Speculation About Chapters One Through Seven

[Mr.Big]

I think Graendal is dead and stays dead. I don't think we'll see her pre-BF in ToM.

I hope this is true, there are enough Forsaken(some on their second incarnation) that still have to be dealt with. Graendal was a good character, but with the penultimate novel in the series about to be released, some of these villains have to stay dead.

[Tenesmus]

She is definitely dead, but other plot lines need to brought back up to Rand and Egwene's, so G might be a part of someones arc that is catching back up

[Negawonka]

I agree with most of you about there being a large amount of Perrin chapters (unless he goes back to the way he was before LOC I will be sad), but I think it will be more than 3. Honestly I wouldn't be all that surprised if all 7 chapters were Perrin/Galad chapters. Perrin and Mat are the main storylines in this book and we know that Mat doesn't show up until chapter 8 so here are my two predictions:

 

1-7 Perrin/Galad Chapters

 

OR

 

1-5/6 Perrin/Galad Chapters and 6/6-7 Elayne Chapters (to find out why she wont answer Mat's summons like a good girl)

 

As for my theory on why Elayne is being dodgy: She has already given birth but both children are red haired with grey eyes and she is freaking out since no one will believe they are Mellar's (think that was his name). So she is probably hiding in her bed chambers with them staring out of the bath tub at them.

[Stevros]

Does anyone know when the free preview chapters 1 & 2 get released??

[Cairodin]

Hard to say, but judging by when they posted them last year (the month of September), and by when they posted The Way of Kings previews (1-2 months ahead of release), very soon. That the first review was posted today only lends more credence to that. Chapter one as a Friday gift, maybe? We can hope.

[Impressive Bosom]

At some point there has to be a reference to male Forsaken and other channelers feeling the power drawn by the Choeden Kal in Veins of Gold, and I hope, considering how monumentous the Cleansing was, that it won't be in some sort of throwaway scene. I'd really like to see a Morridin POV confirming that tempting Rand into despair with the intention of his destroyiong the world and the Pattern was a failed gambit set into deliberate motion by the DO, one that Morridin, in his fatalist view had hoped and expected would succeed. Who knows - that failure might lead Morridin to reconsider everything.

[KefkaPalazzo]

Wait... after three books of interminable bathing, sniffing, plotting, assassination attempt avoiding and Aes Sedaiing, we will not have the reward of our patience? The Crowning of Elayne could be the most interesting moment in all Elayne's plotline. If not related (why not just in a flashback), I'll headdesk deeply...

 

Edit : yes, that was me

Elayne is who we thought she was. And we let her off the hook. If you wanna crown her, then crown her.

 

 

Naffy, that was the greatest post I've ever read on a DM forum! Somebody please hire Dennis Green!

 

Oh in relation to 7SL, what if Elayne is busy just being hugely pregnant? Do we have any idea how far along she is?

 

Well, she got pregnant early in book 9, which according to the timeline I found, equates to Febuary 17 our time. The book ends with the cleansing on March 8. COT ends on the 29th, KOD ends on April 27th.

 

TGS is a bit harder to guess at for a few reasons. First, BS doesn't seem use the exact time frame that RJ used ("a couple days" rather than "four days" for example). Also, some plotlines are a couple weeks behind others. For example, Verin gives Mat the letter (chapter 36) on May 4th, the same day that Rand meets Ituralde (chapter 10). By the way, yes, that means there was nearly a month that we have no clue what Verin was doing (commence speculation!). We saw absolutely none of Elayne, so we have no clue how far her plotline has been skipped ahead.

 

However, using the general 1 book = 1 month pacing that the later books seem to use, she's about 3 months along as of chapter 1 of TOM. She'll be starting to show, but she's not about to go into labor. Of course, this assumes that Elayne's plotline starts at the end of Veins of Gold. For a better explanation look HERE. It's the timeline, actually pretty interesting if you haven't seen it.

 

We're unlikely to meet the kids in the series, since at the rate we're going, she'll be 6 months along at the end of AMOL. Since they are to be born healthy and strong, being born 3+ months premature is completely out of the question, given the medical technology (that is to say, next to none) of Randland. They were likely planned for the outriggers.

[Luckers]

Does anyone know when the free preview chapters 1 & 2 get released??

 

 

Tor tweeted that it would be soon.

[Charlz Guybon]

Does anyone know when the free preview chapters 1 & 2 get released??

 

 

Tor tweeted that it would be soon.

How soon? Next week, the week after? Together or separately?

[Red Hand Man]

We are so spoiled! New Dragonmount! Prologue! Chapter 8! ...and we're already huffing and puffing about Chapters 1 & 2!

 

Anyways, I think that it will be about 60/40 Perrin/Galad. With a varying mixture of Bornhald the Bald and Byar the Gaunt.

 

There is too much to catch up on for Galad for other things to occur in the middle... there may be 1 short chapter between Perrin and Mat though.

[Luckers]

Does anyone know when the free preview chapters 1 & 2 get released??

 

 

Tor tweeted that it would be soon.

How soon? Next week, the week after? Together or separately?

 

Seperately. One will be release by Tor, the other on Audible, like last time.

[Charlz Guybon]

We are so spoiled! New Dragonmount! Prologue! Chapter 8! ...and we're already huffing and puffing about Chapters 1 & 2!

 

Anyways, I think that it will be about 60/40 Perrin/Galad. With a varying mixture of Bornhald the Bald and Byar the Gaunt.

 

There is too much to catch up on for Galad for other things to occur in the middle... there may be 1 short chapter between Perrin and Mat though.

Bornhald's bald?

[Red Hand Man]

We are so spoiled! New Dragonmount! Prologue! Chapter 8! ...and we're already huffing and puffing about Chapters 1 & 2!

 

Anyways, I think that it will be about 60/40 Perrin/Galad. With a varying mixture of Bornhald the Bald and Byar the Gaunt.

 

There is too much to catch up on for Galad for other things to occur in the middle... there may be 1 short chapter between Perrin and Mat though.

Bornhald's bald?

 

Don't think so, but he should be. Might be soon with all of his drunkenness.

 

I foresee Balwer alerting Perrin to the Whitecloaks being in the area and perhaps coercing him to move, but hearing that Valda has been killed by Galad, Mormaighdingase will be like, "can you get my stepson s'il vous plait?"

 

I think to do it properly it would take minimum 5 chapters. 1st to get Perrin's group all squared away. 2nd to hear about the 'cloaks nearby. 3rd to set it into motion. 4th get Galad into the picture. 5, take down some peeps.

 

Unless perhaps Galad can change Asunawa's mind about him...

[Charlz Guybon]

We are so spoiled! New Dragonmount! Prologue! Chapter 8! ...and we're already huffing and puffing about Chapters 1 & 2!

 

Anyways, I think that it will be about 60/40 Perrin/Galad. With a varying mixture of Bornhald the Bald and Byar the Gaunt.

 

There is too much to catch up on for Galad for other things to occur in the middle... there may be 1 short chapter between Perrin and Mat though.

Bornhald's bald?

 

Don't think so, but he should be. Might be soon with all of his drunkenness.

 

Drinking leads to hair loss?

[TheAngryDruid]

I agree about the majority of 1-7 being Perrin/Galad, with Elayne being the next most likely. Also agree that Chapter 8 is the first Mat POV.

 

However, I think the following characters could make an appearance in the pre-VOG/pre-Tower attack timeline: Loial (at the Stump), Aviendha (at Rhuidean), Pevara (or another AS) at the BT, Moiraine (in Finnland), Lan/Ituralde (in the Borderlands), or the Borderland rulers.

[Red Hand Man]

We are so spoiled! New Dragonmount! Prologue! Chapter 8! ...and we're already huffing and puffing about Chapters 1 & 2!

 

Anyways, I think that it will be about 60/40 Perrin/Galad. With a varying mixture of Bornhald the Bald and Byar the Gaunt.

 

There is too much to catch up on for Galad for other things to occur in the middle... there may be 1 short chapter between Perrin and Mat though.

Bornhald's bald?

 

Don't think so, but he should be. Might be soon with all of his drunkenness.

 

Drinking leads to hair loss?

 

Stress leads to hair loss, drinking leads to stress, from all the 'plaining you gotta do when you come out of your stupor.

 

/hijack.

[Luckers]

"Bornhald, we're here because of your drinking. Don't be angry with us, we all care about you deeply and--oh no, wait, we don't. Drink yourself into an early grave you monstrous little pissant."

[rabbittmaster]

i thought Asunawa was a darkfiend

[KefkaPalazzo]

Nope. He's not a nice guy (whitecloaks tend not to be) but he's not a DF. The guy you're thinking of is (iirc) his predecessor, Jaichim Carridin, aka Bors from TGH.

[Sid]

Nope. He's not a nice guy (whitecloaks tend not to be) but he's not a DF. The guy you're thinking of is (iirc) his predecessor, Jaichim Carridin, aka Bors from TGH.

Carradin was Asunawa's subordinate. Asunawa is the High Inquisitor, while Carradin was an Inquisitor.

Asunawa's allegiance, whether to Shadow or Light, is unknown for sure. We have no PoV of his IIRC...?

[Charlz Guybon]

Nope. He's not a nice guy (whitecloaks tend not to be) but he's not a DF. The guy you're thinking of is (iirc) his predecessor, Jaichim Carridin, aka Bors from TGH.

Carradin was Asunawa's subordinate. Asunawa is the High Inquisitor, while Carradin was an Inquisitor.

Asunawa's allegiance, whether to Shadow or Light, is unknown for sure. We have no PoV of his IIRC...?

I believe we have one from LOC.

[TheBeerPatriot]

Hmmm. I'd say at least 3 of Chapters 1-7 will be devoted to Perrin, with one each to Galad, Aviendha, and Elayne. One of the chapters should be devoted to the Forsaken, there's got to be some sort of meeting going on between them to roll out Tarmon Gaidon.

[Sid]

I believe we have one from LOC.

Ha! Right you are. An entire page! It does not, however, give a definitive answer to whether or not he's a DF, but it seems to indicate that he has only the normal Whitecloak prejudice against channelers (in spades) and wants to take down Niall.

 

Could you imagine Sanderson having to write an Asunawa PoV and going back through all the texts to find only one freakin' page to give him reference to the man's thoughts? A lot of it is just Saren whining too.

[sdelu]

If the first chapter isn't Rand I'll be slightly annoyed, and just flip to the first Rand chapter and read that first. Don't really care about the rest until I know what happens to him!

 

As for the others, they're probably going to be mostly Perrin, Galad and Ituralde, with maybe a sprinkle of Pevara. The Forsaken will have their chapter (I wonder if they, too, will believe Graendal dead, or if Moridin would somehow know she's alive from the TP gift), but I think it'll be either very early (ie chapter 2) or about 10-15 in. Aywhere else would ruin us getting reacquainted with our favorite wolf. <--best character from the Perrin arc

[algspkr]

Any news on Chapters one and two?