Wheel of Time Mafia Game Thread

[aemonkristen]

Grrr. Missed it by 5 minutes. Continuing with the game...

 

Where do we stand on who to pressure/lynch? For pressure I recommend Aust, for lynch I recommend BG.

[Quibby]

Things that I didn't notice on the slow path through the thread:

-David agreeing with me. Should have noticed sooner. Would have led to lynch sooner.

-At times, Verbal seems to be chastising David for being too scummy instead of jumping all over his actions. This changes later in the day. Probably nothing.

-"Denounce yourself and gain my trust." Great line. Almost kills your credibility in one post, though, bgrishinko.

-Blackhoof disappears for several pages, then comes back in, guns blazing, for a proclaimed Dragon (false or not) on Day 1.

-I still hate these pages and pages of Aemon vs. Red.

-Sudden revelation: Logain could see ta'veren. Could that be used as a Finder device? If so, does that make Aemon a False Dragon, but the good guy False Dragon (as opposed to Taim, the scumbag Falsie)?

-By page 21, one player stands out.

-Reread threads always make me sound like Rorschach. Must investigate further. Hurm.

 

Due to his insistence on gunning for, first, the proclaimed Dragon (who I'm becoming more and more convinced is actually Logain), and then the near-revealed possible-Moiraine, before settling into the bandwagon on David, I am going to vote Blackhoof.

[dapianoplay3r]

The names I got who visited Red last night are Aust, Ed, Player, and Kwom Masbag.

 

 

The names I got who visited Red last night are Aust, Ed, Player, and Kwom Masbag.

 

Hmm. Not who I targetted...

 

 

*grumbles about his item being stolen*

 

I must say too that I believe Song but I didnt send in Red as my Night Action

[aemonkristen]

There seem to be a large number of redirected people. That seems off even in a game this big.

[dapianoplay3r]

It could be that we both chose the same person and they are like a deflector or something (is that even a role or did i make it up)

[aemonkristen]

Deflector is definitely a role. I have used it in my games and seen it used in others. So we have at least 3 people claiming misdirection/deflection: Quibby got bounced to me and Piano and Ed got bounced from unknown targets to Red. That indicates, to me, at least two deflecting powers as not everyone got shunted over to Red.

[dapianoplay3r]

I wasnt told my the mod that I got deflected. I just got a failed action on who I chose. That makes me question how the deflector on me worked.

[Red2111]

out of the 4, Ed & Piano are standing out most to me. i agree that that is a large number of people to be re-directed.  a mirror type role does make sense, a mirror that deflects the NA onto a different person, not back onto the caster.   question then is, why did the mirror role choose to redirect any actions that target them back at me?

 

Quibby your now lower on my list.  when Wombat claimed the cat had his tongue, i suspected a re-direct but didn't want to say this on thread.  Aemon coming out saying  what he said, and you basically confirming hes right actually gives more credit to your story, and grudingly his.  i'll buy the Aemon is Logain angle until i see other scummy behavior from him.  neither of you are cleared, but are now lower on my list of suspects.  

 

 

 

aust care to explain why you've been on today yet have ignored this thread, especailly since you've been FOSd friend.  your silence is looking very scummy dude.

 

 

 

 

Besides, the healer (or possibly A healer, in a game this big) wasn't on that list. I stole the VORA SA'ANGREAL yesterday. I just now looked it up and found out that it was the sa'angreal used to heal Matt in the White Tower. It prevents roleblocking and severing unless the other person has a more powerful sa'angreal. Needless to say, it is useless to me. I have already sent in a PM to gift it to someone I believe walks in the light. If they cannot use it I hope they will do the same.

i'd like my angreal back if you please.  the Amyrilin would be highly upset with me if i  returned back to the tower without it; there are so few of them left after all.  it would be useless to you, males cant use it lmao

 

 

 

To be honest, it just seemed odd to me that she picked out one name to share and held back the rest, hence me asking her about it. Whether or not her revealing the names was a good idea.... I'm not sure. But I think Song made a good point about her sharing the information in the case of her not making it through the night. Trying to keep things from the baddies is all good and well but if we keep them from us as well, we won't get anywhere.

 

i would have done the same as her, listing one name at a time.  had she listed all of the names at once, we may have never found that Quibby had targetted me yet not shown up.  one reason i had hoped for her to keep the names secret a little longer was to see how many more claimed targetting me to "clear" themselves.   townies & scum woudl have jumped at it and this woudl have given us alot more info than Song listing the names by themselves

 

 

 

It sounds to me like a redirector targeted Red and Aemon, hoping to move the NK from Red to Aemon, maybe "protecting her in my own way?"

 

this actually makes sense, and i get who your hinting at as well.   thing is, why was Quibby's role targetted and not any other; especially since most agree that i was most liekly targetted for the 2nd NK.

 

 

 

[dapianoplay3r]

Until Song made her post I had no idea that had happened to me. I wasnt sure how to even mention it and then on the catch up I saw Ed had the same problem. I only believe Song because she said 4 people who had NAs and wasnt just picking names out of a hat per say.

How would me targeting someone else make it hit you if they were trying to deflect stuff off you onto aemon. Thats the problem I have with the theory.

Maybe tonight Ill see what happens and if I get deflected again its someone targeting me and not Red.

 

Why are you most suspicious of me and Ed?

[Quibby]

I'm not sure what I think of the Logain angle yet, either. It makes a strange sense to me, but not enough that I completely buy it myself. However, I won't be voting for Aemon in the near future because two of the three options that I consider possible mean we're killing a townie.

[aemonkristen]

 

 

Besides, the healer (or possibly A healer, in a game this big) wasn't on that list. I stole the VORA SA'ANGREAL yesterday. I just now looked it up and found out that it was the sa'angreal used to heal Matt in the White Tower. It prevents roleblocking and severing unless the other person has a more powerful sa'angreal. Needless to say, it is useless to me. I have already sent in a PM to gift it to someone I believe walks in the light. If they cannot use it I hope they will do the same.

 

i'd like my angreal back if you please.  the Amyrilin would be highly upset with me if i  returned back to the tower without it; there are so few of them left after all.  it would be useless to you, males cant use it lmao

 

I guess I found out who got your item, Red, cause I didn't target you for my thief play.

[bgrishinko]

Just a random thought, could it be there is an item with some sort of power to attract all kinds of NA to one chosen person?

[Kwom Masbag]

To be honest BG, that sounds completely unlikely. Not only would that involve Red getting an item after having hers taken away, but that would also presume that she would hold onto said item. *shakes head* No, that doesn't sound very probable to me at all... Much more likely what Red and Drew mentioned.

[Amadine]

This thread is making my head hurt LOL

 

I can see why BG is suspicious and i agree with what Key posted in her casing a couple of pages ago, he's been posting strangly since the beginning of the game, i don't want to say it but is it possible there's a jester in play?

 

I have a strange feeling about my brother... Ed is playing like town but... that doesn't feel right either. He said in one post "i can't lie" inferring he is an Aes Sedai but i'm just not getting a town feel for him at this time, sorry bro

 

Quibby is acting strangely, and is pinging a bit, but then i have never played a game with him before so i am reserving my vote for a bit longer.

[bgrishinko]

To be honest BG, that sounds completely unlikely. Not only would that involve Red getting an item after having hers taken away, but that would also presume that she would hold onto said item. *shakes head* No, that doesn't sound very probable to me at all... Much more likely what Red and Drew mentioned.

 

Fair enough. What if it was an item or power that another person could direct at Red though? i.e. I use my item/power on Red which causes Red to receive the actions making Red unaware of what happened.

 

That's probably not likely either though. Just wasn't sure what kind of items exist in these Mafia games since the tutorial wiki doesn't talk about items so much.

[Blackhoof]

Hmmm.... figuring out this 'night-action chaos' is vital, i think. I am seeing scum action behind this..... as we all know, chaos = scum. Whever is deliberately adding to this confusion is a likely candidate for scum, i would think.

[bgrishinko]

Hmmm.... figuring out this 'night-action chaos' is vital, i think. I am seeing scum action behind this..... as we all know, chaos = scum. Whever is deliberately adding to this confusion is a likely candidate for scum, i would think.

 

Who would you suggest is adding in a non-helpful way?

[Adella]

Apologize for my silence, a sleepless past two days, I'm back... ish. If this all sounds like a madwoman gone madder, ignore it... I'll go sleep soon.

 

VOTE QUIBBY before my head explodes.

 

- Beginning of the day you were insisting on bringing the Red/Aemon argument back and rolling again, trying to distract everyone with a useless circle of an argument?

 

- Your joke vote on Adella. Really? It's Day freaking 2, and there's plenty of information to go off of without joke voting someone

- But THEN!!!!! You retract your vote from Adella because what? Did you suddenly come to the conclusion that Day 2 joke votes were not good for business? Was this your thinking or someone elses? What's going on here babe?

 

- Then you visited Red last night? Guilty conscious? You say you sent her a message... why would someone block your action? I don't see the logic there at all.. unless you're invisible to people at nighttime, that is.

 

You're becoming suspicious-er and more so by the minute and I'd LOVE to hear a defense from you. I should go back and check out your Day One but for now my vote stays on you.

 

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Also, agreed on BG's scumminess, and agreed on those pushing for the names, seems like you're trying to figure out who potentially blocked/countered your action last night? Fishy-much?

 

Minor ping on the Kwom votes at day break.. how sure were you that Song knew something Aemon and Mynd? (BTW, that's three votes, Song)

 

 

So I fully agree with the bolded parts.

1) There is really no excuse to make a joke vote anymore. So much happened on day 1 and already on day 2 that it looks insane to just ignore it all and make a joke with votes.

 

2) I thought this too actually. We don't often see retractions like that unless someone tells you how suspicious you look and that you should backpedal before it's too late. However, it is indeed too late to take it back.

 

3) I don't see why anyone would have blocked Quibby... He wasn't making that many waves that screamed "I have an important power!" So I'm really interested by all these target switches.

[Blackhoof]

Hmmm.... figuring out this 'night-action chaos' is vital, i think. I am seeing scum action behind this..... as we all know, chaos = scum. Whever is deliberately adding to this confusion is a likely candidate for scum, i would think.

 

Who would you suggest is adding in a non-helpful way?

 

relax, i was merely saying how the night-action chaos was causing... well.... chaos amongst us. Redirecting or whatever it is called seems to be a very chaotic power (aka scum) so i would assume that scum are behind it. unravelling scum plots (if indeed this is one) is important to solving the mysteries of who is scum.

[dapianoplay3r]

Black you have been bugging me so i went through and made a case;

 

mafia games look so complex..... betrayal, intrigue, deception, ploys, tactics.... so intense.

 

song, song, song, you are looking mighty suspicious from my POV, you know. I might not be experienced at mafia, but you seem rather..... vocal on how you are merely trying to be honest and save innocents from suspicion. would scum do that? no.... but that is the point, isn't it?

 

well? what do you have to say for yourself? r u an unselfish and brave martyr? or are you an insidious mafia scum.... i favour the latter!

 

BURN THE MAFIA SCUM!!!

This just feels scummy scummy scummy. I also note you mentioning how your new to mafia

 

Firefly, eh? whats that about? the only thing i know is that there are a bunch of people on a spaceship, and they fight cannabalistic degenerates called Reavers.

 

Completely unrelated to anything in game really

 

what do you mean? how is being the DR a mindset?

 

isn't it a role?

 

This is kind or game related when your reading through but when you look at it it doesnt really say anything at all. It had the potential to be a topic if it hadnt been a joke. Ill give you the benifit of the doubt but it seemed obvious it was a joke on her part

 

i like your rhyming.

 

i had an RP character once who suffered from the taint, so had to talk in rhyme or song.

 

it was difficult, u hav my respect, man.

 

That doesnt help in anyway

 

I know this is TOTALLY off topic but who is sammy-the emoticon?

 

presumably sammael.... the forsaken.... the blonde scarred dude.... :P

 

 

Anyway, this game is so complex!

 

For the record, i am of the firm opinion that Aemon is NOT the DR. It reeks of a scum trying to hide behind the mantle of the Dragon. Look at all this debate he has sparked! Confusion.... very scummy. he has successfully escaped lynching for now, but i can not stand by and watch scum escape judgement!

 

UNVOTE

 

VOTE AEMON, the False Dragon!

 

You just throw yourself in there whole heartedly. I know your new and it seems like your playing style from what your saying but IMO it makes your posts look longer when all they really say is "I agree, VOTE SOMEONE". I think the bold is about the most interesting thing you said but then you ignored that and went on with your enthusiasm

 

Blackhoof what would you do in aemon's situatino? hmmmmm?????? just curious.

 

 

I would keep my identity secret until a later time.... something like that. i dont know, really. :P im a noob, remember?

 

This sounds like you believe the claim now yet you dont unvote at all. Just casually leave your vote there and IMO thats as good as a vote without explanation because you have countered your own earlier agrument. I dont like it and you seem to do it often

 

wouldn't it be cool being the DR? He would have an epic power..... gamechanging.....

 

.... if he is even in this game.

 

Not really helpful to the game

 

Frankly, both Aemon and red look suspicious to me now. Aemon less so, as he has a good defence for his actions. I'm still not sure about him being the Dragon, what with his ability being the rather un-Randish 'finder' (or so he says).

 

And with red, she keeps hinting at her character. "three oaths" "one warder" "i will keep fighting the shadow until my dying breath = Moiraine quote"

 

Well.... who else has warders? Who else has 'three oaths' of a sort? who WOULD say that thye will fight the shadow until thier last breath?

 

The- black -ajah.

 

And who would want to sow as much contention as possible against a potential Dragon?

 

The- black -ajah.

 

Thats right, i think that red is not red at all... but BLACK!

 

UNVOTE

 

VOTE RED, the Black Ajah scum!

 

Suddenly your back to the DR being a lie and now your suspicious of Red. You decide to change your vote then launch into a strange attack on her ajah when you just called her Moiraine. This is pre mod intervention though so nothing is proven

 

Excellent... excellent..... i wonder who got it.....

 

Mod gets involved for character reveal rule violations and this is all you have to say. I just dont get it

 

Excellent... excellent..... i wonder who got it.....  

yeah, this so isn't a scum tell!!!   totally ignores the fact that i just got punished for stepping over the line; has claimed i'm Black Ajah to try and place doubt on the info i've attemtped to give and is actually hoping with glee at the fact that i've not only been nuetered for a night but my item is up for grabs.  

 

 

your excitement over the item makes me think you have it; and your ignorance of what it means for me to have been punished says that you don't really care how much this might have hurt the town.

 

 

Well, i am happy! You played a dangerous game; strongly hinting at being Moiraine so that people would believe you are town. Fortunately, you lost, losing some evil-mafia-item and your power in the bargain. How do you like that, scum?

 

I didnt get the item, i have no idea who did. Hopefully they will be able to use that item to determine your REAL identity, and even if he/she isn't allowed to divulge that information, he/she will know, at least.

 

This didn't hurt the town much at all, really. The only problem is that if your mafia buddies got the item, then they can gift it back to you. Either way, you are, as you so charmingly put it, neudered for a night.

 

and please, i wasn't excited. two excellents and a happy-smiley isnt excitement.

 

YYYEEEEAAAAHHH! THIS IS EXCIEMENT! BOOO YEEEEAAAAH! YEEEHAAAAWWW!

 

I think Red made a fair point and you just ignored it. I find this strange because up until now, anyone that makes a fair point completely sways you and often causes you to change your vote. I dont like how you shrug her off after doing that with everyone else

 

 

Well, i am happy! You played a dangerous game; strongly hinting at being Moiraine so that people would believe you are town. Fortunately, you lost, losing some evil-mafia-item and your power in the bargain. How do you like that, scum?

 

I didnt get the item, i have no idea who did. Hopefully they will be able to use that item to determine your REAL identity, and even if he/she isn't  allowed to divulge that information, he/she will know, at least.

 

This didn't hurt the town much at all, really. The only problem is that if your mafia buddies got the item, then they can gift it back to you. Either way, you are, as you so charmingly put it, neudered for a night.

 

 

wow really?  don't be surprised when your the next to go after Aemon BlackHoof.  talking about sounding scummy over this.  go ahead, keep on digging that grave for yourself buddy.  i can tell you from experience, its not pleasant to have to try and struggle out of it.

 

 

I agree with Song on her point about Black

His actions may seem scummy

but they dont scream scummy

So I would ask him to explain why

all the joy when Red lost her item?

and to song I ask her why she is certain of Red's innocence?

To much absence is a nuisance

So I hope to hear from others as well

 

How am i sounding scummy? seriously? actually i'm not sure, this is my second game. i apologise if i inadvertently sound scummy,

 

 

Yes that totally makes sense. that's how I feel. I think they are both right, though I believe aemon may be a false dragon. I don't think Red would've put herself out there that much and risk MK for a lie though. Though at the same time they both could be lying. I think leaving them both alone for today would be good.

 

Thats exactly what she wants you to think! "It is too risky, who would anyone do it?"

 

I sound fanatical because when i believe something i go whole-hog on it. i do not KNOW that red is mafia, i just think that. when she is lynched, and we know or sure, i will either be triumphant or embarrassed.

 

However, having said all that, a controlled lynch is better than a MK. Red has escaped for now, but her time is limited!

 

David looks VERY scummy at the moment, as has already been stated. Maybe he is a roleblocker, maybe not, we will only know when he falls.

 

DIE MAFIA SCUM

 

UNVOTE

 

VOTE DAVID, your time is nigh, RED!

 

So you make another jab at Red then change your vote again. I dont like how you keep saying that Red will be lynch sometime. I think you should keep an eye on people and FOS if you want to make note of something to everyone else but saying someones time will come over and over makes you look like your hunting them and as far as I can tell you have no real evidence for it

 

Interesting how the rush on David Hasslehoff Hermes and his love for cheesey cheeseburgers has gotten himself lynched and such. I would like to state that i think the Blackhoof's passion in this game is something to take note of. I don't think those leading the lynch on David are darkfriends, however, should he flip innocent I caution that we look at those who jumped on the bandwagon late. If he flips scum, then those who initially tried to deflect the lynch off of him should be held accountable for their actions.

 

Yay! my passion is noteworthy!

 

i am a very passionate person and when i do things i do them INTENSELY.

 

BTW, what do you mean when you say "Blackhoofs passion is worthy of note?"

 

r u implying passion is scummy, or that my passion can appear scummy, but u dont think i am?

 

All you really ask here is "am I scummy?" I also want to add that you did a good job of making Red appear in the spotlight and this could have helped slow the lynch on David but (im going from memory now) you werent around at the focus point where David entered the spotlight so i think you are exempt. BUT if im remembering this wrong and you were that is so scummy. Next time I reread ill check that or if someone else gets a chance please ccheck that for me

 

very true, vam. that went for ages! and it was only Day 1! wow.....

 

 

@Locke what do you mean? im not zealous over hitler. never knew him. wonder what he was like.....

 

once again

not game related

 

i agree, an epic ending for one of the forsaken! i hope all the deaths are so epic! :D

 

After a death scene that is acceptable and i can live with it

 

Cool, we found the horn :) who gets it and what does it do? better be something cool....

 

Thats a bit of a fishing comment actually. I didnt notice at the time really but you hid it well with ignorance but its there

 

I agree with you wholehheartedly Keyholder, Bg is pinging my scumdar like a geiger counter near an Alpha emmiter.

 

VOTE BG

 

And my vote stays there until someone scummier shows up or Bg clears himslef adequately.

 

Someone makes a case and your swayed again

 

im glad ur here too dark mistress of Shayol Ghul! together we shall find whoever did this to you and slay them!

 

but seriously, from my understanding i would assume that she was targeted by

 

-finder

-protector

-NK'er (probably 2nd mafia one, assuming they have a second one, or possible third party other than fain)

-watcher (ie. song if she is telling the truth, and not guessing)

-roleblocker??? if someone was particularly inattentive and didnt realise that she was roleless.

-some other role im not aware of

 

This post was good and helpful. I would like to bring to light how he calls Red's Rolelessness to attention

 

Hmmm.... figuring out this 'night-action chaos' is vital, i think. I am seeing scum action behind this..... as we all know, chaos = scum. Whever is deliberately adding to this confusion is a likely candidate for scum, i would think.

 

Very true but you didnt help us with that. post a plan with a statement like this or some ideas atleast

 

Hmmm.... figuring out this 'night-action chaos' is vital, i think. I am seeing scum action behind this..... as we all know, chaos = scum. Whever is deliberately adding to this confusion is a likely candidate for scum, i would think.

 

Who would you suggest is adding in a non-helpful way?

 

relax, i was merely saying how the night-action chaos was causing... well.... chaos amongst us. Redirecting or whatever it is called seems to be a very chaotic power (aka scum) so i would assume that scum are behind it. unravelling scum plots (if indeed this is one) is important to solving the mysteries of who is scum.

 

Well you speak the truth but its just stating the obvious. I think BG's question was valid and you just shrugged it off.

 

Currently you are annoying me. I dont think your mafia any more though. I think if you were your team would have told you to tone it down a bit. This is not a "I think your Town" post. I will probably revise this opinion soon but currently I think your not the scummiest person out there just because of how your team if you were mafia would have acted towards you. I am very easily wrong on this point since it is so weak but its enough not to get my vote for now

[Myndrunner]

"If you can eliminate the impossible, whatever's left, however improbable, must be the truth." - Old Ogier Proverb

 

My my my, aren't we all playing like innocent townies trying to do the Light's work in this age. A few questionable posts from a few suddenly vocal players; however, I find the actions surrounding Red last night to be the most worthy of note at this time.

 

To those dreading the reading of this thread like a thesis on 15th Century fungus, please at least take a moment to read this post. I feel it has some very interesting points, even if the poster sniffs glue and eats paste.

 

First off, we can essentially eliminate Songs as scum provided her claim below is true. If those four players did indeed target Red last night, then we can be sure that Songs is telling the truth. Such a power is unlikely to belong to scum and for her to make such a clear claim and reveal evidence publicly, puts her way down my naughty list. (Sorry love, but no devil horns for you this game).

 

The names I got who visited Red last night are Aust, Ed, Player, and Kwom Masbag.

 

So five players targeted Red last night, including Songs herself. It goes without saying that the events of Day 1 made her a prime night target, but if all of those who "visited" Red last night were innocent, that makes it hard for me to believe her own innocence. Therefore, I would venture to guess that at least one of those who visited Red is a scumbag scummyknuckle.....or Red is scum, targeted by 5 innocent players.

 

I'd like to go with the former for now, because her finger wagging at false dragons, even those who want no part of this dragon nonsense and was just testing to see what happened if one of my...erm....higher than mighty stature made such a claim. Obviously in my case, nothing, but I have a hard time believing that if Red does have some kind of in-game reason to bark at these false dragons, then which side of the scum line would that place her? This is where WoT mythology actually comes into play, methinks.

 

Red.....scum or not? To be determined later, but unless someone can come up with a rationale why a finger-pointing, false dragon screaming, respect my authoritah player like Red would be scum, I'm placing her down low on my naughty list next to Songs.....for now.

 

Let's take a look then at Red's five visiting guests:

 

Songs - the one who gossiped about the four other guests

Kwom Teabag - the first Songs poked her "what have you been up to" finger at

Aust - his name makes me wanna goosestep

Player - cool because he uses a 3 instead of an E, such a rebel

ed2funny - hilarious!

 

Now then, another interesting piece of WOWZERS!!! Missing from that list is:

Quibby - evil incarnate, bane of all that is holy, and fun at parties

but then.....before Songs reveal of who she found....

To save some speculation, I am one of the people who visited Red last night. All I can do is talk to people at night. Exciting, I know.

 

...and then this!

 

It looks like Quibby got redirected last night. I received a message and didn't see it until I was sent ANOTHER message just now. I do not know if the second message was meant for me or not, but the first would fit very well as a message to Red, though how Quibby would have info on this I do not know.

 

Now, either A)Songs is full of brahmin dung and lied about Red's visitors (easy enough to prove), B)Quibby lied about visiting Red and AemonKitten is trying to back him up (also easy enough to prove), C)Nathan Fillion will buy the rights to Firefly and all the Browncoats can celebrate, or D)Songs, Quibby, and AemonKitten are all telling the truth.

 

Let's assume D (and maybe C)!

 

The second message is good news. The Horn has been claimed by an innocent.

 

Questions start circling my brow as I knuckle my mustaches on this one....as in how does one know such a thing? Why make such a claim publicly? What will the Forsaken come to think? Was this really necessary? Why change the subject? Who cares about the bloody horn unless it will indeed summon Arthur Hawkwind and his 40 Thieves?

 

....but I digress. Let's get back to Red's visitors, shall we?

 

aemonkitten also claims that he stole some kind of special healer's trinket from someone who must be THE Healer. I tend to agree with the claim that in a game this size, not only is it quite presumptuous to say there is only one healer, but also that there are not 30 players with unique roles, characters, and abilities, many of which in some way are protective. As for who is walking in the light, if AK is so sure the player he stole said artifact from is innocent, perhaps he should consider gifting it back to him or her? Not too many darkfriend healers in this world....

 

So then, it is indeed possible that one of the five visitors was indeed some kind of healer that AK did not target last night. This also makes it possible that one of the five was targeting Red with something malicious, perhaps even a night kill of some kind. Since no innocent deaths occurred last night, I am going to believe that at least one kill was blocked in some way last night, and Red would be a likely target for such.

 

With me so far? Great....it gets better! (Stay tuned for Part II of Mynd's Mystical Magical and Metagamed Thesis on who needs a good lynching!)

[Red2111]

Player - good case on Blackhoof, you brought up ome very good points.

 

Mynd - loved the re-cap, one point i'd also like to bringup.

 

 

also, Aust's silence is worth noting. he's been on yet hasn't said a word in this game. which i find as odd. we can either put pressure on his and see how he reacts, put more pressure on Blackhoof or start applying pressure on Ed. my gut says there's something up with Ed.

 

 

 

I guess I found out who got your item, Red, cause I didn't target you for my thief play.

 

then how did you get my item? if you made a theif play for a person, tbh, you shouldn't have been able to get my item; unless it was only unstealable so long as i held it. and even still, i can't see how you would recieve my item, it appears that everyone is given an item (even vanilla's since both the vanilla's killed had items to be handed back out). so if you made a theif play for someone, woudln't you get their item, not the one they were given because of my screw up.

 

 

 

Until Song made her post I had no idea that had happened to me. I wasnt sure how to even mention it and then on the catch up I saw Ed had the same problem. I only believe Song because she said 4 people who had NAs and wasnt just picking names out of a hat per say.

How would me targeting someone else make it hit you if they were trying to deflect stuff off you onto aemon. Thats the problem I have with the theory.

Maybe tonight Ill see what happens and if I get deflected again its someone targeting me and not Red.

 

Why are you most suspicious of me and Ed?

 

i'm suspicous of you & Ed because you both are claiming to have had NA's directed at me. the chances of you both targetting the same perosn in a game this big are slim, so i believe one of you is lieing about not targetting me. i'm not sure which, but i do intend to find out.

 

one thing that doesn't fit with your story, is that if your NA had been redirected then it didn't fail, so i don't understand why you got a message back from the mod saying "NA failed" this doesn't smell right to me tbh.

 

i also agree that it would make sense for all the actions targetting me to be re-directed to Aemon (if this is the case).

 

 

 

I have a strange feeling about my brother... Ed is playing like town but... that doesn't feel right either. He said in one post "i can't lie" inferring he is an Aes Sedai but i'm just not getting a town feel for him at this time, sorry bro

 

i agree with Ama on this one

 

 

 

 

 

[aemonkristen]

 

 

The second message is good news. The Horn has been claimed by an innocent.

 

Questions start circling my brow as I knuckle my mustaches on this one....as in how does one know such a thing? Why make such a claim publicly? What will the Forsaken come to think? Was this really necessary? Why change the subject? Who cares about the bloody horn unless it will indeed summon Arthur Hawkwind and his 40 Thieves?

 

....but I digress. Let's get back to Red's visitors, shall we?

 

aemonkitten also claims that he stole some kind of special healer's trinket from someone who must be THE Healer. I tend to agree with the claim that in a game this size, not only is it quite presumptuous to say there is only one healer, but also that there are not 30 players with unique roles, characters, and abilities, many of which in some way are protective. As for who is walking in the light, if AK is so sure the player he stole said artifact from is innocent, perhaps he should consider gifting it back to him or her? Not too many darkfriend healers in this world....

 

So then, it is indeed possible that one of the five visitors was indeed some kind of healer that AK did not target last night. This also makes it possible that one of the five was targeting Red with something malicious, perhaps even a night kill of some kind. Since no innocent deaths occurred last night, I am going to believe that at least one kill was blocked in some way last night, and Red would be a likely target for such.

 

With me so far? Great....it gets better! (Stay tuned for Part II of Mynd's Mystical Magical and Metagamed Thesis on who needs a good lynching!)

 

Mynd, are you just skimming this entire game? I revealed that message so that it could be confirmed by the sender that I did indeed receive it. As to there being more than one healer and giving back the item, please reread the post where I announced what the item was. I was the person that said there is probably more than one and that I was giving it to someone else. I didn't google the item until I had already sent in my PM to give it away. As it turns out, Red claims it is hers, so giving it back to the person I stole it from would not do any good. In fact, it makes this person suspect to me.

[Alanna]

I could be wrong, Red, but my understanding is that when you steal from someone, you get any items they have. Maybe Wombat can clarify this?

[Verbal32]

 

 

The second message is good news. The Horn has been claimed by an innocent.

 

Questions start circling my brow as I knuckle my mustaches on this one....as in how does one know such a thing? Why make such a claim publicly? What will the Forsaken come to think? Was this really necessary? Why change the subject? Who cares about the bloody horn unless it will indeed summon Arthur Hawkwind and his 40 Thieves?

 

....but I digress. Let's get back to Red's visitors, shall we?

 

aemonkitten also claims that he stole some kind of special healer's trinket from someone who must be THE Healer. I tend to agree with the claim that in a game this size, not only is it quite presumptuous to say there is only one healer, but also that there are not 30 players with unique roles, characters, and abilities, many of which in some way are protective. As for who is walking in the light, if AK is so sure the player he stole said artifact from is innocent, perhaps he should consider gifting it back to him or her? Not too many darkfriend healers in this world....

 

So then, it is indeed possible that one of the five visitors was indeed some kind of healer that AK did not target last night. This also makes it possible that one of the five was targeting Red with something malicious, perhaps even a night kill of some kind. Since no innocent deaths occurred last night, I am going to believe that at least one kill was blocked in some way last night, and Red would be a likely target for such.

 

With me so far? Great....it gets better! (Stay tuned for Part II of Mynd's Mystical Magical and Metagamed Thesis on who needs a good lynching!)

 

Mynd, are you just skimming this entire game? I revealed that message so that it could be confirmed by the sender that I did indeed receive it. As to there being more than one healer and giving back the item, please reread the post where I announced what the item was. I was the person that said there is probably more than one and that I was giving it to someone else. I didn't google the item until I had already sent in my PM to give it away. As it turns out, Red claims it is hers, so giving it back to the person I stole it from would not do any good. In fact, it makes this person suspect to me.

 

 

^This.

 

Vote: Mynd