tv show spoilers S1E6: The Flame of Tar Valon

[fra85uk]

From Randland to Stepinland!

 

Honestly, Rand is not my favourite book character (Mat is my fav) but, if not the main character, is at least first among equals.

I don't like what they are doing in the show with him.

[Harad the White]

1 minute ago, Maximillion said:

Feels like he is very much a support actor so far.

Good observation. The creators are doing their jobs. Thanks for the endorsement.

[Elder_Haman]

1 minute ago, Finfolfin said:

There has been little to any development of his character.

How did his character develop differently in the books? (And remember, we are talking about the time period between Winternight and the Ways). Yes, he had the Tam fever dream and the resulting questions about his parentage. But other than that?

 

2 minutes ago, Finfolfin said:

He has been relegated to a nothing character

I don't see that at all. He's been just as forward as the others. He's been the level-headed one. The loyal friend. The peacemaker. He is far from a nothing character.

 

3 minutes ago, Finfolfin said:

my missus, who hasnt read the books, doesn't even remember his name when he comes on screen.

That's too bad. The non-book folks I'm watching with know his name. They mostly think he's going to end up as Eggy's warder.

[Elder_Haman]

2 minutes ago, Maximillion said:

Is he?

Feels like he is very much a support character so far.

Okay. And? Does that mean that he won't be the Dragon?

[fra85uk]

4 minutes ago, Harad the White said:

Many Book readers consider it among the weakest Books. I'll have a fuller response when I work out whether that's a double negative or a triple negative.

Really? I like EoTW a lot. 

[Finfolfin]

Just now, fra85uk said:

Really? I like EoTW a lot. 

Me too! And i appreciated it more as the books went on! Really set up who the two rivers folk were and where they are from compared to what they become. To see fans dismissing the book in favour of making excuses for poor storytelling in the show is crazy to me

[Maximillion]

2 minutes ago, Finfolfin said:

Me too! And i appreciated it more as the books went on! Really set up who the two rivers folk were and where they are from compared to what they become. To see fans dismissing the book in favour of making excuses for poor storytelling in the show is crazy to me

Same. In the top half of the 14.

[Finfolfin]

5 minutes ago, Elder_Haman said:

Okay. And? Does that mean that he won't be the Dragon?

I expect he will be, but who will care at this point? He hasn't had any development. My missus is sure its either Egwene or Nynaeve. I appreciate misdirection, if done well, but it hasn't been executed well enough.

[Raezold]

4 minutes ago, Finfolfin said:

Me too! And i appreciated it more as the books went on! Really set up who the two rivers folk were and where they are from compared to what they become. To see fans dismissing the book in favour of making excuses for poor storytelling in the show is crazy to me

 

I've seen so many people claim they dislike so much stuff in the books I really wonder why the hell they keep them.
At least it explains why they love this show though.

[Elder_Haman]

2 minutes ago, Maximillion said:

who knows at this point.

I do. Rand is the Dragon Reborn. 

[Therese Sedai]

4 minutes ago, Maximillion said:

If their job was to make an incredibly poor attempt at adapting the book then yes they are doing a very good job.

 If their job was to make a good TV show, well they have failed quite spectacularly in my view, but if you love it… good for you.

 

9 minutes ago, fra85uk said:

From Randland to Stepinland!

 

Honestly, Rand is not my favourite book character (Mat is my fav) but, if not the main character, is at least first among equals.

I don't like what they are doing in the show with him.

I really would like to see more of Rand in the next two episodes. I loved ep 6 but I want to see the mystery of DR’s identity wrapped up so we can start getting to the meat of the story. 
 

From a pure storytelling perspective, unrelated to what the books did or didn’t do, I think dragging it out this long in an 8 episode season was a mistake. 

[Maximillion]

2 minutes ago, Elder_Haman said:

I do. Rand is the Dragon Reborn. 

I am not sure it matters really.

 The mystery of the Dragon plot line has been badly done - feels a bit of a cheap storytelling tactic. 
if it’s Rand, it will make about as much impact as passing wind in a hurricane.

[Arie]

Alright, Back on topic peeps!

 

Can we talk about that Tea room? ?

[Gothic Flame]

58 minutes ago, Maximillion said:

the ratings are dropping on RT also after E6.

Wheel Of Time's Backlash Is A Major Risk To Future Seasons

Amazon's Wheel of Time TV series isn't getting the positive buzz it needs, meaning the future of the fantasy adaptation is sadly in doubt.

The core problem is that the Amazon series is rather different from the books - with these differences angering readers who initially loved Jordan's novels.

Amazon's hope would be that fans of the books would drive a positive buzz for the show to catch the attention of viewers who had never even heard of the fantasy novels. Instead, the opposite is happening: book readers are furious, leaving negative comments and reviews, as they're disappointed that the story they love hasn't been brought faithfully to life. The positive buzz simply isn't there, which threatens to prevent Wheel of Time ever reaching its wider potential audience.

Season 2 may be guaranteed, but the longer future of Amazon's Wheel of Time seems in doubt right now.

[Elder_Haman]

2 minutes ago, Gothic Flame said:

Wheel Of Time's Backlash Is A Major Risk To Future Seasons

Amazon's Wheel of Time TV series isn't getting the positive buzz it needs, meaning the future of the fantasy adaptation is sadly in doubt.

The core problem is that the Amazon series is rather different from the books - with these differences angering readers who initially loved Jordan's novels.

Amazon's hope would be that fans of the books would drive a positive buzz for the show to catch the attention of viewers who had never even heard of the fantasy novels. Instead, the opposite is happening: book readers are furious, leaving negative comments and reviews, as they're disappointed that the story they love hasn't been brought faithfully to life. The positive buzz simply isn't there, which threatens to prevent Wheel of Time ever reaching its wider potential audience.

Season 2 may be guaranteed, but the longer future of Amazon's Wheel of Time seems in doubt right now.

One dude’s opinion. Cites no metrics. Can’t take it seriously for those reasons. Also, it’s ScreenRant

[JenniferL]

Three mods are in this thread, pretty much begging y’all to stop being jerks and cleaning up the trash. I’m putting this thread in time out for an hour or two so everyone can go get some perspective. Go read a book or something. 

[JenniferL]

Alright, let’s try this again. Please recall that bickering is super annoying for the rest of us to watch. 

[phoenixtrinity]

On a possibly humorous note, we have seen several instances of drinking tea or making tea, and we have seen two bath scenes. Seems pretty WoT so far ? Just needs a bit more skirt smoothing, braid pulling, and sniffing. Someone give Egwene the common cold, quick!

[Skipp]

There was skirt smoothing in Episode 4.  Right after Nynaeve stands up after saying the old tongue saying.  Certainly needs more braid tugging.

[WheelofJuke]

1 hour ago, Arie said:

Alright, Back on topic peeps!

 

Can we talk about that Tea room? ?

 

Thank you, that was one of the highlights of the episode, and a point I had forgotten amongst other...issues. ?

 

[JenniferL]

Yeah, I was coveting that tea set. Where’s that official merch, Amazon? 
 

Personally, I think I liked last week’s better. I do think some events seemed a bit rushed. But I adored seeing Moiraine and Siuan together like that and the way they worked together to manipulate the Hall. It’s a bit of foreshadowing for when Siuan and Leane do that to the Salidar Aes Sedai, if they decide to keep that storyline. 
 

I commented to my husband last night that the plot modifications don’t bother me as much as I thought they would, but tiny changes to the lore and the worldbuilding stick out like a sore thumb. I have to sit with that for a minute and figure out why that is. 

[Arie]

I'm nto going to lie, those moroccan tables and setting are becoming a 'tea room' in my animal crossing game. 

 

I need them all.

[Skipp]

Interesting!  Our resident book expert Sarah has confirmed they have changed how Women can detect other female channelers.

 

 

And for another reason other than to hide Nynaeve from Moiraine.

[bringbackthomsmoustache]

27 minutes ago, phoenixtrinity said:

On a possibly humorous note, we have seen several instances of drinking tea or making tea

That tea was so weak it was practically water.

[JenniferL]

We are not talking about the ratings. Stop. 
 

Anyways, I like the detail of Alanna’s Warders waiting outside the Hall for her with snacks. This is the second time we’ve seen her chowing down on a piece of fruit and it’s just such a great detail that the Green Ajah is the Ajah of enjoying life and that includes sex and food.