You're In Good Hands: The Beau Tomteer Law Firm Mafia GAME THREAD

[Cass]

Also, FWIW, links to the closest thing we have for ISOs (still have to pull out individual quotes)

 

1. Hallia

2. Darthe / Illian

3. darc-star

4. TrippedOnReality

5. Chris

6. Andrej

7. Lenlo

8. DontTrustThePenguins

9. Cass

10. seph

11. Katiora

12. dicetosser1

13. Nynaeve

 

[Katiora]

1 minute ago, Cass said:

Also, FWIW, links to the closest thing we have for ISOs (still have to pull out individual quotes)

 

1. Hallia

2. Darthe / Illian

3. darc-star

4. TrippedOnReality

5. Chris

6. Andrej

7. Lenlo

8. DontTrustThePenguins

9. Cass

10. seph

11. Katiora

12. dicetosser1

13. Nynaeve

 

You are AMAZING ❤️❤️❤️ 

[Lenlo]

So helpful. And you wonder why I have put some trust in you.

[Katiora]

On 11/28/2018 at 10:51 PM, Hallia said:

 

Ok so scrolled fast to catch up and you know what YOU'RE NOT A PERSON

 

 

I support Lenlo in his endeavors and will follow him anywhere

 

 

Yes, from what I've read 

 

 

I take back the you not a real person.  Thank you for kinda helping explain, because this whole thing is new to me

 

 

 

Ok so Cass is my #1 would vote person atm XD  I'm the wame way wrt the TLDR

 

I feel like a solid core atm with Clov/Lenlo/Cass/AJ - All are pretty invested/making good posts.  I was off on AJ last game, but his tone still reads well to me, so GONNA GO WITH IT

 

 

 

 

So this is from the very beginning of the game... What's the chances of Hallia throwing a wolf in this group??? 

[Illian Tear]

17 minutes ago, Cass said:

 

 

Raisins?

Vote the ones who have played more, and know the people.

[Katiora]

Just now, Illian Tear said:

Vote the ones who have played more, and know the people.

Illian how caught up are you in the thread?

[Illian Tear]

I've been reading along since it started.

[Kaylee]

Official Vote Count

 

Darc (1) - Clov

Cass (1) - AJ

Clov (1) - Seph

Dice (4) - Dice, Nyn, Darc, Illian

 

Not Voting: Lenlo, Cass, Kat, Penguins

 

 

DEADLINE DEC 4TH 9PM EST

 

Roughly 5.5 hous from now

 

[Clovdyx]

I have no problem being the accuser @Lenlo.   I have a huge problem turning it solely into the Chris show with no consideration anywhere.  Kn other words, i have a problem with everybody just defaulting to me and not really discussing who they do/dont trust- both as the accuser and from an alignment pov

[Clovdyx]

54 minutes ago, Katiora said:

 

 

 

 

So this is from the very beginning of the game... What's the chances of Hallia throwing a wolf in this group??? 

 

There's a pretty well known mafia theory called "rule of 3".  If mafia names three people, as either town reads or mafia suspects", one is their teammate.  They dont want to clear a ton of townies and dont want to look bad for never accusing scum.

 

If I had to straight YOLO it, I'd say Hallia probably doesn't want to just pick four townies right off the bat.  But I put absolutely no stock into the theory... if any two die and flip town, my read on the other one changes in no way.

[Katiora]

1 minute ago, Clovdyx said:

 

There's a pretty well known mafia theory called "rule of 3".  If mafia names three people, as either town reads or mafia suspects", one is their teammate.  They dont want to clear a ton of townies and dont want to look bad for never accusing scum.

 

If I had to straight YOLO it, I'd say Hallia probably doesn't want to just pick four townies right off the bat.  But I put absolutely no stock into the theory... if any two die and flip town, my read on the other one changes in no way.

Ok so theoretical question, purely. Mostly to spur discussion, if you HAD to choose one to be wolf in that list who is it? 

[seph]

5 hours ago, darc-star said:

 

didnt like his tone early on, especially his interaction with tripped (which i need to read again, because i remember feeling like he wasnt trying to read her based off of that, but i wanna check how valid that was)

 

and then he felt the need to pull up all my posts because he thought i wasnt talking about anybody other than tripped, which i guess i could commend, but imo i had been talking about others (except not by name, and not with actual reads attached) so he wrote off a lot of things as not relevant (could be correct there, i guess, and maybe im the only person who thought i was saying something), but since then i havent seen anything i really liked from him (except, i think, one post i thought *could* be towny?) and hes still trying to maintain that i could just be a deep wolf despite reading me as town

and then i havent seen much of him trying to figure out other people

 

might just be omgus-ing here, and obviously he doesnt know me to judge, but i know im town, and i think im doing ~ok at showing that considering i dont know most people here, so...

although, saying that, i do realise that i need to put more of my reads out there

The thing that just bothers me the most with darc is 

[seph]

I did not type this last post? Wtf lol.

 

was trying to type 

 

kat can you answer your own question

[Clovdyx]

46 minutes ago, Katiora said:

Ok so theoretical question, purely. Mostly to spur discussion, if you HAD to choose one to be wolf in that list who is it? 

 

AJ.  He just barely edges out Lenlo - AJ voted no, Lenlo voted yes.  Pretty sure it's never Cass.

 

You?

[Katiora]

24 minutes ago, seph said:

I did not type this last post? Wtf lol.

 

was trying to type 

 

kat can you answer your own question

I will I wanted to see other's thoughts first...

 

4 minutes ago, Clovdyx said:

 

AJ.  He just barely edges out Lenlo - AJ voted no, Lenlo voted yes.  Pretty sure it's never Cass.

 

You?

I'm torn. Looking back on Hallia's posts the person it appears she mentions the most is Lenlo. Which puts me in a bit of a WIFOM conundrum. Does she really name drop her partner so much?? Does that spew him clean?? or was she name dropping him because he was her partner and she was wanting him to look good. I think it's probably more the first. But I haven't really seen anything out of Lenlo so far that just says "I'm most likely towny" I mean I can't say he's been scummy either. He's just been here. Said enough to keep out of the bottom of the list suspicion where he's suspect because he's not here but I don't really know of anything memorable that he's posted that sticks out to me. 

 

 

I'd be more likely to lean AJ or Clov. Clov is the one I'm afraid of. I REALLY want Chris to be town. SOOOOOO bad. like SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO bad. which worries me because I'm afraid I'm being pocketed. Which he knows I'm prone to. AJ is just hard for me to believe he's wolf again lol. He's like the perpetual wolf. He did start the game kinda happy but after the last game where he was pretty much wolfin solo he could have just been happy to have someone semi active and that he's played with a good bit on his side. 

 

So in other words i'm not sure. If I HAD to choose one I'd probably pick AJ, but only because I think the others are LESS likely not because I think he's that scummy. I do think that AJ has shown much more patience with this game than the last which is probably a good sign. 

[Katiora]

btw agree. I don't ever see Cass as wolf this game. 

[Clovdyx]

12 hours ago, Cass said:

 

Did you post this list?

A complete one?

 

I haven't.  And I haven't updated it very much for today, but this about it

 

Aligned:

---
AJ/Nyn (d1, d2 not???)
Kat/Hallia
Kat/Nyn
???Cass/BWN???


Not-aligned

Seph/AJ
AJ/BWN
Dice/Nyn
---
Darc/BWN
Darc/Hallia
Tripped/BWN
Lenlo/AJ
Dice/Hallia???

 

D2 is above the dashes, D1 below.

[Katiora]

Vote: Cass

 

I feel the best about her. 

[Clovdyx]

10 hours ago, Clovdyx said:

Note to self: reread Nyn/AJ/Dice from.past two pages.

 

Not as great as I'd hoped.  I think if Nyn is mafia, Dice is always town - there's no way he immediately picks at Hallia on D1, votes her, and then immediately makes it a point to try to get Nyn lynched D2 with a sole focus on her.  

 

AJ/Nyn isn't completely out as a team, but even with the way he approached her on D1 and him voting Hallia, I would be very surprised if they're aligned.  It's like 5 percent possible.

 

If Nyn's town... I dunno.  Nyn flipping town doesn't make me feel any worse about Dice; he looks good just from the comments he made to Hallia, and he seems to be looking at everybody.  He's gone all-in on Cass which is probably NAI if I'm being objective but...I like it.  Quite a bit.  Can't really explain it.  AJ looks even better with a town flip, which sounds dumb but... weird defense of Town!Nyn on D1 + taking offense to Lenlo pushing him for it.

 

As for Nyn... probably my choice for the accusee right now.  It's definitely within Kat/Nyn/BWN right now.  I still don't care at all about how active (or inactive) she's been.  My problem with her is two-fold

 

1) Tone.  I already touched on it D1, and I'm not feeling any better.  If anything, I feel worse.  She seems fine just going along with the flow and not really making waves.

 

2) Impact.  Off the top of my head, the only original thought I can come up with for Nyn is calling Dice town because he wouldn't have the guts to come after her in thread as town (fwiw, I'm not super inclined to disagree).  She's busy... that's fine, I get it.  But nothing has stood out to her during interactions to make her say one thing or another?  Unless I missed it, I don't think she even took a stance on AJ when the two of them were going back and forth.  If she's town, she knows she's town... so I feel she'd be able to get some sort of read there?

 

[Clovdyx]

1 hour ago, Katiora said:

I will I wanted to see other's thoughts first...

 

I'm torn. Looking back on Hallia's posts the person it appears she mentions the most is Lenlo. Which puts me in a bit of a WIFOM conundrum. Does she really name drop her partner so much?? Does that spew him clean?? or was she name dropping him because he was her partner and she was wanting him to look good. I think it's probably more the first. But I haven't really seen anything out of Lenlo so far that just says "I'm most likely towny" I mean I can't say he's been scummy either. He's just been here. Said enough to keep out of the bottom of the list suspicion where he's suspect because he's not here but I don't really know of anything memorable that he's posted that sticks out to me. 

 

I'd be more likely to lean AJ or Clov. Clov is the one I'm afraid of. I REALLY want Chris to be town. SOOOOOO bad. like SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO bad. which worries me because I'm afraid I'm being pocketed. Which he knows I'm prone to. AJ is just hard for me to believe he's wolf again lol. He's like the perpetual wolf. He did start the game kinda happy but after the last game where he was pretty much wolfin solo he could have just been happy to have someone semi active and that he's played with a good bit on his side. 

 

So in other words i'm not sure. If I HAD to choose one I'd probably pick AJ, but only because I think the others are LESS likely not because I think he's that scummy. I do think that AJ has shown much more patience with this game than the last which is probably a good sign. 

 

How is Lenlo above AJ or me, when you think he's just kinda there but you've got positives for AJ and... really I have no idea about me.  Like, I ~understand why people have tinfoil about me (not really in the terms of this game, but as a general thing), but I think it's pretty impossible to say I have just been floating around and nothing memorable sticks out.

[Clovdyx]

7 hours ago, Lenlo said:

Its very simple. I didn't care who you accused, I trusted you more than I did Tripped at that moment. Thats it. Part of it was who was backing you and who was backing her. Its all very simple, I don't understand why this is a hangup.

 

@Lenlo Can you elaborate more on this?  Who, specifically, made you feel positively/negatively about supporting Cass vs Tripped?

[Katiora]

6 minutes ago, Clovdyx said:

 

How is Lenlo above AJ or me, when you think he's just kinda there but you've got positives for AJ and... really I have no idea about me.  Like, I ~understand why people have tinfoil about me (not really in the terms of this game, but as a general thing), but I think it's pretty impossible to say I have just been floating around and nothing memorable sticks out.

Did you read what I wrote about him?? Mostly I don't think Hallia keeps bringing him up if she's his partner. 

 

Honestly I don't think you're Wolf. I want to tinfoil you but I've pretty much resigned myself that if you're scum I'm just gonna be wrong and probably die for it. 

 

I was talking about on a purely Hallia related kinda thing. And honestly you're reactions with/about Hallia spews you even more town. You've questioned anyone who had any kind of towny read on her since fairly early d1. Which honestly thinking about it now makes me want to tinfoil you more lol Cause I really didn't see anything about her that caused me to think she was scum, but I don't see you bussing on d1 unless you thought they were a sure bet for who would get lynched. 

 

 

As far as AJ... with him i'm just uncomfortable. There's been things about him I liked, but I don't know. I just have a gut feeling that makes me unsure. *shrugs* Could just be indigestion from the mozzarella sticks I ate earlier...  

[Katiora]

Clov do you maintain that you think Darc is the best accuser for tonight?? 

[Lenlo]

17 minutes ago, Clovdyx said:

 

@Lenlo Can you elaborate more on this?  Who, specifically, made you feel positively/negatively about supporting Cass vs Tripped?

Dice supported Cass, as did you at first, while AJ supported Tripped.

[Clovdyx]

@seph  Two things - First... I get why you're where you are with AJ/Kat.  Kat's more null than anything, but definitely well within the POE.  AJ... so many mixed feelings.  I don't hate your thoughts, but I do think you're probably wrong.  What do you think about Lenlo/Nyn?

 

Second... if you're scum, your comment about me being dead is noted.  If your plan is to talk up how townie I am and need to die, then leave me alone, you come at the king you better not miss.