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Stevros

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  1. I've got a theory about how Rand lights his pipe. The 'True Power' Is what the note was drilled for. Lews Therin describes while Rand uses it as literally the Dark One. It is also stated the Dark One is the only person who can allow access to the power. Given everything in the Wheel of Time is balance, could there be an argument that the Creator has a power that is HIS essence like the True Power is for the Dark One. The creator may be more discerning on who has access and Rand had to win the Last Battle to be deemed worthy for this power. Saidar & Saidin are the powers that drive the Wheel of Time but they're not the creator's essence.
  2. Very true but Demandred is also able to poke a hole in Lan in a one on one duel which is pretty darn impressive. Plus Demandred probably isn't completely focused on the duels he is fighting man on man but rather more the duel he fights with Mat on with their armies. That said Mat is pretty darn badass and ok I'll put him up to no. 1 cus I genuinely think Lan and Demanded need to be together on the list
  3. Ok so this is a subjective list. Open for wild debate and likely to involve a number of duels being challenged. Rules are no channelling allowed fighters are allowed to be selected at peak skills (e.g. Rand pre KoD). (Also due to them not dueling per say and the fact I've no idea where to fit them in I'm leaving the Aiel out... but if you want add them in to any conters) 1. Lan - got to be! 2. Demandred - close 2nd probably if he concentrated could have been 1st but you lose concentration against Lan and you die. 3. Mat rarely seen in a fair fight he could be no. 1 possibly but I'm putting him in at 3 as he can't be lower. 4. Rand pretty sure he peaked this high but no higher... 5. Galad like Lan singlemindedness in dueling gets him higher than others 6. Ryne controversial to put him this high but Lan judges him to be the better swordsman than him but fell into the same trap as Demandred. Only reason he's not higher is I judge Lan to have improved with the sword since then. Just remember he was already an awesome fighter then so that's why he ranks highly 7. Jearom supposedly the best ever but tell me he beats any of the above?!? 8. Sleete bested Lan 2 out of 7 gets him a top 10 spot 9. Sammael World Champion of a bloodless sword sport. 10. Eamon Valda another that should be higher had the capability to best Galad but arrogance was his failing. Was going to just be a top 10 but there's too many not mentioned. 11. Gawyn the guy killed 2 blademasters in the tower coup so gets a pretty high position. 12. Tam to become 2nd captain as an outlander has to be pretty special along with the fact he earnt a power wrought sword. Plus he's pretty badass even when he's past his prime. 13. Be'lal pretty useless Forsaken but for a short space of time proved a decent swordsman 14. Perrin pretty low for him but he's never quite had the same impact for me as Mat and Rand his skills are more in the wolf dream 15. Toram Riatin ok Rand is better but he knows how to press an advantage and he's certainly not bad 16. Rodel Ituralde just another high quality blademasters 17. Ishamael yet another Forsaken blademaster but book 2 Rand bested him. 18. Turan needed a bit of Seanchan influence here. 19. Hammar swordmaster of the White Tower is going to be pretty good 20. Turak another Seanchan needs to be in the list but probably given he loses to book 2 Rand he isn't getting higher. Honourable mentions... All Aiel too tough to put them in they don't duel much. Gareth Bryne is a blademaster but can't crack the list. Coulin master of arms and a Warder Laman had a Heron Marked blade. Artur Hawkwing quite possibly higher but minimal references to fighting abilities . Birgitte possibly not suited to curling All other hero's of the horn. Jain Charin Ingtar.... Ok ok I'll stop there's too many to count reminds me how many badass fighters there are
  4. With Relation to this a lot of the early death's in the vileness (admittedly when the BA was behind a lot of it) were paying thugs to take them out. NS Chapter 16: If they were just dishing out money to hitmen then only getting involved in cases where channelling had developed the numbers killed could be very high. That said with these sorts of things the numbers are probably somewhere in between what the official figure said and what the largest claim said it was.
  5. Firstly I don't think Moiraine ever thought it was the DO. After the events of tEotW she goes to Adeleas and Vandene's retreat to do additional research. She doesn't divulge much to Rand at this stage but she's pretty confident it's Ishy at the end of tDR despite not studying any more. 2. Sammael though especially was known for the scar and his stature. So I would be surprised if that didn't survive through to the current time. 3. Moiraine has spent 20 years prepping for it I would suspect she knows more than basics if not much more she and Siuan had Tar Valon's libraries at their disposal. It would not take much additional information to general knowledge of the time to identify some of the Forsaken if you are actively looking for them. 4. Just because our main POV characters don't know much at this stage we haven't seen that many Moiraine POV's at this time to know what she knows about. What we do know is she had spent 20 years trusting just Lan and Siuan knowing what is coming and therefore does keep what she knows and plans to herself.
  6. I like your thinking.... off the top of my head I reckon so. If you made the design so that it's dependant on compression then yes that works....
  7. If you're making an incredibly tall building you'd need cullendar nuts and bolts as you'd need to attach individual pieces of cullendar together. You can't make a infinitely tall piece of cullendar as first you need to make a piece of iron that big. Then if I go super geeky. How do cullendar bolt threads strech when tightened? If they can't strech then you can't do them up so they wouldn't vibrate loose over time. Unless you get some sort of cullendar loctite...
  8. Personally I've always preferred Saidin cooked fries to Saidar cooked ones. I think the tempestuous nature of Saidin just gives them a more even cooking without having to remember to flip them halfway.
  9. There's a few reasons I think dhe csn do this. 1. Moiraine is one of the few people in the world who knows the Forsaken are free, so one of tge few people who would even consider them in the whole who's this Lord Brend chap. 2. She also knows it's not Ishamael, Aginor or Balthamel after confronting two at the Eye of the World and the fight at Falme so knows it could only be Rahvin, Demandred, Asmodean, Be'lal or Sammael if it is a Forsaken. 3. Most of all I think given she knew the Dragon had been Reborn nearly 20 years ago and the plan was for her and Siuan to track him down and guide him. I think it is reasonable to think that she would have researched what she can about the Forsaken so she can prepare him once he is found. Sammael is very distinctive in looks. Sammael wouldn't have disguised himself as he wouldn't expect to be recognised. So with the fact a mysterious Lord Brend who fits Sammael's general description came out of nowhere to rule to someone who is actually looking out for the Forsaken is likely to be quite easy to discern. The fact there was a warded darkhound was probably just the cherry on top of the confirmation. In all honesty I think Moiraine probably suspected before going there (likely what she went out to confirm) but probably was surprised by him setting Darkhounds on them so quickly. I've not gone into Be'lal's identification but it's probably along similar lines.
  10. I have started a reread of the series and decided for the first time to start with New Spring. Reading Chapter 3 I picked up on something odd. Moiraine felt that small tingle again as the light of saidar briefly surrounded the other woman. Any woman who could channel could feel another wielding the Power if she was close enough, but the tingle was unusual. Women who spent a lot of time together in their training sometimes felt it, but the sensation was supposed to fade away over time. Hers and Siuan’s never had. Sometimes Moiraine thought it was a sign of how close their friendship was. This tingling sensation for Moiraine and Siuan, it seems abnormal in the length of time it's lasted between them. I know Moiraine thinks it is due the closeness of two of them, but from past experience this kind of unexplained thing from RJ can often have deeper meaning or something else at play.
  11. Exactly what I think here. The whole vision had more to do with Min's distrust of her and Rand's initial trust. I think it shows the weakness of blindly trusting visions and prophecy to guide you through the last battle.
  12. This whole debate is why balefire nearly unravels the pattern. It by definition creates a plot hole something that happened also didn't happen but indirect things still happened. Here's two new scenarios. Person A balefires person B burning his thread back by 1 minute. 30 seconds later person C balefires person A also removing a minute of time. Is person B alive again? Person A is dead before they balefire B but person B is dead at a point in time unaffected by the second balefire so does the death still stand (I'm going both dead) What if person C is stronger and wipes 2 minutes from time. Is B dead now the affect of the 2nd balefire now goes back to a point in time which the 1st balefire does not affect. Does that mean person B is alive?
  13. @wotfan4472 It is after the full activation of the dreamspike. Tam though after one of his scouting trips comes and tells Perrin he needs to leave. I assume in the search for the exact location of the statue described Cadsuane traveled close and found/was found by Elyas and Tam.
  14. I'm just re-reading this and came up with the same thing. 1. Dreamspike is placed before Galad recognises Magdin. 2. Tam informs Rand that Morgase is alive. 3. Rand meets Egwene post veins of Gold, this meeting is before Messana is found 4. Dreamspike isn't removed until Messana is uncovered. Only 2 explanations work. Tam walked outside dreamspike area with someone who actually traveled close. Or the wilder theory. We often get told how time is different in TAR did Perrin moving the dreamspike actually take days in thereal world
  15. Yeah I agree that the attack seems to have very little purpose for the Shadow. Essentially speaking their tactics had been to "Let the Lord of Chaos rule" and drive wedges in the lights plans sow distrust and disharmony. This is direct action against Rand. The immediate outcome of which is to force Rand to realise that the last battle is very near and they need to pull together join forces with the Seanchan. Essentially doing the opposite of the Shadow's tactics for the last 5 books. All this attack did is serve as warning to the Light of the size of forces the Shadow is capable of deploying and how soon the Last battle is. The only people who's purpose this serves is the forces of the Light (can't see any of them ordering the attack) OR other parties intrested in raising antagonism between the Light and Shadow. i.e. Fain I just don't see how someone who loves manipulating events from the shadows like Moghi would be so oblivious to the consequences of the attack
  16. I may be wrong but I thought the reason this wasn't revealed in the companion was due to the fact RJ's notes didn't specify who it was. In which case I don't know how deeply we can read in to on POV in AMoL. Especially as throughout the series we've had lots of people impersonating others
  17. We know for a fact it isn't Aran'gar since it is her POV when Moridin announces it and she clearly doesn't know who it is by her thoughts trying to work out who did it.
  18. -Moridin can't control Machin Shin, this is why I think Fain most likely suspect. -Whoever sent the attack must assume that it would fail as they know that Rand's party have tge Cheodan Kal and Callandor. If either had been used it would have been a massacre. The Forsaken know Rand has them. This is why I think it's someone else stirring the pot. All the Forsaken know how much more effective Trollocs are defended by channelers - Mashadar consumed Sammael's soul not Machin Shin, I'm theorising that with Shadar Logoth's destruction Mashadar is not truly destroyed and links to the last ruminant of Shadar Logoth... Fain & the dagger. This is backed up by the visibility in AMoL of Fain with Mashadar surrounding him attacking on his command. - We never get told that Machin Shin stops hunting Trollocs however we do know that, Machin Shin is attracted faster to larger groups of Trollocs and would be attracted to groups of 1000 trollocs in minutes. Yet here 100 000 Trollocs move en mass through the ways and seem to suffer no large casualties. Not to mention later in the series when Caemlyn is assulted it requires all the Trollocs close to the gate to pour out in 1 massive stream. There is no reason for Machin Shin to have stopped hunting Trollocs, but IMO it clearly has. In the series ONLY Fain has any measure of control over Machin Shin so it makes sense that the change came from him. The only reason Fain has to order the Black Wind to avoid the Trollocs is if he sent them. Hence why I think he sent them. I just think he probably left the order to Machin Shin open which the Forsaken later exploit. Fain may be kill on sight (possibly in part due to him wasting 100 000 Trollocs on a pointless attack) for the Forsaken but Fain isn't scared of them. He also isn't exactly sane so I don't think he'd think twice about impersonation of a Forsaken. Yes the fact Moghi gives a POV showing she can impersonate other Forsaken but we have nowhere suggesting that others can't. Yet Moghi is not in character if she's ordering military movement etc she's a manipulater not a general.
  19. Just reading this thread for the first time. Got to say I'm loving your views as a first time reader it's making me very nostalgic. I think I was reading Dragon Reborn in 1999. Got to say some of your comments made me laugh (not telling you which ones or even why...)
  20. 1. Fain would not have been able to order hundreds of Myrddraal to do his orders as he controls them with intimidation so for large numbers he also needs to pretend to actually have the authority. 2. Rand would also be easy for Fain to find ever since the DO made him a hound he is drawn to him he can always find him. 3. If Fain has consumed Sammael's soul then he could impersonate better than most. 4. It is similar to the mark SH gives Alviarin (though her's just marked her it didn't give the authority of the chosen) If Fain though has consumed his soul he may well be able to imitate this mark in a way Shadowspawn can't tell the difference. 5. It's true anyone could have been the target but everyone would have expected a defence with the Cheodan Kal and Callandor. i.e. pointless I think the real target was to get antagonism between the shadow and light back after all the sowing of dissention. The only one who wanted that is Fain, he would have taken the offchance of success too (even if he would prefer the kill himself) 6. True but we know Fain can make visions of people he killed - potentially Mashadar's too. 7. I would expect every Forsaken to be able to pass off to Myrddraal as each other. Myrddraal won't know them each personally. Your other point that we don't know if Trollocs were killed. I'll check but I'm pretty sure that the numbers attacking the Manor were about the same as Moridin sent in the ways. From previous experience we are told Machin Shin us attracted faster to larger groups. It cost a lot of Trolloc lives just moving a few thousand Trollocs in small groups to the Two Rivers when Perrin was there. I'm pretty sure moving all the attackers to the Manor would have drawn Machin Shin almost immediately once in the ways. Something stopped Machin Shin hunting Trollocs. The only person who ever ordered Machin Shin to do something successfully was Fain (stay hunt Rand in tGH) In terms of likelihood I would say 2nd most likely behind Fain is Moridin - testing if the ways were passable for Trollocs in large numbers and the whole announcing tha Sammael was being impersonated was to wrongfoot the other Chosen. Against why choose to attack Rand with it? How did he control Machin Shin? Or Demandred - similar to Moridin in testing Trollocs in the Ways for the attack on Caemlyn given he is the military commander. Against. Why would he disguise himself? His misstep when Moridin asks about it doesn't seem like him covering it? How does he control Machin Shin? I think the Chosen only decide to mass use the ways to move Trollocs after this almost as if this attack is the predecessor to it. If Fain ordered Machin Shin to not attack Trollocs, Machin Shin then would be out of the way for the last battle.
  21. Firstly it's been a few years since I was last properly on here (essentially after AMOL I was a bit emotionally drained after over 10 years investment into the series) so had a bit of time away from the series. I have now srarted my first full series re-read since I finished reading AMoL. With that hindsight of how things turn out I now have a theory on something that previously baffled me. I have now reached KoD and got hit afresh with this old puzzle: Who impersonates Sammael and orders Trollocs into the ways. My running theory: Fain I'm not the first to suggest it. I'm sure I've seen a old Terez post somewhere on the topic but I was never previously sold on it. Basically because of how Fain previously controlled Myrddraal using fear and intimidation not impersonation I found this doubtful and he's not a chosen. So why has my mind changed. Mashadar, in AMoL we see that Fain has this on his own surrounding him. This is the first sighting of Fain since Rand destroyed Shadar Logoth and 'destroyed' Mashadar. Well what if it wasn't destroyed what if it in all it's mindless power latched on to Fain? We already know from WH that Fain can create visions of those he's killed. What if he can recreate victims of Mashadar? I think it's plausible since Shadar Logoth got destroyed that he has access to recreate visions of Sammael. We also know that this is the first mass movement of Trollocs through the ways yet it does not attract Machin Shin. Could this be due to Fain's ability to control Machin Shin? An order not to attack Trollocs? It would therefore follow that the attack on Caemlyn with Trollocs was planned post seeing that they can now move through the ways unimpeded. Verin herself could have reported that they made it to Algarin's Manor without losing any? Caemlyn may have been a planned target prior but possibly as a human led attack, explaining the placement of the key Darkfriends David Hanlon & Mili Skane? Once they were exposed they may have switched the plan of attack to Trollocs through the ways. I haven't seen this Fain able to impersonate Sammael as Mashadar killed him before, though that doesn't mean that it isn't out there already.. Thoughts/Opinions/Tearing apart of theory?
  22. Will the encyclopaedia contain the facts of what happened from the two prequels? (As it seems we are not going to get the story, it would be really nice to have the background to how Tam became a blademaster companion who found the dragon reborn.)
  23. reading the words 'There are neither beginnings or endings to the turning of the Wheel of Time. But it was a ending.'
  24. I'm curious as to what will in Unfettered as it is likely the story arc of someone more minor to the story, it could lay some of the questions to rest.
  25. Wow, I've been reading these books over half my life, I honestly have no idea how I feel...
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