90's Action Hero Mafia - Game Over - Mafia Wins

[ed2funy]

Currently no read on 3P. Some null thoughts cause they don’t stick out and it’s hours and hours between catching up and nothing else is sticking out. 
 

fully confident on DPR. He’s even admitted he’s mafia thanks to wagonomics! 

 

1. Ithillian Turambar

2. dicetosser1 - town

3. Turin Turambar 

4. Nynaeve - lean scum. Enough poking and prodding without real work but gets to frame it better than my short posts that tickle DPR’s low hangers. 

5. DPR - DIE

6. Verbal32 

7. Zander (formerly Lenlo) - null 

8. ed2funy - sexiest monkey in town 

9. keyholder21 - lean town, like interactions. Posts too long 

10. RandA lThor 

12. Tigraine - town lean 

13. HeavyHalfMoonBlade - slight scum lean from bad taste on d1. Can’t pinpoint. 

[ed2funy]

Okay mimis time. Only have like a 3 Hour drive tomorrow, so hopefully I have more time to keep up to date. 

[Darthe]

Official Vote Count

 

DPR (2/7): Rand, Ed

VERB: (1/7): Turin

Tig: (1/7): Nyn

 

 

Not Voting: Ithi, Dice, DPR, Verb, Len, Key, Tig, Heavy

 

With 12 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

 

Countdown to EOD

 

 

Edited April 24 by Darthe

[Zander?]

  On 4/24/2025 at 3:14 AM, Tigraine said:

I can understand that but it still doesn't sit right with me.  It's not smart to NK someone you can block, especially when the claim is so controversial

 

But by killing the useless cop, it gives us information.  Right now we are no closer to knowing who is scum because our cop (if he is our cop) is doing no good since he's roleblocked. 

 

I don't understand how you're not seeing what I'm saying.  We got more information from the vanilla townie that was lynched than we can from an unconfirmed Roleblocked cop. By killing him, it confirms him.  It gives us definite information.  

 

Because if Dice gets NKed then we KNOW he was the cop and can look at many factors.  Right now he's just claimed a role that he can't confirm because he can't get a viewing.  Keeping him alive and blocked is more beneficial to mafia.

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Wait this DPR stuff is sketchy af Winfom at BEST which is Wolfy AF and misleading at worst.....

  On 4/24/2025 at 3:29 AM, DPR said:

Because dice is mafia. They don’t have to use the strongman kill because he’s one of them. They would have used it on him if he wasn’t. 

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Dude you know if Dice is Town and telling the truth RBing him makes the most sense especially N1 and N2 to setup mislunch on him and save the strongman as it's a X1 as per setup.  

[Zander?]

  On 4/24/2025 at 1:57 AM, DPR said:

The reason there wasn’t a NK is because mafia shot at either the hider and missed or because they hit the condemner and blew off the bpv. 
 

The math is what it is. 

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Strongarm would kill through the vest wouldn't?

[Zander?]

  On 4/24/2025 at 2:45 AM, ed2funy said:

It’s in my last like ten posts. He’s being hypocritical, framing lazier than my house builders, and giving half ass thoughts on half his posts expecting people to interpret (part of being hypocritical actually). He pushed a narrative over NAs because his pirate brain can’t comprehend other possibilities. He’s relying on aura, I think someone said, and I agree and like that term 

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Hmmmmmm if Ed's a Wolf he may have spewed DPR.....which way tho....that's why we tune in....lol

[Zander?]

  On 4/24/2025 at 2:50 AM, Tigraine said:

Taken out of context.  I didn't say they RB him to make us lynch him.  RB him and not NK anyone might be enough to raise eyebrows.  It has, but I was just thinking out loud as to why they would RB and not NK him. Because I just haven't been able to understand why they'd even waste the NK or strongarm on him.  RB him makes him irrelevant.  Killing him gives us information, he'd be confirmed or not.  

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Fwiw exactly my thoughts tho admittedly I'm behind the times lol

[Zander?]

  On 4/24/2025 at 2:56 AM, ed2funy said:

Perfect. Vote DPR x2

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Ummmmm what....and no it's nothing to do with the X2 part.....

[Zander?]

  On 4/24/2025 at 3:12 AM, ed2funy said:

 

solid case, broski. Thanks 

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Legit lolololol'd in RL 

[Zander?]

  On 4/24/2025 at 3:18 AM, Tigraine said:

You're misunderstanding what I'm saying.  I know that the Doc would protect against a NK.  I don't know why mafia would RB and try to use their NK on one role.  The strongarm kill would've done the trick but they obviously didn't use that as he's still here.  

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Ok tyvm for clarification 

[Zander?]

  On 4/24/2025 at 3:20 AM, dicetosser1 said:

 

So this IS a Bastard game...... 😛 

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[Zander?]

  On 4/24/2025 at 3:21 AM, ed2funy said:

And cause no one thinks I have any thoughts and my head is as empty as a pirate’s, I actually started this thought N1. 
 

so wagonomics it is

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Please quote the DPR quote you're referencing here along with my quote please so I can what you mean here?

[Zander?]

  On 4/24/2025 at 3:29 AM, DPR said:

Because dice is mafia. They don’t have to use the strongman kill because he’s one of them. They would have used it on him if he wasn’t. 

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Only Sith speaking absolutes....RBing him at least for a night creates a good mislunch chance Day 2....like say a certain pirate pushing for it if Dice is Town for example mmmhnmmm, and it preserves there X1 strongarm....

[Zander?]

  On 4/24/2025 at 3:31 AM, Tigraine said:

Yes.   I know you asked for me to show you something on another post a page or 2 ago but I have to go to bed. 4 am wake up time after a 16 hour shift and already have a migraine.  I will read back tomorrow and show you what you were asking for.   I'll give my scum list then or as much as I have of one.  

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Ok tyvm.  Goodnight and I gotta try and sleep a bit more again too lolololol 

[Zander?]

  On 4/24/2025 at 3:48 AM, ed2funy said:

You can’t complain about walls of text and then NOT appreciate my short thoughts. Mother trucker 

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DON'T TELL ME MY BUSINESS DEVIL WOMAN!!!!!!

 

Lololololol 

[HeavyHalfMoonBlade]

  On 4/24/2025 at 1:05 AM, dicetosser1 said:

the problem with me fake claiming is it doesnt actually buy me much. Maybe a day? It’s a death ticket. 

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This worries me. This seems like a huge misrep, but if it is why has no one else commented? Yes, from a Dice life expectancy pov, it is delaying the inevitable, but from a mafia team pov, it keeps a PR on the game for potentially at least two nights. It fishes for the cop - take for instance if I was the cop experiencing my first ever false claim with two minutes to make a decision, or indeed a whole day with no one to talk to about it? It kills a townie, it invalidates any town peeks the real cop gets so long as the GF is out there... It doesn't buy me much seems like such an understatement, not even counting all this WIFOM. 

 

It worries me as I'm getting town vibes off Dice, which in itself is slightly worrying as town Dice underpressure is not this polite in my experience. 

 

Hate it. I feel Dice is town, but I don't think he is acting it. FML. 

[HeavyHalfMoonBlade]

Also don't like the tig-dice-DPR dynamic. At EoD, Dice and DPR were trolling Rand something awful, then next day DPR pops up with Dice is definitely mafia. 

 

Tig also drops everything (in - game) to state how incredibly wolfy Rand is, yet now is arguing about WIFOM, bpv, PRs and absolutely nothing of content to make it seem like her and DPR are definitely not singing from the same hymnsheet. 

 

If only Rand didn't give such a bad vibe off with his obsession with Dice. 

 

But the thread stinks. I would be hugely surprised if the wolves are slanking it this time. Definitely feels like they are active, and after whatever happened last night, probably aren't that happy either. 

[dicetosser1]

  On 4/24/2025 at 3:21 AM, Tigraine said:

This makes sense.  

 

Thank you. 

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Warning he has blinkers on.

 

it is perfectly viable that the doc didn’t protect me and blocked a shot

 

its also viable that they assumed the doc would protect me and shot around me

Creator knows I’d bet every single one of us has either done that ourselves as mafia or been on teams where they shot around a presumed doc protect. Except Heavy. He hasn’t done that unless he is scum now.

 

and Zander raises a good point below about shooting thru the bpv

 

but DPR doesn’t want to consider anything outside his strangely small world view

 

 

  On 4/24/2025 at 5:50 AM, Zander? said:

 

Strongarm would kill through the vest wouldn't?

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yes it would

 

  On 4/24/2025 at 7:06 AM, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

This worries me. This seems like a huge misrep, but if it is why has no one else commented? Yes, from a Dice life expectancy pov, it is delaying the inevitable, but from a mafia team pov, it keeps a PR on the game for potentially at least two nights. It fishes for the cop - take for instance if I was the cop experiencing my first ever false claim with two minutes to make a decision, or indeed a whole day with no one to talk to about it? It kills a townie, it invalidates any town peeks the real cop gets so long as the GF is out there... It doesn't buy me much seems like such an understatement, not even counting all this WIFOM. 

 

It worries me as I'm getting town vibes off Dice, which in itself is slightly worrying as town Dice underpressure is not this polite in my experience. 

 

Hate it. I feel Dice is town, but I don't think he is acting it. FML. 

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im actively trying NOT to make this dice scrum worse. I have been enough of a distraction if you look at all the time wasted talking about me.

 

if I’m scum I’m a dead man soon enough cause there’ll be a cc coming and, reading this room, they want to test it by lynching me.

 

thing is I AM the cop and yet if someone does cc me?  I’m his lot will probably still want to test it by lynching me first despite the fact that if they cc when they flip scum the scum team will most likely use that strong arm immediately to take me out.

[Ithillian Turambar]

  On 4/23/2025 at 10:28 PM, RandA lThor said:

 

Seems like DPR is the favorite to vote so far, with Tigs as the runner up (and curious who their top scum reads are). Verb and myself have got a person each.

 

Following Ithi's direction, would be nice to get a little more discussion surrounding these two

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The only thing I said you could use my name for was to edit that post. Don't be tagging me in your business

 

Now onto what has ticked me off lately. Tigs reads my rambles where i say that she thinks that my line about 'tigs says the cop would be RBd so we would lynch him' is wrong and says ...

 

  On 4/24/2025 at 12:55 AM, Tigraine said:

That's not what I said.  Roleblocking him so we couldn't get a reading in connection with no NK. Because why would they try to kill him and try to RB him? They had to know (if he is the actual cop) that the Doc would more than likely protect him.  So why was there no NK? This is why I don't think it's muddying the waters to consider the motives behind this.  I think the liklihood of the Doc randomly protecting someone other than the cop and it just so happens to be the one they go after for a NK is pretty low. So I'm forced to find other logic behind it.

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so i go back and find the original post from DPR

 

  On 4/23/2025 at 2:46 AM, DPR said:

 

if you’re the Cop, and you got a “no result”, that would point toward the mafia roleblocker blocking your action. 
 

okay

 

But there was no nightkill, so we’re assuming the doc protected you and blocked the nk. 
 

okay 

So dice, as Cop, is RB’d, and also Doc’d. 
 

And Verb is no result. 
 

Here’s my question: 

 

I get where the Doc had no choice but to protect the Cop claim… 

 

But why would the mafia waste a shot on someone they knew would be protected? 

And if they were shooting at a Cop, why not use the Strongman shot? 
 

Maybe @RandA lThor can help us with this? 

 

 

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and her actual response to it.

 

  On 4/23/2025 at 2:50 AM, Tigraine said:

Maybe to convince us to lynch our cop?

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I didnt spot this at the time cos i was just narked that she said id fibbed in my rambles and i was about to go to sleep but theres a follow up post shortly afterwards. And that post also starts to set up future lynches, which I've never liked.

 

  On 4/23/2025 at 2:55 AM, Tigraine said:

Again, to convince us that Dice isn't the Cop and line Rand up fir next day lynch.

 

Unless you're referring to the question directed at Rand and if that's the case, idk what that's supposed to tell me 

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and i show that, thinking maybe she'd say oh right. I did say that. It was just what i was thinking at the time. My mistake.

 

but instead she doubles down and says that ive taken it out of context.

 

how can it be out of context if it was her actual response to a question? Why add in the 'out of context' bit to make it seem like i was misrepping her?. It's like she wants to completely sit on the fence about stuff.

 

  On 4/24/2025 at 2:50 AM, Tigraine said:

Taken out of context.  I didn't say they RB him to make us lynch him.  RB him and not NK anyone might be enough to raise eyebrows.  It has, but I was just thinking out loud as to why they would RB and not NK him. Because I just haven't been able to understand why they'd even waste the NK or strongarm on him.  RB him makes him irrelevant.  Killing him gives us information, he'd be confirmed or not.  

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Couple with the lack of any vote yesterday, and data dumps that show a narrative but not any real leanings on folk I'm starting to think she is purposefully trying to stay neutral about everything. 

 

And so Vote Tigs

 

 

[Ithillian Turambar]

And I did get my list from Ed

 

  On 4/24/2025 at 4:06 AM, ed2funy said:

 

Currently no read on 3P. Some null thoughts cause they don’t stick out and it’s hours and hours between catching up and nothing else is sticking out. 
 

fully confident on DPR. He’s even admitted he’s mafia thanks to wagonomics! 

 

1. Ithillian Turambar

2. dicetosser1 - town

3. Turin Turambar 

4. Nynaeve - lean scum. Enough poking and prodding without real work but gets to frame it better than my short posts that tickle DPR’s low hangers. 

5. DPR - DIE

6. Verbal32 

7. Zander (formerly Lenlo) - null 

8. ed2funy - sexiest monkey in town 

9. keyholder21 - lean town, like interactions. Posts too long 

10. RandA lThor 

12. Tigraine - town lean 

13. HeavyHalfMoonBlade - slight scum lean from bad taste on d1. Can’t pinpoint. 

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Which had an awful lot of neutral in it as well.

 

So what I'm starting to look for is people who are being very very neutral and not wanting to be tied to one view or another, because that helps them stay out of focus in the game. People are more likely to react or respond to people who have the same or opposite views to their own. 

 

And that allows the neutrals to keep out of sight. 

 

[Turin Turambar]

I've looked through  some of the recent pages but need to start from start of D2 and read again cause too many looks and I'm pretty sure ive missed stuff.

 

And Lenlo is now Zander? Awesome...

[Ithillian Turambar]

15 hours till end of Day 2.

 

That's 1 am for me. 

[ed2funy]

  On 4/24/2025 at 6:30 AM, Zander? said:

 

Legit lolololol'd in RL 

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My easiest madia find lmaoooo  

[DPR]

  On 4/24/2025 at 10:25 AM, ed2funy said:

My easiest madia find lmaoooo  

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I’m beginning to think you’re serious with this because you keep mentioning it…

 

To be clear, my post was a sarcastic laugh at Rand who, after the d1 lynch, did actually post the “2nd voter on a mislynch is mafia” wagonomics gem. 

 

Please look it up so we don’t have to waste more time on your nonsense. Thx

[Ithillian Turambar]

So I've had a bit of a look through on people I mostly trust to see their viewpoint on the Dice thing. And even Dice says we shouldn't 100% believe him and if someone counter claims we should Lynch them first?

 

But I think Nyn is town and she said absolutely a Mafia would do this. And I'm sure DPR is up to something and had a plan, but I don't know what it is. But my feels are that it's a Town positive plan. I don't think he'd be asking people to do the reading. I think he's watching for something to happen.

 

But I'm not you guys and I've not seen this happen in my games. But I acknowledge that it could still be a possibility. But no one knows for sure and I'm not gonna get spun around so for now, unless there ever is a counter claim or he gets a read I'm gonna keep treating him as if he is Town Cop cos that was my first impression. 

 

Also, if he was actually Mafia, why would he bother with the whole No Result thing? Wouldn't he have also pretended to get a Mafia read on someone to stir up even more muddles? I mean he could have actually given a real Mafia person. Like why go half arsed at a fake claim?

 

Fluff this. I'm not spiralling into wifom