Ghostbusters Mafia - Game Over - Mafia Wins!

[Niniel]

Well, that makes it easier for me. I was thinking he was a mafia governor. :(

 

I´m about to go to bed but I´ll be back after work tomorrow. 

 

Tsuki, I assume that you viewed Eld and got a town read?

[Tsukibana]

Yup.

[Tsukibana]

[Ithillian Turambar]

Official Vote Count

 

Shad (1): Turin

 

 

 

Not voting (9): Eldrick, Niniel, Tsuki, Nikon, Dice, Sooh, Shad, Hallia, Alanna

 

 

With 10 alive it takes 6 to Lynch.

 

 

Day 3 deadline is 9pm BST Monday 25 April

 

Countdown to end of Day 3

 

 

Curse these weekends. Of course you can achieve a majority Lynch any time before.

[Nikonis]

FML, Had my iPhone crash during the iOS update to Beta2 then ran into a few issues from my office and some of our sister-offices but have my phone fixed and should be caught up on RL work for now.

 

Will try to get some the reads done tonight or tomorrow at latest giving us the weekend to figure out which players seem scummiest.  We need to catch a wolf soon since they are two deaths (three if you count the Symp) ahead of us ATM.

[Turin Turambar]

The symp counts toward mafia, hence being red.

 

Since Rey flipped townie and human. Zander did also and I'm town too. I'm backing off my earlier thought of the busters being the mafia. I think it could actually be either way. As to why I am not taking Eldrick's stance of not thinking about it I know Ithi Welcomes all attempts to game her modding.

 

Tsuki, curious as to why you didn't get blocked. Anyone wanna claim the N1 block?

[Tsukibana]

I have no idea, TBH... perhaps I was not doc protected, but Jailkeepered (or whatever it is called)

Honestly, I am surprised to be alive...

[Nikonis]

Been reading on and off and currently about half way through page 17 and got to finish up a couple more things here at work. Will hop back on when I get home in about an hour and pick up where I left off and hopefully get some solid progress in catching up.

 

 

-1 TSUKIBANA - PAGE 12, POST 226 - Knowing what we do at current time in game, I'd say that his comments about town ghosts probably being extremely rare and Rey looking bad may be attempts to start a mislynch train on someone.

 

Direct Replies

 

 

alanna is new to me... Hate that opening, smells funky as hell... - SERIOUS

 

dice claimed ghost *nods*... but claimed Townie ghost? O.o - SERIOUS

 

Rey says Towny too often to be sincere - SERIOUS

 

Turin is scum, because he married Ithi. Also, his favorite dessert is apparently Trifles... words are hard. - JOKRIOUS - Not Kidding... Turin is always scum until proven innocent - I remember that much :)

 

I think I am going to enjoy playing with Rey.

Teammates - SERIOUS

 

Hi, BFG <3 - SERIOUS

 

 

Turin wanted to know what was serious or joking... so here.

Allana comes in all cheerful-like, tell me about yourself, A/S/L like this is an AOL chat room. I don't like that, hence smells funky. Then she ignores it for 3-4 pages? Give me something to tunnel at.

 

@ Turin: Did not pursue ghost claim because I knew someone would pull an Eldrick... See below... 1 Townie ghost, maybe. 2?? Inconceivable... One of the two is shank-worthy.

 

Serious about Rey... me thinketh he protests too hard.

 

Again... Turin is scum until proven innocent. For 'reasons'... BUT, all jokes aside, I read Turin as Town atm due to year-old meta recollections... *shrug*

 

Serious - latch onto one insignificant slip up and catch the whole team. Was this the slip?

 

Serious - Duh

 

 

I don't think ghost = scum

 

I'm a ghost too.

 

i haven't seen the whole movie, but are all ghosts bad ghosts?

 

 

GhostBUSTERS... You or Dice are on the naughty list.

Also, how the blazes have you not seen this movie? How old are you?

 

 

 

Noting Rey's comments, not sure if it means anything but since the scum got him last night figured it was worth a look.   We know he redirected day one's vote to Zander so could be that the wolves got scared of one of his reads or trains.  Bolded and colored the one here but am sure there will be more as I progress towards current in game time reads.

 

 

Eldrick, that is poor reasoning to make someone a wolf. Basically that he is a good wolf. I disagree with the idea of you being willing to trust someone else to tell you he is town before you are even willing to consider it. 

 

It is very early still but I will look at Shad. 

 

 

D1  yolo wolf team of Dice, Zander and Tsuki.  

 
I like that Turin is making a concerted effort this early to point out potential scum teams. I also note that statistically speaking, at least one of either his himself or his yolo team is scum. 
 

 

 

[v] Dice {/v]

 

I don't like he kept his "joke" vote on Rey even after he seems to have a lean on John. Well he called him a hypocrite anyway.  

 

Rey hasnt even responded to it yet. I think its quite alright to leave a joke vote there til the joked one actuaslly sees it.

 

I think your stretching for something and im ure pick cause zander and john are being dopey.

 

FOS

 

Hey Dice, nice to see you again. Thanks for the welcoming vote, it made me feel all warm and gooey inside. 

I agreed here. I personally thought Turin was stretching on Dice for his joke vote on me. But, I don't like the whole "Dice claims ghost" situation: 
 

 

He then later, in the same post, says it again and then votes Tsuki (Claimed Cop).

 

I haven't been challenged on anything to protest at all. 

To my knowledge, there are no "good ghosts" in the film. However, lets not work on the assumption that the mod hasn't tweaked things around here. Everyone knows mods make changes to setups and are not necessarily ever always adherent to the original material. I think its reasonable to assume that Tsukibana knows this.

If we assume that statistically, at least one of Turin plus his yolo team (Zander, Dice, Tsukibana) are scum, my money is on Tsukibana right now. I get the feeling either Dice or Eldrick are also his pals. ​Dice, your post on not wanting to answer comes across as shady. 

To that end, Vote: Tsukibana.

I'd like to hear more from Shad and BFG, who haven't said a lot of much. 

 

 

 

 

+1 Shad - PAGE 16, POSTS 305 & 306 - Starting some reads, though also reads which are based off of reads of him. Would want to see more reads in general though still early posts in the game thread and only about four or five of the players I have anything to base general starts for opinions on so far.

 

 

 

 

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alanna is new to me... Hate that opening, smells funky as hell... - SERIOUS
 
dice claimed ghost *nods*... but claimed Townie ghost? O.o - SERIOUS
 
Rey says Towny too often to be sincere - SERIOUS
 
Turin is scum, because he married Ithi. Also, his favorite dessert is apparently Trifles... words are hard. - JOKRIOUS - Not Kidding... Turin is always scum until proven innocent - I remember that much :)
 

I think I am going to enjoy playing with Rey.

Teammates - SERIOUS
 
Hi, BFG <3 - SERIOUS

 

 
Turin wanted to know what was serious or joking... so here.
Allana comes in all cheerful-like, tell me about yourself, A/S/L like this is an AOL chat room. I don't like that, hence smells funky. Then she ignores it for 3-4 pages? Give me something to tunnel at.
 
@ Turin: Did not pursue ghost claim because I knew someone would pull an Eldrick... See below... 1 Townie ghost, maybe. 2?? Inconceivable... One of the two is shank-worthy.
 
Serious about Rey... me thinketh he protests too hard.
 
Again... Turin is scum until proven innocent. For 'reasons'... BUT, all jokes aside, I read Turin as Town atm due to year-old meta recollections... *shrug*
 
Serious - latch onto one insignificant slip up and catch the whole team. Was this the slip?
 
Serious - Duh

 

 
What is wrong about Laine's opening? It was a lighthearted way to start the game. To get to know the players she doesn't recognize.
 
Why is Turin scum until proven innocent to you?

 
What about Shad's comment makes you think it was a slip? It reads to me as liking another player's game so far, which is null.

 

This might seem a bit silly, but I don't really ever remember scum!Eldrick trying to discredit weak suspicions like this. He's not entirely aware as mafia of what the average town player would regard as a serious concern vs a trivial observation, and his scum game has never had much buddying to it either. More of a suss everyone and see what sticks approach, often peppered with TMI attempts to link towns to his scum mates. I really doubt he makes this post if he's w/w with Rey, and it's really not the sort of approach he takes as mafia in general.

 

 

 

 

 

 

@ Turin: Did not pursue ghost claim because I knew someone would pull an Eldrick... See below... 1 Townie ghost, maybe. 2?? Inconceivable... One of the two is shank-worthy.

I don't remember the movie terribly well to know if there'd be multiple ghosts that could be town, but don't you think mafia would have safe claims?

 

 
TBH, I can't think of a single benevolent ghost in the movie...
I think their safe claims wouldn't be ghosts.

 

 

I'm not going to jump to that, but I've never seen a player roll in and outright claim their mafia character unless the roles are pure random and any character can be scum.

 

 

 

 

 

 

PAGES 1-17 (+ CONFIRMED PLAYERS)

+2 Alanna

+2 Turin

+1 Shad

Eldrick

Niniel

Dice - CLAIMED STUMP

Hallia - CLAIMED DOC

-1 Tsuki - CLAIMED COP

-1 Sooh

 

CONFIRMED TOWN

Zander - Town Neighbor

Rey - 2 x Governor

 

CONFIRMED SCUM

RTE - Mafia Sympathiser

[Tsukibana]

LMAO - did you really just downvote me and accuse me of trying to start a mislynch when we had no idea what the setup might have looked like at that time??

[Nikonis]

LMAO - did you really just downvote me and accuse me of trying to start a mislynch when we had no idea what the setup might have looked like at that time??

 

I said may be but, as I said before, still way back in the beginingish of day one and reads and thoughts have a long way to go to be caught up.  Should also note that my reads in the last game I played were way off though I also never caught up in that one because of so much spam that each day it grew a ton.  Liking how this game seems easier to catch up on and one of the reasons I said I'd sub in rather than stick on the side just reading as I was in between things.

 

 

Anyhow, home now so going to try and buckle down and try to catch up or at least break a nice chunk off to get as far as I can.

[Nikonis]

Though yes, I said it was a possibility (If you are part of the scum team with fake claim) though no real material to back anything up... just a possibility... one of many (yes, I could also be completely wrong).

No offense, just +1 or -1 as I see them with the rare +0 to note something which may be of use later.

[Shad_]

There is no Eldrick train, unless you can convince me he is GF...

Are you saying that Mafia didn't roleblock you, but shot at someone other than you or the claimed doc?

 

Sounds a little weird.

[Nikonis]

A little ticked off right now since my computer just took a dump and locked up completely.  Had to restart to get it back up but now lost the ten pages I had skimmed through so far... Just hating this day...

Starting over again and hopefully, since I already wrote them out earlier, I can remember what I had down and catch up to where I was quickly.

[Hallia]

Evening all!

 

Lonngggg drive to JCon but totally worth!

[Eldrick4221]

[V]Shad [/v]

 

I liked his work yesterday, and it's making me doubt myself again, but I don't trust myself when it comes to shad.

 

I'm also wtl Sooh. I pointed out a connection to rte last night.

[Eldrick4221]

Thanks for the view Tsuki. Nobody ever views me :P

 

I had a theory as to what happened n1, but didn't want to bring it up at night. Maybe there isn't a role blocker. Maybe you didn't get a read BECAUSE you viewed laine. Don't know why though.

[Eldrick4221]

The symp counts toward mafia, hence being red.

 

Since Rey flipped townie and human. Zander did also and I'm town too. I'm backing off my earlier thought of the busters being the mafia. I think it could actually be either way. As to why I am not taking Eldrick's stance of not thinking about it I know Ithi Welcomes all attempts to game her modding.

 

Tsuki, curious as to why you didn't get blocked. Anyone wanna claim the N1 block?

I still think they could be.

 

And my stance was to not character claim anymore.

[Eldrick4221]

There are only the 2 prominent ghosts in the whole movie. The ghost at the beginning in the library that starts the whole thing, and the ghost they chase around the hotel and catch in the ballroom, kicking off their business.

 

Every other ghost is caught off screen and has no character to portray.

 

I looked Slimer up. He's the hotel ghost.

 

I'm the librarian ghost at the beginning.

 

I'm not expecting any more ghost claims, cuz there aren't any other ghosts TO claim.

[dicetosser1]

Thanks for the view Tsuki. Nobody ever views me :P

 

I had a theory as to what happened n1, but didn't want to bring it up at night. Maybe there isn't a role blocker. Maybe you didn't get a read BECAUSE you viewed laine. Don't know why though.

 

even a miller returns a result.

 

easy way to figure it out

 

Tsuki what qwere you told ure result was for N1?

[Nikonis]

-1 SHAD - PAGE 17, POST 238 - Shad gunna Shad is not much of a reply and, even though it is still early in the game, just rubs me a little the wrong way.  Good that he is answering questions but not enough to mitigate the feeling I got from the post.

 

 

 

 

 

Actually I'd like to know this myself. You recently touched base on dice and zander, but you haven't given any reason for Tsuki IIRC.

TBH, Tsuki is the most YOLO of the three. It is only the bold below. He acknowledges Dice claiming ghost but doesn't seem to want to pursue it in any meaningful way.

 

Would you say you "touched base" on Zander already? What made you think he and Dice might be w/w?

 

 
Shad youre asking more questions then seemingly digging in and giving your ow opinions.  Why?

 

Shad gonna Shad imo

 

 

 

 

+1 Niniel - Page 17, Post 337 - I like the effort but seems like most of that is just focused on one player, no ideas or reads on others... Would like to see more on others

SPOILER TAG DID NOT WORK

 

+1 DICE - Page 17, Post 340 - Sees the same thing I did

 

hi niniel      that feels sooooo weird!

 

 

thoughts on others besides tsuki?

 

 

 

+1 ALANNA - Page 21, Post 407, 408, 412 & 415 - I like that she is doing some quick reads and replies to others questions then votes on her feel.

 

#195 Turin is calling Dice a wolf for posting a ghostbuster meme about ghosts and not responding to him? I don't get it.

#212 @Turin: I've actually played with John before on JN so he's not new to me, I find him to be rather abrasive at times. But I'm also not going to hold back and let him use general tells on actions that are completely null, that's just silly

#220 @Eldrick: irt me making reads, I did throw a few out on my last post at the bottom. Not confident in any of them yet but they're more YOLO than anything. Maybe a bit LESS YOLO than Tsuki's reads which were odd.
 

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alanna is new to me... Hate that opening, smells funky as hell... - SERIOUS
 
dice claimed ghost *nods*... but claimed Townie ghost? O.o - SERIOUS
 
Rey says Towny too often to be sincere - SERIOUS
 
Turin is scum, because he married Ithi. Also, his favorite dessert is apparently Trifles... words are hard. - JOKRIOUS - Not Kidding... Turin is always scum until proven innocent - I remember that much :)
 

I think I am going to enjoy playing with Rey.

Teammates - SERIOUS
 
Hi, BFG <3 - SERIOUS

 

 

Turin wanted to know what was serious or joking... so here.
Allana comes in all cheerful-like, tell me about yourself, A/S/L like this is an AOL chat room. I don't like that, hence smells funky. Then she ignores it for 3-4 pages? Give me something to tunnel at.
 
@ Turin: Did not pursue ghost claim because I knew someone would pull an Eldrick... See below... 1 Townie ghost, maybe. 2?? Inconceivable... One of the two is shank-worthy.
 
Serious about Rey... me thinketh he protests too hard.
 
Again... Turin is scum until proven innocent. For 'reasons'... BUT, all jokes aside, I read Turin as Town atm due to year-old meta recollections... *shrug*
 
Serious - latch onto one insignificant slip up and catch the whole team. Was this the slip?
 
Serious - Duh

I don't think ghost = scum
 
I'm a ghost too.
 
i haven't seen the whole movie, but are all ghosts bad ghosts?

 GhostBUSTERS... You or Dice are on the naughty list.
Also, how the blazes have you not seen this movie? How old are you?

 

Ohhhh I can't even articulate how much I hate this post! First of all, his reads were all serious. That's like me scum reading Cory because he doens't like sour cream or calling Zander a wolf because he has a beard.

You seriously didn't like my entrance because I wanted to know a little bit about players I've never talked to before? It was a conversation starter to see who you are and where you're at as far as experience with the game. I think that's a pretty legitimate way to get information about other players and get conversation going.

Secondly, nobody is scum until proven innocent. Because someone is only proven inno by coroner report or cop peek. That's it. Hence starting people at null and valuing their performance +/- from that point. I don't like starting anyone at scum, because they're much more likely to be town anyways. (Wolves are minority or something?)

About saying "town" too often: this is a general tell that isn't a tell and means nothing. Should be null for any alignment.

Lastly, saying "if there are multiple ghosts, one must be town and the other scum" is setting up lynches and is disgusting. You have no idea how the mod set up the game, you have no idea whether the characters are 100% of their alignment so basically the only reason you'd want to make this assumption is to push a lynch which is scummy and bad. (Rey points this out on #232 apparently, + for him)

[v]Tsuki[/v]

And again, on this post. Do you REALLY think that Wolf!ghost!Eldrick would claim ghost if he really was a wolfy ghost? lol if you think people just straight up claim mafia around here.

#237 #238 OMG Tsuki's pushes are WEAK

/stopping at the top of 13 in my catchup for a moment before my post gets too long

 

 

 

 

Eldrick seems to be giving some little bits and pieces of feedback and comments on pages 21-22, not really anything long or deep but still worth a +1

 

PAGES 1-17 (+ CONFIRMED PLAYERS)

+3 Alanna

+2 Turin

+1 Dice - CLAIMED STUMP

+1 Eldrick

+1 Niniel

Shad

Hallia - CLAIMED DOC

-1 Tsuki - CLAIMED COP

-1 Sooh

 

CONFIRMED TOWN

Zander - Town Neighbor

Rey - 2 x Governor

 

CONFIRMED SCUM

RTE - Mafia Sympathiser

 

 

Really had a hard time getting back into reads after my computer had it's issues earlier... Sorry and hopefully tomorrow goes better so I can get caught up.  Really sorry for the delay, had hoped to finish day one today if not get further.

[Nikonis]

Evening all!

 

Lonngggg drive to JCon but totally worth!

 

Wow, have fun at the con!  Take photos for us all!

[Turin Turambar]

Dice, he said he got "NO RESULT".

[Ithillian Turambar]

 

Official Vote Count

 

Shad (2): Turin, Eldrick

 

 

 

Not voting (8): Niniel, Tsuki, Nikon, Dice, Sooh, Shad, Hallia, Alanna

 

 

With 10 alive it takes 6 to Lynch.

 

 

Day 3 deadline is 9pm BST Monday 25 April

 

Countdown to end of Day 3

 

 

Curse these weekends. Of course you can achieve a majority Lynch any time before.

[Ithillian Turambar]

Good morning :)

[dicetosser1]

Dice, he said he got "NO RESULT".

 

Thanks Turin  i couldnt remember and couldnt go hunting for it