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i was well...on the toilet when i thought of this...there is never a scene or even mention that Randland has outhouses or anything...that i remember...i think it would be funny to have Rand on the pot and a bunch of Trollocs come bursting in...lmao..... :lol:

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i was well...on the toilet when i thought of this...there is never a scene or even mention that Randland has outhouses or anything...that i remember...i think it would be funny to have Rand on the pot and a bunch of Trollocs come bursting in...lmao..... :lol:

 

Actually, in KoD, there is a scene where Elayne has to "make water" for her midwife taste it, looking for diseases.

 

But, from what I remember, is the closest mention on going to the toilet.

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when Lan and Bukama can't find Moiraine in NS, they think she might have gone to the privy. there are other instances like that (I was thinking the same thing when i started my re-read, so i kept an eye out), but none specifically come to mind.

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You'll find indirect references to bodily functions in the descriptions of military camps and their cleanliness. The unclean ones are described as often not taking the time to dig latrines away from the camp and such.

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Here's a morbid thought:

 

If a myrddraal can move from shadow to shadow, wouldn't that mean it could suddenly appear in an outhouse in the "box" everyone sits on as it is in the dark?

 

Three feet of Thakan'dar steel up the arse!

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When Mat got his rooms in the Ebour Dari palace he was disappointed that his chamber pot wasn't made of Sea Folk porcelain or something. :lol: Chamber pots also get a starring role when the bubble of evil hits Salidar - it created a bit of a smell.

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That's becouse they're all perfect...but now really. Any ugly women in the books? (Except the cook of Tar Valon)

 

I alwaus pitured Setalle as a not so attractive heavy set woman. Dont know If she is, but she is one of my fav secondary characters.

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Any ugly women in the books? (Except the cook of Tar Valon)

None that I can think of. But Faile's first description isn't completely flattering:

A nose that just missed being too large and too bold, a generous mouth, high cheekbones, and dark, slightly tilted eyes. He could not decide whether she was beautiful or not.
Found on p.386 of TDR (end of chapter 33). So...not ugly by any means, but not the flattering first description that most other female characters get. *shrug*
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Of course there are unattractive women. There are plenty of types of people throughout the story.

 

Anaiya, for one, was always described as not so hot unless she charmed you with her pleasant personality. There are all sorts of descriptions of all sorts of women.

 

What do you want? A chapter devoted to characters sitting on the toilet? Please, people are complaining about the story dragging long as it is.

 

If anything we can take from this series, it's that there are no perfect people. Even the hero is fallible, capricious and a downright brat, half the time.

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Of course there are unattractive women. There are plenty of types of people throughout the story.
What do you want? A chapter devoted to characters sitting on the toilet? Please, people are complaining about the story dragging long as it is.

Well, I think the question about women came because it seems that a disproportionate number of female characters are described as being beautiful. Anaiya is not described as drop-dead gorgeous, maybe, but neither is she described to be ugly.

 

As far as the bathroom thing: in every fandom I have ever belonged to, I've seen someone ask why we never see the characters go to the bathroom. I doubt that means they want to have a chapter (or an episode or whatever) dedicated entirely to that.

 

Neither of these is a big deal, and I don't think anyone is suggesting that they are. They're just innocent questions. ;)

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It seems like a falsly naive question if you ask me.

 

Anyone who has read the books should remember a mention of the necessities in some form. There aren't too few to mention as is demonstrated by the responses given to this thread.

 

The question of unattractive women came up rather falsely as well. The books are full of descriptions of all kinds of looks. Think of RJ though. He's a gentleman, quite obviously. I can't imagine him calling any woman ugly outright. I get the sense it's always a woman's personality that defines whether or not they are ugly in his eyes.

 

I don't know...It's like people forget whole swathes of what characterize these books. It's harmless conversation, truly, but ultimately it's unimportant and a bit on the spammish side. There aren't any ugly women in the books? What kind of statement is that? No one goes to the privy? Uh...maybe a re-read would help. There are plenty of references.

 

I mean, it'd be funny if it were actually true, that no one goes to the bathroom, but that's not the case.

An earnest question asked by someone who is paying attention is always appreciated over a post just designed to get people to correct one another.

 

I see that this thread was an attempt at toilet humor, though. I can appreciate it for that purpose...

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I agree that these things are unimportant, which is perhaps why NEisberg did not remember reading references to people going to the bathroom, or why Achilles did not remember reading descriptions of ugly women. I don't think it's really fair to assume they weren't paying attention, though. Maybe they weren't, but maybe they were. I read the books, I paid attention, and I did not remember mentions of going to the bathroom (though I do remember many, many baths :P), or descriptions of ugly women. We all pick up on different details, and some people remember more than others. *shrug*

 

Think of RJ though. He's a gentleman, quite obviously. I can't imagine him calling any woman ugly outright. I get the sense it's always a woman's personality that defines whether or not they are ugly in his eyes.

Perhaps, although Lanfear is the most beautiful woman in creation and she hardly has a beautiful personality. And he does describe poor little Olver as being the ugliest child Mat had ever seen ;)

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I can just see it.

 

Cadsuane: "Excuse me, Rand. I have to use the ladies room."

 

Cadsuane gets up and leaves the chamber to go to the ladies room. She opens the door, tips the restroom maid, and goes into her stall, sitting down.

 

Suddenly everything doesn't feel right. She sniffs the air.

 

Cadsuane: "Something smells, aside of the pot."

 

And that's when the Shadowspawn Fade she smelled jumps up out of the toilet and spears her with the Thakan'dar sword.

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it wasn't until the later books that some of the little things like scrubbing teeth with salt and soda came out.

 

if you have ever noticed in you own life, eating is alsays part of a celebration or party and food and drink are consumed as part of this. i have never been to a party that consisted of a bunch of toilets in a semi-circle for mass defecation and yakking it up. nope, you poop alone and the people in books do as well.

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Well the topic starter has a point. Just imagine you lie waiting in a trap for hours. You really don't have to go to the bathroom? You are hiding in the bushes for trollocs (you are scared after all) and you do not have to "releave" yourself? Just imagine a trap for Perrin: Wait i smell human urine, it is a trap. I know it doesn't sound heroic but it does sound a logic thing to worrey about...

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to answer the topic question, i think RJ was trying to preserve some sort of decency in his books. besides, who wants to read about someone going poo neway?

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