Frozen Mafia Game Thread--GAME OVER--MAFIA WIN

[Sili Quirrels]

[v]Razen[/v]

L1

[Sili Quirrels]

[unvote]

[v]razen[/v]

[Sili Quirrels]

We need information.

[Kaylee]

  On 9/15/2015 at 4:05 PM, Sili Quirrels said:

[v]Razen[/v]

L1

I'm assuming this is a joke? You're voting Pral so you'd have to unvote.

[Kaylee]

Ninja'd

[Shad_]

Tempted to unvote before someone drops an accidental hammer while catching up.

[Shad_]

Meh

[Sili Quirrels]

Im fine being fifth.

[Shad_]

Last time I unvoted in this situation it just gave scum an opportunity to draw out the cop.  Meh.

[Shad_]

I'll keep my vote.  L-1 it is.

[Thane Vakarian]

  On 9/15/2015 at 4:11 PM, Shad_ said:

Tempted to unvote before someone drops an accidental hammer while catching up.

i kinda disagree. One should read the game before voting. It should be clear that Razen is at L-1. All and any vote on him are deliberate *nods*

[Sooh]

Accidental hammer or not. We have six people at this point who think Razen is scummy enough to vote for. I'm fine with any accidental hammers. 

[Kaylee]

  On 9/15/2015 at 4:16 PM, Sooh said:

Accidental hammer or not. We have six people at this point who think Razen is scummy enough to vote for. I'm fine with any accidental hammers.

As am I. He's had a chance to defend himself and I haven't seen anything to c change my mind.

[Shad_]

Back to plugging holes in my sidewalk with cement.  Fun times?

[Zander?]

 

I'd love to hear Zander explain that.

 

 

 

 

Sili and Dice are both trying to misrep each other. I don't see where Dice said he was clearing Zander - and I don't see where Sili said he was clearing Sooh. Sili gave a reason after he posted that Sooh was town - he believes she has difficulty faking tone. Dice's only mentions of Zander came when he voted him.

 

 

@ Sili - If you felt people were clearing Zander too early - who are they besides Dice? You posted this before Dice had even posted his first post:

 

  On 9/12/2015 at 5:33 PM, Sili Quirrels said:

Uh. Ppl clearing zander too fast.

 

Sooh town.

Why aren't you pushing those people over Dice then?

 

But what I find interesting is that we have two quick unexplained votes on Sili - and two people sitting on the fence about it. I like AJ's vote less than Zander's - Zander at least attempted to justify his, even though I don't agree with the justification. Disagreeing with Dice's assessment of the situation doesn't warrant a vote by itself, IMO. I don't like the wait and see attitude that Sooh and Thane are taking either.

 

[v]AJ[/v]

 

WOLFY.

 

you list a bunch of bad stuff about Sili and Dice and then vote AJ??

 

WTH??

 

i HATE this post

 

 

 

 

 

Sili and Dice are both trying to misrep each other. I don't see where Dice said he was clearing Zander - and I don't see where Sili said he was clearing Sooh. Sili gave a reason after he posted that Sooh was town - he believes she has difficulty faking tone. Dice's only mentions of Zander came when he voted him.

 

 

@ Sili - If you felt people were clearing Zander too early - who are they besides Dice? You posted this before Dice had even posted his first post:

 

Why aren't you pushing those people over Dice then?

 

But what I find interesting is that we have two quick unexplained votes on Sili - and two people sitting on the fence about it. I like AJ's vote less than Zander's - Zander at least attempted to justify his, even though I don't agree with the justification. Disagreeing with Dice's assessment of the situation doesn't warrant a vote by itself, IMO. I don't like the wait and see attitude that Sooh and Thane are taking either.

 

[v]AJ[/v]

 

I find the wording of this odd.  Do you think they're both doing it intentionally?

 

Shad

 

 

  On 9/13/2015 at 2:12 PM, Razen said:

 

  On 9/13/2015 at 1:22 PM, Shad_ said:

I find the wording of this odd. Do you think they're both doing it intentionally?

Yes. Sili did initially twist Dice's words to reach an untrue conclusion. But it worked. And from that point - it's not a misrep. When I reread it closely - Dice never said anything about clearing Zander until pressed by Sili - he even voted him as a joke. That's not clearing behavior, if you ask me. So why pick Dice to hop on out of all people regarding the clearing of Zander initially? He is the first one to bring the post up. And Sili hops all over him for that. Initially - it's wrong. He makes the assumption that Dice has cleared Zander based on tone when he hadn't actually done that at that point in the game. Because as Dice pointed out - he hadn't mentioned Zander being town or anything when he had initially posted. That doesn't happen until later.

 

  On 9/13/2015 at 2:20 AM, Sili Quirrels said:

Sili Quirrels, on 12 Sept 2015 - 9:20 PM, said:

 

  On 9/13/2015 at 2:09 AM, dicetosser1 said:

dicetosser1, on 12 Sept 2015 - 9:09 PM, said:

 

who said my conclusion is wrong? you come in saying Zanders getting cleared too quick   he basically got cleared for exactly the same reason you cleared sooh in the next sentence.

 

you say its bad one sentence and then do it yourself. Thats definitely talking out both sides of your mouth imo and I dont really see that as a good thing.

 

Even if i do agree that sooh is town based on the same thing you explain later. her tone.

 

But you didnt say that here you just threw out a double standard.

So let's be clear here. If you don't have a double standard, you are clearing Zander for faking tone when he spent the last mafia game showcasing how well he could fake tone?

 

And I am not 'clearing' Sooh so don't even.

But in the purple - Dice caves. He admits he's clearing Zander. Where Dice says "he basically got cleared for exactly the same reason you cleared sooh.."

 

The red is the point of Sili's push on Dice - which given the purple, is now a valid point to make. It's the part where Sili says "you are clearing Zander for faking tone..."

 

And yet Dice takes care to go back and say "I didn't clear Zander anywhere - you're misrepping me Sili."

 

I quoted the massive post where he does that below. In spoiler, so it doesn't kill people's eyes.

 

It's not a misrep at all from Sili after the purple point - it reads to me like Dice is going back to try and cover for his inadvertent admission regarding Zander. And call Sili out for making a bogus point when it really isn't.

 

 

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  On 9/13/2015 at 4:52 AM, dicetosser1 said:

 

  On 9/12/2015 at 5:33 PM, Sili Quirrels said:

Uh. Ppl clearing zander too fast.

 

Sooh town.

Right here you declare sooh town. 2 words Sooh Town. That sounds like clearing to me

 

 

Also you wanna tell me where I said Zander is Town? here are ALL my posts this game to make it easy for you

 

 

 

  On 9/12/2015 at 11:42 PM, dicetosser1 said:

 

  On 9/12/2015 at 2:40 PM, Zander said:

Sweet Randed Town again!!!!

 

 

HardClaim: Darth Vader

Vote Princessfor not singing as told too

  On 9/12/2015 at 3:00 PM, Zander said:

 

  On 9/12/2015 at 2:59 PM, Aiel Heart said:

 

  On 9/12/2015 at 2:58 PM, Zander said:

 

  On 9/12/2015 at 2:56 PM, Aiel Heart said:

 

  On 9/12/2015 at 2:48 PM, Sooh said:

 

  On 9/12/2015 at 2:45 PM, Zander said:

 

  On 9/12/2015 at 2:43 PM, Sooh said:

[v]Zander[/v]

 

I thought you were done doing that.

I just did.

If I could give points, I would for this post

Pretty sure Hearts a wolf

 

[v] Heart [/v]

10 points from Gryffendor!

Vader prolly Slytherin imo

Vader was a Hufflepuff who was loyal to the wrong person.

 

  On 9/12/2015 at 3:07 PM, Zander said:

 

  On 9/12/2015 at 3:01 PM, Aiel Heart said:

Haha we've started the quote pyramids already--should probably stop to save those who are playing via mobile XD

 

 

 

Darth says.....YOLO imo

 + a million for Vader in Hawaii

 

  On 9/12/2015 at 5:33 PM, Sili Quirrels said:

Uh. Ppl clearing zander too fast.

 

Sooh town.

Ok so game post here not a fan of this post even tho i agree regarding sooh. He immediately talks outside both sides of his mouth  but he does give a reason later

  On 9/12/2015 at 5:43 PM, Aiel Heart said:

Basically what's going on in this thread right now...

 

Heart = Greatest mod EVA!!!!!

  On 9/13/2015 at 2:09 AM, dicetosser1 said:

who said my conclusion is wrong? you come in saying Zanders getting cleared too quick  he basically got cleared for exactly the same reason you cleared sooh in the next sentence.

 

you say its bad one sentence and then do it yourself. Thats definitely talking out both sides of your mouth imo and I dont really see that as a good thing.

 

Even if i do agree that sooh is town based on the same thing you explain later. her tone.

 

But you didnt say that here you just threw out a double standard.

Note the bold  thats not me saying Zander is town. Your post that I had issue with? It came before I had even posted in the gameand you complained that "people are clearing zander too quick" My response there in blue is that he was getting cleared bythose people you complained about for the same reason you declared sooh town.

 

Ididnt declare him town  i only voted Princess and +1d a gif

 

 

So sili wanna declare who the rest of your team is now? Cause i think i just screwed you out of your easy push.

 

 

vote sili

 

 

I can understand if Dice didn't realize that he actually made that statement regarding clearing Zander because of tone. But he made it - and that's what drew my attention. And what's very interesting is that AJ basically saw fit to hop along with that bogus reasoning that Dice put out there. Zander uses Sili's refusal to address the point anymore as the basis for his vote - which looks better from Zander, but again - it's based on the assumption that Dice didn't actually say what he did. Dice's vote is pure OMGUS - the others, not so much. And those are the ones I'm concerned with.

 

 

Again making points against/ about Dice/Sili....but voting AJ for prolly seeing the same thing???

 

BAD.

 

 

  On 9/14/2015 at 10:45 PM, Zander said:

 

  On 9/14/2015 at 4:18 AM, Sooh said:

Razen seems to be playing the "all players are scummy until proven otherwise"-game. That is something I have come to expect from a scum player rather than a townie. 

 

Shad, I like your tone so far this game. 

 

interesting point on Razen Sooh.

 

 

 

  On 9/14/2015 at 11:58 PM, Zander said:

 

  On 9/14/2015 at 11:32 PM, Kaylee said:

Zander: When you're caught up I'd like to know where you stand. It's hard with the catch up.

 

Town Reads:

 

Dice

Thane

Kay

 

Light Town:

 

AJ

Verb

 

 

Sooh

 

Uneasy:

 

Hallia

 

Wolf:

 

 

SIli- Ive actually not minded some of Sili's more recent posts.

Razen-  Ive went into this.

 

 

 

  On 9/14/2015 at 11:35 PM, Sooh said:

 

  On 9/14/2015 at 11:24 PM, Zander said:

*snip*

 

why?

 

You quoted why, if it's the Razen vote you're referring to.

 

 

Too many pages open I had the wrong quote.  sorry.

 

[Andrej]

Shad you are apparently the handiest of men.

[Thane Vakarian]

my question to the players is: do we give Razen a chance for further explanation ? I would say yes, he deserves some final words.

[Zander?]

  On 9/14/2015 at 10:04 PM, Zander said:

 

  On 9/13/2015 at 12:41 PM, Razen said:

Sili and Dice are both trying to misrep each other. I don't see where Dice said he was clearing Zander - and I don't see where Sili said he was clearing Sooh. Sili gave a reason after he posted that Sooh was town - he believes she has difficulty faking tone. Dice's only mentions of Zander came when he voted him.

 

 

@ Sili - If you felt people were clearing Zander too early - who are they besides Dice? You posted this before Dice had even posted his first post:

 

  On 9/12/2015 at 5:33 PM, Sili Quirrels said:

Uh. Ppl clearing zander too fast.

 

Sooh town.

Why aren't you pushing those people over Dice then?

 

But what I find interesting is that we have two quick unexplained votes on Sili - and two people sitting on the fence about it. I like AJ's vote less than Zander's - Zander at least attempted to justify his, even though I don't agree with the justification. Disagreeing with Dice's assessment of the situation doesn't warrant a vote by itself, IMO. I don't like the wait and see attitude that Sooh and Thane are taking either.

 

[v]AJ[/v]

 

 

WOLFY.

 

you list a bunch of bad stuff about Sili and Dice and then vote AJ??

 

WTH??

 

i HATE this post

 

 

  On 9/13/2015 at 1:22 PM, Shad_ said:

 

  On 9/13/2015 at 12:41 PM, Razen said:

Sili and Dice are both trying to misrep each other. I don't see where Dice said he was clearing Zander - and I don't see where Sili said he was clearing Sooh. Sili gave a reason after he posted that Sooh was town - he believes she has difficulty faking tone. Dice's only mentions of Zander came when he voted him.

 

 

@ Sili - If you felt people were clearing Zander too early - who are they besides Dice? You posted this before Dice had even posted his first post:

 

  On 9/12/2015 at 5:33 PM, Sili Quirrels said:

Uh. Ppl clearing zander too fast.

 

Sooh town.

Why aren't you pushing those people over Dice then?

 

But what I find interesting is that we have two quick unexplained votes on Sili - and two people sitting on the fence about it. I like AJ's vote less than Zander's - Zander at least attempted to justify his, even though I don't agree with the justification. Disagreeing with Dice's assessment of the situation doesn't warrant a vote by itself, IMO. I don't like the wait and see attitude that Sooh and Thane are taking either.

 

[v]AJ[/v]

 

 

I find the wording of this odd.  Do you think they're both doing it intentionally?

 

 

Shad

 

 

  On 9/13/2015 at 2:12 PM, Razen said:

 

  On 9/13/2015 at 1:22 PM, Shad_ said:

Shad_, on 13 Sept 2015 - 08:22 AM, said:

  On 9/13/2015 at 12:41 PM, Razen said:

Razen, on 13 Sept 2015 - 07:41 AM, said:

 

 

Sili and Dice are both trying to misrep each other. I don't see where Dice said he was clearing Zander - and I don't see where Sili said he was clearing Sooh. Sili gave a reason after he posted that Sooh was town - he believes she has difficulty faking tone. Dice's only mentions of Zander came when he voted him.

 

 

@ Sili - If you felt people were clearing Zander too early - who are they besides Dice? You posted this before Dice had even posted his first post:

  On 9/12/2015 at 5:33 PM, Sili Quirrels said:

Sili Quirrels, on 12 Sept 2015 - 12:33 PM, said:

 

Uh. Ppl clearing zander too fast.

 

Sooh town.

Why aren't you pushing those people over Dice then?

 

But what I find interesting is that we have two quick unexplained votes on Sili - and two people sitting on the fence about it. I like AJ's vote less than Zander's - Zander at least attempted to justify his, even though I don't agree with the justification. Disagreeing with Dice's assessment of the situation doesn't warrant a vote by itself, IMO. I don't like the wait and see attitude that Sooh and Thane are taking either.

 

[v]AJ[/v]

 

I find the wording of this odd. Do you think they're both doing it intentionally?

Yes. Sili did initially twist Dice's words to reach an untrue conclusion. But it worked. And from that point - it's not a misrep. When I reread it closely - Dice never said anything about clearing Zander until pressed by Sili - he even voted him as a joke. That's not clearing behavior, if you ask me. So why pick Dice to hop on out of all people regarding the clearing of Zander initially? He is the first one to bring the post up. And Sili hops all over him for that. Initially - it's wrong. He makes the assumption that Dice has cleared Zander based on tone when he hadn't actually done that at that point in the game. Because as Dice pointed out - he hadn't mentioned Zander being town or anything when he had initially posted. That doesn't happen until later.

 

  On 9/13/2015 at 2:20 AM, Sili Quirrels said:

Sili Quirrels, on 12 Sept 2015 - 9:20 PM, said:

 

  On 9/13/2015 at 2:09 AM, dicetosser1 said:

dicetosser1, on 12 Sept 2015 - 9:09 PM, said:

 

who said my conclusion is wrong? you come in saying Zanders getting cleared too quick   he basically got cleared for exactly the same reason you cleared sooh in the next sentence.

 

you say its bad one sentence and then do it yourself. Thats definitely talking out both sides of your mouth imo and I dont really see that as a good thing.

 

Even if i do agree that sooh is town based on the same thing you explain later. her tone.

 

But you didnt say that here you just threw out a double standard.

So let's be clear here. If you don't have a double standard, you are clearing Zander for faking tone when he spent the last mafia game showcasing how well he could fake tone?

 

And I am not 'clearing' Sooh so don't even.

But in the purple - Dice caves. He admits he's clearing Zander. Where Dice says "he basically got cleared for exactly the same reason you cleared sooh.."

 

The red is the point of Sili's push on Dice - which given the purple, is now a valid point to make. It's the part where Sili says "you are clearing Zander for faking tone..."

 

And yet Dice takes care to go back and say "I didn't clear Zander anywhere - you're misrepping me Sili."

 

I quoted the massive post where he does that below. In spoiler, so it doesn't kill people's eyes.

 

It's not a misrep at all from Sili after the purple point - it reads to me like Dice is going back to try and cover for his inadvertent admission regarding Zander. And call Sili out for making a bogus point when it really isn't.

 

 

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  On 9/13/2015 at 4:52 AM, dicetosser1 said:

 

  On 9/12/2015 at 5:33 PM, Sili Quirrels said:

 

Uh. Ppl clearing zander too fast.

 

Sooh town.

Right here you declare sooh town. 2 words Sooh Town. That sounds like clearing to me

 

 

Also you wanna tell me where I said Zander is Town? here are ALL my posts this game to make it easy for you

 

 

 

  On 9/12/2015 at 11:42 PM, dicetosser1 said:

 

  On 9/12/2015 at 2:40 PM, Zander said:

 

Sweet Randed Town again!!!!

 

 

HardClaim: Darth Vader

Vote Princessfor not singing as told too

  On 9/12/2015 at 3:00 PM, Zander said:

 

  On 9/12/2015 at 2:59 PM, Aiel Heart said:

 

  On 9/12/2015 at 2:58 PM, Zander said:

 

  On 9/12/2015 at 2:56 PM, Aiel Heart said:

 

  On 9/12/2015 at 2:48 PM, Sooh said:

 

  On 9/12/2015 at 2:45 PM, Zander said:

 

  On 9/12/2015 at 2:43 PM, Sooh said:

 

[v]Zander[/v]

 

I thought you were done doing that.

I just did.

If I could give points, I would for this post

Pretty sure Hearts a wolf

 

[v] Heart [/v]

10 points from Gryffendor!

Vader prolly Slytherin imo

Vader was a Hufflepuff who was loyal to the wrong person.

 

  On 9/12/2015 at 3:07 PM, Zander said:

 

  On 9/12/2015 at 3:01 PM, Aiel Heart said:

 

Haha we've started the quote pyramids already--should probably stop to save those who are playing via mobile XD

 

 

 

Darth says.....YOLO imo

 + a million for Vader in Hawaii

 

  On 9/12/2015 at 5:33 PM, Sili Quirrels said:

Uh. Ppl clearing zander too fast.

 

Sooh town.

Ok so game post here not a fan of this post even tho i agree regarding sooh. He immediately talks outside both sides of his mouth  but he does give a reason later

  On 9/12/2015 at 5:43 PM, Aiel Heart said:

Basically what's going on in this thread right now...

 

Heart = Greatest mod EVA!!!!!

  On 9/13/2015 at 2:09 AM, dicetosser1 said:

who said my conclusion is wrong? you come in saying Zanders getting cleared too quick  he basically got cleared for exactly the same reason you cleared sooh in the next sentence.

 

you say its bad one sentence and then do it yourself. Thats definitely talking out both sides of your mouth imo and I dont really see that as a good thing.

 

Even if i do agree that sooh is town based on the same thing you explain later. her tone.

 

But you didnt say that here you just threw out a double standard.

Note the bold  thats not me saying Zander is town. Your post that I had issue with? It came before I had even posted in the gameand you complained that "people are clearing zander too quick" My response there in blue is that he was getting cleared bythose people you complained about for the same reason you declared sooh town.

 

Ididnt declare him town  i only voted Princess and +1d a gif

 

 

So sili wanna declare who the rest of your team is now? Cause i think i just screwed you out of your easy push.

 

 

vote sili

 

 

I can understand if Dice didn't realize that he actually made that statement regarding clearing Zander because of tone. But he made it - and that's what drew my attention. And what's very interesting is that AJ basically saw fit to hop along with that bogus reasoning that Dice put out there. Zander uses Sili's refusal to address the point anymore as the basis for his vote - which looks better from Zander, but again - it's based on the assumption that Dice didn't actually say what he did. Dice's vote is pure OMGUS - the others, not so much. And those are the ones I'm concerned with.

 

 

Again making points against/ about Dice/Sili....but voting AJ for prolly seeing the same thing???

 

BAD.

 

[Thane Vakarian]

  On 9/15/2015 at 4:37 PM, Andrej said:

Shad you are apparently the handiest of men.

should i list all the things i did in and around my house?

[Zander?]

  On 9/15/2015 at 4:39 PM, Thane Vakarian said:

my question to the players is: do we give Razen a chance for further explanation ? I would say yes, he deserves some final words.

 

[Kaylee]

  On 9/15/2015 at 4:39 PM, Thane Vakarian said:

my question to the players is: do we give Razen a chance for further explanation ? I would say yes, he deserves some final words.

The thing is, he's had a train in him for awhile now. I'm not saying we rush and hammer. Just that he's had time.

 

I'm fine with letting him explain himself though.

[Sooh]

Zander? Can you cut out some things in the posts you quote just to make it more readable?

[Kaylee]

Zander: I'm not sure what you're trying to say with quoting all that. Can you please clarify?

[Zander?]

  On 9/15/2015 at 4:37 PM, Andrej said:

Shad you are apparently the handiest of men.

 

  On 9/15/2015 at 4:39 PM, Thane Vakarian said:

 

  On 9/15/2015 at 4:37 PM, Andrej said:

Shad you are apparently the handiest of men.

should i list all the things i did in and around my house?

 

 

 

[Zander?]

  On 9/15/2015 at 4:05 PM, Andrej said:

I'd love to hear Zander explain that.

 

 

  On 9/15/2015 at 4:39 PM, Zander said:

 

  On 9/14/2015 at 10:04 PM, Zander said:

 

  On 9/13/2015 at 12:41 PM, Razen said:

Sili and Dice are both trying to misrep each other. I don't see where Dice said he was clearing Zander - and I don't see where Sili said he was clearing Sooh. Sili gave a reason after he posted that Sooh was town - he believes she has difficulty faking tone. Dice's only mentions of Zander came when he voted him.

 

 

@ Sili - If you felt people were clearing Zander too early - who are they besides Dice? You posted this before Dice had even posted his first post:

 

  On 9/12/2015 at 5:33 PM, Sili Quirrels said:

Uh. Ppl clearing zander too fast.

 

Sooh town.

Why aren't you pushing those people over Dice then?

 

But what I find interesting is that we have two quick unexplained votes on Sili - and two people sitting on the fence about it. I like AJ's vote less than Zander's - Zander at least attempted to justify his, even though I don't agree with the justification. Disagreeing with Dice's assessment of the situation doesn't warrant a vote by itself, IMO. I don't like the wait and see attitude that Sooh and Thane are taking either.

 

[v]AJ[/v]

 

 

WOLFY.

 

you list a bunch of bad stuff about Sili and Dice and then vote AJ??

 

WTH??

 

i HATE this post

 

 

  On 9/13/2015 at 1:22 PM, Shad_ said:

 

  On 9/13/2015 at 12:41 PM, Razen said:

Sili and Dice are both trying to misrep each other. I don't see where Dice said he was clearing Zander - and I don't see where Sili said he was clearing Sooh. Sili gave a reason after he posted that Sooh was town - he believes she has difficulty faking tone. Dice's only mentions of Zander came when he voted him.

 

 

@ Sili - If you felt people were clearing Zander too early - who are they besides Dice? You posted this before Dice had even posted his first post:

 

  On 9/12/2015 at 5:33 PM, Sili Quirrels said:

Uh. Ppl clearing zander too fast.

 

Sooh town.

Why aren't you pushing those people over Dice then?

 

But what I find interesting is that we have two quick unexplained votes on Sili - and two people sitting on the fence about it. I like AJ's vote less than Zander's - Zander at least attempted to justify his, even though I don't agree with the justification. Disagreeing with Dice's assessment of the situation doesn't warrant a vote by itself, IMO. I don't like the wait and see attitude that Sooh and Thane are taking either.

 

[v]AJ[/v]

 

 

I find the wording of this odd.  Do you think they're both doing it intentionally?

 

 

Shad

 

 

  On 9/13/2015 at 2:12 PM, Razen said:

 

  On 9/13/2015 at 1:22 PM, Shad_ said:

Shad_, on 13 Sept 2015 - 08:22 AM, said:

  On 9/13/2015 at 12:41 PM, Razen said:

Razen, on 13 Sept 2015 - 07:41 AM, said:

 

 

Sili and Dice are both trying to misrep each other. I don't see where Dice said he was clearing Zander - and I don't see where Sili said he was clearing Sooh. Sili gave a reason after he posted that Sooh was town - he believes she has difficulty faking tone. Dice's only mentions of Zander came when he voted him.

 

 

@ Sili - If you felt people were clearing Zander too early - who are they besides Dice? You posted this before Dice had even posted his first post:

  On 9/12/2015 at 5:33 PM, Sili Quirrels said:

Sili Quirrels, on 12 Sept 2015 - 12:33 PM, said:

 

Uh. Ppl clearing zander too fast.

 

Sooh town.

Why aren't you pushing those people over Dice then?

 

But what I find interesting is that we have two quick unexplained votes on Sili - and two people sitting on the fence about it. I like AJ's vote less than Zander's - Zander at least attempted to justify his, even though I don't agree with the justification. Disagreeing with Dice's assessment of the situation doesn't warrant a vote by itself, IMO. I don't like the wait and see attitude that Sooh and Thane are taking either.

 

[v]AJ[/v]

 

I find the wording of this odd. Do you think they're both doing it intentionally?

Yes. Sili did initially twist Dice's words to reach an untrue conclusion. But it worked. And from that point - it's not a misrep. When I reread it closely - Dice never said anything about clearing Zander until pressed by Sili - he even voted him as a joke. That's not clearing behavior, if you ask me. So why pick Dice to hop on out of all people regarding the clearing of Zander initially? He is the first one to bring the post up. And Sili hops all over him for that. Initially - it's wrong. He makes the assumption that Dice has cleared Zander based on tone when he hadn't actually done that at that point in the game. Because as Dice pointed out - he hadn't mentioned Zander being town or anything when he had initially posted. That doesn't happen until later.

 

  On 9/13/2015 at 2:20 AM, Sili Quirrels said:

Sili Quirrels, on 12 Sept 2015 - 9:20 PM, said:

 

  On 9/13/2015 at 2:09 AM, dicetosser1 said:

dicetosser1, on 12 Sept 2015 - 9:09 PM, said:

 

who said my conclusion is wrong? you come in saying Zanders getting cleared too quick   he basically got cleared for exactly the same reason you cleared sooh in the next sentence.

 

you say its bad one sentence and then do it yourself. Thats definitely talking out both sides of your mouth imo and I dont really see that as a good thing.

 

Even if i do agree that sooh is town based on the same thing you explain later. her tone.

 

But you didnt say that here you just threw out a double standard.

So let's be clear here. If you don't have a double standard, you are clearing Zander for faking tone when he spent the last mafia game showcasing how well he could fake tone?

 

And I am not 'clearing' Sooh so don't even.

But in the purple - Dice caves. He admits he's clearing Zander. Where Dice says "he basically got cleared for exactly the same reason you cleared sooh.."

 

The red is the point of Sili's push on Dice - which given the purple, is now a valid point to make. It's the part where Sili says "you are clearing Zander for faking tone..."

 

And yet Dice takes care to go back and say "I didn't clear Zander anywhere - you're misrepping me Sili."

 

I quoted the massive post where he does that below. In spoiler, so it doesn't kill people's eyes.

 

It's not a misrep at all from Sili after the purple point - it reads to me like Dice is going back to try and cover for his inadvertent admission regarding Zander. And call Sili out for making a bogus point when it really isn't.

 

 

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  On 9/13/2015 at 4:52 AM, dicetosser1 said:

 

  On 9/12/2015 at 5:33 PM, Sili Quirrels said:

Uh. Ppl clearing zander too fast.

 

Sooh town.

Right here you declare sooh town. 2 words Sooh Town. That sounds like clearing to me

 

 

Also you wanna tell me where I said Zander is Town? here are ALL my posts this game to make it easy for you

 

 

 

  On 9/12/2015 at 11:42 PM, dicetosser1 said:

 

  On 9/12/2015 at 2:40 PM, Zander said:

Sweet Randed Town again!!!!

 

 

HardClaim: Darth Vader

Vote Princessfor not singing as told too

  On 9/12/2015 at 3:00 PM, Zander said:

 

  On 9/12/2015 at 2:59 PM, Aiel Heart said:

 

  On 9/12/2015 at 2:58 PM, Zander said:

 

  On 9/12/2015 at 2:56 PM, Aiel Heart said:

 

  On 9/12/2015 at 2:48 PM, Sooh said:

 

  On 9/12/2015 at 2:45 PM, Zander said:

 

  On 9/12/2015 at 2:43 PM, Sooh said:

[v]Zander[/v]

 

I thought you were done doing that.

I just did.

If I could give points, I would for this post

Pretty sure Hearts a wolf

 

[v] Heart [/v]

10 points from Gryffendor!

Vader prolly Slytherin imo

Vader was a Hufflepuff who was loyal to the wrong person.

 

  On 9/12/2015 at 3:07 PM, Zander said:

 

  On 9/12/2015 at 3:01 PM, Aiel Heart said:

Haha we've started the quote pyramids already--should probably stop to save those who are playing via mobile XD

 

 

 

Darth says.....YOLO imo

 + a million for Vader in Hawaii

 

  On 9/12/2015 at 5:33 PM, Sili Quirrels said:

Uh. Ppl clearing zander too fast.

 

Sooh town.

Ok so game post here not a fan of this post even tho i agree regarding sooh. He immediately talks outside both sides of his mouth  but he does give a reason later

  On 9/12/2015 at 5:43 PM, Aiel Heart said:

Basically what's going on in this thread right now...

 

Heart = Greatest mod EVA!!!!!

  On 9/13/2015 at 2:09 AM, dicetosser1 said:

who said my conclusion is wrong? you come in saying Zanders getting cleared too quick  he basically got cleared for exactly the same reason you cleared sooh in the next sentence.

 

you say its bad one sentence and then do it yourself. Thats definitely talking out both sides of your mouth imo and I dont really see that as a good thing.

 

Even if i do agree that sooh is town based on the same thing you explain later. her tone.

 

But you didnt say that here you just threw out a double standard.

Note the bold  thats not me saying Zander is town. Your post that I had issue with? It came before I had even posted in the gameand you complained that "people are clearing zander too quick" My response there in blue is that he was getting cleared bythose people you complained about for the same reason you declared sooh town.

 

Ididnt declare him town  i only voted Princess and +1d a gif

 

 

So sili wanna declare who the rest of your team is now? Cause i think i just screwed you out of your easy push.

 

 

vote sili

 

 

I can understand if Dice didn't realize that he actually made that statement regarding clearing Zander because of tone. But he made it - and that's what drew my attention. And what's very interesting is that AJ basically saw fit to hop along with that bogus reasoning that Dice put out there. Zander uses Sili's refusal to address the point anymore as the basis for his vote - which looks better from Zander, but again - it's based on the assumption that Dice didn't actually say what he did. Dice's vote is pure OMGUS - the others, not so much. And those are the ones I'm concerned with.

 

 

Again making points against/ about Dice/Sili....but voting AJ for prolly seeing the same thing???

 

BAD.

 

 

 

Im answering AJ's question about me voting Razen.