White Tower Mafia *Starting*

[Jaydena]

Hmmm I wonder what is in those boxes. *eyes the boxes and ponders*

[Ludmian]

I wonder too. Well, for all we know, we might find it out when the night ends.

 

No lynch. Well, that's what happens when you try to choose people at random.

[Minuet]

Okay for those so suspicious of me because I told Pete to take his time tallying the votes was because my Ajah had very few points and I didn't want him to miss any of them. Wow, that is very sinister. I would figure you all would go after a high points earner instead of someone who hardly has any. My bad for thinking any of you had an actual strategy other then not voting for a lynch of someone in your Ajah.

[Ludmian]

I'm personally not in favour of punishing people only for being active and thus making the game more interesting (though this doesn't mean that we can never lynch them. We can and sooner or later we'll have too). But still it might be better than choosing people completely at random.

[mmeeshal]

Nice.  I completely missed Day.

[Ludmian]

You are lucky you haven't missed your own lynching.  ;D

[Talya]

I'm not sure I want to open this box... :-\

 

*takes a peek inside*

 

AGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Okay only joking...didn't really open it  ;D

[Charis alAslan]

:P You scared us!

[Illiara]

*doesn't want to know what is in the box that Talya picked up*

 

Is it a scary ter'angreal?

[a pale tanned lover]

Its going to be some kind of night action isn't it?

 

*Wonders what it could be*

[Guest dragonsworn1991]

Well, the only thing I can say is that Talya has it.

 

Whatever it does is a mystery to everyone except who Talya decides to tell.

 

Or whenever it is used

[Talya]

If i decide to take it?

[Jaydena]

Ohhh the intrigue continues, what happens if she chooses not to take it. Does it go to someone else?

[LilyElizabeth]

Oh, Talya, you have to take it. You'll break Pete's heart if you don't.  ;D

 

I know it's night, but this has to be said. Having no lynch days is bad - very bad. We are going to drag this out for months, and everyone will get bored. I'm overreacting, I know, but I'm frustrated. We have to pick someone every day, and the only criteria really is that they aren't from your Ajah. There is no mafia - nobody to be suspicious of. Each team just needs to recruit or eliminate the other teams. Maybe this is too simple. I don't know. I think we're all trying too hard to justify our votes, when the only criteria really is that if they aren't on your team, they're on an opposing team. I think one of the factors that makes voting hard is that there are so many teams. If we just get voting, that should fix itself, I hope.

 

Am I making sense to anyone else? I know I'm new and all, but this seems to be just common sense.

[Charis alAslan]

I agree with you, Lily. That's pretty much what I said before. Voting for someone JUST BECAUSE they're not in your Ajah is actually an acceptable reason in this game. There's nothing wrong with it. There really is no other strategy at this point b/c we're just too big. *is repeating herself*

 

And I also agree about the no-lynch. That is truly a mafia tactic. If this were a regular mafia game, I'd be completely suspicious of the two that voted for Verbal b/c they derailed our lynch on Min. Since there is no mafia, I cant say they're truly evil, but might "Cult" be a better term? After all, the more people that are left, the more there are to recruit from.

[LilyElizabeth]

That's another really good point, Charis. The more players, the stronger the Black Ajah or whatever there may be could be getting. And also, if we should happen to accidentally kill one of them, we get to confirm their existence, which we certainly can't do by lynching nobody. We learn nothing by not lynching.

[Jaydena]

Right and if we are looking at a cult style Black Ajah, than they could be using that time to recruit more members and get even larger. Giving them a far bigger advantage each and every night. One up and us and us having had no chance of being lucky enough to eliminate them because we didn't lynch. Every game I have played where we didn't lynch didn't go well at all.

[Ludmian]

I agree with you, Lily. That's pretty much what I said before. Voting for someone JUST BECAUSE they're not in your Ajah is actually an acceptable reason in this game.

 

Acceptable, sure, but not the best one. Ok, let's adopt this strategy: The first person who posts after the day starts names a random person that he or she wants to lynch just because this person is not in their Ajah. Everyone who posts after that votes for the same person just because they are not in their Ajah. This way a day in the game will last one RL day or less, the game will be finished quickly and everyone will be happy.

 

And I also agree about the no-lynch. That is truly a mafia tactic.

 

Agree about the no lynch. I don't like that we had a no lynch this time either. But it's really not my fault. That's what happens when someone chooses a candidate for a lynch at random (or so it seems) and wants others to obey him, while there are people among other players who want this game to be something more than just a random lynching a day. Well, as I said, let the person who gets to post first in the day start a random bandwagon and make it everyone's duty to jump on it. This way everyone will be happy.

 

If this were a regular mafia game, I'd be completely suspicious of the two that voted for Verbal b/c they derailed our lynch on Min. Since there is no mafia, I cant say they're truly evil, but might "Cult" be a better term? After all, the more people that are left, the more there are to recruit from.

 

We did not derail anything. When the day ended Min had only five votes. No one voted after Illiara and myself. Even if Illiara had voted for Min and I hadn't unvoted her it wouldn't have changed anything.

[Mystica]

honestly, Luddy... 'want others to obey him'? Verbal merely made his reasons known for voting for someone. He didn't exactly beat everyone in 'obeying' him.  ::) They followed him of their own accords and their own reasons. Just like Illia voted for Verb for her own reasons and you changed your vote to follow her. She didn't demand you or anyone else to 'obey' her either.

 

Sorry I have been absent, guys. I've been undergoing extreme pains in my hip, leg, back due to weather changes and had to take meds and try to find some position that I could sit or lay in that wouldn't have me howling in pain.

 

What's this talk about the Black Ajah again? There is no Black Ajah. Didn't Pete say that much a few times already? There is no cult, there are only 8 groups and 1 of them will win. In fact, let me rephrase that. We're all cult. each of us. Each Ajah is a cult.

 

Voting for someone not in your Ajah is as good a reason as any other in this particular game. This is not a 'lame' or 'dumb' reason, it's a valid one. Because basically the aim is for one Ajah to win and we all want that to be our own Ajah and that means ANYONE 'not' from our Ajah is fair game. So stop making it sound as though people voting for someone because they're not in their Ajah don't know what they're talking about.

 

Also, Verb made a very good point in the Ajah Head deduction. Killing people with a lot of points is not going to destroy the points already gained, as those go to their Ajah even when they're killed. Killing a Head however, kills the 'entire' Ajah (points included). Not only does going after a Head make MUCH more sense than going after a big points earner, it also is the only sensible strategy in this game at this point. While we can't be sure who is Head, Verbal's reasoning was sound and logical.

[Elgee]

Myst, where does it say that killing the Head kills the whole Ajah?

[Ludmian]

In Dragon's introductory post in your Ajah's Quicktopic. If your are a part of any Ajah, that is. It's not the first time someone asks this question which makes me think, maybe there are people here who are not part of any group?

 

Myst, ok, ok. Voting for someone because they are not in your Ajah is the best reason ever. I hope to be the first to vote on day 3 and expect others to follow the bandwagon I start. If everyone does this we'll make two game days in 1 RL day and everyone will be happy.

[Elgee]

I just checked, Luddy, and no - D didn't post that info in our quicktopic. And since I am part of an Ajah, and you say there are others who asked the same question (who are most likely NOT part of my Ajah or I would have noticed it), then the only other explanation is that he forgot to give that info to everyone.

 

Dragonsworn, if this is true, would you please state so here or post it at our quicktopic?

[a pale tanned lover]

Sure Min

 

There is no mafia. Black ajah would be more of a cult type entity in this game. Besides like it was stated I couldn't evenly distribute members of the BA to the other groups. I cannot give a yes or no answer because people needs to use what they deem necessary to win.

Doesn't confirm if there is a black Ajah or not, but if there is its a cult. I think we should play as if there is.

If we're going to start a vote on someone not in your Ajah are you targeting high point earners are or you just going totally random?

 

 

 

[Crystal Tipps]

Ok here is an interesting idea for you. Right you think that lynching the high point earners is a good tactic, but I am going to go against that now and say that maybe we should keep them in the game for now. We don't know who is in their Ajah, so the only way to know for sure where the most points are is to keep that player in the game. Otherwise those points are out there being used by... we don't know who. At least with the high point scorers we have a target for potentially stopping their night actions. We can use it to our advantage raher than treating it as a threat.

 

I just wanted to bring this up again, because I don't think people took much notice of it, and Myst brought up the point about going after the Heads. So I believe my logic stands, if you go after the high point earners, you have not way of knowing where those points went, at least if they are still in play you can see who has them and then possibly try to figure out who could be connected to them, and hopefully by doing that we can get the Heads.

 

Luddy what other way do you suggest we vote for people, because you are plainly not happy with the 'they're not in my Ajah' reasoning. If you have a better alternative I would really like to hear it, because I don't feel 100% happy with the ramdon voting... which is what it is really.

[Illiara]

I have to say that I'm sorry that I didn't notice that, Crystal.  That actually makes a lot of sense.

 

I dislike the random voting as well, but if that's what everyone wants to do, then there's nothing I can do to stop it.  I still believe that it's going to come back to haunt some of you if you are the victim of a random lynch.