[DPR Mafia] Vampire Hunter 6 - Game Thread

[Ithillian Turambar]

Congratulations guys. I was not playing, but even just watching - found this the most entertaining game of Mafia I have EVER seen.

 

Nicely done DPR. Excellent work Vamps.

[John McClane]

I was town, and had no help with JLM, Blackhoof, Verbal or Nolder. I caught them the old fashioned way.

 

I knew the minute Lily was converted and that is when they decided to convert me.

 

I obviously did the math this morning, banked on Motlee spending at least 1-2 vote points on a power, and fibbed a little ;) about the LD result on her, figuring I could get at least 1 townie to vote her plus my vote, Berfs and Lilys.

 

Voila. I think Berfs decision to kill Christine was huge in endgame because it allowed me to manufacture a scenario where I could debunk any LD results from Tina, Motlee, Song or anyone else... making it possible for me to position myself as having the only LD left in the game.

 

Being devious is so much fun, fun, fun.... :)

[mottlee]

good game guys

[DPR]

I'll post setup and thoughts when I get back to my home computer...

[amegakure]

Wow john when did u get converted was it when u went silent

[John McClane]

Wow john when did u get converted was it when u went silent

 

I was town right through the Nolder lynch. That first day where I was silent, it was legit because I wanted to spend time with my girl and not online. I've been modding a game as complex as this one on JetNation based on Battlestar, and I'd put a ton of time into this one too... that's a lot of mafia, so I needed to spoil my lady a bit.

 

I think they converted me the real life day after that, and my silence kept up only because I was tied up with work. I don't usually change my play style at all when I'm scum, but in this case RL forced me to, coincidentally.

 

Basically, I knew the minute they turned Lily - and Lily wanted me on her team and off her back. I legitimately sniffed out 5 scum this game old fashioned scum-hunting. :)

[Niniel]

I knew it!!! *insert many bad words that are not PG-13*

 

Great game and congratulation vampires! I haven´t been this paranoid in any other game.

[LilyElizabeth]

That was an excellent game. Thanks DPR!

 

I got converted immediately after being confirmed, and we did the same with John. We were both really pissed because we were having such good town games. But it all worked out all right in the end. I went silent because I hadn't said that I was town and didn't want to have to. (Well, that and stuff that was going on with me....)

[DPR]

Setup:

 

Team Moscow - JohnMclane, Lily, ConQuest

 

Team Moscow #2 - Christina, Amegakure, TinaHel

 

Team New Orleans - Amadine, Red, JackD

 

Team Thailand - Leelou, Verbal, Song

 

Team Paris - Mottlee, Minuet, Sakaea

 

Team Australia - Alanna, Keyholder, Locke (replaced by Wombat)

 

Vamps - Team Saudi Arabia - JLM, 4Berfs, Blackhoof, Nolder

 

Werewolf King - Vambram

 

***

 

You already know that the only roles n the game were purchased. - The idea behind this was to really get folks to think about the potential uses of the roles (as opposed to getting a role at gamestart, and just phoning-it-in instead of being creative with it).

 

Some roles were rigged. The Cult Leader was only available to Vambram, though I would have taken anyone's money for it...he did buy it during Hour 1 without any prompting form me. Smart player.

 

The Hour system that never stopped was intended to avoid the lull that Nights usually bring. I like action in the games.

 

I'll be back...

[Christine]

Gah! You killed me! Grrr!

 

 

Good game though. I knew to suspect Berf, butcha know...

[WWWwombat]

I think I would've had berf had the vamps not killed me. I was a voyeur as well as an oracle and knew someone had tried to shoot John. Then I got a really clutch Forensic Investigator result by chance showing who had targeted John since the beginning of the game. I was in the process of outing berf as targeting John the same hour that someone attempted to kill him when DPR posted my death scene.

[WWWwombat]

Also, I had a pretty strong suspicion when it was happening that John's final LD result was a LyLo false claim.

[Christine]

This was why I wanted to LD berf. For some reason, something about him smelled suspicious. Good game played by him though.

[Nolder]

my thoughts

 

this was probably the most fun I've had in a game of mafia

thank you to DPR for making it and all of you for playing with me

 

for anyone interested I bought the Enhancer role and was enhancing Ineedfourberfs pretty much the entire game

 

there were a few things that kept us vampires all but convinced we were going to lose

first and foremost being that we were all team saudi arabia

that really came back to bite us and I think if there had been a couple more cops roaming around it would have done us in quick

 

losing JLM and verbal before he even had a chance to actually join us both at the same time was a pretty big demoralizer

then of course john was constantly on my case and ineedfourberfs was mentioned every now and again

lily was convinced john knew she was scum and was going to have conquest test her

and THEN on top of all that we suddenly had werewolves to deal with

and after I died a watcher had ineedfourberfs visiting someone who died iirc

 

yeah very stressful game

I honestly think it was the vigilante role combined with the enhancer role that kept us in the game

being able to kill someone when we NEEDED them dead was invaluable

[JenLenaMom]

Great game Vamps!! I'm so glad you guys pulled it out after we lost so many in the first few days.

 

Verbal I'm sorry again I got you killed.

[Blackhoof]

Wow, we ACTUALLY won! I bought the absorbed role and absorbed lily cop role pretty early. O found that Wombat wad team Australia and then I bought bomb when I knew I was doomed. I had planned to reveal my bombness and become near-invulnerable but key hammered me first :P

[Vambram]

my thoughts

 

this was probably the most fun I've had in a game of mafia

thank you to DPR for making it and all of you for playing with me

 

for anyone interested I bought the Enhancer role and was enhancing Ineedfourberfs pretty much the entire game

 

there were a few things that kept us vampires all but convinced we were going to lose

first and foremost being that we were all team saudi arabia

that really came back to bite us and I think if there had been a couple more cops roaming around it would have done us in quick

 

losing JLM and verbal before he even had a chance to actually join us both at the same time was a pretty big demoralizer

then of course john was constantly on my case and ineedfourberfs was mentioned every now and again

lily was convinced john knew she was scum and was going to have conquest test her

and THEN on top of all that we suddenly had werewolves to deal with

and after I died a watcher had ineedfourberfs visiting someone who died iirc

 

yeah very stressful game

I honestly think it was the vigilante role combined with the enhancer role that kept us in the game

being able to kill someone when we NEEDED them dead was invaluable

 

 

I did have fun in the game, but I honestly believed that the game was going to last a couple of more real life days before it ended.

The vampires outplayed everyone else, and they deserve congrats for doing so.

Here are my thoughts, just in case anyone is interested in what I as a relative newbie in Mafia wants to say.

The enhancer role was one of the reason that the vampires were able to win this game. Another reason that the vampires were able to win was that they did not have to wait for a lynch to be over before doing their actions. Being able to kill two people each and every hour, sometimes during the middle of the process of people voting for a lynch was something that the Town and the Werewolves found virtually impossible to overcome. ineedfourberfs deserves credit for the deception he pulled over most of us, including me.

What I want to know, is which vampire was the Lead vampire who was able to convert Townies into vampires?

For the Town, did any of the players in the Town have an ability .. or role, to kill someone in the game without using a lynching to make that kill?

I have a few more thoughts I would like to add, but I will do so if anyone decides to comment on my post here.

 

 

 

 

[LilyElizabeth]

DPR will probably explain this better than I can, but we could kill or convert each round - not both. And we never knew ahead of time which we were getting.

 

Berfs bought the vig power, so he could kill also. Any of you could have done that, I guess.

 

And no, there was no specific vamp who had the kill or recruit power. It depended on a team consensus.

 

You guys have no idea how close we came to losing. Honestly, it was the recruit of John and then a couple of successful kills, that made the difference, and brought our numbers to a viable number. Prior to that, it was pretty tense on our end. I thought for sure we were going to lose at that point.

[Christine]

you killed me mistress. this shall not be forgiven.

[Vambram]

DPR will probably explain this better than I can, but we could kill or convert each round - not both. And we never knew ahead of time which we were getting.

 

Berfs bought the vig power, so he could kill also. Any of you could have done that, I guess.

 

And no, there was no specific vamp who had the kill or recruit power. It depended on a team consensus.

 

You guys have no idea how close we came to losing. Honestly, it was the recruit of John and then a couple of successful kills, that made the difference, and brought our numbers to a viable number. Prior to that, it was pretty tense on our end. I thought for sure we were going to lose at that point.

 

I should have re-read the thread before making my post.

Lily is correct, the vampires did not make a double kill each time. And yes, at one time in the game there were only a couple of them left, but that was not enough to defeat the vampires. What was unfortunate for the werewolves and also for the Town, was that none of us had the role power ability to make a kill without using a lynch to do so.

What placed the werewolves at a disadvantage was that when I recruited a player into the werewolf cult, they lost their role power which they had purchased. So, the werewolves were powerless to do any sort of killing of the vampires, or anything else to the vampires except to try to make cases against them to get the vampires lynched.

I did have fun playing this mafia game.

My only disappointment is that the ending was a little bit anti-climatic in my opinion, and that I believed that the Town still had a chance to win this game even after I sacrificed myself with that object. That sacrifice killed me, but it also changed Amadine back into a human, and back on the Town side. But, it turns out that I was wrong, and that the vampires had won for themselves the upper hand, so that with their advantages, the outplayed the rest of us players and won the game.

[LilyElizabeth]

you killed me mistress. this shall not be forgiven.

Actually, I didn't, sweetie. Berfs did that all by himself while I was sleeping. If/when you read our QT, you will see that I said I wouldn't have killed you.

[Christine]

Oh! Ok then! As long as my mentor did not kill me!

[John McClane]

Oh! Ok then! As long as my mentor did not kill me!

 

Nope, Berf can take all the credit for killing you - I was apprehensive about you as a target at that point, but the kill on you ended up being the lynchpin to the scenario I used in endgame to articulate a sequence of events that made motlee, tina and song look like scummers... I knew this, plus my LD "result" would be enough to get us one vote from a townie, and then I was banking on all 3 of us voting motlee... making 4 votes... and I gambled that motlee had at least purchased one 1-pt role... which would have been the lynch.

 

Lily made the right call in recruiting me. I would not have left her alone, I knew she was scum... and Berfs pinged me with a comment he made right after Nolder died. As soon as I got the PM from DPR, I expected to see both of them in the vamp QT.

[Nolder]

@vam: it was really the enhancer role that made the difference

the vig role basically ensured we could kill the right people at the right time but I think the enhancer (enabling 2 vig kills) was what really started evening up the numbers

that and some smart converts

without lily and john I'm not sure vamps would have been able to pull it off

[Christine]

Well, I am glad to know my death was so important!