actually had stuff going on but I"m at the top of the list for trying to help a newbie? I do not get it still. I mean... If that's the only thing that ya'll can find ya'll are looking WAY too hard to find a reason to lynch me. 

 

So far I think Lily is still suspicious. Been reading back over some of Zander's ISO and he was sussing her and Luthine for a while but I'm still trying to go over it and I'm out of time at work. Honestly the only person he had sure cleared was Nyn..... 

 

Honestly i'm not sure what to think of Lenlo. I think part of me just wants him to be scum cause he keeps accusing me and apparently can't understand the premise that some people can be nice in mafia and not look for fights which makes it hard for town to win.... not naming any games like the one we just finished together where he argued with a town for the majority of the game and made himself look bad... 

[dicetosser1]

  On 6/18/2016 at 3:32 PM, Wildfire Sedai said:

 

  On 6/18/2016 at 3:18 AM, Wildfire Sedai said:

1. Sooh-not enough info

2. Nini-not enough info

3. Dice-leaning midling towards scum. Mainly cause the vibes I got from others.

4. AJ-leaning very heavy towards scum. Trying to make friends early in the game and becoming buddies with the "resident townie."

5. Talmanes-not enough info

6. Luthine-not enough info

7. Lily-scum. Sorry, but I agree about the backtracking.

8. Wiffy (mentored by Laine)

9. Nyn-town. We didn't get along. However, this is just a game. In the end Nyn stuck to what she believed in, and would not back down.

10. Hally- scum. I believe that she put dice [and maybe zander]in with the townie .

11. Kat-town for now, could change.

12. Zander-right on the razors edge.

1. Sooh-not enough info

2. Nini-not enough info

3. Dice-leaning midling towards scum. Mainly cause the vibes I got from others. Mainly his picking Zander out as town so early.

4. AJ Trying to make friends early in the game and becoming buddies with the "resident townie."switching to mostly townie. He explained his posts and has been very forthcoming so far.

5. Talmanes-not enough info

6. Luthine-not enough info

7. Lily-scum. Sorry, but I agree about the backtracking. I think I am going to stick to my gut here.

8. Wiffy (mentored by Laine)

9. Nyn-town. We didn't get along. However, this is just a game. In the end Nyn stuck to what she believed in, and would not back down. keeping this same for now

10. Hally- scum. I believe that she put dice [and maybe zander]in with the townie .I can't get over her quick core townie post. And she seems a little bit edgy.

11. Kat-town for now, could change. keeping an open mind here. I basically used my feelings when I dubbed her "town for now." However, that could CHANGE

12. Zander-right on the razors edge. Scum: mainly cause many people: dice and hallia being at the top of the list, called him out as town, in the beginning of D1 very fast. townie: cause later on in D1 people have come forward to say that he is townie with evidence. Also he is "resident townie"

 

 

This should answer all questions that were asked.

 

 

 

This post bothers me. She leans HEAVILY scum on AJ but she never voted him idt. THEN she does a complete 360 to mostly townie because he explained??

 

i accidentally deleted the bit where she says heavy scum the second time

[Lenlo]

  On 6/17/2016 at 2:11 AM, Andrej said:

I accounted for the multi ball setup. Hence saying they would be killing each other

 

6 scum would make up 50% of the roster, which pretty much puts town out of it potentially by D2, so I don't think that's likely. 4 would make most sense statistically, though maybe 5 could work. (Jungle Republic is 7/3/2 but only one team can NK).

 

We'll see - I only brought it up so its on everyone's mind. Having multiple wagons each phase should help a lot in the long run to differentiate between scum teams.

Aj seems to be feeling things out here. Like hes trying to see who has tmi, who the other wolves are.

 

 

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  On 6/17/2016 at 2:37 AM, Andrej said:

@Mod - what is the lynching mechanic for this game?

 

 

  On 6/17/2016 at 2:38 AM, Andrej said:

Phone fails.

 

 

  On 6/17/2016 at 7:16 AM, Andrej said:

Finally home from class but I'm showering and going to sleep since I've got work in the AM.

 

Thus far I have a few I feel okay about. Most people haven't posted much so I'll hold off until things pick up a bit.

 

Goodnight

 

 

  On 6/17/2016 at 7:16 AM, Andrej said:

Also, thanks for clarifying Eldrick.

 

 

  On 6/17/2016 at 1:45 PM, Andrej said:

I'm more a mini skirt guy anyway.

 

 

Jokes, talks with dead people

 

  On 6/17/2016 at 4:30 PM, Andrej said:

 

  On 6/17/2016 at 12:50 PM, Zander said:

 

  On 6/17/2016 at 7:16 AM, Andrej said:

Finally home from class but I'm showering and going to sleep since I've got work in the AM.

 

Thus far I have a few I feel okay about. Most people haven't posted much so I'll hold off until things pick up a bit.

 

Goodnight

Who are these people and why AJ?

Going off the cuff from yesterday I had you, Nyn and Dice as early town leans. You for stirring the pot early and asking pointed questions versus questioning just to look busy. Nyn for asserting herself early and giving unsolicited observations. Dice for his immediate directness on entry.

 

Talmanes also but that's more gut from his tone by itself. I don't really agree with his stance on Dice but I'd prefer to let them hash it out first so I can get a better perspective.

 

I'm still having to skim a lot while I'm at work so these are just general impressions. As of yesterday I noted Hallia was around but not really doing anything that stood out to me as towny yet. The Kat/Lily/Hallia interaction didn't serve much purpose imo. Don't really have an opinion on Kat or Lily yet except that Kat seems to be pandering a lot and Lily said some stuff.

 

From today I think Luthine looks alright and explained herself well. Taking into consideration she's using generic tells I'm okay with the vote on Nyn and her responses afterwards. Not sure what to think about Hallia's vote yet.

 

I'd like to see more from Tina (who is Nini now?) to get a better read. I noted yesterday that she commented a few times early but not much since (probably time zones). The vote on Hallia is kind of naked by itself. I'd like to see her interact more.

 

His Talmanes read could be anything. Could be keeping a teammate in the middle of his POE, could be putting a null on an inactive towny. Not sure.

Saying he wants more from Nini, interested to see how he follows up to this. Also comments on Luth but that seems to be a generic think tank response.

 

 

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  On 6/17/2016 at 4:39 PM, Andrej said:

Also I'd be okay with the DL staying as is. I'll be more available over the weekend and would like an opportunity to read the thread more thoroughly.

 

But if not, I'll just suck it up.

 

 

  On 6/17/2016 at 4:44 PM, Andrej said:

 

  On 6/17/2016 at 4:42 PM, Eldrick4221 said:

 

  On 6/17/2016 at 4:39 PM, Andrej said:

Also I'd be okay with the DL staying as is. I'll be more available over the weekend and would like an opportunity to read the thread more thoroughly.

 

But if not, I'll just suck it up.

Then it will. I was only gonna change it if everyone was ok with it.

It's cool, I don't want to hold the game up if everyone else agrees to shorten it. Thanks for the consideration though.

 

 

 

  On 6/17/2016 at 4:48 PM, Andrej said:

 

  On 6/17/2016 at 4:37 PM, Zander said:

@ AJ

 

Some solid points in your response post to me. Especially irt Nyn.

 

Also if youre Scum, and Im not saying i think you are my reads are still prolly good.

 

lololololololol

lol part of the reason I like multi ball games is because scum have to hunt scum too.

 

But, I'm town and if my reads are good then I think we could wrap this up pretty quickly if we can get the scum to kill each other.

 

I'm gonna try to narrow it down to a pool of suspects to vote from since the odds should be pretty good - but that'll come later after I can read more.

 

Until then try not to flood the thread too much, buddy

 

 

 

More pointless stuff.

[dicetosser1]

  On 6/20/2016 at 4:43 AM, Andrej said:

 

  On 6/20/2016 at 12:26 AM, Lenlo said:

Zander, stop. GL Town, as a post, means nothing. Ive screwed with people with that line plenty of times. It means nothing alignment wise.

 

 

  On 6/20/2016 at 12:23 AM, Andrej said:

Lily is definitely suspect.

 

Kat and Wifi are still suspects as well, along with Lenlo and Talmanes.

 

I agree mostly. Id go Kat >= Lily >> Wifi atm.

 

The hammer was bad, She said she was waiting for Hallia to finish an ISO but then voted without any new posts from Hallia?

 

I'm thinking Kat is a good direction to go in. I'm starting to think you could be right about what you said earlier irt Wifi being guilty by association through Kat.

 

Talmanes needs to get the heat turned up on as well.

 

 

Red I note that he only has wildfire guilty by association with Kat. Always pushing kat first.

[LilyElizabeth]

  On 6/20/2016 at 8:11 PM, Talmanes said:

Haven't heard back from Eldrick yet on being replaced so I'm going to put some thoughts out there.

 

I'm really not liking the Hally lynch timeline. It didn't seem like there was a whole lot of case on her and it got built up pretty quickly even though there was a lot of time left.

 

When did Mafia games start getting so personal? The argument between Zander and AJ is making them both look scummy to me because I've not seen either get like that before and it feels almost staged to me. I disagree with both sides of the argument to an extent but I think both took it to an extreme. Not everyone is going to automatically hop off a train because of a quick 'I'm Town' but I also disagree won the sentiment of 'IDK if you're Town I want to lynch you anyway.'

 

AJ looks especially bad in the exchange to me (despite Hally's post admittedly sounding very OMGUS to me as well) because he posts something saying he feels bad voting for her but then goes on a rant about how she needed to be lynched Town or not.

 

I'm also not liking the quick hammer by Lily. Despite suspicions there was a lot of conversation going and people doing research and at least 24 hours left. Seemed to quite possibly be scum trying to make sure no one left and get a quick hammer. I feel like Lily is too experienced to do that but yet there it is.

 

I'll post more later if I can, my break is over now.

 

It wasn't quick. I stated my intention to vote her, waited for her to finish the ISO she apparently was finished with, and came back a while later and hammered. Look at the time difference between my posts, and you'll see it wasn't quick at all. 

[dicetosser1]

Right now im thinking Wildfire is on AJs team and kat is not.

[Lenlo]

  On 6/20/2016 at 10:02 PM, Katiora said:

Well... That sucks. Two games in a row Zander is town and get killed D1. *face desk* 

 

 

Ok... I need to know, what is up with everyone sussing me this game? I have hardly had any time on here to post when we actually had stuff going on but I"m at the top of the list for trying to help a newbie? I do not get it still. I mean... If that's the only thing that ya'll can find ya'll are looking WAY too hard to find a reason to lynch me. 

 

So far I think Lily is still suspicious. Been reading back over some of Zander's ISO and he was sussing her and Luthine for a while but I'm still trying to go over it and I'm out of time at work. Honestly the only person he had sure cleared was Nyn..... 

 

Honestly i'm not sure what to think of Lenlo. I think part of me just wants him to be scum cause he keeps accusing me and apparently can't understand the premise that some people can be nice in mafia and not look for fights which makes it hard for town to win.... not naming any games like the one we just finished together where he argued with a town for the majority of the game and made himself look bad... 

Im sorry, I cant what? Ive been rather pleasant this game, and when not aggravated by Sili was quite calm and affable last game. Are you saying I cant be nice while accusing you of being a wolf?

 

And I didnt argue with town last game. I argued with Sili. A single individual. And as it turns out, we were both wrong. So how bout you cool it there?

[Lenlo]

  On 6/20/2016 at 10:07 PM, dicetosser1 said:

 

  On 6/20/2016 at 4:43 AM, Andrej said:

 

  On 6/20/2016 at 12:26 AM, Lenlo said:

Zander, stop. GL Town, as a post, means nothing. Ive screwed with people with that line plenty of times. It means nothing alignment wise.

 

 

  On 6/20/2016 at 12:23 AM, Andrej said:

Lily is definitely suspect.

 

Kat and Wifi are still suspects as well, along with Lenlo and Talmanes.

 

I agree mostly. Id go Kat >= Lily >> Wifi atm.

 

The hammer was bad, She said she was waiting for Hallia to finish an ISO but then voted without any new posts from Hallia?

 

I'm thinking Kat is a good direction to go in. I'm starting to think you could be right about what you said earlier irt Wifi being guilty by association through Kat.

 

Talmanes needs to get the heat turned up on as well.

 

 

Red I note that he only has wildfire guilty by association with Kat. Always pushing kat first.

 

Funny thing is, I never said Wifi was guilty by association with Kat. I said she was with Luth. Shoulda caught that when he first responded

 

  On 6/20/2016 at 10:09 PM, dicetosser1 said:

Right now im thinking Wildfire is on AJs team and kat is not.

I could roll with that, though that doesnt stop Kat from being on the other wolf team

[Lenlo]

I got up to page 21 on my AJ iso, but have to run. Sorry. :(

[Eldrick4221]

My writeups haven't been interpreted properly by several people now.

 

To clarify, the people named were because of their position on the player list. It has no relevance to their role. It's just flavor.

 

Imagine us sitting around a table. I'm just asking each person in turn.

 

I named the first 2 and last 3 to illustrate that.

[dicetosser1]

  On 6/20/2016 at 10:10 PM, Lenlo said:

 

 

  On 6/20/2016 at 10:09 PM, dicetosser1 said:

Right now im thinking Wildfire is on AJs team and kat is not.

I could roll with that, though that doesnt stop Kat from being on the other wolf team

 

 

agreed

 

 

thanks for the effort len

[Wildfire Sedai]

Look I know I flipped a lot on AJ , scum---town---scum, but that was me trying to give a guy a break.....I mean he explained why he said what he said....they were jokes....I am a newbie I fell for it....and so did you all....you were too busy finding me and kat scummy than looking at the real scum...besides you should be thanking me

[dicetosser1]

so ure claiming then?  if so do it dont half do it