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Basel Gill

By Basel Gill
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hazelkrs1 Spam Master

hazelkrs1

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In other news, Dice 2.0 looks town to me, could be confbias after my last read of X, but his enthusiasm upon rejoining looks legit to me.

 

Lenlo is pinging even moar lately. Is over-apologetic, and def falling prey to whyme fryme.

 

Feels like it's been forever since I heard from Pray. I guess he had a reads list a while ago? Will have to check it again. I expect his activity to die down during the weekend, but in general his activity this game has been far below what I'd expect.

 

Speaking of people I'd like to hear from, Chae hasn't popped in with anything significant in a LONG time.

 

... don't really remember anything else atm. Gonna do a fancy color coded reads list, then I gotta focus on my other mafia game, I've kinda been neglecting it a bit.

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hazelkrs1 Spam Master

hazelkrs1

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BFG

Ithi

Turin

Dice 2.0

 

are my only LOCK CLEARS. Wish I had more, but eh still early.

 

Csarmi

Tina

Tsuki

 

I wouldn't lynch anytime soon, but with the right flips I might suspect these two more eventually. If Chae is scum like I believe, then well we might have to test Csarmi's miller claim after all. Tina looked scummy to me for her fence-sitting posts during the Thunderdome (did she ever respond to me btw? Don't recall...), but looks more town now after seeing Hallia's "reasoning" for thinking Tina scum. Tsuki looked town to me for a while, but a number of others I trust don't seem to agree, and his recent read on me looked strange.

 

NotBob

Pray

Lenlo

 

This crew is my nullish to scum reads. Honestly, I don't even remember much NotBob has said this game at all. Prob need to iso him. Lenlo pinging a lot moar lately with the arguing with townreads and whyme fryme. Pray too quiet.

 

Chae

Hallia

Thane

 

These guys are all LOCK SCUM.

 

Feelin pretty confident bout these reads actually. If I can find just one townie in both middle groups, this game is #solved.

Pralaya Master

Pralaya

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Vote count:

 

Mynd (9): Ithi, Turin, Chae, Pral, dice, Len, 鲍勃不是我的名字, Tina

Ithi (2): Mynd, Hallia

 

Not Voting (6): Thrax, Tsuki, Despo, Thane, BFG, Csarmi

 

 

that was the hammer.

 

it is now twilight.

 

Just from the final vote count, I'm confident Tina is scum.  I go back and forth on Chae.

 

What do you think of Tina's hammer with nothing else really coming with it?

 

 

I don't think we can do a lot of analysis can be done on the vote count since it was a gladiator vote and with both of them possibly town. Scum need not even have jumped anywhere, as it was quite sure one of them would be lynched anyway. If Ithi flips scum, then I would come back and look at the vote count in detail.

 

However, I would like to add that Tina is indeed suspicious because she spends a lot of time softly FoSing Mynd, as it trying to get a town cred before eventually voting him. IMO, there was only two choice of lynch yesterday and I don't see it necessary to think that hard for a vote. Either you find one of them scum and vote or you see who is the lesser loss and vote. Her analysis of the situation sounds fake, as if trying to stand out as townie, which is exactly what she does as scum

 

 

 

I can´t get a grip of this situation. 

 

Ithi: Thought she was town with her case on Thane. She looked like she really scum hunted. Then she abandoned her read on Thane and turned against Mynd, who was voting Thane. That felt strange. But would mafia Ithi make a case on mafia Thane in the first place? I didn´t like that she asked if I wanted to get her mod killed. 

 

Mynd: I didn´t like how he tried to use Thane´s character claim as a reason for his vote. He accused Ithi of being personal etc that I don´t think was correct. But ... why would he challenge Ithi if he was mafia? 

 

Both assumed things about the set up. Ithi (and others) assumed that there is one vanilla in this game. Mynd assumed that Thane´s character can´t be vanilla. 

 

And my base of this is that Thane is mafia but I might not be right about that. He is the only one I have a strong mafia feeling of though. 

 

 

 

 

I have a problem with Mynd's latest posts.

 

1. Again assuming that there is only one vt.

2. Ithi's alignment doesn't tell us Turin's.

3. "We can play a more honest geme without you..." Really?

 

I think that some stuff are boardering getting too personal right now.

 

 

 

 

Good morning.

 

[v] Mynd [/v]

 
Pralaya Master

Pralaya

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Did you say that about not voting in the first 24 hours of a day? or is that only D1? I don't remember either way TBH.

 I try not to vote first 24 hours of the day, as it gives me time to get stuff read, and avoid making bad calls. Also, since days usually start in the week, it gives me time to read while still doing the work thing. When I vote, I like to be able to place a case on the guy first, see how he responds. That said, I have been known to go against that policy - UOAT game, day three (I think) I jumped on Thane almost instantly, and almost got myself lynched (when me and AJ started going at each other hard), and did it once in the Real Genius game, and it turned out I had been led by scum...

 

 

 

What role counters Oracle??

 

[v]Chae[/v]

 
You were saying?
 
Tell me this is an exception. If so, why?
Tsukibana Mentor

Tsukibana

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@Despo - Never said you thought I was scum; said you didn't trust me (revisit some things, yada yada). True, right, you DON'T trust me :)

 

Out in the field, won't be back for about 6 hours.

Tsukibana Mentor

Tsukibana

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@ Pral, real quick - I consider the thunderdome an interupption of the previous day. Very little was contributed by those people during the dome, and during the night. An oracle flipped, and I think somehow Chae knew it, and (as turin said) at best was sowing breadcrumbs. Therefore, I am willing to continue "this" day as if thunderdome/night didn't really happen. Hope that makes sense, bout to leave.

Hallia Spam Master

Hallia

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What about the people hat hopped on Mynd without a thought?

 

It would've been the easiest thing for scum to d

Pralaya Master

Pralaya

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VOTE: Hallia

 

 

Case made yesterday. too much discrepancy between her statements of thinking both town and then flopping on Ithi while still believing Mynd. Looks like she did know was two townies. stayed with the losing side and asked if should save him or not. The entire claim thing was weird also. Oh since it doesn't really matter about characters how about you give us yours now. And your list too please.

 

Don't think Hallia is scum. A scum governor  is way too overpowered. I wouldn't expect it unless they have one less scum than normal or if there is a powerful vig. Her responses today have also been good. Yesterday's lynch, she was initially on Mynd and then shifted to Ithi and I think it was a genuine town thought process.

Hallia Spam Master

Hallia

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Vote Tina

 

That's something I can get behind!

 

Reason I changed on Thane was his willingness to come back and play the game.

Thane Vakarian Grand Master

Thane Vakarian

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So, yeah... i thought Des might come and go after me again. But if the main reason is that my claimed character is not likely to be VT because.... oh... wait.... didn't we have a thunderdome about that already? Didn't we lose a townie already because of that? I even agree that my general gameplay can be seen as scummy, it's the same in every game. But i can assure you, i'm not scum in this game.

 

i don't know if there are any LD's out there, but i will type: Thane is scum. Feel free to verify whenever you like.

 

Also, Chae could well be hiding behind me, trying to have more towncred for defending me. I do doubt that she is scum though. (Also, she will have to bail soon due to RL work issues :sad: )

 

Between Tina and Csarmi.... i dunno. I still have some doubts about Csarmi's miller claim, so either he or Tina are scum imo.

 

I agree that Len doesn't look too good recently.... Still need to recheck Turin if he's possible scum fishing for towncred while supporting Ithi... haven't made up my mind about that.

 

Ithi is still town to me, Hallia is town too, as is Des.

 

Tsuki: nobody trusts you... ever.... whichis good, we should all be a bit paranoid in a mafia game... null leaning town though.

 

as for  dice 2.0: need to reread X.. and welcome back into the game

Lenlo Spam Master

Lenlo

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You know what, no. I had this long diatribe made to tear apart that "list", but im not gonna. Not this time. Im just gonna say that is not a list, those are comments with nothing substantial in there at all, only 2 LDable statements and shots back at the thunderdome which you missed/ignored most of. The ones about "Thane is Scum" ((Odd choice most would pick "I am Town" but alright.)) and "Hallia is town.". The others dont work because they are are "This person is town to me." or "And so is [blank]" or they are "null to [blank]".

 

So please do your reread soon, catchup and post an /actual/ list if your going to at all. Because that one? That one hurts to read.

Niniel Spam Master

Niniel

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I was indeed fencesitting yesterday and I tried to show my thoughts on why I didn´t know who to vote. I´m not going to pretend being certain when I´m not. 

 

I need to re-read some but here is my list in the meantime. 

 

1. Thrax Dice 2.0  is town. *
2. Len is mafia.
3. Mynd Wiggins, Town 1-shot Gladiator, lynched D1
4. Dawn NotBob is town.
5. Tina is town.
6. Turin is town.
7. Despo is town. 
8. Hally is town.
9. Chae is mafia.
10. Ithi is town. 
11. Thane is mafia.
12. Tsuki is mafia. 
13. Dice Toby the Dog, Town 2-shot Oracle, killed N1
14. Charis/BFG is town. *
15. Pral is town. *
16. Salami  is town. 

 

* Is people that I don´t have a feeling about right now and need to look up. 

 

I will be back as soon as I can. This week has been very hectic and tomorrow it´s Midsummer but I will try my best. 

Hayl3y Spam Master

Hayl3y

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Oh it seems that people have missed me lol

 

well be reassured i am back but maybe not for long: i need to see how much work i will have during the week end and maybe i'll need to be replaced.

 

I would like to thank some of you for thinking that i am that devious ... about that oracle thingy. But I have no intention on claiming that role for me nor for Thane, and i think he says the truth when he says he's a VT. I asked a general question, like i was advised to do by my mentor in another game. YES I confess it... i never go on mafia wikis :laugh:

 

Now, my LD list

 

Xtrax replaced by Dice is town

Len is mafia [v] Len [/v] because i am that woolheaded lol (see i show u some love) :wink:

Mynd was town, my bad

Turin is mafia

Tina is town

Despo is mafia

Hallia is town

Chae is town

Ithi is town

Thane is town

Tsuki is mafia

Dice was town, like i thought

BFG is town

Pral is town

Csarmi is town

 

 

now tsuki, could you make reads about everybody

i'd looooove to read that

Hayl3y Spam Master

Hayl3y

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lol !

 

well there's the fact that, dear fellow townies, my action got blocked that night and i wake up seeing two votes on me

which i found very suspicious

 

 

now i will elaborate,...  later ?

i'm eating ice cream:3

Tsukibana Mentor

Tsukibana

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@Chae - Umm, yeah, I DID post a list with reads. Skim much? Think I did it two posts after I voted for you. Go look, I will wait.

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