Danger in Demons Cove GAME OVER Villains win

[Ironeyes]

I'm not going to quote Iron's post because it's going to become an eyesore very quickly, but I do want to respond to it.

 

I don't think there's a universe where Nyn and Hallia are scummates together and Nyn started that lynch as a way of saving Hallia. First of all, Hallia didn't really need saving, because she wasn't on the block at that point from what I remember - you were. Secondly, I don't think Nyn goes out of way to bus teammate!Hallia only to unvote her for something completely non-game related (or mostly game related). I'm fine with Iron mentioning hte possibility, especially since the theory he's going with is a lot more realistic.

 

Iron, I don't understand why you're suspicious of Sooh for her role in that. If you feel mafia was wanting to save you, I feel you should feel really good about her. Mafia!Sooh has all of the opportunity in the world to vote Town!Pral there, and I think she'd look good for her position even if you are town.

 

 

Now I'm kind of feeling the anti-spew thing Sooh mentioned based on him avoiding the Dice issue. Dice made it clear he suspected Iron before but has now found reasons to avoid voting him so far on two consecutive days, and in turn, Iron isn't discussing his take on Dice's late vote.

Thank you for not quoting that post, because it is an eyesore.

 

My point about Sooh wasn't about her voting me, it was that in every quote I found where she mentioned the Pral lynch, she encouraged it without joining it. It just looked like her playing puppet master, to borrow a phrase.

 

I could go back and check out Dice's vote if you want. I just thought it was unnecessary by now because he has been challenged about it and defended himself.

[Ironeyes]

Ironeyes ISO

 

 

 

#27 - First post is a joke about his mother and sister stealing the brownies but since his mom's name is Alana he wouldn't vote her to avoid "the stigma" of voting someone with a similar name to the confirmed townie. Kind of comes across as self-conscious, especially in combination with his later concern with unvoting.

 

#32 - Chitchats with Niniel and Nyn about playing with familiar faces

 

#37 - Asks "serious question" about whether the brownies are tainted. ;)

 

#54 - Chitchats about his mom's name pronunciation and his preferred nicknames.

 

#56 - Votes Clov for not having read WoT

 

#57 - Damn ninjas!

 

#61 #65 #67 - More chatting about his mom's name, plus obligatory town claim

 

#69 - Does not have any game related thoughts yet

 

#83 - Makes a point of unvoting his joke vote - this seems extremely self-conscious, especially in a deadline game with no danger of hammering

 

#88 - Denies being concerned about appearance and says this is his personal policy

 

#91 - Acknowledges Clov's question about who he would vote if he had to place a serious vote and says he will reread the game and respond

 

#92 - States he would vote Clov because he thinks Clov's push for serious gameplay means he's scum trying to earn town cred.

 

#93 - Immediately acknowledges this looks like an OMGUS

 

#96 - Notes he is "out of practice"

 

#98 - Questions whether this is Clov's normal play style

 

#102 - Amused by Nyn's candid assessment of Clov

 

#104 - Questions who Nyn was referring to as Laine (not sure if serious)

 

#128 - Posts to say good morning and comment on the lack of overnight posting

 

#428 - Apologizes for absence and promises reread and game thoughts prior to deadline

 

#430 - Tells Nyn that he can't claim scum as that would be lying ;)

 

#480 - Again apologizes for absence over the weekend and states he will not be available to post on Sundays, promises to work hard to make up for it

 

#493 - Posts reads list - Town reads are Niniel, Sooh, Nyn, Tress, Pral... null WiFi, Hallia, Talmanes, Sooh (again)... Scum reading Dice for inactivity, and Clov for "going for the easy lynch". Note he says he "stands by his opinion" IRT Clov, which he has not previously expressed - his only mention of Clov previously was that he thought Clov was trying to move the game into serious mode gave the impression of scum trying to earn town cred.

 

#494 - Clarifies his note about the Sabbath

 

#496 - Confirms he meant to have Sooh under his town reads and the null read was an error

 

#499 - In response to Sooh's question about how everyone feels about Dice, he states he feels Dice is normally very involved and "must have had a busy weekend" - although in his reads list he was FOSing Dice for inactivity.

 

#501 - Acknowledges that he should not edit his previous reads list post to correct his Sooh error

 

#502 - Requotes the reads list and notes that it was supposed to be Kat listed as null for "I keep seeing both scum and town tells from her" :confused:

 

#506 - Confirms Kat is supposed to be where Sooh is under the null category

 

#511 - Says he knows his reads list is crap and he's just trying to contribute, doesn't remember why he wrote that about Kat

 

#560 - Piggybacks on Nyn's observation about Pral saying to give Hallia space and then voting her, adds his vote to Pral

 

#619 - Acknowledges he's just going with the flow and grasping at straws, doesn't see Hallia as scummy

 

#620 - Agrees with Nyn that we should lynch Pral

 

#625 - Questions Sooh's assertion that if Alanna's list of greens is correct town will win

 

#627 - Admits Pral vote is part self preservation and part trying to contribute to the game after being inactive over the weekend

 

#628 - Agrees with Nyn that Pral lynch wasn't "the easy way out"

 

#630 - Acknowledges he corrected his reads list after Sooh pointed out his error

 

#645 - Appreciates Nyn's suggestion to give him more time for a non-rushed analysis

 

#647 - After explanation, understands Sooh's theory about Alanna's green and orange list

 

#650 - Responds to Nyn's query about where Pral is by suggesting he may be asleep depending on the time zone

 

#659 - Kinda sucks up to Nyn a little here about her "who's online" stalking just being a use of available resources

 

#681 - After Dice points out the hypocrisy in Ironeyes finding him suspicious for inactivity, he points out he said it was a "faint ping"

 

#686 - Hopes Pral will have a chance to defend himself before deadline

 

#798 - Is surprised he hasn't been lynched already for his D1 and Pral's town flip, says he didn't expect the train to grow that quickly

 

#802 - Tells Talmanes he doesn't need to defend him, states he is bad at mafia, had shoddy reads, and can't blame it all on lack of time.

 

#803 - Does not appear to be willing to fight his lynch

 

#805 - Says he still thinks Clov is going after him as an easy lynch

 

#806 - Going to bed

 

#831 - Decides to analyze Pral's train to see which votes looked like they were for a dumb or fabricated reason

 

#843 - States Talmanes and Clov's posts have made him want to do something useful before he is lynched

 

#844 - Asks what antispew means

 

#851 - Promises to do some analysis and post thoughts as he can

 

#853 - Gets a little snarky with Nyn about how he could just go inactive all day if she'd prefer him not to post instead of trying to analyze the train

 

#934 - Responds to WiFi's reads list that his #803 was just his honest feeling at the time, considers himself town's LVP... states he was unable to finish analyzing Pral's train but will try in the morning

 

#938 / #939 - Double post responding to Clov's frustration with people posting that they can't post (#940 LOLDM)

 

#943 / #944 - is working on his analysis

 

#945 - Analyzes Pral train, suggests either Nyn and Hallia are mafia teammates and she started the Pral train to prevent Hallia's lynch, or Nyn is town and started the train in good faith, in which case he feels Kat, Talmanes and Sooh are most likely to be mafia.

 

#946 - Going to bed

 

 

 

Marsh's D1 started out a bit self-conscious about appearances and then after he went MIA over the weekend, he came back with a reads list that he couldn't clarify... piggybacked on the Pral lynch while maintaining Clov was "going for the easy lynch" (which he's continued into D2)... then came back after night phase with a bit of a "defeated scum" vibe. I don't know if his teammates got on his case about trying a little harder or what, but then we get an analysis of Pral's train which gives us an... interesting... theory about Nyn and Hallia being scummates, or the alternate Kat/Talmanes/Sooh team which seems almost as wild, and completely disregards his earlier insistence that Clov is scum.

 

I'm pretty comfortable voting here in the morning but I do want to see if I can at least skim WiFi, Talmanes and Niniel to get a better idea on them.

 

And I'm never going to wake up if I don't call it a night

I don't mind you saying my theories are weird, since I said as much myself in my WoT. But don't start in about me ignoring my earlier sus of Clov in it, because that post was not meant to be a complete reads list. It was an analysis of Pral's lynch, which Clov played a minimal part in. I still don't trust Clov in the slightest but that wasn't the subject of my reread.

[Sooh]

 

Going to say that I believe that Wildfire is definitely town here.

 

Wildfire doesn't do that kind of analysis with those conclusions as scum I don't think. 

 

Can you convince me?  Because the whole numbers thing seems like it's either TMI as mafia, or a really bad assumption by town based off of ??? reasons I'll probably never understand...but I'd like something more than she wouldn't spew her team like that and can't possibly be trying to fake the derpclear.

 

Honestly I don't think she is where she needs to be to go for a derpclear. If she is, all the more power to her, because she has me completely fooled. 

 

The whole numbers thing fits into a number of speculations that Wifi has made as a townie before, based on ???, which probably makes a TON of sense to her, and not so much to you or me. 

 

Her having played Nolder's game and seen that in a game of 10 there were 3 mafia, and that means 30%-ish of the game should be scum. Here we are 13 players, so the number of scums must be 4, because that's more like 30% than 3 scums in 13 which is less than 25%, so that can't be right is her reasoning. 

 

It's as townie as you can get IMO.

[Sooh]

Sooh, I'd really like you to weigh in on WiFi.  You saw her in your game when you knew she was town.  I got there eventually, but it was only after AJ flipped and he had basically decided he was going to beat her to death with a rusty chainsaw.  I don't think it's wrong to say she drove me up a wall that game - not because we couldn't get anything from her, but because everything she said was just so out there.  I mean, she stated in the thread she thought Cory was the doctor for putting "AMA" at the start of the game.  It's hard to fake that kind of honesty.

 

Here, it seems like we've been pulling teeth to get thoughts from her or questions answered.  She's said multiple times that she couldn't really generate content but respond to questions. 

 

What am I missing?

It is exactly these off the charts suspicions and theories that make her town in my eyes. Her not being able to produce content could be just that. We who have played a while longer are able to read people's posts with meta experience and general theories about mafia, but even for us it was hard to generate reads based on a number of people who were posting much less than they should be. It could have been just as simple as her not knowing what to say or look for.

[Sooh]

 

Going to say that I believe that Wildfire is definitely town here.

 

Wildfire doesn't do that kind of analysis with those conclusions as scum I don't think. 

 

Were you the one who in Tress' game gave her a town read cause she had some fluke?

 

That's more than two days ago, so I can't remember. Probably though. I seem to be able to read her on stuff like that.

[Sooh]

Any analysis of Tal/Ironeyes will have to wait until shortly before EOD unfortunately. I don't have time to do it now while at work, and straight after we're going to Oslo. I hope I'll be home around 2 hours before EOD to catch up and do some analysis. Fortunately it's not a hammer game, so I can leave my vote on Tal

[Nynaeve]

[v]Ironeyes[/v]

[BFG]

DAY 2 VoteCount

 

Ironeyes (2): Clov, Nyn

 

WiFi (2): Hallia, Niniel

 

Talmanes (1): Sooh

 

Not voting (6): Dice, Ironeyes, Katiora, Talmanes, Tress, WiFi

 

[Hallia]

no

 

but here

 

im never lynching nyn or sooh

 

think halli is town

 

no idea on Talmanes or Kat

 

need more from tina

 

not sure on wifi but she is different this game and i am wondering if this is scum wifi

 

ironeyes has been sucky but hes been sooo sucky im a bit waffly on him hes on the scum lean side tho

 

think clov is scum.

Aside from Clov I don't hate this list.4

[Nynaeve]

[Ironeyes]

Ya the suspense is killing me but I can't think of anything more to do but wait for people to make a decision.

[Ironeyes]

I suppose I could [v]Talmanes[/v], that's something

[Hallia]

Ohhhh, tied wagons.

[Nynaeve]

I suppose I could [v]Talmanes[/v], that's something

 

Now say it one more time, with feeling!

[Ironeyes]

It's more interesting that way, and when more people show up they'll have their pick of wagons.

[Ironeyes]

 

I suppose I could [v]Talmanes[/v], that's something

Now say it one more time, with feeling!

Nice :P

 

I never participated in the school play, but if I had I'd have been in the pit orchestra. Acting isn't my thing.

[Nynaeve]

Interesting would be nice. This game has been a yawn so far.

 

 

And I never participated in a school play either. I don't see myself ever standing on a stage, really. lol

[Ironeyes]

The funny thing is that it always seems to get interesting while I'm asleep. Time zones are terrible

[Talmanes]

1. WiFi - I'm starting starting o be on the fence here. Her early play had me convinced she was scum but as she continues posting she seems more like herself. I have this thought in my head her scummates told her to post more to avoid suspicion...

2. Niniel - Still pretty darn sure she is Town based on D1 and the whole PM thing. Her posts since give me a Town vibe as well.

3. Hallia - Hallia has seemed Town to me so far. Feel like she has been honestly working to solve.

4. Ironeyes - I wasn't impressed with how he started but besides the defeatist attitude I'm really not getting a scum vibe from Ironeyes.

5. Clovr - More I look at Clov the more scummy I think he is. I don't know if it's just his play style but I'm consistently getting scum vibes. He seems like the kind to witchhunt as scum to look like Town.

7. Kat - Still no feelings either way.

8. Talmanes - Town all the way.

9. Tress - Still no feelings either way.

10. Sooh - Can't shake this feeling about Soon. Time to find out if I can ISO on mobile...

11. Nyn - I've gotten solid Town vibes all game, if she's lying she's doing a dang good job.

12. Dice - The more I think about it the better I feel. Dice is a hard read for me but his play seems to be wahy I would expect from Townie Dice.

 

I'm really not a fan of posting reads based mostly on ‘vibes’ but that's really where I am at this point. My gut still tells me WiFi is scum but I'm less sure than I was.

 

I'm hoping that ISOs work on my phone as I want to take a look back at Sooh and Clov.

 

My other tinfoil type thought is that Kat and/or Tress are scum just because they have (for me at least) really stayed under the radar.

 

At this point I'll still probably vote WiFi like I was planning but I want to look at others first.

[Songstress]

 

Ironeyes ISO

 

 

 

#27 - First post is a joke about his mother and sister stealing the brownies but since his mom's name is Alana he wouldn't vote her to avoid "the stigma" of voting someone with a similar name to the confirmed townie.  Kind of comes across as self-conscious, especially in combination with his later concern with unvoting.

 

#32 - Chitchats with Niniel and Nyn about playing with familiar faces

 

#37 - Asks "serious question" about whether the brownies are tainted. ;)

 

#54 - Chitchats about his mom's name pronunciation and his preferred nicknames.

 

#56 - Votes Clov for not having read WoT

 

#57 - Damn ninjas!

 

#61 #65 #67 - More chatting about his mom's name, plus obligatory town claim

 

#69 - Does not have any game related thoughts yet

 

#83 - Makes a point of unvoting his joke vote - this seems extremely self-conscious, especially in a deadline game with no danger of hammering

 

#88 - Denies being concerned about appearance and says this is his personal policy

 

#91 - Acknowledges Clov's question about who he would vote if he had to place a serious vote and says he will reread the game and respond

 

#92 - States he would vote Clov because he thinks Clov's push for serious gameplay means he's scum trying to earn town cred.  

 

#93 - Immediately acknowledges this looks like an OMGUS

 

#96 - Notes he is "out of practice"

 

#98 - Questions whether this is Clov's normal play style

 

#102 - Amused by Nyn's candid assessment of Clov 

 

#104 - Questions who Nyn was referring to as Laine (not sure if serious)

 

#128 - Posts to say good morning and comment on the lack of overnight posting

 

#428 - Apologizes for absence and promises reread and game thoughts prior to deadline

 

#430 - Tells Nyn that he can't claim scum as that would be lying ;)

 

#480 - Again apologizes for absence over the weekend and states he will not be available to post on Sundays, promises to work hard to make up for it

 

#493 - Posts reads list - Town reads are Niniel, Sooh, Nyn, Tress, Pral... null WiFi, Hallia, Talmanes, Sooh (again)... Scum reading Dice for inactivity, and Clov for "going for the easy lynch".  Note he says he "stands by his opinion" IRT Clov, which he has not previously expressed - his only mention of Clov previously was that he thought Clov was trying to move the game into serious mode gave the impression of scum trying to earn town cred.

 

#494 - Clarifies his note about the Sabbath

 

#496 - Confirms he meant to have Sooh under his town reads and the null read was an error

 

#499 - In response to Sooh's question about how everyone feels about Dice, he states he feels Dice is normally very involved and "must have had a busy weekend" - although in his reads list he was FOSing Dice for inactivity.

 

#501 - Acknowledges that he should not edit his previous reads list post to correct his Sooh error

 

#502 - Requotes the reads list and notes that it was supposed to be Kat listed as null for "I keep seeing both scum and town tells from her"  :confused:

 

#506 - Confirms Kat is supposed to be where Sooh is under the null category

 

#511 - Says he knows his reads list is crap and he's just trying to contribute, doesn't remember why he wrote that about Kat  

 

#560 - Piggybacks on Nyn's observation about Pral saying to give Hallia space and then voting her, adds his vote to Pral

 

#619 - Acknowledges he's just going with the flow and grasping at straws, doesn't see Hallia as scummy

 

#620 - Agrees with Nyn that we should lynch Pral

 

#625 - Questions Sooh's assertion that if Alanna's list of greens is correct town will win

 

#627 - Admits Pral vote is part self preservation and part trying to contribute to the game after being inactive over the weekend

 

#628 - Agrees with Nyn that Pral lynch wasn't "the easy way out"

 

#630 - Acknowledges he corrected his reads list after Sooh pointed out his error

 

#645 - Appreciates Nyn's suggestion to give him more time for a non-rushed analysis

 

#647 - After explanation, understands Sooh's theory about Alanna's green and orange list 

 

#650 - Responds to Nyn's query about where Pral is by suggesting he may be asleep depending on the time zone

 

#659 - Kinda sucks up to Nyn a little here about her "who's online" stalking just being a use of available resources

 

#681 - After Dice points out the hypocrisy in Ironeyes finding him suspicious for inactivity, he points out he said it was a "faint ping"

 

#686 - Hopes Pral will have a chance to defend himself before deadline

 

#798 - Is surprised he hasn't been lynched already for his D1 and Pral's town flip, says he didn't expect the train to grow that quickly

 

#802 - Tells Talmanes he doesn't need to defend him, states he is bad at mafia, had shoddy reads, and can't blame it all on lack of time.

 

#803 - Does not appear to be willing to fight his lynch

 

#805 - Says he still thinks Clov is going after him as an easy lynch

 

#806 - Going to bed

 

#831 - Decides to analyze Pral's train to see which votes looked like they were for a dumb or fabricated reason

 

#843 - States Talmanes and Clov's posts have made him want to do something useful before he is lynched

 

#844 - Asks what antispew means

 

#851 - Promises to do some analysis and post thoughts as he can

 

#853 - Gets a little snarky with Nyn about how he could just go inactive all day if she'd prefer him not to post instead of trying to analyze the train

 

#934 - Responds to WiFi's reads list that his #803 was just his honest feeling at the time, considers himself town's LVP... states he was unable to finish analyzing Pral's train but will try in the morning

 

#938 / #939 -  Double post responding to Clov's frustration with people posting that they can't post  (#940 LOLDM)

 

#943 / #944 - is working on his analysis

 

#945 - Analyzes Pral train, suggests either Nyn and Hallia are mafia teammates and she started the Pral train to prevent Hallia's lynch, or Nyn is town and started the train in good faith, in which case he feels Kat, Talmanes and Sooh are most likely to be mafia.  

 

#946 - Going to bed

 

 

 

Marsh's D1 started out a bit self-conscious about appearances and then after he went MIA over the weekend, he came back with a reads list that he couldn't clarify... piggybacked on the Pral lynch while maintaining Clov was "going for the easy lynch" (which he's continued into D2)... then came back after night phase with a bit of a "defeated scum" vibe.   I don't know if his teammates got on his case about trying a little harder or what, but then we get an analysis of Pral's train which gives us an... interesting... theory about Nyn and Hallia being scummates, or the alternate Kat/Talmanes/Sooh team which seems almost as wild, and completely disregards his earlier insistence that Clov is scum.

 

I'm pretty comfortable voting here in the morning but I do want to see if I can at least skim WiFi, Talmanes and Niniel to get a better idea on them.

 

And I'm never going to wake up if I don't call it a night

 

What makes you think those posts came from defeated scum versus town who knows he's done for?  Or was it because of your overall opinion of his alignment?

 

 

Um?  Probably because I was already finding him suspicious...  Kat's comment that she made pretty much the exact same post as mafia (in a game that I modded, no less) probably adds to that impression.  

 

I'm assuming you aren't reading those posts as town who knows he's done for, right?  :confused:

[Songstress]

no

 

but here

 

im never lynching nyn or sooh

 

think halli is town

 

no idea on Talmanes or Kat 

 

need more from tina

 

not sure on wifi but she is different this game and i am wondering if this is scum wifi

 

ironeyes has been sucky but hes been sooo sucky im a bit waffly on him  hes on the scum lean side tho

 

think clov is scum. 

 

Oh sure.  Forget me

 

I see how you are.  I'm forgettable.  *dramatic sniffle*

[Songstress]

I tried to skim through Tal's ISO really fast in the time I have left before OT this morning...  there's not a lot that's really jumped out at me except his reluctance to vote Marsh, and without Marsh's flip I'm not sure what to make of that.  He's pretty stuck on Niniel being town, which I haven't quite decided yet (will re-read her posts during night phase to try to pin her down).   A couple of minor things, like his first post talking about how weird it is to have a confirmed townie, but he could just not be accustomed to the IC role (which I just had in my last game, so it doesn't seem all that odd to me).

 

I tend to have an easier time organizing thoughts with a mafia flip, or at least more informative flips.  This weekend I should have loads of time to post and more sleep in order to make the whole thinking thing better.

 

 

My preference is still to [v]Ironeyes[/v] today.

[Clovdyx]

 

 

Ironeyes ISO

 

 

 

#27 - First post is a joke about his mother and sister stealing the brownies but since his mom's name is Alana he wouldn't vote her to avoid "the stigma" of voting someone with a similar name to the confirmed townie. Kind of comes across as self-conscious, especially in combination with his later concern with unvoting.

 

#32 - Chitchats with Niniel and Nyn about playing with familiar faces

 

#37 - Asks "serious question" about whether the brownies are tainted. ;)

 

#54 - Chitchats about his mom's name pronunciation and his preferred nicknames.

 

#56 - Votes Clov for not having read WoT

 

#57 - Damn ninjas!

 

#61 #65 #67 - More chatting about his mom's name, plus obligatory town claim

 

#69 - Does not have any game related thoughts yet

 

#83 - Makes a point of unvoting his joke vote - this seems extremely self-conscious, especially in a deadline game with no danger of hammering

 

#88 - Denies being concerned about appearance and says this is his personal policy

 

#91 - Acknowledges Clov's question about who he would vote if he had to place a serious vote and says he will reread the game and respond

 

#92 - States he would vote Clov because he thinks Clov's push for serious gameplay means he's scum trying to earn town cred.

 

#93 - Immediately acknowledges this looks like an OMGUS

 

#96 - Notes he is "out of practice"

 

#98 - Questions whether this is Clov's normal play style

 

#102 - Amused by Nyn's candid assessment of Clov

 

#104 - Questions who Nyn was referring to as Laine (not sure if serious)

 

#128 - Posts to say good morning and comment on the lack of overnight posting

 

#428 - Apologizes for absence and promises reread and game thoughts prior to deadline

 

#430 - Tells Nyn that he can't claim scum as that would be lying ;)

 

#480 - Again apologizes for absence over the weekend and states he will not be available to post on Sundays, promises to work hard to make up for it

 

#493 - Posts reads list - Town reads are Niniel, Sooh, Nyn, Tress, Pral... null WiFi, Hallia, Talmanes, Sooh (again)... Scum reading Dice for inactivity, and Clov for "going for the easy lynch". Note he says he "stands by his opinion" IRT Clov, which he has not previously expressed - his only mention of Clov previously was that he thought Clov was trying to move the game into serious mode gave the impression of scum trying to earn town cred.

 

#494 - Clarifies his note about the Sabbath

 

#496 - Confirms he meant to have Sooh under his town reads and the null read was an error

 

#499 - In response to Sooh's question about how everyone feels about Dice, he states he feels Dice is normally very involved and "must have had a busy weekend" - although in his reads list he was FOSing Dice for inactivity.

 

#501 - Acknowledges that he should not edit his previous reads list post to correct his Sooh error

 

#502 - Requotes the reads list and notes that it was supposed to be Kat listed as null for "I keep seeing both scum and town tells from her" :confused:

 

#506 - Confirms Kat is supposed to be where Sooh is under the null category

 

#511 - Says he knows his reads list is crap and he's just trying to contribute, doesn't remember why he wrote that about Kat

 

#560 - Piggybacks on Nyn's observation about Pral saying to give Hallia space and then voting her, adds his vote to Pral

 

#619 - Acknowledges he's just going with the flow and grasping at straws, doesn't see Hallia as scummy

 

#620 - Agrees with Nyn that we should lynch Pral

 

#625 - Questions Sooh's assertion that if Alanna's list of greens is correct town will win

 

#627 - Admits Pral vote is part self preservation and part trying to contribute to the game after being inactive over the weekend

 

#628 - Agrees with Nyn that Pral lynch wasn't "the easy way out"

 

#630 - Acknowledges he corrected his reads list after Sooh pointed out his error

 

#645 - Appreciates Nyn's suggestion to give him more time for a non-rushed analysis

 

#647 - After explanation, understands Sooh's theory about Alanna's green and orange list

 

#650 - Responds to Nyn's query about where Pral is by suggesting he may be asleep depending on the time zone

 

#659 - Kinda sucks up to Nyn a little here about her "who's online" stalking just being a use of available resources

 

#681 - After Dice points out the hypocrisy in Ironeyes finding him suspicious for inactivity, he points out he said it was a "faint ping"

 

#686 - Hopes Pral will have a chance to defend himself before deadline

 

#798 - Is surprised he hasn't been lynched already for his D1 and Pral's town flip, says he didn't expect the train to grow that quickly

 

#802 - Tells Talmanes he doesn't need to defend him, states he is bad at mafia, had shoddy reads, and can't blame it all on lack of time.

 

#803 - Does not appear to be willing to fight his lynch

 

#805 - Says he still thinks Clov is going after him as an easy lynch

 

#806 - Going to bed

 

#831 - Decides to analyze Pral's train to see which votes looked like they were for a dumb or fabricated reason

 

#843 - States Talmanes and Clov's posts have made him want to do something useful before he is lynched

 

#844 - Asks what antispew means

 

#851 - Promises to do some analysis and post thoughts as he can

 

#853 - Gets a little snarky with Nyn about how he could just go inactive all day if she'd prefer him not to post instead of trying to analyze the train

 

#934 - Responds to WiFi's reads list that his #803 was just his honest feeling at the time, considers himself town's LVP... states he was unable to finish analyzing Pral's train but will try in the morning

 

#938 / #939 - Double post responding to Clov's frustration with people posting that they can't post (#940 LOLDM)

 

#943 / #944 - is working on his analysis

 

#945 - Analyzes Pral train, suggests either Nyn and Hallia are mafia teammates and she started the Pral train to prevent Hallia's lynch, or Nyn is town and started the train in good faith, in which case he feels Kat, Talmanes and Sooh are most likely to be mafia.

 

#946 - Going to bed

 

 

 

Marsh's D1 started out a bit self-conscious about appearances and then after he went MIA over the weekend, he came back with a reads list that he couldn't clarify... piggybacked on the Pral lynch while maintaining Clov was "going for the easy lynch" (which he's continued into D2)... then came back after night phase with a bit of a "defeated scum" vibe. I don't know if his teammates got on his case about trying a little harder or what, but then we get an analysis of Pral's train which gives us an... interesting... theory about Nyn and Hallia being scummates, or the alternate Kat/Talmanes/Sooh team which seems almost as wild, and completely disregards his earlier insistence that Clov is scum.

 

I'm pretty comfortable voting here in the morning but I do want to see if I can at least skim WiFi, Talmanes and Niniel to get a better idea on them.

 

And I'm never going to wake up if I don't call it a night

What makes you think those posts came from defeated scum versus town who knows he's done for? Or was it because of your overall opinion of his alignment?

Um? Probably because I was already finding him suspicious... Kat's comment that she made pretty much the exact same post as mafia (in a game that I modded, no less) probably adds to that impression.

 

I'm assuming you aren't reading those posts as town who knows he's done for, right? :confused:

No, I dont. But if I only had read those specific posts and not everything else has happened, I don't know HOW I would read them.

 

So I'm trying to figure what gave you defeated mafia vibes and just "defeated vibes".

[Talmanes]

@All - Okay is there a way to make an ISO show only the actual person you are searching for's posts? It's hard enough reading through on mobile but I'm getting any post that mentions the name.

[Clovdyx]

 

no

 

but here

 

im never lynching nyn or sooh

 

think halli is town

 

no idea on Talmanes or Kat

 

need more from tina

 

not sure on wifi but she is different this game and i am wondering if this is scum wifi

 

ironeyes has been sucky but hes been sooo sucky im a bit waffly on him hes on the scum lean side tho

 

think clov is scum.

Aside from Clov I don't hate this list.4

I actually had similar thoughts. And honestly, I don't even care that he's scumreading me. I care more that he seems to have from early on and there's been no real adjustment that I can see.

 

My biggest concern is that Iron read.