[Advanced] Monty Python and the Holy Grail Mafia (Game Over)

[Graendals favourite]

And unless we reach a good majority in, what 24h, the vote will be practically random or perhaps mafia controlled.

[Minuet]

  On 6/9/2011 at 6:34 PM, Minuet said:

I only voted for Wombat as a joke.

 

 

So, what is the air speed velocity of a laden swallow?

 

The above post was added when someone mentioned a bandwagon forming on Wombat. So, I was answering someone. You have the above quote in your case Red, but you failed to have the below post where I actually unvoted after that comment.

 

  On 6/9/2011 at 7:51 PM, Minuet said:

I'm not dead yet. I think I will go for a walk.

 

 

Oh, European swallows.

 

Where are Robin's minstrels? We shall eat them when it turns winter.

 

Wombat you so need to see the movie. All of you who haven't seen it should. It will have you laughing for days. I just voted for you as a joke, don't want to lynch you over something silly.

 

Unvote

 

 

After I unvoted yes the unvote bandwagon started. I stated it was a joke first to see if anyone who was on the bandwagon would unvote. That bandwagon didn't start till after I unvoted.

 

  On 6/10/2011 at 9:28 PM, alannalynn said:

  On 6/9/2011 at 2:50 PM, Alanna said:

Wow, it was funny the first time, but four people vote him for not seeing the movie?

 

  On 6/9/2011 at 3:52 AM, WWWwombat said:

I have a confession to make. I never saw the source material.

 

I've only seen parts of it here and there.

Reading back and catching up really quick, and I have to agree with Alanna here. Minuet sticks out to me most for her vote, and even though nobody was really making it THAT big of a deal that there was a bandwagon on Womby, Min unvotes here:

 

  On 6/9/2011 at 6:34 PM, Minuet said:

I only voted for Wombat as a joke.

 

So, what is the air speed velocity of a laden swallow?

Yeah, I think everyone voted him as a joke, but it was four jumping on the bandwagon because he hadn't seen the source material (trench doesn't count).

 

  On 6/9/2011 at 9:31 PM, WWWwombat said:

Interesting.

Agreed.

 

Also weird is some people just unvoting randomly, even those not on the Wombat train. Why, if I may ask? Hell, why even unvote Wombat if it was just a joke and nothing to be worried about? ...Right? Clearly, if you are town, and joke voted him, you have absolutely nothing to worry about, like him being lynched, being that town are the majority. At least, one would think. I would wager at least one on the aforementioned Wombat-Four is mafia.

 

"What is your name?" Alanna BoBanna of the Bannas

"What is your quest?" To seek the holy grail.

"What is your favorite color?" Blue... no green.

 

Arg.

 

 

  On 6/11/2011 at 5:13 AM, Minuet said:

I unvoted Wombat because of the bandwagon forming. I didn't want to be responsible for a possible lynch being formed on him as a joke. No one would want to do that.

 

I posted this in response to AJ's post. So, you took what I said out of context. It didn't come out of no pressure as you claim below.

 

  On 6/16/2011 at 2:16 PM, Red2111 said:

 

First I shall case to comment on the Wombat Wagon we have lurking on the surface. I have yet to see anything scummy from him, in fact he has not pinged me at all. Yet we have GF professing him to be her best option without listing the reason for this accusation. Woman, calling someone a witch is a serious accusation of one you have yet to present proof. Smells a bit like vote distancing to me and trying to ride the coat tails of a faulty lynch.

 

 

 

Yet for the Wombat lynch, GF is the last of those who disserve comment. Tis more fruitful to look at those who used “joke” reason to jump on his lynch then bailed at the first cite of a duck. Min, Charis, & Trench come to mind. I’ll get to these in my quote-feast right now.

 

 

 

  On 6/9/2011 at 12:24 PM, Charis alAslan said:

TinaHel, I dont know you either, but for voting for me, I give you a kiss! *kiss-kiss* Oh wait... it's not a vote for Presidency? >_> You know I almost wanted to vote you back as an OMGUS vote, HOWEVER, Wombat bringing to light this startling revelation about not having ever seen the film... well, that's just grounds for execution! Off with his head!!

 

Vote WOMBAT

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Here to me is the most scummy of the Wombat votes. This put him at about 4^th or 5^th which is near the tipping point. Again, the only reason used for voting on Wombat and piling on the votes is the lack of his seeing the source material. Never in my history of playing one of these games have I seen lack of knowing the source material being a concrete reason for lynching someone; yet suddenly this is the case for Wombat.

 

 

 

  On 6/9/2011 at 6:34 PM, Minuet said:

I only voted for Wombat as a joke.

 

 

 

Here Min starts acting scummy. There was no pressure on her for her vote on Wombat that I found yet she volunteers this information as if there was. It came out of left field and smells like maneuvering to me or subtle distancing of the lynch and allowing herself an easy way to jump off the lynch.

 

 

 

 

 

  On 6/11/2011 at 5:13 AM, Minuet said:

I unvoted Wombat because of the bandwagon forming. I didn't want to be responsible for a possible lynch being formed on him as a joke. No one would want to do that.

 

 

 

 

 

And here, soon after the above quote Min unvotes Wombat and feels the need to explain why she unvoted him. Again, without any pressure to do so. I had commented on this before now and even after my re-read this still sticks out to me.

 

 

 

Following Min’s unvote, Trench & Charis bail off his vote as well; which stices me odd and why I point to those three for being the best possible option for scum on Womby’s lynch.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So, I am wondering why you are trying to make such a claim against me. Honestly it feels a bit inky to me. Especially when you don't take in account the posts that I was responding to. If you are going to claim a case on someone take in account the posts they may be responding to. I hate the quote button. So, I will just make statements when someone says something. I rarely use the quote button. This all makes me wonder what kind of traps you are up to. You have made a case against several of us. You point in all this is maybe to get people off of your trail? You then scoff off everyone's claims on you. I am keeping my vote where it is, but you are on my list of possible scum. It wasn't till your multi-post trying to frame others and making a joke of everyone's questions they asked about you.

[Niniel]

There was a coconut, a witch and a horse. The witch threw the coconut in the water and it sank... Oh, we have moved away from the silliness? Ehm...

 

I think it´s strange to critic Red for trying to make some cases. Day 1 doesn´t always give facts for day 1 but later on in the game it can be useful and that is something we all know.

 

I have some suspects on my list but since Blackhoof is one of them I will keep my vote on him a little longer. If my vote is needed for a controlled lynch on another player I will consider that.

 

There are some people that are quiet (like I have been, sorry for that) and some that are just posting fillers. I have noticed JLM´s posts. Joke, joke, filler, filler, joke... I think she mentioned somewhere that she now should try to be serious but I haven´t seen anything concrete after that. It´s nothing to base a vote on but something to remember as we move along.

[Minuet]

I criticized her not using all my posts. Just taking things out of context. To me building a case on someone involves all the information and not just what you want to pick from.

[Moon Sedai]

WOah- I spend a day off of Mafia and come back to a LOT...

 

UNVOTE

Vote Blackhoof

 

I realise this might sound like a bandwagon, or a response to a previous vote against myself.

I actually think Trench is making a good case for Blackhoof.

He pointed out his long history of suspicious acting.

[trench]

  On 6/16/2011 at 2:41 PM, Red2111 said:

  On 6/16/2011 at 1:26 PM, trench said:

Red I was wondering if you could clarify whether or not you are operating under a Post Restriction or just having fun? Either is cool I am just a bit confused.

 

Nay sir, I say NAY!! I can not and/or will not confirm or deny the existence of said PR or whether I’m by chance having fun, or if I may perhaps be role playing or whether I’m just trying a new posting style.

 

It is too soon in this fair game to reveal such information for sure and said information really has no bearing on the game nor on our catching scum. in fact, that you wish to focus on this with the dead line looming rather than finding scum and looking at those who all agree are scummy does not speak well for you and speaks greatly of a distraction attempt.

 

I bid you to consult the shrubbery instead good sir!

 

 

Red - playing Mafia since 2009

 

*trench goes around scooping up the mess Red's horse keeps making*

 

I had no intentions of distracting the group. My intent was to help clariy your actions. I have not been the first to question it, but the first to point blank ask you about them. Your decision to not answer does not help the town. If I had switched my vote on to you, that would have been a distraction or if I had come up with another case at the last minute. My intention was only to answer a question most of us have asked ourselves. Thats not distracting that is trying to eliminate question marks.

 

Also I have been asking this fern outside to answer my questions for hours now. Is there a certain species of shrubbey I should ask?

[sVieira151]

  On 6/16/2011 at 2:34 PM, Red2111 said:

*Red reigns in her horse hard, causing him to rear back on it’s hind leggs*

  On 6/15/2011 at 8:23 PM, Vieira151 said:

We have Red and her suggestion of No-Lynch. There was nothing scummy about the suggestion(though I don't think a No-Lynch should be used) in my eyes. However, the fact she came out not long after and revealed her 'ploy' wasn't a particularly good move. She should have waited for longer, to see how many others 'fell' for it. The people who voted Red for this are mildly suspicious in my eyes. This move also makes me wary of Red - it could be a move by scum to frame innocents for the lynch.

 

I sprung my trap because it was meant to be short lived. There are 3 separate events happening to give us enough info for a controlled lynch and lots of info without allowing the Scum to use the No-Lynch argument to side rail any trails on one of their team mates

 

Half of the players (or atleast the most active so far) had commented about the No-Lynch; I got enough reactions for me to judge from (to include those who didn’t react when before they have reacted) to get a good judge on how well my test worked. It’s also given the town info, which was the aim. It’s lived it’s usefulness for me, so I pull it before the tool can be turned against us by the scum.

 

Why should I have waited longer in this case.

 

 

 

Red - making solid cases and catching scum since 2009

 

Well, I would have waited a bit longer. Though that is just a personal preferance. You ploy did achieve some results and got us some information. Which is always helpful for later in the game, if not day 1. How would the scum be able to use it against us if you waited longer, may I ask?

 

And I've noticed EVERY single one of your posts include a wee *Red does this* thing which is related to either horses or galloping. I feel this could be a role thing, but I don't see it as an evil role. So in my eyes, you are cleared. For the moment.

 

Also, I would like to hear more from Nyn, Tiinker, leelou, bg and dapianoplay3r. They haven't contributed much or haven't been active. I only noticed 2 posts by bg, so for the moment my vote is on him. Vote bg.

[Sedai]

UNVOTE and vote hoof

 

One word, five syllables, con-soll-I-da-tion

[Sakaea]

I agree with Vieira, the people who haven't posted much so far need to contribute.

And I am going to UNVOTE my joke vote, and I will re-vote tomorrow, when I decide who is a witch.

 

Cheers

[keyholder21]

  On 6/17/2011 at 3:11 AM, Jack_D said:

UNVOTE and vote hoof

 

One word, five syllables, con-sol-I-da-tion

 

Fair enough. Unvote, vote Blackhoof.

[Sakaea]

Hey, Hoofie, I have these scales...and a duck...shall we see who weighs more?

[Blackhoof]

indeed we shall, sakky.

 

 

ooh, a lynch is forming. interesting....

 

well, i would rather you did not lynch me, as it would be detrimental to the town. because.... i have a power role. not a massively good one, but a power role all the same. it seems fun, so please do not lynch me until i have been able to use it.

 

 

Blackhoof - revealing he has a role since 1995

[Minuet]

Okay, since there is more information now, I will change my vote. However, if he isn't mafia I will feel bad for changing my vote as I truly believe Moon is scum.

 

 

Oh, Mod God can we have an official vote count please?

 

 

unvote vote Blackhoof

[Christine]

Ugh.... I fear there isn't enough to incriminate Blackhoof, and he says he has a power role.... But the votes are sliding that way. Gah! Given that I don't know if I will be back online before the hammer falls and I don't want us to just miss the deadline....

 

 

Vote Blackhoof

[Graendals favourite]

Oh well, unvote vote Blackhoof. This will be a useful thing to know, as he has been going here and there, and I'm glad to help ensure the vote isn't totally random. It would be good to pressure those who haven't participated much more, but lynching one of them would give us very little information at this point, should whoever might be lynched be town.

[Sedai]

FoS Christine.

 

What type of role Hoof, it might save you.

 

Any healing or finding role is considered power roles. Everything else is just roles IMO

[Charis alAslan]

  On 6/16/2011 at 3:29 PM, Red2111 said:

*Red brisltes and canters her horse closer to Charis*

 

  On 6/16/2011 at 3:19 PM, Charis alAslan said:

I personally think any casing on the first day is ridiculous since we're all checking in and accusing each other for fun. If you've noticed I havent made any case against Wombat and did unvote him because he was a Day One Fake Vote - as are the many that occur on Day One due to having no info whatsoever. Red, I think you're trying way to hard to throw off suspicion and look for a witch where there is none. Bad Red. I was looking at Jack_D for my vote, but you've just jumped the line.

 

oye vey, be truthfull and call it what it is Charis, and OMGUS.

 

How is my vote on you an "OMGUS"? Are you voting for me, Red? I truly believe you exist to cause confusion, either through this PR or perhaps your own RPing. Or because you are truly scummy scum.

 

  On 6/16/2011 at 3:38 PM, Jack_D said:

You think day 1 cases are ridiculous and you want to lynch me because I want to get day 1 nonsense over? Contradiction I have uncovered thee

 

  On 6/16/2011 at 3:19 PM, Charis alAslan said:

I personally think any casing on the first day is ridiculous since we're all checking in and accusing each other for fun.

 

 

There is no contradiction here. Just because I think casing on Day One isnt very useful, it has nothing to do with your suspicious behavior regarding wanting to speed up the day. I dont care how long Day One lasts. I am not rushing to Night One because I for one am afraid of what the scum will do in the Night. Clearly, you are not. Therefore your actions wreak of scum. You, too, are trying hard to point a FoS on me when it should be on you. Perhaps you and Red are on the same team?

 

However, since everyone seems to be voting Hoof and we need a vote by today, and knowing I wont be on again til much later, I will cast my vote in his direction. But, Red/Jack... I think this is a pairing we need to watch.

 

UNVOTE (just to be clear, even though I did it already)

VOTE BLACKHOOF

[Sedai]

@ Charis, you should know what the mafia is going to do. They're going to kill a player. If there is a SK they are going to kill a player, if there is a trigger happy vig then they are going to kill a player. Possibly multiple people will get NK. That's nothing new. Your overly trying to sound townie. That is a major scum tell to me

[Moon Sedai]

What Charis Said:

  On 6/17/2011 at 12:34 PM, Charis alAslan said:

I am not rushing to Night One because I for one am afraid of what the scum will do in the Night. Clearly, you are not. Therefore your actions wreak of scum. You, too, are trying hard to point a FoS on me when it should be on you. Perhaps you and Red are on the same team?

Jack's response

  On 6/17/2011 at 12:56 PM, Jack_D said:

@ Charis, you should know what the mafia is going to do. They're going to kill a player. If there is a SK they are going to kill a player, if there is a trigger happy vig then they are going to kill a player. Possibly multiple people will get NK. That's nothing new. Your overly trying to sound townie. That is a major scum tell to me

 

Jack, I'm confused by your statement here.

We know Mafia will kill people in the night, as will Vigs or SKs if there are any. We know that Night Actions can be deadly.

Your statements as such are kinda jerky. Charis knows that nks are part of the game, she is just afraid that Mafia scum are gonna target her for Night One because she's been working a case against you and Red.

Of course, now that i've said that, you and Red won't NK Charis, because it would put a stronger FOS at you.

Scum.

I'd change my vote, but I still strongly think Hoofy is Scum.

[Christine]

Hmmm FoS on me because I wanted to make sure my vote got counted and I would rather it be a controlled lynch than a random.org lynch?

[Tiinker]

I've been here following the thread don't worry but with all the randomness I just felt like me commenting would've just passed everyone by anyway.

 

But yeah, that was a pretty weak reveal. You can't expect to just say you've got a power role and then expect not to be lynched. I'll vote later since we've still got a few hours so hopefully Blackhoof will reappear and give us a bit more detail.

 

BH is at L-3 I think right now. Pressure enough :p

[Sedai]

  On 6/17/2011 at 1:41 PM, Ahmoondah Sedai said:

What Charis Said:

  On 6/17/2011 at 12:34 PM, Charis alAslan said:

I am not rushing to Night One because I for one am afraid of what the scum will do in the Night. Clearly, you are not. Therefore your actions wreak of scum. You, too, are trying hard to point a FoS on me when it should be on you. Perhaps you and Red are on the same team?

Jack's response

  On 6/17/2011 at 12:56 PM, Jack_D said:

@ Charis, you should know what the mafia is going to do. They're going to kill a player. If there is a SK they are going to kill a player, if there is a trigger happy vig then they are going to kill a player. Possibly multiple people will get NK. That's nothing new. Your overly trying to sound townie. That is a major scum tell to me

 

Jack, I'm confused by your statement here.

We know Mafia will kill people in the night, as will Vigs or SKs if there are any. We know that Night Actions can be deadly.

Your statements as such are kinda jerky. Charis knows that nks are part of the game, she is just afraid that Mafia scum are gonna target her for Night One because she's been working a case against you and Red.

Of course, now that i've said that, you and Red won't NK Charis, because it would put a stronger FOS at you.

Scum.

I'd change my vote, but I still strongly think Hoofy is Scum.

 

That's the whole point of a WIFOM if I were mafia I'd probably nk Charis. Then if people looked at me I'd say it's so obvious it couldn't be me. Then you would have to wonder if the Wine in front if you is poisoned.

 

Charis's line about being scared of what will happen at bight seems scummy to me. I wasn't try to sound like a jerk just stating that one it more people will die. Wanting day 1 to be over and done with so we can actually break down the game more and more and really scum hunt doesn't make me scum. I want nonsense to be over and the game to be played. Just saying.

[Sakaea]

Give us more on what your role is, Hoofie. That is prob the only thing that is gonna save you right now.

[Krakalakachkn]

Vote Count

 

 

Wombat (1): BG

 

Blackhoof (10): Tina, berf, trench, moon, jack, key, min, christine, gf, Charis

 

leelou (1): Tiinker

 

Sakaea (1): AJ

 

Moon (2): csarmi, Wombat

 

Min (1): Blackhoof

 

bg (1): Vieira

 

 

With 25 alive it takes 13 to lynch

 

not voting: Killuliu, Nyn, Player, JLM, leelou, Red, Alanna, Sakaea

[JenLenaMom]

Since we are rapidly coming up on deadline and hoofie still hasn't come back to offer further on this half reveal Blackhoof